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I am a new member on xda, however i have read posts and forums to resolve issues with my gt-p1000n. I now own a Motorola Razr (XT910), on 2.3.5 rooted. I want to play the new 9 innings from Com2us and Inotia4. As you may all know this is not possible if your device is rooted. I have played them both on my wifes SGS2 with shell root, and sure enough...they run perfectly fine. My phone is full in root, is there any way around this? Someone please help!!!!
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I am a new member on xda, however i have read posts and forums to resolve issues with my gt-p1000n. I now own a Motorola Razr (XT910), on 2.3.5 rooted. I want to play the new 9 innings from Com2us and Inotia4. As you may all know this is not possible if your device is rooted. I have played them both on my wifes SGS2 with shell root, and sure enough...they run perfectly fine. My phone is full in root, is there any way around this? Someone please help!!!!
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did you use a one click root? if so most of them can unroot, so you could just unroot for a bit to get your gaming on.
Good to know, I'm new to XDA and hacking my devices. I had know idea that some games or apps wouldn't work on rooted devices. Now I know
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I actually did...i used super one click. Yeah it's fast once you've attained the Motorola drivers for your device. I was looking for a work around with much less hassle. In my opinion the Motorola Razr beats Samsungs Galaxy I & II in performance and video/audio quality (haven't compared against an SIII yet). Only if the Motorola Razr is rooted though. Motorola has so much more bloatware compared to Samsung, so battery life is just terrible on such an amazing device. I do appreciate the reply though, thanks! Way to make a new member feel welcomed. Looking for a full on work around, that won't require me to temoprarily unroot then reroot. Thanks though @ loosedupon!
Yup, there are quite a few actually. Don't let that stop you from rooting though, i don't know how to flash and **** like that. Personally, I'd prefer not to though. Due to all the different outcomes if you load the incorrect files. However, rooting my device has made me truly enjoy my devices (gt-p1000n & razr xt910). My Galaxy Tablet is one of the first batches out in the Latin American versions (the original 7in. with a ****ty 400 ram availability). I played Blood Brothers and Quest and Sorcery on it with little to no lags or hangs opposed to my razr. @wannahit
Try Voodoo OTA rootkeeper. It will protect root, but also allow you to temporarily unroot with the " push of a button" I use it for google movies. Works good.
Thanks chrism.brunner! I will try that. I actually tried Hide My Root, it worked. For that to work, you must set a password first. That password is needed to hide/uninstall the su apk, and su binary. I was super baked when i set mine! About 45 minutes later tried to restore my binary files. I forgot the ****ing password, [email protected]! What upset me was, there was no recovery process to have my password reset. I had to re-root my device. I will give OTA a try though. Thanks!
Just so you know, OTA Rootkeeper's latest version will not save an SU binary in /system/xbin.
So when you re-root your device, you will have to go into /system/bin and scroll down and copy SU. Then go into /system/xbin and paste it in there and set your permissions. Not having it in xbin sometimes causes some Root applications to not run.
I've use OTA on my Transformer for 6 updates now and restored each and every time. Granted that is for a Asus product. If worse come to worse, you could always just SBF back to stock using RSDlite (I'm an ex-Motorola user btw).
Thanks for the help! @ Woodrube
I actually just finished using OTA Rootkeeper. It restored my su back up fine. I tested it on 9 innings 2013, and i still ended up with the same results. I also tried the temp. unroot and ota survival options on superuser. Same as OTA Rootkeeper, i do intend on keeping the app for further uses. Hopefully i won't get the same result as 9 innings!
I am a better hands on learner than a read and study. I am also not ashamed of my ignorance. With that being said, what the f*ck is a SBF and RSDlite?
No need to be ashamed. Every one of us was new at one time.
An sbf file, is the Motorola file for reflashing the stock operating system to the phone. It returns the phone to the way it was brand new.
Rsd lite is the program used to flash the sbf file. It is installed to your computer, and and " installs" the software on your phone. It can be dangerous if you flash previous versions of android. Many have bricked their devices with this.
Once again, thanks! I was completely lost with Woodrube's reply. I am also fully aware of the possibilities of bricking while flashing. So flashing is something I refuse as a resolve. So all of that are things I won't attempt, to simply avoid that from occurring.
How about if I uninstalled root and replaced it with shell root. My wife has a GT-i9100 on 4.0.3, with shell root...I know the pro and con of shell root vs root. Surprisingly, she hasn't lost her root access! However, with shell root your device only has temporary root access. Will I still be able to grant su access, for apps such as lucky patcher, TB, and the many other apps used to tweak performance and settings?
Man this is burning out my mind!!!! Maybe, I'll just give it a try...won't know until I try right? On SuperOneClick, which exploit should I use though? Should I use motofail, zergrush, or gingerbreak? I am currently running 2.3.5 (on a Razr XT910, of course) which is a gingerbread, if I am correct. I used zergRush on my GT-P1000N running 2.3.4 which I'm assuming is a gingerbread too.
