[Q] miniPAD or Xperia PLAY? Q_Q - General Questions and Answers

Hello everybody.
I would like to buy a good android smartphone to emulate some PS1 games (talking about emulator because i want to play games that are not in the PS mobile store like FInal Fantasy, Chrono Cross, Legend of Dragoon ecc).
The problem is that i would like to use physical pad (so no touch commands) but i would like to just take the mobile from the pocket and play when i get some free time without attach any huge pad.
I looked for a small pad, something that i can leave on my mobile in my pocket (taking those huge pads around it's stupid, that would be better to go around with a PSP ._.).
DOes somebody know if such a mini pad really exists?
If it does not exist then the only solution for the problem "take from the pocket and play" would be the Sony Xperia PLAY (the only one i know with physical pad) but i am scared about the performance.
That's an old phone, maybe it could have problems running games like FInal Fantasy >.<.
Anyone can give me some feedbacks or suggestions? Q_Q

Leonstrife said:
Hello everybody.
I would like to buy a good android smartphone to emulate some PS1 games (talking about emulator because i want to play games that are not in the PS mobile store like FInal Fantasy, Chrono Cross, Legend of Dragoon ecc).
The problem is that i would like to use physical pad (so no touch commands) but i would like to just take the mobile from the pocket and play when i get some free time without attach any huge pad.
I looked for a small pad, something that i can leave on my mobile in my pocket (taking those huge pads around it's stupid, that would be better to go around with a PSP ._.).
DOes somebody know if such a mini pad really exists?
If it does not exist then the only solution for the problem "take from the pocket and play" would be the Sony Xperia PLAY (the only one i know with physical pad) but i am scared about the performance.
That's an old phone, maybe it could have problems running games like FInal Fantasy >.<.
Anyone can give me some feedbacks or suggestions? Q_Q
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The Xperia play is still surprisingly a great phone, it would be able to run a PSX emulator just fine, if the Nook simple Touch can play Crash bandicoot fine then the Xperia play should ;p. i want to say sony has a market place that allows you to download PSClassics. and if you still dont like the performence you can always overclock it. if you want a alternate, it sounds like you want a big phone but small enough to take around and probably Either the Samsung Galaxy Mega 5.8 or 6.3, they are both great devices but the 6.3 would be a better choice and worth the few extra bucks. another recommendation would be Whatever Blu Device would suite your needs, they have a huge line of devices you can find. Good luck!

Trozzul said:
The Xperia play is still surprisingly a great phone, it would be able to run a PSX emulator just fine, if the Nook simple Touch can play Crash bandicoot fine then the Xperia play should ;p. i want to say sony has a market place that allows you to download PSClassics. and if you still dont like the performence you can always overclock it. if you want a alternate, it sounds like you want a big phone but small enough to take around and probably Either the Samsung Galaxy Mega 5.8 or 6.3, they are both great devices but the 6.3 would be a better choice and worth the few extra bucks. another recommendation would be Whatever Blu Device would suite your needs, they have a huge line of devices you can find. Good luck!
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I don't really want a small or big device, it doesn't matter as long as it had good performance emulating. What i want are physicals command, no touch ones. Xperia PLAY has those included in the mobile. Other mobiles should get those with a PAD but there are only huge ones. The Xperia PLAY is outstanding for that reason.
ANyway if you say the Xperia it's actually still good at emulating it sounds like a good choice for me.
Thank you vm ^^

Leonstrife said:
I don't really want a small or big device, it doesn't matter as long as it had good performance emulating. What i want are physicals command, no touch ones. Xperia PLAY has those included in the mobile. Other mobiles should get those with a PAD but there are only huge ones. The Xperia PLAY is outstanding for that reason.
ANyway if you say the Xperia it's actually still good at emulating it sounds like a good choice for me.
Thank you vm ^^
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you can get a controller for a phone that has a touchscreen only so it sorta has that Play Feel like a PSP, i would recommend a moga pocket for Emulators like GBA/SNES that such controls but not a great on a psx emulator. and the Moga pro (i have this and its awesome) and would be perfect for other android games or PSX and sorta great on GBA/NES and such.

