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What would be your ideal phone? Just list the specs of the phone you think would blow ALL the other phones out of the water and would keep you satisfied for the full 2 years. I'll start :]
1) 4.5" Super Amoled HD display(going edge to edge, removing the Sammy/Verizon logos to make room for more screen)
2) 4g LTE with great modems/radios so we aren't dropping constantly
3) 1800mah battery(minimum! I'd want to be able to get 8 hours of heavy usage without calibrating the battery!)
4) A notification LED... seriously it's not hard!
5) Quad core Tegra 3
6) Full 1080p video recording at 30fps+
7) A nice quality camera, not just megapixels but a camera that doesn't wash the pictures out and just looks nice and lifelike.
8) Front facing camera
9) A good speaker(both the earpiece and the actual speaker). Our Charge has a GREAT speaker, very loud with a nice hump so you can hear the sound even when it's laying on its back.
10) ICS out of the box with great support for bug fixes and future OS releases!
11) Lock button on the side; like the Charge. I can't STAND how so many phones feel the need to put the lock button on the top, it's just so out of the way and annoying to press. Makes locking the phone feel like a chore... lol.
12) 2 models of the same phone, one with a physical keyboard and one without. I personally would always choose the keyboard version(if it has a Droid 3 style keyboard) but some people like the keyboard-less phones for less bulk.
13) ALL CARRIERS! I HAVE A FAMILY PLAN AND WILL NEVER SWITCH TO ANOTHER CARRIER JUST FOR 1 PHONE! AHHHHG! Lol.
14) Have the option to choose either TouchWiz(or the other makers equivalent) or stock(you know, the Gummycharged/Nexus look). Give people who don't mod/root options too!
15) Probably the most important; unlocked bootloader.
I know some of the tech isn't out yet but it will be by the end of this year/early next year. If they make a phone meeting these requirements in all honesty it would probably last me 4 years. A lot of people complained that $300 was too much for a phone but I would gladly pay $500 for this phone.. on contract. Although it will never happen it's kinda fun listing the specs for your ideal phone, give it a try
Alright, i'll throw out some ridiculous stuff...
1. 5" SAMOLED+HD (nothin' but screen...)
2. 4G...without the battery drain or dropouts.
3. 2000 mAh battery
4. Notification LED. Never had one on any of my phones but everyone says its nice to have...
5. Quad Core Tegra 3 1.5+ ghz (smokin...)
6. 1080p HD video at 24fps (most video cameras do this as standard)
7. 10MP camera with real focus and a dual LED flash
8. 8MP FFC (gotta strain that 4G)
9. Ear-rape volume speaker. Seriously, I want to be able to hear this thing over a jackhammer.
10. Ability to come out of sleep by pressing home
11. Ice Cream Sammidge. With FREQUENT updates, not this Samsung once-in-a-blue-moon-if-ever crap
11a. Excellent source.
12. An actual accurate predictive keyboard. Even the GB one is total horse ****, I just use SwiftKey.
13. Verizon only, *****es!
14. AOSP out of the box.
15. Unlocked bootloader.
16. Unlocked bootloader.
17. Unlocked bootloader.
18. Capacitive menu buttons
19. ASSLOAD of dev support!
20. Lightweight and slim, but not cheap feeling. Gorilla glass doesn't need to be said as it's becoming the standard.
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by capacitive buttons you mean the kind that are on the Bionic? Those are gross! I hate the "touch" buttons, I think the only thing that should be touch responsive is the "touch" screen! I think everything else should be physical.
You guys forgot one thing:
-Sandwich maker
It was implied... lol
Updates shouldn't b a problem for long... Samsung hired steve kondit(maybe spelled wrong) a.k.a cyanogen... Old news but still pumped..
1. Fascinate design with steel scratch proof backing,
4.3 in samoled HD something like 1900x1080p resolution DD
NO TOUCHWIZ... Maybe a nexus 4 vzw would b sweet
Quad core 1.5ghz hummingbird or tegra
A nokia 13mp rear camera
Ide b happy with a 3.2mp ffc
5 gen wireless internet something like 100mb/s lmao
Wireless battery charging(phone that never needs plugged in)
8gb of ram 64gb internal memory with a way to from anywhere view and transfer files from home cpu
And might as well add a 3d interactive projection display above screen..
And then I woke up
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And then I woke up
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lol'd irl.
