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hi guys
i bought a nexus s but the order was canceled and now i have to wait a couple of weeks for a refund
and then this showed up
gizmodo(DOT)com/5750750/leak-htc-pyramid-sounds-like-a-big-un-with-dual+core-processor-and-43+inch-qhd-display
now when i wanted to buy a phone the most important thing to me is " future proof" in terms of updates from google , Cyanogenmod etc
since this thing " might " be a dual core it will be supported for a very long time in terms of keeping up with new OSes
anyway im sure this phone will be CDMA so how long does a HTC phone take until they make one in a GSM flavor ?
The device is on TMobile, so it will be GSM, AFAIK.
As for support.. It is HTC, so it will be supported on XDA-dev, I have no doubt in my mind And I don't think HTC will go the Moto-way of getting in the way of rooting and such.
I hope the bands are compatible with Rogers Canada!!
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The device is on TMobile, so it will be GSM, AFAIK.
As for support.. It is HTC, so it will be supported on XDA-dev, I have no doubt in my mind And I don't think HTC will go the Moto-way of getting in the way of rooting and such.
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a perfect reply with all the info i need
1.will be GSM
2.can be rooted etc
3.will be supported from various groups etc
thanks a bunch
The sourced article has all the juicy details:
http://androidandme.com/2011/02/unc...pyramid-superphone-coming-to-t-mobile-by-may/
I'm all set to get this, assuming it has MicroSD. (Or better .) I'm a little disappointed that the HSPA+ is limited to 14 Mbps downloads. I hope the T-Mobile USA version can at minimum take full advantage of their 21Mbps download HSPA+. Even better if it can handle future speeds like 41Mbps too .
It has enough features to be a nice upgrade from my HD2. We'll see if the Pyramid turns out to be as flexible. I may wait a month or more after it's release, to see if it can be easily rooted and custom ROMs made for it. If HTC makes it too hard to hack, I may pass. (It's got to at least be hackable for custom Android ROMs.)
The Androidandme article mentions the Pyramid will probably get to other carriers in time. Good to see that maybe a US carrier will get a sweet new HTC phone first for a change . We had to wait months for the HD2 while folks elsewhere enjoyed it first .
Pyramid = Winner!
im sure it will be eisely hackable
correct me if im wrong but HTC never made it hard for us
unlike moto
qwerty warrior said:
im sure it will be eisely hackable
correct me if im wrong but HTC never made it hard for us
unlike moto
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I agree
I have moto and HTC and i promess you there's no comparison!!
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its been a while since i read about moto but didnt they have eFUSE on the mileston how did u put gingerbread on it ?
Listen this is incredible!!!!
This is the first release of ginger just ported by cynamo people nadalback/kadalban and many more people from this amazing forum
So.... whow is it possible if we didn' t get real froyo yet and we already are using ginger!!!! O.O
THIS MATES ARE JUST AMAZING!!!!!
SENT FROM MY MILESTONE POWERED BY GINGERBREAD
sdtaddey said:
Listen this is incredible!!!!
This is the first release of ginger just ported by cynamo people nadalback/kadalban and many more people from this amazing forum
So.... whow is it possible if we didn' t get real froyo yet and we already are using ginger!!!! O.O
THIS MATES ARE JUST AMAZING!!!!!
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Guys,
How's T-mobile with throttling? What are their caps? Im thinking of leaving Sprint if they don't release something worth getting soon.
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Guys,
How's T-mobile with throttling? What are their caps? Im thinking of leaving Sprint if they don't release something worth getting soon.
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from what i read
T-MOBILE
you get 3G speeds
and after you reach 5GB they stated
"No overages! (After 5 GB, data speeds may be reduced)"
how much its reduced you have to check your self
and one more thing you can share your internet to devices around you
This would make me think about leaving sprint for this.
killabee44 said:
Guys,
How's T-mobile with throttling? What are their caps? Im thinking of leaving Sprint if they don't release something worth getting soon.