Also, what are ideal min. - max. values for over/underclocking my device? Where I won't sacrifice too much performance for battery life.
I used the automatic script for unlocking the bootloader, rooting, and installing cwm. I used unlock_ version 4.2.
As to overclocking, I don't anymore. The phone I am using now is a new one from Motorola to replace the one with constant reboots. I am told it was a hardware issue, but I'm not sure of it wasn't related to constant changing kernels and overclocking. I am actually satisfied with the atrix on the stock kernel and clock speed.
I haven't used the root that you are talking about, but it might be an option. Try it on your wifes phone, if you can.
Let me know, if you will. I'm interested now.
As to sbf files, no need to worry about it. I have found it to be totally safe. If you Need to get back to stock, it works. I have done it many times. Just flash the same or newer version.
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Could this not be worked around by denying root access to the game using superuser?
thanks, thanks! i bricked my xt910 changing the boot logo. at least i know not to change that from now on.
What app were you using to change the boot logo?
Rom Manager Pro....and no you can't work around by denying root access. The games are granted permission to see all apps running in background. I have tried denying such permissions with Permission Denied, whatever the name is. All it did was automatically close the game. Didn't even launch at all, immediately closed.
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I am in big dilemma; either to root my tab or not.
There is no bloatware to remove and I dont want to play with it with custom roms like I do in my phone.
But I want to install different launcher which need su power to fix widgets.
So should I root it or not I am soooo much confused.
Sorry I can't answer that for you. I was about to ask the same question but in a slightly different form. This is my first tab ( a tab isn't worth getting if it doesn't have an active digitizer ), and I would like to know whether or not to root. The way I see it is that it breaks down into two lists: pros and cons, which I think is also the way you want to look at it. So aside from a custom rom, what are the pros and cons of rooting your Note?
All I want is different launcher with su power. . Touch wiz is silly. Dont let me resize all widgets and eat my all space.
With out root I cant place widgets on home screen in different launcher.
bikrame said:
I am in big dilemma; either to root my tab or not.
There is no bloatware to remove and I dont want to play with it with custom roms like I do in my phone.
But I want to install different launcher which need su power to fix widgets.
So should I root it or not I am soooo much confused.
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I'm in the same dire dilemma...
Root Pros:
Many very useful apps require root to access the inner system settings
It allows to see what's behind the curtains of one's Android device (browse and see system files and settings) and (slowly) learn how does it work
Root Cons:
The device can loose its immaculate "official" status, loose the warranty and the OTA updates.
Some app (mainly apps dealing with media contents and concerned with possible copyright infringements) may stop working if they detect a rooted device, by means of the binary counter, that could anyhow be zeroed with "Triangle Away", or by the mere presence of the SuperUser (SuperSU) app.
The ideal way would be to root but, at the same time, being able to completely hide the rooted status of the device; both for Samsung warranty and Ota updates and for those apps that stop working if they "sniff" a rooted device... but I think that's not possible yet...
I find rooting a device also plugs a lot of security exploits too...
If you're able to, taking back to stock is fairly easy but that can be a BIG if sometimes....
Overall I find having root is a big "+". It allows me touse my device how I want and plugs those holes left by Google/Samsung in their OS.
Each person should evaluate if they need to or not but I find it a lot better to root simply for peace of mind... at least if I get a virus that destroys my tab , I'm the one who gave it root access... The blame is mine other than the tab dies mysteriously one day..
Rooting was super simple with the exynos exploit apk, if you didn't update. I rooted using that apk, then used the same developer's MobileOdin app to update while keeping root. For me, I'd say that rooting is very useful on this tablet because you can also enable multiwindow for every single app, something you won't have without rooting..
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For me, I'd say that rooting is very useful on this tablet because you can also enable multiwindow for every single app, something you won't have without rooting..
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I thought you got that with JB?
JB only have a few apps added to have multiwindows then ICS...but if you root you can use multiwindow manager to add multiwindows ability to all apps.
Also adds the ability to freeze unwanted apps, backup OS in case of bad things happening (settings, OS and user data) and to truly set things up as you, the owner and user, want...
Allows 3rd party tracking apps like cerberus to track and remotely wipe sensitive data in case tablet goes missing not to mention turn on GPS to track and get pics of person using it.
In my view worth it for Titanium Backup Pro and Nandroid backup .
Warranty void easy enough to put that right .
OTA updates don't work not a problem this is after all XDA .
jje
I don't see the confusion on your part. It's a simple decision imo. You want an ability to do something that can only be done with root. Just because you root, doesn't mean you have to customize in any other way.
As far as OTA's go that should be a non–issue as well since they are mostly a joke as far as improvement in any significant way. Everything they have is readily available here on XDA and more often than not sooner.
bikrame said:
All I want is different launcher with su power. . Touch wiz is silly. Dont let me resize all widgets and eat my all space.
With out root I cant place widgets on home screen in different launcher.