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[Request] PSX Emulator for Android

Hi guys, I was hoping we could get a project together to work on a Playstation 1 emulator for Android.
What I miss about my HD2 was FPSECE.
Something like this for us Android users (mainly snapdragon) would be awesome!
A paid app for it would be even better. (money going to whoever creates the app, not me)
Tell me your ideas on this!
+1 was thinking about this when i found at that the N900 had a PSX Emu, Chrome Broswer and Firefox :|
PSX Emu is on almost everythin except Android :/
lolittle said:
+1 was thinking about this when i found at that the N900 had a PSX Emu, Chrome Broswer and Firefox :|
PSX Emu is on almost everythin except Android :/
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Would be cool.. but I'm sure it would absolutely KILL the battery
How do you plan on controlling games?
I can't really see this being an enjoyable experience, unless you have a BT controller or something and you're sitting on a plane or bus where you can prop your phone up.
Iphone has it... wers its buttons ... as long as touchscreen buttons are correctly layed out across the screen it shud be fine. I dont find it hard to play the snes emu or any other emu on the nexus tbh
Also on the N900 they got the ps3 pad hooked up... maybe thats summet that can be done on android, now that would be...
I'm more interested in a n64 emulator myself.
mikebeatrice said:
How do you plan on controlling games?
I can't really see this being an enjoyable experience, unless you have a BT controller or something and you're sitting on a plane or bus where you can prop your phone up.
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Maybe somebody could figure or a way to connect a dual shock 3 via bluetooth. lol
I saw that someone managed to get the Wii controller to connect to the iPhone for playing games
This would be absolutely awesome!
Thanks for all the responses guys!
I think we cold make this or a N64 emulator happen for snapdragon devices.
For a physical controller:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13760
bump. Let's get this thread going again!
I would personally love to see this happen and have loads of GI Bill money to DONATE toward the cause!
hefelfury said:
I would personally love to see this happen and have loads of GI Bill money to DONATE toward the cause!
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oooh! that would be awesome.
Maybe someone with C++, linux, and java can help us out
Has anyone tried contacting the developer of Fpsece or the developer of Psx4all? They might be able to help get a ps1 emulator for android.
Yes and was completely ignored...
this is a shame, with android becoming more and more popular, a KILLER app like this could change the tide faster. I hope some bright folks reconsider and make one.
Guys with the way the Nexus handles multi touch, PSX games would be near unplayable. Any game where you are pressing multiple buttons simultaneously will have a big problem translating over. Hell, this even applies to many of the SNES roms there.
sad news i was surprised on how well the hd2 handled it. damn do i miss playing psx on it
PSX emulator would be a waste of time, how do you expect to emulate 2 analog control sticks, 4 buttons and the R1/R2/L1/L2 buttons? Only very basic games would be playable.
Even playing PSX games on a PSP is difficult enough sometimes.
knightnz said:
PSX emulator would be a waste of time, how do you expect to emulate 2 analog control sticks, 4 buttons and the R1/R2/L1/L2 buttons? Only very basic games would be playable.
Even playing PSX games on a PSP is difficult enough sometimes.
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its not a waste of time..its available for windows mobile and works beautifully for the hd2..also on the iphone
and it is almost done..yongzh the creator of the emulators on android and zodttd the creator of the emulators for iphone are working together on it

Where are the games?