Imagine a galaxy phone preloaded with cm7 outta the box
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Y'all are forgetting the Teleportation mode. No, seriously, as long as it texts, makes/receives calls, and can browse the web, I don't really mind the rest.
My HTC Wildfire S runs MagicOS (Unicorn Hair, Rainbow Extract and Pixie Dust).
I don't know about my ideal phone, but my next phone will have:
HD samoled plus min 4.3"
Quad core
Same size or smaller than Charge.
Better battery than Charge
1 g ram
Faster camera
Honestly I'm pretty happy with the charge. Faster cpu would be nice for complex web pages. Screen is sweet, but a bit more res would be cool. Better camera is always good since it is the camera I use the most.
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elucid said:
I don't know about my ideal phone, but my next phone will have:
HD samoled plus min 4.3"
Quad core
Same size or smaller than Charge.
Better battery than Charge
1 g ram
Faster camera
Honestly I'm pretty happy with the charge. Faster cpu would be nice for complex web pages. Screen is sweet, but a bit more res would be cool. Better camera is always good since it is the camera I use the most.
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Honestly the best part about the Charge is the unlocked bootloader, sweet lord I can never flash enough files! It just keeps the phone so fresh in terms of looks AND features!
4.5" Super HD screen, 240 fps, tougher than gorilla glass.
32gb on board with option of sd card
2000 mah battery with a motion charging system (charges when it moves) easy swap battery (for the super long trips)
a form factor that would allow a multitude of aftermarket accessories
All with a solid network that is 99.9999999% reliable with speeds of 100down/50up
12 megapixel camera with manual adjustable shutter
support for all formats of music and video
fm radio, gps, all the usual stuff
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4.5" Super HD screen, 240 fps, tougher than gorilla glass.
32gb on board with option of sd card
2000 mah battery with a motion charging system (charges when it moves) easy swap battery (for the super long trips)
a form factor that would allow a multitude of aftermarket accessories
All with a solid network that is 99.9999999% reliable with speeds of 100down/50up
12 megapixel camera with manual adjustable shutter
support for all formats of music and video
fm radio, gps, all the usual stuff
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Tougher than Gorilla Glass ? Bring on the King-Kong Glass !
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The things you guys are posting are way too far fetched. If that's the case I want a 5 inch 3200x1800 screen.
Here are some feasible things on my ideal phone.
1. 4.5 inch SAMOLED+ display with no real buttons on the phone. They'd be on screen like honeycomb tablets and no samsung/verizon branding on the front of the phone.
2. Dual core 1.4ghz processor
3. 1gb ram
4. Quality 8mp shooter with 2mp front facer
5. Notification LED
6. Global 4g LTE support
7. Super loud speakers
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Sleek69 said:
The things you guys are posting are way too far fetched. If that's the case I want a 5 inch 3200x1800 screen.
Here are some feasible things on my ideal phone.
1. 4.5 inch SAMOLED+ display with no real buttons on the phone. They'd be on screen like honeycomb tablets and no samsung/verizon branding on the front of the phone.
2. Dual core 1.4ghz processor
3. 1gb ram
4. Quality 8mp shooter with 2mp front facer
5. Notification LED
6. Global 4g LTE support
7. Super loud speakers
etc
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Were allowed to dream right... Godzilla glass
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1) quad core(tegra 3) cpu
2) atleast ps3 like GPU (shader 4.0+opengl 2.0)
3) gorilla glass + anti smudge +non reflective
4) AH-IPS HD display
5) bluetooth 3.0
6) Wi-Fi direct
7) MHL mobile hd video link
8) LPDDR3
9) USB host on-board for gaming controllers
10) Support for 802.22n wi-fi + tethering
11) Tiny pico projector
12) Only screen front panel with front cam and speaker
13) Water resistant
14) Sim and sharp edge candybar body
15) Gesture recognition (omap 5)
16) onboard class 10 rom atleast 16GB
wilsondonakanty07 said:
1) quad core(tegra 3) cpu
2) atleast ps3 like GPU (shader 4.0+opengl 2.0)
3) gorilla glass + anti smudge +non reflective
4) AH-IPS HD display
5) bluetooth 3.0
6) Wi-Fi direct
7) MHL mobile hd video link
8) LPDDR3
9) USB host on-board for gaming controllers
10) Support for 802.22n wi-fi + tethering
11) Tiny pico projector
12) Only screen front panel with front cam and speaker
13) Water resistant
14) Sim and sharp edge candybar body
15) Gesture recognition (omap 5)
16) onboard class 10 rom atleast 16GB
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I literally don't know what half of those things are.... D:
I want
4.3" 720p SAMOLED SCREEN
Dual Core CPU, preferably Exynos or Tegra 2
Body of GS2 with materials of the Droid X
Unlocked Bootloader
Comes with completely stock ICS
10MP Instant Shutter Camera
4G LTE With a better radio (better reception, better battery)
Battery life of a moto phone. with a 1900 mAH battery
Unlocked Bootloader
No Bloatware
Timely updates and bugfixes, not like the 2 small updates, maybe a big one then forget the device
3mp ffc camera that can be used full quality
Unlocked Bootloader
I just pretty much describes the Nexus Prime.
