About root access - General Questions and Answers

Why compney not give root access by default in android phone

Because then people would mess with system files, brick it, and claim a warranty.
Unrooted you can't do that stuff, and when you root the warranty becomes void
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gagdude said:
Because then people would mess with system files, brick it, and claim a warranty.
Unrooted you can't do that stuff, and when you root the warranty becomes void
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Thank u again brobro

seems reasonable..

viditsr said:
Why compney not give root access by default in android phone
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gagdude said:
Because then people would mess with system files, brick it, and claim a warranty.
Unrooted you can't do that stuff, and when you root the warranty becomes void
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Look at it his way, it would be giving a Pre-Schooler your new super computer without any protection whatsoever... chances are that with his high level of curiosity your HDD will be formatted

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Downsides to rooting?

Is there anything that would loose if I root my phone? Not loose but I wouldnt have acess to anymore like updates or anything?
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nope. all it does is give the phone admin rights.
krylon360 said:
nope. all it does is give the phone admin rights.
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thanks man, I saw the other post for cwms and I was wondering if by that you meant custom roms? And are there any out there yet for the 4g. I bricked my phone last week putting a vibrant rom on
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rickyy00 said:
Is there anything that would loose if I root my phone? Not loose but I wouldnt have acess to anymore like updates or anything?
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You void the warrenty by rooting the phone... but that's a standard idea
Like any "root" access to a system, anything you grant that level of access to can circumvent basically any and all security on the device. You basically give the "master key" to anything you grant root access to, but that is the intent -- just think before you grant.
If you only occasionally truly need root access (which is often the case), you can always "temp-root" the device with adb, do what you need from that shell, and never grant root access to user-land programs.
How do I temporarily root it? I only need to.delete some of the apps that came with the phone
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Just Admin rights.
Why would I loose acess to those
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Wrong context, All you gain with rooting is Admin rights...
However if you just want to clear some of the bloatware out then a temp root from the shell would be best way to go. You should be able to use the SuperOneClick method for that.
But by temp root you mean root take off bloatware then unroot
Right?*
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temp root, for me, means gain root through adb shell, do what you need to, then exit

[Q] Need to return phone for service

Hey guys I've been searching google.com and xda forums for the last 3 hours trying to find a way to unroot my phone so I can bring it in for service. My phone's speaker broke and I get no sound so I have to bring it into the store. What would you guys suggest to do? I don't want to use Odin cause it's not recognizing my phone and I don't want to trip the counter using the .tar Any help please!
Got to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342348
Follow all instructions exctly and your phone will be 100 percent stock no root
Well first thank you for your reply. Ive been trying this method but I can't get Odin to detect my phone in download mode. It detects it when the phone is booted. I've reinstalled drivers and rebooted computer nothing has worked. Any suggestions?
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Did you flash cwm? If not and all you want to do is unroot that's simple..install a root file explorer and delete superuser.apk. now they can't tell you rooted the phone.
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evocalante said:
Hey guys I've been searching google.com and xda forums for the last 3 hours trying to find a way to unroot my phone so I can bring it in for service. My phone's speaker broke and I get no sound so I have to bring it into the store. What would you guys suggest to do? I don't want to use Odin cause it's not recognizing my phone and I don't want to trip the counter using the .tar Any help please!
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Why don't you brick it instead?
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if its just a speaker, they most likely will just replace the speaker.
Make sure you backup anything you dont want to loose, they may wipe the phone ,
I got a laptop back one time, that just needed a new keyboard, they wiped the damn thing, retards. ( this was way back before i was smart enough to do all that myself lol )
kr3w1337 said:
Why don't you brick it instead?
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Well if I brick it then ill probably have to pay $200 dollars for a new one.
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jamesd86 said:
Did you flash cwm? If not and all you want to do is unroot that's simple..install a root file explorer and delete superuser.apk. now they can't tell you rooted the phone.
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Yes I have cwm.
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evocalante said:
Well if I brick it then ill probably have to pay $200 dollars for a new one.
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Weird, my warranty replaces my phone for free if it won't even turn on. Plus, there isn't physical damage.
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There is a 1 year manufacturer warranty. Against hardware defects.. excluding water damage

Will rooting reeally void my warranty?