So I've had my phone for a couple weeks now, I was hearing all this buzz about how awesome Android is now and how far it's come so I just took the plunge. The phone has been fun to use and explore as far as widgets are concerned etc... but if I would ever make this my full time device it would have to do everything that my other phone (iPhone4) does. This brings me to the games... so far on the market all I've seen are pretty shoddy looking atari or nintendo looking games, where are all the graphically intensive and/or beautifully designed games in the market? How do I find games that actually take advantage of the GPU in my phone (Galaxy S)?
Gameloft has bunch of 3D games like Avatar and Assiasin's Creed for Android on their website, I can't post links so just google it or go to Gameloft.com and go to their Android section.
Also, emulators
itpromike said:
So I've had my phone for a couple weeks now, I was hearing all this buzz about how awesome Android is now and how far it's come so I just took the plunge. The phone has been fun to use and explore as far as widgets are concerned etc... but if I would ever make this my full time device it would have to do everything that my other phone (iPhone4) does. This brings me to the games... so far on the market all I've seen are pretty shoddy looking atari or nintendo looking games, where are all the graphically intensive and/or beautifully designed games in the market? How do I find games that actually take advantage of the GPU in my phone (Galaxy S)?
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So you just play games on your phone.... Get PSP or a GBA.
khaytsus said:
So you just play games on your phone.... Get PSP or a GBA.
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Why don't you go buy a dumb flip phone and supplement it with a PDA? Oh, maybe because you want one device to do multiple things? Imagine that. With phones like the Epic out, phones are starting to pack some pretty nice GPUs - you shouldn't dismiss gaming just like that.
To the OP: Check out Gameloft's stuff like someone else mentioned, they really are top of the line, but they refused to list their games in the marketplace. SNESoid, NESoid can run SNES/NES games. There's also some decent paid games in the Marketplace, you can usually find a demo or Lite version to try. With more people flocking to Android, more developers will start creating fleshed out games other than Bejweled clones (hopefully).
khaytsus said:
So you just play games on your phone.... Get PSP or a GBA.
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I wonder why people say garbage like oh get a PSP if you want to play games, Or if you want to use a navigation system get a gps, etc. I for one buy a device so I can do it all with one device. Or else I wouldn't buy it. End of point.
oh if you want a phone buy a land line phone instead it works better??? Logical I think not!
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Except Gameloft that begins to bring its Iphone hits to Android, there are few 3D games on our favorite platform.
Few days ago, I played Asphalt 5, that's not a bad game, because Gameloft proposed some free demo versions on its website (not avalaible n the market)
You can also try some good games you can find on the market like Speed forge 3D or Replica Island (not in 3D but a very good game).
At least you can try emulators (gensoid, gameboid...)
Woolios said:
I wonder why people say garbage like oh get a PSP if you want to play games, Or if you want to use a navigation system get a gps, etc. I for one buy a device so I can do it all with one device. Or else I wouldn't buy it. End of point.
oh if you want a phone buy a land line phone instead it works better??? Logical I think not!
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You can also enter a Ford Fiesta into an Indy car race too...
Best tool for the job is the simple summary. I for one am glad that the entire market isn't dominated by games.. With all of the porn and sound boards there wouldn't be any actual useful apps left.
itpromike said:
So I've had my phone for a couple weeks now, I was hearing all this buzz about how awesome Android is now and how far it's come so I just took the plunge. The phone has been fun to use and explore as far as widgets are concerned etc... but if I would ever make this my full time device it would have to do everything that my other phone (iPhone4) does. This brings me to the games... so far on the market all I've seen are pretty shoddy looking atari or nintendo looking games, where are all the graphically intensive and/or beautifully designed games in the market? How do I find games that actually take advantage of the GPU in my phone (Galaxy S)?
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try this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqZ4nqzr45E
itpromike said:
So I've had my phone for a couple weeks now, I was hearing all this buzz about how awesome Android is now and how far it's come so I just took the plunge. The phone has been fun to use and explore as far as widgets are concerned etc... but if I would ever make this my full time device it would have to do everything that my other phone (iPhone4) does. This brings me to the games... so far on the market all I've seen are pretty shoddy looking atari or nintendo looking games, where are all the graphically intensive and/or beautifully designed games in the market? How do I find games that actually take advantage of the GPU in my phone (Galaxy S)?
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You can also play PS1, N64 games on your android phone.
stickyasglue said:
try this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqZ4nqzr45E
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Cool video, showed me some games I'd missed.
A question about Gameloft's games; I downloaded Dungeon Hunter, love it!
aTrackDog tells me there's a more up-to-date version than what I have, but I can't access it from the market.
Are their games auto update? Or do I need to do it manually?
Wiicked_Fuze said:
You can also play PS1, N64 games on your android phone.
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N64? Link?
how do i play all these old console games? do i need an emulator and roms? i would REALLY like to play final fantasy 7... is that possible?
Benny_L said:
how do i play all these old console games? do i need an emulator and roms? i would REALLY like to play final fantasy 7... is that possible?
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You need psx4droid...
And you'll need the bios of the ps and images of the files...
FFVII runs really well (on samsung i9000)
You should try quake3droid if you like FPS games. It's awesome.

