[Q] Does unlocked bootloader mean I can root after fxz on 4..4? - Droid Ultra Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a droid maxx with an unlocked bootloader (no not dev edition, I don't know how it happened but I'm definitely unlocked and running full TWRP as recovery). Does this mean that even on 4.4 I can fully wipe and/or restore the phone and reroot afterwards? If so, how? Because after an fxz, slapmymoto won't work I'm sure

Having an unlocked non-dev edition is quite a unique situation. I would guess that you could do anything that could be done with a dev edition, but I certainly don't know for sure. And I'm not sure anyone else would know for sure either except the person who unlocked it.
However even a locked phone can restore the factory image, so you should at least be able to avoid a bricking (but maybe lose the unlock in the process).
Good luck...
ken

If your BL is truly unlocked, then yes, on 4.4 you could fully wipe and restore the phone and reroot.
Unlocked BL will let you flash TWRP again via fastboot, and then use that to flash SU.zip to root.

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Difference between unlocking bootloader and rooting

Does unlocking the bootloader give you root?
And in which instances can you flash a custom recovery or customs ROMs?
Rooting means you can install apps that require root access (like titanium backup or setcpu). Unlocked bootloader means you can load any rom, kernel, etc that you like. Unlocked bootloader is usually acquired after rooting.
I'm not sure I totally understand the first reply, so here is my take on it.
Rooting will let you install apps that require root as already stated, but rooting will let you install custom ROMs and do just about any tweak you want. I finally did unlock my bootloader, but the only benefit I gained was being able to change the flash screen, which is the first screen you see when the phone powers on.
I have read that it's harder to brick your phone with a s=off bootloader too.
It is not harder to brick your phone with an unlocked bootloader, just easier to recover from a soft-brick. An unlocked bootloader will allow you to flash using fastboot. So in the case of a corrupt recovery, or something along those lines, you are able to flash it using your computer. It basically allows you to flash different parts of an image separately.
lowandbehold said:
It is not harder to brick your phone with an unlocked bootloader, just easier to recover from a soft-brick.
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That's pretty much what I meant, I just didn't say it right. Thanks for clearing it up.
How to find my phones' bootloader is locked or not? Because i already flashed different custom ROMs and using it.
Regards,
Cjey
If you are rooted with a custom recovery, your bootloader is unlocked.
lowandbehold said:
If you are rooted with a custom recovery, your bootloader is unlocked.
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Thanks buddy,
I want to know that what if i flash ROM for locked bootloaders?
Honestly, I didn't know you can root your phone till today I read a few posts here. So thank you all guys for the input
slight confusion over rooted
i had the .67 generic uk firmware, i downloaded the central europe .73 firmware and used flashtool to flash the ftf file,
all worked fine once i installed the drivers on flash tool,
my confusion is...... alot of people are saying there phone is rooted/bootloader unlocked, am i rite in thinking my phone is rooted and not unlocked,
others have also said they have flashed the .img to the phone which i havent done, is there something ive done wrong ?

[Q] How often do I have to unlock bootloader?

Hi, I have already rooted and unlocked my bootloader then proceeded to flash a custom ROM. I want to try out a different ROM so do I have to re-do the whole root and unlock bootloader process ? I know its just flash one simple zip file in recovery but the reason I ask is my phone got soft bricked last time around.
dannyboy951 said:
Hi, I have already rooted and unlocked my bootloader then proceeded to flash a custom ROM. I want to try out a different ROM so do I have to re-do the whole root and unlock bootloader process ? I know its just flash one simple zip file in recovery but the reason I ask is my phone got soft bricked last time around.
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Once it's unlocked you don't need to do it again unless you intentionally re-lock it or get a new phone.
Also be careful if you somehow get vzw OTA pushed to your phone (sometimes happens without you knowing it) it will lock your bootloader again and when you go to flash it will say something about taking your phone to verizon. Don't panic as most people do all you have to do is unlock again and everything will be fine

[Q] ROM slots?

I can't seem to find answers anywhere. Whoever asks about slots has a locked bootloader.
I have a bootloader unlocked Droid Maxx but I would prefer not to use TWRP so I can receive OTAs without needing to reflash stock recovery. So, I decided to alternatively use Safestrap and so far, it's running very well. Now, what I wanna know is if it's possible to open ROM slots on 4.4.4 and use them. Has Safestrap been revoked of altering /boot, though? I'd like to see if anyone else has tried this yet.