Bring on the Nexus
wilsondonakanty07 said:
1) quad core(tegra 3) cpu
2) atleast ps3 like GPU (shader 4.0+opengl 2.0)
3) gorilla glass + anti smudge +non reflective
4) AH-IPS HD display
5) bluetooth 3.0
6) Wi-Fi direct
7) MHL mobile hd video link
8) LPDDR3
9) USB host on-board for gaming controllers
10) Support for 802.22n wi-fi + tethering
11) Tiny pico projector
12) Only screen front panel with front cam and speaker
13) Water resistant
14) Sim and sharp edge candybar body
15) Gesture recognition (omap 5)
16) onboard class 10 rom atleast 16GB
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I got a hard-on reading this.
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rami98 said:
I want
4.3" 720p SAMOLED SCREEN
Dual Core CPU, preferably Exynos or Tegra 2
Body of GS2 with materials of the Droid X
Unlocked Bootloader
Comes with completely stock ICS
10MP Instant Shutter Camera
4G LTE With a better radio (better reception, better battery)
Battery life of a moto phone. with a 1900 mAH battery
Unlocked Bootloader
No Bloatware
Timely updates and bugfixes, not like the 2 small updates, maybe a big one then forget the device
3mp ffc camera that can be used full quality
Unlocked Bootloader
I just pretty much describes the Nexus Prime.
Bring on the Nexus
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Seriously that unlocked bootloader is the most important thing a phone can have, no amount of specs will make me buy a phone if I can't hack the **** out of it.
I've noticed that quite frankly...the camera ****ing sucks especially in low light areas like bars, I'm fairly sure I've taken better quality pictures with my old k800i! Are there any mods out there at all that can help fix this?
littledude565 said:
I've noticed that quite frankly...the camera ****ing sucks especially in low light areas like bars, I'm fairly sure I've taken better quality pictures with my old k800i! Are there any mods out there at all that can help fix this?
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I've noticed this too....
I know you can edit the media_profiles.xml so i thought if i could find one and luckily here is one for our very own desire s.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1280558
Why not give it a try and see. Also, are you running Cyanogenmod or sense? Sense usually takes much better pictures than cyanogenmod.
Not too much you can do about the hardware limitations, especially in low light conditions like bars.
What I have relied on in the past is using PicSay Pro to correct any photos that I would like to keep that havent come out well. It is very good at adjusting exposure levels, brightness, contrast and colour saturation to make under-exposed shots look much better. Also add a 5% blur to help with grainy pics.
Agree that sense cameras outperform the cm and aosp ones.
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Thanks for the responses! Also, I'm running a sense rom (endiymon or something that)
I think its due to the type of lens HTC are using. This is what they have vastly improved in their newer models (f.24 lens if I'm right?)
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olyloh6696 said:
I think its due to the type of lens HTC are using. This is what they have vastly improved in their newer models (f.24 lens if I'm right?)
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HTC has actually added a separate processing core for the camera alone. So a dual-core phone will actually have three cores. The ImageSense chip will not only offload the duties from the regular processor to keep the phone and operating system fast and stable. It will leave the camera completely uninterrupted to take quality, impressive photos. This also allows super-fast shooting possible with a 0.7-second shot time and a 0.2-second autofocus.
Combine that with the 8 megapixel camera with a f/2.0 aperture, 28mm lens, BSI Sensors, and smart LED flash with five levels of brightness. The f/2.0 aperture allows for 40% more brightness and light capture than their previous f/2.4 lenses that others are still trying to complete with today.