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qwerty warrior said:
from what i read
T-MOBILE
you get 3G speeds
and after you reach 5GB they stated
"No overages! (After 5 GB, data speeds may be reduced)"
how much its reduced you have to check your self
and one more thing you can share your internet to devices around you
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I am with T-Mobile USA now and left Sprint back in March of 2010 for the T-Mobile HTC HD2.
The data works like this, you get up to 5GB/month, just like Sprint. But once you reach the limit, T-Mobile "throttles" your speed rather than totally turning it off as Sprint does. The throttling is not something I've ever experienced, but I've heard it's so slow that it makes the data practically useless till the month is over and they reset your allowance of data automatically that next month. I've also heard, that people who were throttled were able to go to a different town and get fast data speeds again within the same month. So the throttling might be location based for a certain cell tower or something.
Also, T-Mobile does not "support" tethering unless you pay a special tethering fee, which is $15/month. That means, you get no support from T-Mobile in trying to do it unless you pay, but there are plenty of people who don't pay the fee and successfully tether. If you're going to tether without paying that fee, you'd want to be very light on your usage, so you don't get busted. Similar to with Sprint.
Qwerty warrior, the plan you linked to is not the cell phone data plan, that's the plan for laptop USB sticks. The "contract" cell phone plans are listed here. T-Mobile does have non-contract cell phone plans, that are cheaper than the contract plans, but they don't display anything about those on the web site, you'd have to actually speak with a T-Mobile rep about those. T-Mobile tries hard to avoid anyone buying the non-contract plans, but they do exists.
And in T-Mobile 3G, you can do simultaneous voice + data, which on Sprint you can only do in "4G". With T-Mobile, you can do it on both 3G and "4G".
I also recall with Sprint there was an issue with conferencing multiple callers via a device, I don't know if that's still an issue with Sprint, but I know it's not an issue at all with T-Mobile.
And one debated issue, that I know is a fact. GSM devices don't burn through battery as quickly as CDMA devices. You'll get better bettery life on T-Mobile than the same device on Sprint's network. (Of course you can't use the exact '"same" device on both networks, but I'm saying the same model of device.)
oops wrong forum
They admit their data could be flawed, but phoneArena.com has tossed up a full spec sheet .
qwerty warrior said:
from what i read
T-MOBILE
you get 3G speeds
and after you reach 5GB they stated
"No overages! (After 5 GB, data speeds may be reduced)"
how much its reduced you have to check your self
and one more thing you can share your internet to devices around you
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
I am with T-Mobile USA now and left Sprint back in March of 2010 for the T-Mobile HTC HD2.
The data works like this, you get up to 5GB/month, just like Sprint. But once you reach the limit, T-Mobile "throttles" your speed rather than totally turning it off as Sprint does. The throttling is not something I've ever experienced, but I've heard it's so slow that it makes the data practically useless till the month is over and they reset your allowance of data automatically that next month. I've also heard, that people who were throttled were able to go to a different town and get fast data speeds again within the same month. So the throttling might be location based for a certain cell tower or something.
Also, T-Mobile does not "support" tethering unless you pay a special tethering fee, which is $15/month. That means, you get no support from T-Mobile in trying to do it unless you pay, but there are plenty of people who don't pay the fee and successfully tether. If you're going to tether without paying that fee, you'd want to be very light on your usage, so you don't get busted. Similar to with Sprint.
Qwerty warrior, the plan you linked to is not the cell phone data plan, that's the plan for laptop USB sticks. The "contract" cell phone plans are listed here. T-Mobile does have non-contract cell phone plans, that are cheaper than the contract plans, but they don't display anything about those on the web site, you'd have to actually speak with a T-Mobile rep about those. T-Mobile tries hard to avoid anyone buying the non-contract plans, but they do exists.
And in T-Mobile 3G, you can do simultaneous voice + data, which on Sprint you can only do in "4G". With T-Mobile, you can do it on both 3G and "4G".