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Forgive me if I haven't totally understood what you want.....but you can install any launcher you want without rooting. I have Go Launcher, it allows me to resize Widgets etc.
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Markhypnosis said:
Forgive me if I haven't totally understood what you want.....but you can install any launcher you want without rooting. I have Go Launcher, it allows me to resize Widgets etc.
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Yeah. Do u really need root just to change launcher?
Unless u need it for other reason, I don't think root is needed just for changing the launcher.
But if u want root access, then yes, ur device need to be rooted.
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Yup I got that guys. Thank you.
I tried long time ago and it didnt work. Now it does
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sphere314 said:
...The ideal way would be to root but, at the same time, being able to completely hide the rooted status of the device; both for Samsung warranty and Ota updates and for those apps that stop working if they "sniff" a rooted device... but I think that's not possible yet...
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A new possible solution for some Samsung devices is here.
I haven't tried it yet, but, according to the thread posts it seems that:
it can preserve the official status and the binary counter
there's an "unroot" option, so that, if some apps sniffs the rooted status and stops working, you can temporarily unroot and have it work again
If anyone has actually tried it on the GNote 10.1, his comments will be appreciated.
Backup apps and data without root
JJEgan said:
In my view worth it for Titanium Backup Pro and Nandroid backup .
Warranty void easy enough to put that right .
OTA updates don't work not a problem this is after all XDA .
jje
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You all know that there is a new backup program that does not need root to backup apps and app data.
Its called "Carbon - App Sync and Backup" by ClockworkMod
Here is the link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
It works great.
sphere314 said:
A new possible solution for some Samsung devices is here.
I haven't tried it yet, but, according to the thread posts it seems that:
it can preserve the official status and the binary counter
there's an "unroot" option, so that, if some apps sniffs the rooted status and stops working, you can temporarily unroot and have it work again
If anyone has actually tried it on the GNote 10.1, his comments will be appreciated.
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kkretch said:
You all know that there is a new backup program that does not need root to backup apps and app data.
Its called "Carbon - App Sync and Backup" by ClockworkMod
Here is the link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
It works great.
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I've tried them both and I'm really satisfied with the results.
1) before trying the Framaroot app I used Carbon backup to make a full backup of all my apps data (without root).
2) after that, being confident enough I could restore back my tablet apps data (in case something went wrong), I used the Framaroot app to get root.
Result:
1) I could backup my app's data before rooting
2) With Framaroot I have now root access. Anyway, the most important thing is that my device status has remained "Official" (1) and the binary counter is "unchanged" as well!
I wouldn't ever think that it was possible to root a device without having to change the recovery and, by doing so, change the device status/binary counter.
Now I know it's possible
(1) EDIT feb-17-2013
Update: the device status is now "Custom". Yet, after the rooting, I checked and rebooted more than one time. There must be some Android service that checks the presence of root periodically and finds out, sooner or later, if the device is rooted
sphere314 said:
I've tried them both and I'm really satisfied with the results.
1) before trying the Framaroot app I used Carbon backup to make a full backup of all my apps data (without root).
2) after that, being confident enough I could restore back my tablet apps data (in case something went wrong), I used the Framaroot app to get root.
Result:
1) I could backup my app's data before rooting
2) With Framaroot I have now root access. Anyway, et hemost important thing is that my device status has remained "Official" and the binary counter is "unchanged" as well!
I wouldn't ever think that it was possible to root a device without having to change the recovery and, by doing so, change the device status/binary counter.
Now I know it's possible
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Thank you for the info on framaroot. I read the thread you had linked earlier and decided to try it out on my old Archos 101 gen 8 (since the developer indicated he was able to root this device with framaroot) before attempting to install it on my note. Needless to say, it didn't work on the Archos (tried it twice) and I ended up having to reformat both times because the tablet got stuck in a boot loop. Was installation really that smooth on your note and can you confirm that you're running JB 4.1.2 not 4.1.1 (saw your post in the framaroot thread).
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Thank you for the info on framaroot. I read the thread you had linked earlier and decided to try it out on my old Archos 101 gen 8 (since the developer indicated he was able to root this device with framaroot) before attempting to install it on my note. Needless to say, it didn't work on the Archos (tried it twice) and I ended up having to reformat both times because the tablet got stuck in a boot loop. Was installation really that smooth on your note and can you confirm that you're running JB 4.1.2 not 4.1.1 (saw your post in the framaroot thread).
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As I said in the other thread I'm not 100% sure about JB 4.1.1 or 4.1.2.
All I'm sure of is that the firmware code is N8000XXCLL3-N8000ITVCLL1
According to Sammobile it is 4.1.1 but according to Samsung-updates it is 4.1.2. In the tablet, in the "Settings - About device" page the Android version reported is 4.1.2.
Since I'm now rooted maybe I could find out the real Android version (beneath Samsung's touchwiz) by having a quick look at some of the system file... if anyone could tell me where to look .