Source : http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-x-photos-show-off-new-imagesense-camera-technology-20120302/
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HTC has actually added a separate processing core for the camera alone. So a dual-core phone will actually have three cores. The ImageSense chip will not only offload the duties from the regular processor to keep the phone and operating system fast and stable. It will leave the camera completely uninterrupted to take quality, impressive photos. This also allows super-fast shooting possible with a 0.7-second shot time and a 0.2-second autofocus.
Combine that with the 8 megapixel camera with a f/2.0 aperture, 28mm lens, BSI Sensors, and smart LED flash with five levels of brightness. The f/2.0 aperture allows for 40% more brightness and light capture than their previous f/2.4 lenses that others are still trying to complete with today.
Source : http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-x-photos-show-off-new-imagesense-camera-technology-20120302/
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And will these improvements concern also HTC One S ? Or just One X, because in the source you have stated, there is mentioned just One X, if i am right.
EDIT: Sorry, i have just noticed, there is mentioned that HTC one S will also have these improvements.
Damn it when I chose to buy this Desire S and didn't wait for the new models! :-(
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Something I found interesting over at the Sensation forums..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533238
Wondering if this could somehow be nodded and implemented on our phone...
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Well, yess. I have noticed that even the old HTC Desire had better image quality than HTC Desire S. To be honest, Desire S image quality is awful, it's pixelate and dirty. Nevermind am I using stock rom or MIUI. The old Desire had so much better picture quality, of course video quality on new Desire S is way better.
So what the heck, HTC gave us worse camera sensor that before we had?
Any chances to improve camera picture quality?
Lowered quality shots in the dark plague all cameras. Shots on my Desire S are quite ok. If you take the time to do more than just "point-&-shoot", the image quality isn't nearly as awful as you claim (conversely, don't spend an hour "view-finding"). Not to mention pro-quality shots I've taken. And I'm just an average guy with a little more than average skill. But it's still just a phone.
The K-series of Sony Ericsson are camera-phones in the real sense of the word camera. My previous K850i would put many a camera to shame (in its time, it did!). If the pictures matter that much, most cameras are actually cheaper than the phones we tote.
Forwox said:
Well, yess. I have noticed that even the old HTC Desire had better image quality than HTC Desire S. To be honest, Desire S image quality is awful, it's pixelate and dirty. Nevermind am I using stock rom or MIUI. The old Desire had so much better picture quality, of course video quality on new Desire S is way better.
So what the heck, HTC gave us worse camera sensor that before we had?
Any chances to improve camera picture quality?
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Since you have both phones, could you take reference pictures?
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Since you have both phones, could you take reference pictures?
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Hemorrdroids Desire S review has comparison shots between the S and original..
The S, is definitely much much better at colour reproduction + clarity....
Dunno what that other guy has... Why would HTC downgrade the camera module?
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I'm using an ICS rom and that seems to have improved the quality of pictures majorly...Or maybe it's because I've been outdoors more with better lighting...Either way, everyone get a damn ICS rom
Thanx
littledude565 said:
I'm using an ICS rom and that seems to have improved the quality of pictures majorly...Or maybe it's because I've been outdoors more with better lighting...Either way, everyone get a damn ICS rom
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This is not true for Sense 4.0 ROMs.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions &
Read the Forum Rules Ref Posting
Thanks ✟
Moving to Q&A
So i was wondering if someone can tell me how much is the picture quality difference between cm9 camera and the stock sense 4 camera. Can you improve cm9 camera further somehow?
Only thing stopping me to use cm9/aokp/paranoid is camera. Would like your review.
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jags_the1 said:
So i was wondering if someone can tell me how much is the picture quality difference between cm9 camera and the stock sense 4 camera. Can you improve cm9 camera further somehow?
Only thing stopping me to use cm9/aokp/paranoid is camera. Would like your review.
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It's really all preference, I mean yes sense camera is better, but your best bet wod be to backup current rom and give one a try to see for yourself.
We could give you opinions all day, but until you try it for yourself you will never truly know.
Plus the benefits of aosp roms outweigh the camera for most.
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Camera is a pretty big deal for me. Of the AOSP based ROMs, I only tried AOKP, and only for a short time. But from my experience, the picture quality itself is actually not that different, if at all. For picture quality, the software doesn't make as much difference as the sensor and the optics, which of course is all there in CM9 as well as Sense.