I also recall with Sprint there was an issue with conferencing multiple callers via a device, I don't know if that's still an issue with Sprint, but I know it's not an issue at all with T-Mobile.
And one debated issue, that I know is a fact. GSM devices don't burn through battery as quickly as CDMA devices. You'll get better bettery life on T-Mobile than the same device on Sprint's network. (Of course you can't use the exact '"same" device on both networks, but I'm saying the same model of device.)
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Thanks for the info guys,
So, after researching I see that they throttle anyone going over 5gb a month. Sprint may advertise a cap, but they never enforce it. I have gone over many times but have never received a letter.
Tmobile is definitely stricter than Sprint with their data..
Let's see what Sprint releases in the near future. Im up for an upgrade and my contract is completely up in October. Ill pay the penalty if I have to since it's pro-rated at ten dollars a month. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
I want it.
killabee44 said:
Thanks for the info guys,
So, after researching I see that they throttle anyone going over 5gb a month. Sprint may advertise a cap, but they never enforce it. I have gone over many times but have never received a letter.
Tmobile is definitely stricter than Sprint with their data..
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Oh, Sprint does enforce theirs. They may not have gotten you (yet), but there are plenty of people, even a personal friend of mine who were busted by Sprint. Had their data shut down, got a letter and didn't get it back till later.
And with T-Mobile, there are likewise people who claim they didn't get busted yet.
Bottom line is, they all enforce and just because they didn't catch you yet don't assume they never will.
The Pyramid will be my next device is the rumored specs are true.
I posted this in the general Q&A but got no opinions. Maybe you guys can lend some unbiased help.
So I've gotten myself into a pickle. Let me start this by saying that staying on AT&T is not an option for personal reasons.
Current situation: HTC Inspire 4G with an unlimited data plan on AT&T.
Living in NY metro area with great coverage.
Got the green light from AT&T to cancel my contract with no ETF if I want.
Hopes & Dreams: Have a great phone on a future-proof network (LTE for example) while guaranteeing myself unlimited data.
Obviously I have a lot to weigh here:
AT&T's acquisition of T-Mobile.
I feel like this is pure bad news if I were to stay with AT&T or switch to T-Mobile. If I stay AT&T, prices are sure to go up, and sure I keep my unlimited data, but the network is going nowhere fast. 4G is bull****. 3.5G at best. All in all, the real innovation and envelope pushing just isn't happening here.
Verizon's LTE & Tiered Data.
From what I hear, the speeds are gorgeous. I checked and I'm in a hot coverage area. But I also hear indoor coverage sucks, and the LTE > 3G handoff is sloppy and leads to service drops.
Then there's the tiered data. I'm sure if I were to wait too long, I'll miss the boat on unlimited LTE data. Hence the reason I feel I need to make a move soon.
Sprint.
Short & sweet: Is the 4G good? Phone selection ramping up any time soon? What's hot now? The Pre 3 looks amazing, but if it'll be on Verizon, I'm not sure what Sprint may have to lure me in.
MetroPCS.
Just kidding
Anyway, any and all input is appreciated. I'm just not sure where to go and how.
Keep in mind I need to do the carrier change by May 4th.
Thanks!
Sprint 4g is about as fast as my current att phone 300kb/s to 600kb/s at best but indoor penetration well there is none
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Go with the new metro phones my friend gets 12kbps download . Blazing fast!
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Go with the new metro phones my friend gets 12kbps download . Blazing fast!
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I hope you meant mbps.
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Haha nope kb
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That is quite a predicament.
I don't know too much, but I'll see if anything I do know helps:
My friend is on Sprint 4G (with the Evo) and his speeds are about what mine are (avg ~2.1 mbps down) in the middle of Indiana, so that says something.
I'm really not a fan of Verizon. Sure their service coverage is better but customer service is just as bad as AT&T and you can't use data and voice at the same time (something I depend on)
Just my input, hope it helps.