Anyway I can confirm that my rooting process was really smooth, that it took less than a minute and that my Note's Status has stayed "Official". (1)
Probably I was just lucky or the firmware I had on the GNote 10.1 is one of those with which Framaroot works ok.
(1) EDIT feb-17-2013
Update: the device status is now "Custom". Yet, after the rooting, I checked and rebooted more than one time. There must be some Android service that checks the presence of root periodically and finds out, sooner or later, if the device is rooted
sphere314 said:
As I said in the other thread I'm not 100% sure about JB 4.1.1 or 4.1.2.
All I'm sure of is that the firmware code is N8000XXCLL3-N8000ITVCLL1
According to Sammobile it is 4.1.1 but according to Samsung-updates it is 4.1.2. In the tablet, in the "Settings - About device" page the Android version reported is 4.1.2.
Since I'm now rooted maybe I could find out the real Android version (beneath Samsung's touchwiz) by having a quick look at some of the system file... if anyone could tell me where to look .
Anyway I can confirm that my rooting process was really smooth, that it took less than a minute and that my Note's Status has stayed "Official".
Probably I was just lucky or the firmware I had on the GNote 10.1 is one of those with which Framaroot works ok.
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Thank you. I may wait to see if other note users with JB 4.1.2 report success with Framaroot before I try it on my note since I had issues with a device that the developer had been able to root with his program. Even though I've backed up with Carbon, I don't care to deal with my note stuck in a virtual boot loop. I appreciate you pointing out Framaroot I hadn't seen the thread on it.
Hi everyone,
I just got my Shield today, and it have been a hard work setting it up
anyway, I have a few questions regarding rooting this thing:
1. Besides from some priviledges I get (ie: in Greenify, Backup apps, access to system partition), is it really worth rooting this thing? (I just found out that all the settings will be gone, everything has to be re-done again)
2. Is it dangerous? Is there a chance rooting screw-up something and this thing get bricked or constant error?
3. If so, is there a way to reverse (like phone ROMs)?
4. Do I have to re-root this thing after every nvidia system updates?
5. If so, is it a painfully long process to re-root?
Thanks everyone
siuking666 said:
Hi everyone,
I just got my Shield today, and it have been a hard work setting it up
anyway, I have a few questions regarding rooting this thing:
1. Besides from some priviledges I get (ie: in Greenify, Backup apps, access to system partition), is it really worth rooting this thing? (I just found out that all the settings will be gone, everything has to be re-done again)
2. Is it dangerous? Is there a chance rooting screw-up something and this thing get bricked or constant error?
3. If so, is there a way to reverse (like phone ROMs)?
4. Do I have to re-root this thing after every nvidia system updates?
5. If so, is it a painfully long process to re-root?
Thanks everyone
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1 I root everything Android I have because of titanium backup. Being able to swap games to different devicesband not lose your data is worth it to me right there alone. Everyone finds their own reason I suppose.
2 and 3 it's really safe. Everything is readily available from nvidia and they are fine with customers rooting it. Even if the hardware breaks they will still RMA the device. But ya rooting it is pretty straight forward and there's several guides on it. There is custom recovery so you can create a nandroid if you mess something up. As long as you can access the bootloader You can restore the stock images via fastboot if you really mess something up.
4 and 5
Yes you have re root after each update but it's really easy to do. The hardest part of all this stuff is getting the drivers installed
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
hexitnow said:
1 I root everything Android I have because of titanium backup. Being able to swap games to different devicesband not lose your data is worth it to me right there alone. Everyone finds their own reason I suppose.
2 and 3 it's really safe. Everything is readily available from nvidia and they are fine with customers rooting it. Even if the hardware breaks they will still RMA the device. But ya rooting it is pretty straight forward and there's several guides on it. There is custom recovery so you can create a nandroid if you mess something up. As long as you can access the bootloader You can restore the stock images via fastboot if you really mess something up.
4 and 5
Yes you have re root after each update but it's really easy to do. The hardest part of all this stuff is getting the drivers installed
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
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Thanks
I actually rooted it today after watching the Youtube video made by XDA-developers.
It was awesome and this thing is running fine so far.
siuking666 said:
Thanks
I actually rooted it today after watching the Youtube video made by XDA-developers.
It was awesome and this thing is running fine so far.
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No problem
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
siuking666 said:
Thanks
I actually rooted it today after watching the Youtube video made by XDA-developers.
It was awesome and this thing is running fine so far.
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Link to this video
CAuse im concidering rooting my shield too
hexitnow said:
1 I root everything Android I have because of titanium backup. Being able to swap games to different devicesband not lose your data is worth it to me right there alone. Everyone finds their own reason I suppose.
2 and 3 it's really safe. Everything is readily available from nvidia and they are fine with customers rooting it. Even if the hardware breaks they will still RMA the device. But ya rooting it is pretty straight forward and there's several guides on it. There is custom recovery so you can create a nandroid if you mess something up. As long as you can access the bootloader You can restore the stock images via fastboot if you really mess something up.