What is different/lacking, is that the autofocus takes longer on AOSP (and the near zero "shutter lag" on this phone is to me one of the best features). Plus, the interface on the Sense camera is far superior IMO (more functional layout). Also, I believe AOSP does not have a widescreen mode that takes a picture that fills the whole screen (at full resolution). One of the modes has an aspect ratio that fills the screen, but I think at a lower resolution.
Also, related to camera, the camcorder is still pretty much busted (gives garbled output almost half the time). If you use the camcorder and significant amount, this is pretty much a deal breaker. But hopefully that will get sorted out soon, now that kernel source is released.
redpoint73 said:
Camera is a pretty big deal for me. Of the AOSP based ROMs, I only tried AOKP, and only for a short time. But from my experience, the picture quality itself is actually not that different, if at all. For picture quality, the software doesn't make as much difference as the sensor and the optics, which of course is all there in CM9 as well as Sense.
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This is incorrect. The sensor and optics only record light intensity. How that gets converted into color is a combination of hardware encoded algorithms and software code. This is one of the reasons Nikon cameras running on Sony sensors practically always produce truer colors and lower noise signals that Sony cameras using the very same sensor. There are numerous examples of this, but Google ot
GroovyGeek said:
This is incorrect. The sensor and optics only record light intensity. How that gets converted into color is a combination of hardware encoded algorithms and software code. This is one of the reasons Nikon cameras running on Sony sensors practically always produce truer colors and lower noise signals that Sony cameras using the very same sensor. There are numerous examples of this, but Google ot
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Thanks for the more technical point of view. At least as far as CM/AOSP based ROMs versus Sense, or versus 3rd party photo apps (which people often claim as "better" pic quality), I've never seen much of a difference in resulting picture quality for the 2 Android phones I've owned. Possibly the hardware coded algorithms you mention play a big role regardless of what is on the software side? Also, while I can believe that software plays some role, I still don't believe that optics are not also important. The quality of the optics (lens) obviously plays a big role on any camera. Given, the lens is tiny on a camera phone, but it still must play a major role.
Related to the quality difference between the two cameras: the main thing I noticed that bugs me the most is that the Sense camera uses the full screen for the photo aspect ratio while the AOSP camera cuts off about 1/4 of the frame with it's giant gray button area.
The full screen camera just felt really good, and then looking though the photos I took they would all perfectly fit the screen.
I can't say I really understand this choice by Google. Does anyone know of a way to force a different aspect ratio? Or perhaps recommend a camera app that will fill the screen?
Does anyone else feel this way or have an argument in favor of the AOSP camera?
Okay I had to go though this for an event and wanted the best picture quality I had to flash 4.5clean +HQ mod. vs cm9 with the best setting and ICS+ below is the comparison.
CM9 1st then 4.5 CleanROm
How ever I use cm9 as my DD and cleanrom if I need o use the Cam
The sensor for the camera in the HoX has. 4:3 aspect ratio. So the pictures that cm9 takes actually use the whole sensor. The sense rooms actually take the 4:3 aspect and cut off the top and bottom to make it 16:9 and then it appears full screen. Cm9 actually gives you a picture with "more detail" in it.
As for the HQ mod for sense cameras, it increases your video quality but decreases still cam, so if you want the best sense cam, don't use HQ.
As for straight quality, they are basically the same. HTC just applies a couple more adjustments to the pic than cm9, but I would rather have the original pic and edit it myself cause I can do better than what HTC auto adjusts
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The sensor for the camera in the HoX has. 4:3 aspect ratio. So the pictures that cm9 takes actually use the whole sensor. The sense rooms actually take the 4:3 aspect and cut off the top and bottom to make it 16:9 and then it appears full screen. Cm9 actually gives you a picture with "more detail" in it.
As for the HQ mod for sense cameras, it increases your video quality but decreases still cam, so if you want the best sense cam, don't use HQ.
As for straight quality, they are basically the same. HTC just applies a couple more adjustments to the pic than cm9, but I would rather have the original pic and edit it myself cause I can do better than what HTC auto adjusts
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The 4.5 cam is posted in the apps forum. Significant improvement over both 4.0 stock and HQ
Hey there,
I am looking for a new phone, kinda fed up with my previous Galaxy Wonder which was bought considering budget limits, but now I'm on to buying a new phone, for myself and for my mother.