[Q] GTA III full gamepad support?

Have we heard anything regarding GTA III getting full Xperia Play optimization? I mean, we have two joysticks right there and the game doesn't use them, when the original game used dual joysticks.
Any word?
definetly +1
Oh it uses them alright, just poorly.
I'd LOVE to see them use it right though. Moving with dpad instead of analog, and having to center the camera instead of just aiming correctly is lame as hell.
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i got gta III too but he is slow?
Srry for my bad english i'm dutch and 14
I've a stock rom OC'd to 1.6 and it still lags, very little installed on the phone too...dunno why
I suggest you contact Rockstar Support here and complain (nicely!). I opened a support ticket with them and explained to them that I purchased the game b/c I saw that the phone was "supported" and I interpreted that to mean that there is full support for the Play's PS controller. I also suggested that they let me map the buttons as I see fit, like the PC versions. I also suggested that they could let us use the volume up/down buttons as the second set of L triggers or onscreen softkeys for the second set, and we could replicate the PS2 controls perfectly.
I got them to admit after a couple of replies back and forth with them that the game does not fully support the Play's controller. It's not public, but my support request # is 157050, you may want to mention it in your ticket, in order to show them that people other than me are interested in this. In the end they said they forwarded my request to the development team. I doubt they'll actually fix it unless more people complain.
Not to change subject at all, but Are you guys even actually able to use these damn touch-pad-thinggies?lol. I have tried in Shadowgun, GTA III, & Modern Combat 2, & some others games but its hard for me! Especially the games that have shooting. Maybe its only me ,but I feel the touchpads are the weakest part of the controllers design. I think they are a good start for 1st PS phone ,but I hope they are replaced by something else in the next model.
Battlefield....b*tch.
cyrusalmighty said:
Not to change subject at all, but Are you guys even actually able to use these damn touch-pad-thinggies?lol. I have tried in Shadowgun, GTA III, & Modern Combat 2, & some others games but its hard for me!
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Shadowgun would be a good example of how developers screw up touchpad usage. When they're used correctly, they feel very nice.
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Agreed, Fifa 12 is a good example on how good they are, I think Rockstar put very minimal support in... don't know.
cyrusalmighty said:
Not to change subject at all, but Are you guys even actually able to use these damn touch-pad-thinggies?lol. I have tried in Shadowgun, GTA III, & Modern Combat 2, & some others games but its hard for me! Especially the games that have shooting. Maybe its only me ,but I feel the touchpads are the weakest part of the controllers design. I think they are a good start for 1st PS phone ,but I hope they are replaced by something else in the next model.
Battlefield....b*tch.
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The problem is that devs are just mapping analog thumbstick style controls to them, which DOES NOT WORK without being able to start moving from a true center position. Dead Space does it right with aiming controls that work more like a touch screen. It doesn't start spinning left just because you touched it slightly to the left of center; instead, it considers your initial point of contact to be the virtual center. Then, it moves proportionally at the speed you move and stops when you stop, like a mouse or touchpad on a laptop. Unlike the poor controls in so many other apps, it doesn't continue moving in a direction until you "let go" or the virtual stick. It just works. Try Shadowgun on a tablet and you'll see that the touch screen controls work almost exactly like that, but even they did the stupid "map like an analog stick" method on their Xperia PLAY "optimization."
I agree: Battlefield Bad Company 2 is MADDENINGLY BAD!
Try now, it just got updated with much better controls!
Still no touch pads, but at least the rest of the buttons are more in line now.
Also liking the new display settings and performance increase.
speedyink said:
Still no touch pads, but at least the rest of the buttons are more in line now.
Also liking the new display settings and performance increase.
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Do you mean just no touch pads for moving? Because it has touch pad functions on mine and always has done, they're how you change the radio
The Alpha Gamer said:
Do you mean just no touch pads for moving? Because it has touch pad functions on mine and always has done, they're how you change the radio
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Sorry, yes that's what I meant.