4 and 5
Yes you have re root after each update but it's really easy to do. The hardest part of all this stuff is getting the drivers installed
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
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I second this. Its quite refreshing to find a company that openly welcomes devs to tinker with their toys and utilize their devices to the fullest.
Hi
My Verizon S3 (SCH-i535) has been off contract for a few months now. I'm considering buying a new phone, but I think the S3 is still a pretty good phone. However, I would really like to customize it a little if I'm going to keep it.
It has the latest OTA update (4.4.2), so I understand I can't load custom ROM's. But I can root it if I'm not mistaken. If that's right what I would like to do it remove some of the apps that I don't want or have no need for, but aren't uninstallable.
So, my questions are, does root let me do this? If so, is it fairly straight forward to do? And, how do I find out what is safe to remove and what will break my phone?
I'm at the point where if I can't 'make it my own' (short of a custom ROM) I'm going to by an unlocked phone. Which hopefully will give me more control than this one .
Thanks,
Jon
Yes, you can remove "unremovable" apps with root. Use Titanium Backup or a file explorer with root access. You just need to be careful that you don't remove something critical for the phone to operate. I would highly recommend installing the unofficial Safestrap for our bootloader locked phones and make a backup of the rom before you remove anything.
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roaddog665 said:
Yes, you can remove "unremovable" apps with root. Use Titanium Backup or a file explorer with root access. You just need to be careful that you don't remove something critical for the phone to operate. I would highly recommend installing the unofficial Safestrap for our bootloader locked phones and make a backup of the rom before you remove anything.
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Thanks. I had been planning on putting a few examples in the original post as examples. But when I went in the settings and looked at all the apps again (haven't poked around in there in a while) there were dozens. I couldn't decide which to list . So I guess I will have to be careful I don't go overboard.
I'm still trying to understand what Safestrap is, or does (although I did read some of the description). It sounds like even though we can't unlock the bootloader, and therefor replace the factory ROM, we can get the device to boot an alternate ROM stored on the SD card. I keep wondering if I have this right, it sounds a little odd. Or maybe not, I can't decide.
jdnandroid said:
Thanks. I had been planning on putting a few examples in the original post as examples. But when I went in the settings and looked at all the apps again (haven't poked around in there in a while) there were dozens. I couldn't decide which to list . So I guess I will have to be careful I don't go overboard.
I'm still trying to understand what Safestrap is, or does (although I did read some of the description). It sounds like even though we can't unlock the bootloader, and therefor replace the factory ROM, we can get the device to boot an alternate ROM stored on the SD card. I keep wondering if I have this right, it sounds a little odd. Or maybe not, I can't decide.
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Yeah, safestrap will let you run another rom, but it has to be based off of the stock 4.4.2 rom. I think there are 2 or 3. And the second rom will use the internal phone storage. So if you have the 16gb phone like I do, 2 roms don't leave much space. I just use safestrap as a custom recovery to make backups in case I screw something up and to flash a few things. I just use the stock rom and don't put a second one on. As far as what is safe to remove, if you find one you aren't sure of just Google it and you should be able to find out. There are several lists floating around. I usually disable them with titanium backup and leave them there, although a did remove a few so I could add some other apps to the system. They can't run when disabled so they aren't using ram or battery. If it has the android guy beside it, it is probably important! I think I have all the Samsung stuff and most of the Verizon disabled.
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hey, i just registered here to inform you all that ive figured out a way to root the new rca viking pro, but i cant seem to get supersu to install its updated binaries... i went about it like this, i searched google for kingroot app, installed it, followed the instructions it came with, and for my own benefit, i ran it twice just to make sure it worked. and wala, root! but the downside is they have their own form of su called king user. and i hate it. i hope this info helps someone, as ive came to this site on so many occaisions and everytime something on here bailed me out of a jam, i figured it was bout time i gave to a site that contributed so much to me. i love xda, and i hope someone here can get some nice things going with this tablet. thanks for your time... May
info on the RCT6303W87DK
also, FOR YOUR OWN GOOD, DO NOT CHANGE THE GENERIC.kl file on this device!!! the keyboard that comes with it, and the volume and power buttons on the device will NO LONGER function!!! just got a replacement from wallyworld because of my epic failure.... YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!! :good:
I tried a few different methods last night to install supersu binaries effectively breaking root a few times all resulting in using king root to "reroot". The main issue I'm having is it immediately has an update to version 1.9.1 (tablet firmware).. To get around this prompt lock the tablet, turn screen back on but unlock it with camera (bottom right). After doing this you get home rows back. Now since root I'm getting failures to install the update and every time it comes on I'm promoted for the update multiple times. Any ideas?
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I tried a few different methods last night to install supersu binaries effectively breaking root a few times all resulting in using king root to "reroot". The main issue I'm having is it immediately has an update to version 1.9.1 (tablet firmware).. To get around this prompt lock the tablet, turn screen back on but unlock it with camera (bottom right). After doing this you get home rows back. Now since root I'm getting failures to install the update and every time it comes on I'm promoted for the update multiple times. Any ideas?