For me, performance is the most important thing, a phone that I can keep for a couple of years without headaches, and for my mother Camera is the most important thing- she wants quality pictures with sharp images. I guess a phone which has both would be the better choice. I have come to the conclusion that just looking at MP doesn't tell you how good the camera really is (my 5 MP Carl Zeiss Nokia was way better than my friends 8 MP Sony Ericsson at the time, or it seems iPhones take very sharp pictures). So what phones do you recommend we buy (Do you guys consider iPhones and Microsoft phones like Nokia as well?)
Thankyou
Samsung Galaxy Note 4, has an incredible camera, crystal clear photo's
Note4fan said:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4, has an incredible camera, crystal clear photo's
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Galaxy S5 is great too. 16MP stills and 1080p/30fps video. GSM Arena ranked it second and first for stills and video respectively. Also a good all around phone, if you don't care about using the stock Android UI!
Have a look at the Galaxy K Zoom. It's designed as a camera that you can also use as a phone, not the 'phone with a camera'.
Alternatively, the Note 4 has a good sensor, too. And it is the most powerful phone available on the market. You can keep using that without any headaches for at least 3-4 years as high-end, and mid-end for another 2-4 after that.
The most important thing to look at for camera quality is the sensor size. The bigger the sensor, the better the photographs.
The best camera phone are the Nokia Lumia, if you want Microsoft OS, or the Xperia z3 if you want android; the latest has pretty performance and battery life, but I'm sorry I don't know nothing about Nokia because I don't like the OS let me know what will you buy :thumbup:
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Note 4 is HUGE, i don't call those things phones tbh! and it is very expensive.
What about Xperia Z3 and Galaxy S5? Any opinions on those?
ShadowLea said:
Galaxy K Zoom. It's designed as a camera that you can also use as a phone, not the 'phone with a camera'.
The most important thing to look at for camera quality is the sensor size. The bigger the sensor, the better the photographs.
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Great advise! How can I find the sensor size for a phone? Cuz I didn't see such a thing on GSM Arena Phone Specs.
K Zoom seems a fine phone, but low CPU and lots of complaints about dust getting into the phone and other issues by its users.
flywheels said:
Galaxy S5 is great too. 16MP stills and 1080p/30fps video. GSM Arena ranked it second and first for stills and video respectively. Also a good all around phone, if you don't care about using the stock Android UI!
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Well we don't mind the current UI we have now, is there anything that annoying about S5's UI that I should worry about?
goldendye said:
Great advise! How can I find the sensor size for a phone? Cuz I didn't see such a thing on GSM Arena Phone Specs.
K Zoom seems a fine phone, but low CPU and lots of complaints about dust getting into the phone and other issues by its users.
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Right, I'd forgotten that the K Zoom only comes in the Exynos variant. Sorry about that.
Sometimes GSMArena does list the sensor size, It's under Camera > Features if they do. (For instance on the HTC M8 (1/3'' sensor size).) In some cases they list the sensor size in the review of the phone.
Sadly, it mostly comes down to Googling " [phone name] Sensor size".
The one in the Note 4 and S5 are 1/2.6”. The Note 4 also has Optical Image Stabilisation, which adds a clear advantage in terms of image quality.
HTC M8 and iPhone 5S are 1/3".
With sensors under 1", the lower the number behind the /, the better. (So 2.6 is better than 3). Admittedly sensor size isn't everything, but it's the deciding factor when it comes to sharpness, particularly in less than full-light conditions.
I have an explanation on sensor importance *somewhere*, let me dig around for it.. Edit: Ah, here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50953511&postcount=6
I remember one Lumia had a very good camera
honestly i always think iphone cam is not bad. but if if its android htc definitely have a decent cam
best detailing in note 4
best color reproduction and dynamic range in iphone 6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/best-camera-smartphone-comparisons-t2901826
ShadowLea said:
Sadly, it mostly comes down to Googling " [phone name] Sensor size".
The one in the Note 4 and S5 are 1/2.6”. The Note 4 also has Optical Image Stabilisation, which adds a clear advantage in terms of image quality.