NDS4Droid

If you dont know what this app is, its a Nintendo DS emulator for android phones that was never taken out of BETA.Since this has been removed from the market i think all development has stopped, i think this is a real shame because it has a lot of potential especially with higher and higher specs on android phones.
There are probably similar threads already but i think the subject has run dry and i want to keep the idea of such a cool app in android owners minds.
I was wondering if any developer would take up the job of either starting fresh or adding onto NDS4Droid app. I would but i have no clue where to start when it comes to coding so i cant be much help
The reason i have posted this into the xperia play section is because i would hope that eventually it would be controller optimised.
This is my second thing i have posted in the forums so sorry if i have done anything wrong. Feel free to correct me on anything
+1
This was just the kinda thing I was hoping for, seeing all the groundwork on it going to waste is just a shame :/ Hopefully an awesome Dev will pick it up !
Do you people understand why this project never got very far?
It was because of the hardware capability of our phones. It was not enough for a fully functional DS Emulator which is why development had stopped.
And even if someone did want to continue the Development of this for some unknown reason, then it is impossible because the source code never got released.
The hardware is stron enough, NDS is compareable to N64 but much lower resolution.
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Try TigerNDS it supports physical button mapping
http://apps.tigerplay.info/
Also I do belive that with enough optimisations NDS emultion could run full (or near full) speed on the xperia play. Obviously you need to get a talented developer with enough free time on thier hand to actuall bother doing this.
If a new emu never gets made then we could use this current one with future hardware when it gets powerfull enough but thats still a good couple of years away and also none of the current NDS emulators have audio emulation...
Of course the hardware is good enough for the ds we are getting psp games soon which are better graphics than the ds.....
clewis said:
Of course the hardware is good enough for the ds we are getting psp games soon which are better graphics than the ds.....
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That is because the those games are direct ports and not emulated. Emulators require like x3+ hardware of the actual console which is why some PSX/N64 Games still lag because they are using "Emulation".
The games will be ports and not ran by an emulator so just remember that
NDS has like a 66mhz ARM processor in it. It should be possible hardware wise, but not so ideal in the physical side of things. Showing two 3" screens on one 4" screen will look awkward, especially since the screens are supposed to be one on top of the other.
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NDS has like a 66mhz ARM processor in it.
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I was hoping someone would bring this fact to light.
Quality DS emulation is definitely possible. I'm waiting on one of these NDS emulators to offer the option to only emulate/display one of it's screens. A lot of the times, the second screen could be completely ignored, and that'd drastically improve performance.
All I'd really want an NDS emu for is Phantasy Star Zero... that alongside many other DS games can be played using only one screen.
i'm sure that xperia play can support it . it's looooooooong time that i hope to see update for tiger NDS or NDS4droid
i'm really really eager to help someone ( donate ) want to start this project . i've sent sooooo many mails to tiger , but no answer .
lets try it together and find a way to start it guys.
do you follow me ?
Could a dev maybe port a few of the popular games? anything is better than nothing
JoshyHino said:
Could a dev maybe port a few of the popular games? anything is better than nothing
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i do agree , please port some popular games , mario series
yes! it is totally doable, especially on high end phones now, like my Galaxy Nexus. let's get to work guys!!
I already got PSP games Loco Roco Midnight Carnival in my Play, im sure this game is not a port, it run with Playstation Pocket just like Crash Bandicoot and PSXPERIA converted PSX games, only different by some software coding because it failed while i try to extract it with PSXPERIA.
PSP had better graphic than NDS, im pretty sure Xperia Play have more than enough power to run the game.
JoshyHino said:
Could a dev maybe port a few of the popular games? anything is better than nothing
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mehdi.moha said:
i do agree , please port some popular games , mario series
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You cant not just port a game with was released for completly different plattform. You need the source code to do this and no nds game (except some homebrew) is open source.
Since NDS not a Sony's . We will never get nicely emulated game on our phone
johnylim said:
Since NDS not a Sony's . We will never get nicely emulated game on our phone
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a question
is sony owner of nintendo64 , super nintendo , genesis ... ????!!!!
NDS games is different and is not similar to psp , please post your comment about psp on another forum
Please read carefully my statement. I said 'NDS not owned by SONY's' ,and i said 'I already own PSP games Loco Rock MC running in my XPERIA Play' , im not posting about any PSP device.
If i write about Arcade games running on my X Play, do you want me to post it on other /arcade forum too ?
johnylim said:
Please read carefully my statement. I said 'NDS not owned by SONY's' ,and i said 'I already own PSP games Loco Rock MC running in my XPERIA Play' , im not posting about any PSP device.
If i write about Arcade games running on my X Play, do you want me to post it on other /arcade forum too ?
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misunderstood !!
please talk about NS as much as you can ... to turn on this project
I don't know if this is enough but you can easily convert the dex file to jar and then decompile the jar file to view the source of the emulator.