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you have to be unrooted to apply system updates... then re root. king root should have an unroot option in app, so un rooting isnt hard. or you can hook the tab to your pc and use kingo to unroot. it will unroot, but it wont root...
I can confirm that kingroot does in fact have an option to unroot. I can also confirm that it is able to reroot after the 1.9.1 update.
Mine updated to that the first time I turned it on and I lost the update file. Can anyone tell a difference before and after the update?
I'm going to do a full stock ROM dump tonight to share. Just in case me or anyone else screws theirs up. I want to install a custom recovery and don't want to take any chances with it. Locked mtk bootloaders are ugly. Especially on these newer chipsets which cannot be unlocked as easily as the old ones.
Btw, before I finally found kingroot I must have tried about thirty different ways to root this thing. I tried several on phone root apps and a bunch of ones which required a pc connection to work and I came up short.
I got partial root with iroot 1.7 something for PC. It installed kingroot and would say that it was granting root to apps but noting actually had root.
Finally I found the latest version of vroot. V1.8 something, it had the same root database number as the earlier iroot which I had, though. Then I installed the pdanet drivers and ran the vroot and it worked! Finally! I spent hours on the stupid thing.
I did try the kingroot (iroot) apk and it couldn't root it and suggested I try the PC version.
What I'm getting at is that possibly fw 1.9.1 is just a security patch that makes it harder to root. Because when I tried the apk it couldn't handle it and I had to use the PC version with pdanet drivers to get it to work. While the apk worked for you on v1.9.0 (mine updated the first time I powered it on).
So if you install the update you might want to watch out for that.
It may be possible to stop the forced ota with fotakill. Just Google the apk and place it in your /system/app folder, then delete it rename the update in your cache folder and restart.
That has always worked for me so far on all of my other Android devices.
Cheers,
-SS
Used titanium back up to freeze the updater. Went to Dev options, enabled show processor usage or something to that nature.. Watched for any thing popping up that said update. I don't remember the exact apk but a simple search with in titanium for the word update returns the only app containing it. This did indeed solve my problem about the constant update. Also another work around to bypass the update, tell it to "download and install" then immediately his stop/cancel download. This will be my last post for now on the device as I no longer own it.
Have a blessed day!
For those wanting wired controller support, tincore works wonderfully. Im using an official xbox360 control and it controls the ui and a majority of my games. Emulators as well. This is pretty much the only way to use a wired control on this tablet as far as i know. I've tried dozens of methods to no avail. Still trying to get su up and running as well. King root does function but id prefer something im used to. Anyone know of a custom recovery that'd work on this thing???
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I can confirm that kingroot does in fact have an option to unroot. I can also confirm that it is able to reroot after the 1.9.1 update.
Mine updated to that the first time I turned it on and I lost the update file. Can anyone tell a difference before and after the update?
I'm going to do a full stock ROM dump tonight to share. Just in case me or anyone else screws theirs up. I want to install a custom recovery and don't want to take any chances with it. Locked mtk bootloaders are ugly. Especially on these newer chipsets which cannot be unlocked as easily as the old ones.
Btw, before I finally found kingroot I must have tried about thirty different ways to root this thing. I tried several on phone root apps and a bunch of ones which required a pc connection to work and I came up short.
I got partial root with iroot 1.7 something for PC. It installed kingroot and would say that it was granting root to apps but noting actually had root.
Finally I found the latest version of vroot. V1.8 something, it had the same root database number as the earlier iroot which I had, though. Then I installed the pdanet drivers and ran the vroot and it worked! Finally! I spent hours on the stupid thing.
I did try the kingroot (iroot) apk and it couldn't root it and suggested I try the PC version.
What I'm getting at is that possibly fw 1.9.1 is just a security patch that makes it harder to root. Because when I tried the apk it couldn't handle it and I had to use the PC version with pdanet drivers to get it to work. While the apk worked for you on v1.9.0 (mine updated the first time I powered it on).
So if you install the update you might want to watch out for that.
It may be possible to stop the forced ota with fotakill. Just Google the apk and place it in your /system/app folder, then delete it rename the update in your cache folder and restart.
That has always worked for me so far on all of my other Android devices.
Cheers,
-SS
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When I first got the tablet, i let it update then got the kingroot apk, installed it and it rooted. The one i used is in chinese but it had instructions and i followed them to the t. It worked. And the back up of the rom would be greatly appreciated by ALOT of us trust me. Especially me...?
Overall, this is a pretty nice tablet to own. The space alone is worth the price of admission. The specs are decent as well. Quad core, mali gpu, one gb ram, the detachable keyboard, oh i could go on. Im a heavy gamer and this is perfect for me. I have all the power i need to run everything i use. And with a 32 gb sdcard and 32gb internal, thats plenty storage for pretty much anything. I recommend this device to anyone looking for performance on a budget. 10/10
Yes, I'ts very nice. I couldn't find anything else that would even come close to it in that price range. Even used ones....