Flashing 33R (or any future OTA) without flashing the bootlodder

Is it possible to pull the 33R OTA package off the OnePlus One site (or anywhere else), and flash the package (via fastboot), on an "exploited" bootloader. In my case, I have an original OnePlus One with the old bootloader, which can be exploited, so that I can do stupid stuff, without unlocking the bootloader. Is it possible to extract the bootloader from a 33R edition (or greater) CM11s ROM, and only flash the /system and other partitions without overwriting my exploited bootloader. (I.e. flash the individual packages via fastboot)
You might ask me why I want to keep the old, unsecure bootloader on my OPO? Cause I don't want to constantly lock/unlock the bootloader after each OTA, and also because I like my OPO that way. (I'm on 25R at the moment)
Why do you think you need to lock/unlock the bootloader for an OTA? That isn't true at all. Just unlock it, leave it unlocked, and you never need to worry about it again.
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timmaaa said:
Why do you think you need to lock/unlock the bootloader for an OTA? That isn't true at all. Just unlock it, leave it unlocked, and you never need to worry about it again.
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The bootloader is there for a 2nd security measure, in case your phone falls into the wrong hands. After you're done rooting and messing about with the phone, you'd relock the bootloader, so if someone tries to hack your phone via root shell, they would have to wipe the phone. For whatever reason, I want to keep my exploitable bootloader, but also update at the same time. AFAIK, the bootloader has no effect on the Android OS, so I was asking whether I could flash every package, except the bootloader, via fastboot. I know keeping the exploitable bootloader is a stupid thing to do, but it's just as stupid as leaving the bootloader unlocked after rooting.
Desolutional said:
The bootloader is there for a 2nd security measure, in case your phone falls into the wrong hands. After you're done rooting and messing about with the phone, you'd relock the bootloader, so if someone tries to hack your phone via root shell, they would have to wipe the phone. For whatever reason, I want to keep my exploitable bootloader, but also update at the same time. AFAIK, the bootloader has no effect on the Android OS, so I was asking whether I could flash every package, except the bootloader, via fastboot. I know keeping the exploitable bootloader is a stupid thing to do, but it's just as stupid as leaving the bootloader unlocked after rooting.
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The chances are if your phone was to be stolen, the thief wouldn't even know a thing about what a bootloader is. As what Tim said, there's no reason to leave your bootloader locked again unlocking.
Take a look into cerberus if you want recovery mode protection for anti theft if you're worried. And no it isn't "stupid" to leaving the bootloader unlocked after rooting, re unlocking would cause the phone to be wiped on your part.
Well I'll give it a shot, and see what happens,
Surely the OTA doesn't need to reflash the bootloader, it's just there as an exploit fix.

[Q] Droid Maxx 4.2.2 sunshine unlock, how to get to 4.4.4?

So i held out taking the otas for a while to avoid losing root and am still on 4.2.2 post camera update. I know, it's sad, but I have root so i haven't been dying to update.
However, i just saw that sunshine will unlock my bootloader, which I'm going to do. What I'm confused about though is once i unlock my bootloader, how do I get to 4.4.4? Can I just revert everything to stock and take all of the otas (and then flash twrp to get root)? I heard that something in one of the otas changed something with the bootloader, so i don't know if taking that would cause problems with an unlocked bootloader or make me lose my unlocked status. Either way, could i just flash a 4.4.4 image directly from 4.2.2? If so where do i get a stock image to flash? Thanks for any help!
Once you have successfully unlocked, make sure you are status 3 unlocked in fastboot.
Once confirmed, you can use the rsd lite, and use the stock firmware from:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/
Next, flash twrp for the ghost from their website.
Lastly if you want root flash supersu.
So can I flash a different OS version from the site that you linked? Or is that just to return to stock in anticipation of flashing TWRP and using that to flash a later android version?
rule of thumb is you cannot downgrade, only upgrade or revert to the same version you are already on
This seemed like the easiest route to a rooted 4.4.4... Unlock bootloader via Sunshine, and proceed as instructed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-ultra/general/unlocked-boot-xt-1080-restore-4-4-4-pre-t2883131
Data remains intact, unlocked bootloader warning on boot logo fixed, and TWRP (or Philz) flashed as recovery. Super easy. Good times.
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I'm in the same situation. I'm currently rooted on the post camera update and held off on the new ota's for a while. I want to do the sunshine unlock. My question is should I do the sunshine unlock, upgrade to the newest 4.4.4 then install twrp to root? This youtube.com/watch?v=_xVyJMtLDPgvideo gives pretty good instructions but I also want to take future OTA's. I understand you won't be able to unless you put the recovery back to stock.
Thanks in advanced
rcji said:
I'm in the same situation. I'm currently rooted on the post camera update and held off on the new ota's for a while. I want to do the sunshine unlock. My question is should I do the sunshine unlock, upgrade to the newest 4.4.4 then install twrp to root? This youtube.com/watch?v=_xVyJMtLDPgvideo gives pretty good instructions but I also want to take future OTA's. I understand you won't be able to unless you put the recovery back to stock.
Thanks in advanced
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Yep true. Can't take OTAs with out stock recovery. But it is easy to flash Stock Recovery then back to TWRP after the OTA. Of course safest option is to flash stock fxz without wiping data before taking OTAs.
Personally have my own recovery and logo.bin script I keep for just this reason. Run RSDlite with the stock software take OTA (if no fxz yet for the OTA) then full bit and setup and finally flash the recovery and logo.bin I use.
Many ways of doing it just find its easier for me this way probably cause this is how I learned from trial and error is all. Probably an easier way though.

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