Sega Saturn EMU...... awesome!!!!!!!

Found this on the Xperia Gamer website and wanted to bring it to everyone attention. I still use my Sega Saturn to this day and have the import/ additional memory cartridge and a modchip to play my backups. Anyway here is the info.
http://www.xperiagamer.com/Blog3/sega-saturn-emulator-update.html
Oh... and Albert Odyssey is an awesome game I would love to play it on my phone....... I would proudly pee my self and not be embarrased by it due to my excitement...
Again.... just sharing....enjoy
Sweet, keep them all emus coming to the XP!
That is great news (for the future). Unfortunately, given the state of Saturn emulation, I doubt we'll be able to enjoy it on our current Xperia Plays.
Saturn emulation seems to be quite CPU intensive, much more so than the PS1.
However it is great to know that the emulator is being worked on at the moment, because it may very well be usable on the next version of the Xperia Play.
benoitb85 said:
That is great news (for the future). Unfortunately, given the state of Saturn emulation, I doubt we'll be able to enjoy it on our current Xperia Plays.
Saturn emulation seems to be quite CPU intensive, much more so than the PS1.
However it is great to know that the emulator is being worked on at the moment, because it may very well be usable on the next version of the Xperia Play.
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From what I have read the reason for such difficulty with the SS is that it has 2 CPUs working togetherm completely independant and seperate. So while its easy to program for 1 CPU its a lot mroe intense to get the sofrware to work as 2 CPUs, that also a reason why most games didnt look that good on the SS as most devs at that time were not good enough or didnt want to take the time to try to use both CPUs in a game, especially considering how much cheaper and more popular the PS1 was in comparison....... I have read that in power terms if the SS was coded at its max with full hardware being used it would be much more powerful then the PS1, but thats all dust news now, 15 years.....anyway, looking forward to this.... I still play mt SS to this day but the prospects of one day playing the games on my phone.... even if its NOT the XP gives me awesome vibes...

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