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Aha, so according to his:
Z3: 1/2.3 and , 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
s5: 1/2.6 and, 5312 x 2988 pixels, 16 MP
K Zoom (as the ideal camera): 1/2.3, 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
Clearly, Z3 is the best of three. Its camera is better than S5, and the same as K Zoom. it is smaller in size, less weight (16 grams), 0.7 inch smaller Screen (which is actually a positive feature for me), better Androind version, also will upgrade to 5.0, has radio, fast charging, none of the nonsense apps of Samsung which i really hate, better performance rate
But S5 has a one third better screen quality, Corning Gorilla Glass (I'm not sure if this is better than IPS), microUSB 3.0 (I don't think that's really important), dual video recording (maybe an app can compensate for this), better battery, and it seems it is much more efficient (21 hrs talk time compared to 12 on z3!!), better contrast ratio (i dont care)
Same chipset, same CPU, same GPU, but the endurance rate on z3 is 101h compared to 72h on S5, I don't know what that is.
I think I have chosen my phone , except the battery worries me.
goldendye said:
Aha, so according to his:
Z3: 1/2.3 and , 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
s5: 1/2.6 and, 5312 x 2988 pixels, 16 MP
K Zoom (as the ideal camera): 1/2.3, 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
Clearly, Z3 is the best of three. Its camera is better than S5, and the same as K Zoom. it is smaller in size, less weight (16 grams), 0.7 inch smaller Screen (which is actually a positive feature for me), better Androind version, also will upgrade to 5.0, has radio, fast charging, none of the nonsense apps of Samsung which i really hate, better performance rate
But S5 has a one third better screen quality, Corning Gorilla Glass (I'm not sure if this is better than IPS), microUSB 3.0 (I don't think that's really important), dual video recording (maybe an app can compensate for this), better battery, and it seems it is much more efficient (21 hrs talk time compared to 12 on z3!!), better contrast ratio (i dont care)
Same chipset, same CPU, same GPU, but the endurance rate on z3 is 101h compared to 72h on S5, I don't know what that is.
I think I have chosen my phone , except the battery worries me.
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Are you looking at the Z3 or the Z3 Compact? From the specs i'd say the Compact, correct?
The reason the S5 has a better batterylife is because of the AMOLED screen. AMOLED has the advantage that black pixels are off as opposed to dark grey, meaning they don't drain power. (AMOLED is also more colour intensive and crisper.)
Contrast ratio is simply because of the darkest grey vs turned off pixels. AMOLED is the only type of screen capable of true black. Oh and it has a higher readability in direct sunlight.
IPS is a type of display, not a type of glass. Corning Gorrila Glass (3) is very tough, but I don't know what's on the Z3 or how it holds out in tests. You can always look up droptests on Youtube.
MicroUSB3 isn't important, as the MTP protocol slows down transfer speed right down to the USB2 values anyway. Samsung dropped USB3 on newer devices.
The S5 doesn't have a radio, no. That bothers a great many of us, myself included.
The Snapdragon 801 is the part that has the fast charging. All S801 devices have it.
Touchwiz is a waste of time and space, on that I fully agree. (They laughed at me when I told them so, though.) Fortunately they've changed the principle a bit so that it doesn't come with 100 bloatware anymore, but there's still some of it installed. Mainly, Touchwiz. (ugh!)
The S5 has KNOX, which you can't not trip whilst flashing custom roms. It voids your warranty.
In terms of security the S5 has a fingerprint scanner.
There's one other thing to the S5 I should mention, and that's the disgustingly ugly UI colour scheme. Which you can't change.
the tl:dr version:
- The S5 screen is AMOLED, which turns black pixels off. That doubles the battery life.
- IPS is a type of LCD display, (The S5 has AMOLED) Gorrilla Glass is a type of treated scratch resistent glass.
- All Snapdragon 801 devices have Fast Charging.
- USB3 is a waste, MTP doesn't allow USB3 speed.
- The Z3 has a radio.
- S5 has KNOX.(negative thing.)
Simply put the S5 has a better, brighter and crisper screen with better battery life; the Z3 is more compact, has a better camera and an FM radio.
You can also read these two and compare the photo's for a decent camera comparison.
Z3 Compact: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-review-1135p8.php
S5: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5-review-1064p9.php
Is the fact that Z3 Compact has non-removable battery a fact to worry about?
Obviously, Lumia has better camera. But if you want it with better performance and battery life. Z3 would be a better choice.
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Obviously, Lumia has better camera. But if you want it with better performance and battery life. Z3 would be a better choice.