Hey I have a question about rooting my phone. I just got a new phone a few months ago, and it is still under warranty. I have been thinking about rooting it for a while, as my old phone was rooted. The only problem is that I dont want to void my warranty, and thats when I read a post on here that was talking about it being okay to root your phone. According to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, a company has to prove that you broke your phone because you rooted it. Is this true? My only concern is because all of the companies like T-Mobile and Verizon and all those are atill saying that if you root your phone it automatically voids your warranty. If the act is still saying that they cant void your warranty by rooting it, then why are they still saying it does?
Not if you know how to revert your device to its completely stock state
I usually unroot first if i want to go.ssc but honestly once i got hardbrick on my devices*root condition*..but its fine when checked no void my warranty after all ssc i dont know why... Guess im lucky
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inoe_day said:
I usually unroot first if i want to go.ssc but honestly once i got hardbrick on my devices*root condition*..but its fine when checked no void my warranty after all ssc i dont know why... Guess im lucky
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There have been users in X8 forums that get hard bricked and their warranties were still in effect. Maybe the manufacturers can't check it when it's a hard brick?
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cascabel said:
There have been users in X8 forums that get hard bricked and their warranties were still in effect. Maybe the manufacturers can't check it when it's a hard brick?
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Yeah exactly manufacturers don't check often
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inoe_day said:
I usually unroot first if i want to go.ssc but honestly once i got hardbrick on my devices*root condition*..but its fine when checked no void my warranty after all ssc i dont know why... Guess im lucky
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Yah, normally root will void the warranty. but we can still unroot b4 b4 sending back to SSC like you said. Unless totally brick its depend on the SSC.
Awesome, but if I have an unlocked bootrom?
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monose1 said:
Awesome, but if I have an unlocked bootrom?
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I believe you can revert that, right? (I'm not 100% sure)

How to brick my phone.

First off. My phone is rooted using PwnMyMoto. I have the twrp recovery. I plan to except the newest OTA in an attempt to brick/or make it look as if it is bricked. (Don't ask me why). If I accept the new OTA update right now as I currently have it, would I still be able to boot the phone into twrp? I realize I will bootloop if I try to boot into android. I just want to make sure I won't be able to boot into twrp. If so, could I flash back to the normal stock and still have it boot loop? And if neither of those work. How could I go about bricking my phone the easiest?
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maybe try flashing random files in twrp. flash a GS3 radio or something and see what happens.
Looking for more of a sure thing
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MrTweakers said:
Looking for more of a sure thing
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At the risk of adding to a weird idea, try flashing the boot.IMG from the moto x KitKat fxz. It will (soft)brick and can be recovered by flashing the proper boot.img
How come we can't ask why?
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How come we can't ask why?
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^^^^^this
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I can only assume that the op is looking to get a warranty replacement or an insurance claim for his phone which he probably doesn't want anymore. It seems unethical at best and fraudulent at worst.
stonesaber said:
I can only assume that the op is looking to get a warranty replacement or an insurance claim for his phone which he probably doesn't want anymore. It seems unethical at best and fraudulent at worst.
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Warranty claim? No way. The warranty would be void. Insurance claim? Why not just use an unethical hammer? Lol
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I've bricked a couple of S2's accidentally when I was on Sprint. I told them they were rooted and they replaced them under warranty with no problem. If it's not suspect, then he should say why he wants to brick his phone. Seems fishy, that's all.
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MrTweakers said:
First off. My phone is rooted using PwnMyMoto. I have the twrp recovery. I plan to except the newest OTA in an attempt to brick/or make it look as if it is bricked. (Don't ask me why). If I accept the new OTA update right now as I currently have it, would I still be able to boot the phone into twrp? I realize I will bootloop if I try to boot into android. I just want to make sure I won't be able to boot into twrp. If so, could I flash back to the normal stock and still have it boot loop? And if neither of those work. How could I go about bricking my phone the easiest?
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After it's been rooted, the internal counter is incremented, and any service or warranty center worth a damn will check it when you try to pawn off your "bricked" phone on them.
Thanks for contributing to the locking of bootloaders and increase in warranty and rate charges. We all appreciate it greatly.
As for "bricking it", the best you can do is a soft brick. The bootloader won't allow flashing anything not signed by Motorola, so you really can't mess it up too bad.
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[Q] Help - No internal memory - Bootloader only

My Nexus 5 crashed while texting. Now I only have the bootloader and TWRP. Using fastboot wont flash anything. Says I does but everything stay the same. Wont mount any partitions and says I have no OS. I can't seem to flash a stock recovery... says its sucssfull but doesn't change and when I lock the bootloader it reboots unlocked. I was running SlimKat with fanco kernel 25.
Looks like a emmc failure... RMA it... Lets hope Google doesn't void the warranty!
Might be an expensive problem as I can't flash recovery or relock it. I'm concerned that Google wont warranty the eMMC in this state.
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Google understand that rooting doesn't cause emmc failure. At this juncture, you've nothing to lose
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RootedDesire said:
Might be an expensive problem as I can't flash recovery or relock it. I'm concerned that Google wont warranty the eMMC in this state.
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There is a thread in General Section where Google had replied to a customer's email that they don't care whether the Bootloader is unlocked or not!
So you might be safe. Besides that, there's nothing you can do by yourself. It needs to be replaced.
Looks like a emmc failure... RMA it... Lets hope Google doesn't void the warranty!
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If he is in the UK they have to by law, unless they can prove that rooting caused the damage. This is a High Court
ruling.
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I'm in Canada so here's to hoping they warranty it. I've got my eyes, toes and fingers crossed.
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No problem. Fully warrantied by Google.
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