I was able to edit some config files for mrkdroidtools and got it working properly with mt8127 for the most part. At least now it will create the proper scatter file (in the correct format) for mt8127. Even though it's working properly to create the scatter, you have to use Windows enabler to allow to click the greyed out scatter file button. Before if you did that it would create a scatter in the old format without correctly identifying partition types and even not setting the correct partition sizes in the scatter. Also the chip was identified incorrectly before and now it's not.
All of the mt8127 scatters I have seen use scatter v1.1.2 (not the old format) and now I got it to output that. With proper scatter you can manually pull each partition correctly in spft.
Mtkdroidtools will now partially work for backup. It will pull firmware.info, mounts.info, and phone.info. along with NVRAM and /system only. Can't pull the others because the partitionsions are locked. Even with insecure adb (root ADB) and selinux set to permissive.. You can get old style scatter from firmware.info and mtk studio, but better to let mtkdroidtools pull the correct one.
It will try to make the CWM recovery but fails out. Magic twrp will now create the correct recovery and push it to the phone (with files from spft backup) but the recovery won't work due to the locked loader.
At least I know my backup works now because I was able to reflash the original recovery with it (this is how I screwed up my first one, which ended up going back to Wal-Mart). That first one stopped booting, but it was still recognized by spft. I just had no backup to fix it with. If they rma it, I'm sure it can be reflashed with original firmware and resold.
I will be putting this all in a toolkit and uploading. This can benefit all devices with mt8127, not just us. I also have the latest spft and I even found the checksum.exe in another package somewhere. This can be used to generate the firmware checksums for spft so you don't have to flash with checksum turned off (safer).
Haven't tried to reroot with mtkdroidtools because I think the supersu is pretty old. Don't think it will work properly in lollipop.
I wish there was a way to unlock the bootloader. I poked around in my backup of it and it clearly references files from NVRAM. Files with checksums and lists. I would think that there would be some other tablet sold under a different brand which is unlocked out there
Somewhere which is the same as ours.
Gotta run. I'll try to upload the toolkit after work if there is time. I need to clean up my backup to remove personal files from data before uploading. If it's an emergency and someone needs backup without /data I can provide now. Don't know if it will work though because kingroot resides on data. Perhaps it will work just can't authorize root.
Cheers!
-SimStim
Again, with the new one I got I couldn't root with the latest iRoot from the PC until pdanet was installed on the phone. Then it worked fine.
Without pdanet it will get temp root, then restart and when kingroot automatic root check runs it says no root and will try again and again in a loop.
With pdanet, temp root, reboot, and it's permanent root.
Just in case anyone is trying to root via this method.
Cheers!
-SimStim
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Again, with the new one I got I couldn't root with the latest iRoot from the PC until pdanet was installed on the phone. Then it worked fine.
Without pdanet it will get temp root, then restart and when kingroot automatic root check runs it says no root and will try again and again in a loop.
With pdanet, temp root, reboot, and it's permanent root.
Just in case anyone is trying to root via this method.
Cheers!
-SimStim
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You may be right... The first one i had i let kingoroot on the pc download and install some drivers. And i used pdanet awhile ago for a previous rca tab and never deleted the drivers, so maybe thats why it worked flawlessly the second time. If you have a custom recovery installed, which did you use and how'd you install it?
I tried the "magic" auto-build of CWM and TWRP, but neither one works because of the locked boot loader.
Which also makes me wonder if my backup would work on someone else's tab... The 7" RCA tab on here with the prerooted ROM works because they found another tablet which was the same and had an unlocked bootloader. At least that's what understood from it. I could be wrong though. I didn't read all 35 pages (or however many).
I'll try and double check that
Cheers,
-SimStim
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I tried the "magic" auto-build of CWM and TWRP, but neither one works because of the locked boot loader.
Which also makes me wonder if my backup would work on someone else's tab... The 7" RCA tab on here with the prerooted ROM works because they found another tablet which was the same and had an unlocked bootloader. At least that's what understood from it. I could be wrong though. I didn't read all 35 pages (or however many).
I'll try and double check that
Cheers,
-SimStim
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any progress yet? ive been searching hi and lo for custom recoveries that work to no avail. i want to try and unlock the bootloader but im afraid i may screw somthing up if i cant restore a backup. i guess its a chance im willing to take if it furthers development on this tablet. i honestly want to rip lollipop off of here and run jb 4.2.2. personally i think thats the best version of android yet. at least with funcionality. and the fact you can just plug and play on that version is a plus for me!!! hope you come across something....
may
I'm planning to return mine. I started looking around at tablets in this price range and have decided to buy a Pipo M9S instead. The price is pretty close and it absolutely spanks this device in hardware specs.
I'm somewhat biased, because I have an Android tv device based on the RK3288 and I know how fast it is. The hardware video decoder is the best I've seen yet. Plus it is so nice not to have to deal with the locked bootloader.