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I don't think it does, because it's a 10 MP camera with 1/3.4" sensor size. Although yes, it is Carl Zeiss.
goldendye said:
Hey there,
I am looking for a new phone, kinda fed up with my previous Galaxy Wonder which was bought considering budget limits, but now I'm on to buying a new phone, for myself and for my mother.
For me, performance is the most important thing, a phone that I can keep for a couple of years without headaches, and for my mother Camera is the most important thing- she wants quality pictures with sharp images. I guess a phone which has both would be the better choice. I have come to the conclusion that just looking at MP doesn't tell you how good the camera really is (my 5 MP Carl Zeiss Nokia was way better than my friends 8 MP Sony Ericsson at the time, or it seems iPhones take very sharp pictures). So what phones do you recommend we buy (Do you guys consider iPhones and Microsoft phones like Nokia as well?)
Thankyou
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CAMERA
A $100-200 dedicated camera takes much better pictures than any smartphone ever could (especially with 10x+ optical zoom). Your mum would be better off with such a camera in addition to a smartphone. At any rate, all flagships have "good enough" cameras with not a lot to choose between them. Mid-range and budget models often sacrifice the camera to meet their price points (one reason buying used high-end flagships is an option to consider).
OS
For some people iPhones/WindowsPhones/Blackberry/etc are taken into consideration particularly for the convenience of having the manufacturer control everything so you don't have to. For others, the somewhat open [source] nature of Android is paramount - it permits options that the other platforms actively prevent e.g. custom roms, privacy controls, customizations.
PERFORMANCE
You say performance is the most important thing. What level of performance?. I'll bet that a Samsung Galaxy S2 (yes S2...not S3, S4 or S5) is plenty fast enough for most people today and the Moto G is faster than that. So, is a Moto G performant enough for you? Or is it more like Nexus 5? Perhaps you need Note 4's level of performance? What activities requires the most performance on your phone currently and for the next couple of years?
Personally, I rate water/dust resistance highly (Xperia Acro S, Xperia Z/Z1/Z2/Z3/M2 Aqua, Galaxy S5, HTC Butterfly2). A 720p screen should be minimum now that the 1st gen Moto G exists. I prefer both a microsd slot and a removable battery. I would certainly want both if paying for a high-end device.
The Xperia Z3/Z3C, HTC Butterfly2, Samsung S5, Nexus 5/6 are all contenders if flagship devices are what you want. If you want to pay less, the Moto G and used flagships (Galaxy S3/S3/Note3, Xperia Z1/Z2, Nexus 5) are good options.
THe sensor is the heart of a modern digital camera and esp twice so in a mobile phone since other variables such as F stop, zoom factor etc are for the most - frozen.
There are a a lot of budget Chinese phones out there that pose impressive specs , in terms of hosting SONY sensors and 13 20 MP cameras. Look these specs up other places and you find that for the same phone & model & series ...the sensor brand changed from Sony to some Omnixxx ( which is a far cheaper sensor ) so did the true MP resolution. Just as CPU - Z measures phone hardware - is there any software out there that can read your camera sensor brand reliably as well as access true MP in the camera
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THe sensor is the heart of a modern digital camera and esp twice so in a mobile phone since other variables such as F stop, zoom factor etc are for the most - frozen.
There are a a lot of budget Chinese phones out there that pose impressive specs , in terms of hosting SONY sensors and 13 20 MP cameras. Look these specs up other places and you find that for the same phone & model & series ...the sensor brand changed from Sony to some Omnixxx ( which is a far cheaper sensor ) so did the true MP resolution. Just as CPU - Z measures phone hardware - is there any software out there that can read your camera sensor brand reliably as well as access true MP in the camera
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I have been wondering the same for months, there is not way to tell for sure the real resolution of the camera other than comparing your self, What i did using a cheap polaroid phone is take one photo for every resolution , then use a photo comparison software and compare side by side, there is a point where you cant tell difference between the two pictures then that's the max resolution i figured it out the polaroid phone when from 5mp to 1.2 mp max resolution for photos. for video is worst, it went from 1080p advertised to real 800x600.
to find the video resolution i did the following:
1. record a video using all available resolution using Open camera or any other you can choose resolution from.
2. use video to jpg free software , to extract the frames for each video in different folder.
3. use imagemagick to calculate median blending output image.
now use the same procedure as the photo described before you will find the max real resolution for video.
regards.