I wanted an RK3288 based tablet before, but was put off by the $200-300 price range which I had seen on the Pipo P9 and the P1. Then just recently I found that I could get a p7 for ~150 and an M9S for ~$175, so I've decided that I would much rather go that way(M9S).
I will hang on to my backup of this device in case it will come in handy for anyone else in the future.
Cheers,
-SimStim
simstimstar said:
Yes, I'ts very nice. I couldn't find anything else that would even come close to it in that price range. Even used ones....
I was able to edit some config files for mrkdroidtools and got it working properly with mt8127 for the most part. At least now it will create the proper scatter file (in the correct format) for mt8127. Even though it's working properly to create the scatter, you have to use Windows enabler to allow to click the greyed out scatter file button. Before if you did that it would create a scatter in the old format without correctly identifying partition types and even not setting the correct partition sizes in the scatter. Also the chip was identified incorrectly before and now it's not.
All of the mt8127 scatters I have seen use scatter v1.1.2 (not the old format) and now I got it to output that. With proper scatter you can manually pull each partition correctly in spft.
Mtkdroidtools will now partially work for backup. It will pull firmware.info, mounts.info, and phone.info. along with NVRAM and /system only. Can't pull the others because the partitionsions are locked. Even with insecure adb (root ADB) and selinux set to permissive.. You can get old style scatter from firmware.info and mtk studio, but better to let mtkdroidtools pull the correct one.
It will try to make the CWM recovery but fails out. Magic twrp will now create the correct recovery and push it to the phone (with files from spft backup) but the recovery won't work due to the locked loader.
At least I know my backup works now because I was able to reflash the original recovery with it (this is how I screwed up my first one, which ended up going back to Wal-Mart). That first one stopped booting, but it was still recognized by spft. I just had no backup to fix it with. If they rma it, I'm sure it can be reflashed with original firmware and resold.
I will be putting this all in a toolkit and uploading. This can benefit all devices with mt8127, not just us. I also have the latest spft and I even found the checksum.exe in another package somewhere. This can be used to generate the firmware checksums for spft so you don't have to flash with checksum turned off (safer).
Haven't tried to reroot with mtkdroidtools because I think the supersu is pretty old. Don't think it will work properly in lollipop.
I wish there was a way to unlock the bootloader. I poked around in my backup of it and it clearly references files from NVRAM. Files with checksums and lists. I would think that there would be some other tablet sold under a different brand which is unlocked out there
Somewhere which is the same as ours.
Gotta run. I'll try to upload the toolkit after work if there is time. I need to clean up my backup to remove personal files from data before uploading. If it's an emergency and someone needs backup without /data I can provide now. Don't know if it will work though because kingroot resides on data. Perhaps it will work just can't authorize root.
Cheers!
-SimStim
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if you still have it, can you upload that stock image and the tools you have? or send them to me via email? ive done something terrible and i wish to go back to stock until i figure something else out. if you can do it via email, heres my [email protected]- thanks
How can I contribute
While I haven't had any issues with my DK on v1.9.1, I'm always interested in the latest and greatest Android ROM. I've got my fingers crossed for you on making restore images so you can get another ROM built on this. So, if I can contribute, even if it is paypal'ing $20 to pay toward a second tablet for you to work on, let me know.
Regards,
David
Is anyone working on unlocking the bootloader of this device? Fastboot allows me to see the "press volume up key to unlock" screen using fastboot oem unlock, however it does not respond to volume keys. Being that I got that far could it possibly succeed if it didn't have to prompt for permission?
It's going to be really tough to try and crack it. The RCA 7" tablet here on xda that got an unlocked loader because they found out that there was a Cube branded tablet which was identical, except it had an unlocked boot loader.
RCA is not the actual manufacturer (I forget who is, but cpu-z will tell you I think). Perhaps if someone were to contact the manufacturer and find out which other companies they OEM that tablet hardware to. Then check them out for unlocked bootloaders.
I would be willing to bet that they may not reveal that info so easily, so try looking around for similar hardware.
I found on a benchmarking site that the RCA 10" which doesn't have the keyboard is also the same spec and model number as a model sold by gigabyte. I don't know the status of the bootloader, though. If you flash it you risk bricking your tablet.
MTK is pretty much the opposite of rockchip, who has made their devices nearly brick proof. MTK devices with locked bootloaders are very likely to brick because of the security measures built in, odd and often encrypted filesystems with specific hashes for certain partitions, write protection on the main system partions. It's really a massive pain in the neck. Those are the reasons why I decided to get rid of mine.
It's rooted and someone who doesn't want to build custom ROMs will be perfectly happy with it. Me, I want full access! Really the tablet is pretty nice. Just not if you want custom recovery, kennel, unofficial ROMs, etc.
I'm still looking. It's probably out there somewhere. I'll be sure to post if I see anything.
Cheers,
-SS
How do you know the bootloader is locked? I see walmart has cut the price on them, I haven't seen any rca tablets with bootloader locked.