Go with Verizon you can use data and voice at the same time at least on the Thunderbolt
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I have three friends who purchased the Thunderbolts the day they came out. Two love it, the other hated it and returned it within a week because the battery sucked and it was "buggy". The one that returned it is longtime android users so it wasn't android that was the problem. I personally think the phone is awesome, and you can get a goofy looking extended battery so if the only concern is battery life it isn't really a problem. I am in San Diego and the down and up speeds are literally in the 20mb range every time they speed test those things, makes the 3mb down on the Inspire look pretty shabby.
If I did not have 4 phones all with data plans at varying stages of renewal on my contract I would probably make the switch.
My only question is how in the heck did you get out of your contract?!?!?!
Funny that I see this. I'm more or less in a similar situation. I recently renewed from an out-of-contract state and got the Inspire, but I'm still within my return window.
First, let me say that there's no such thing as a "future-proof" network. Remember that commercial with Ozzy and Justin Bieber? It's only a matter of time before someone comes up with a 5G, then a 6G... and so on.
Furthermore, I just found out there is no industry standard for what constitutes a 'G' anyway. So it gets down to throughput, and how much of it you need for what you do. After that is price and hardware, not necessarily in that order.
I think it all depends on what you need the most. I agree that Verizon's speeds are screaming where you have good signal. But I read an analysis which said that on average AT&T's network is faster in the majority of areas. IOW, if you travel outsize a Verizon 'hot zone', their speed is on a par with, and in some cases slower than, AT&T. So where Verizon has them beat in 'hot spots', overall in daily use for those of us who travel around (or live in a more rural area), AT&T might be the better choice.
Don't kid yourself. Verizon isn't exactly looking to rock the boat pushing bleeding edge technology either. they're not inclined to invest money that they don't have to, or create more customer service issues than they already have. So that "future proof" network you're looking for won't be found at Verizon any more than you'll find it at AT&T.
I have no comment about Sprint or MPCS other than the fact that having traveled all over the country for business over the years, AT&T had the most consistent service for voice (which is my primary need) than even Verizon. Besides, it seems you already answered your own question regarding Sprint or MPCS. If you plan on venturing outside an urbanized inner-city area, you're pretty much screwed. After all... hellooooo... it's METRO pcs, not Pocono pcs.
Let me share with you what I'm inclined to do.
I love the Inspire, but when I saw the HTC Sensation is coming to Tmo, I had a moment of pause (as you did) and thought to return it and wait. But as you noted, with AT&T buying Tmo, there's a lot of 'if' on that plan to jump ship, since there's no saying when the two companies merge that I won't be forced into another phone. Or that the Sensation will get 4G speeds when the networks converge. Or that the bootloader will be cracked so I can install an unbranded ROM. Or that you will be able to use the Tmo phone on the merged network... lots of variables there.
If there's a reason why you just can't stay with AT&T and the Inspire, then I'd say Verizon is your next best choice. But given the Thunderbolt is nearly identical to the Inspire, and Verizon is more expensive for buying the phone ($175 vs. $50), it's your choice on whether the enhanced (but not always faster in all cases and in all places) data speed is worthwhile.
And of course we all need to remember that a contract is only 24 months. It goes quick. Not like it's a tattoo where you're living with it for the rest of your life.
Hope this helps...
Guys, I am doing research on data usage per month. I used to have the unlimited data plan until I downgraded to 200MB when I used blackberry. Now I am using infuse and I cant go back to the unlimited data plan. I am wondering if 2GB is enough for a month.
Following are things I do with my phone daily:
8am-5pm - at work with no wifi, I would like to stream slacker radio or pandora the entire 8 hours. streaming 2-3 10 minutes video. checking social networking site and always online on Meebo.
after 5pm - I use wifi all the way.
I do not know how many MB each 10 minutes video and how many MB for streaming music from radio. I know checking social networking like twitter and facebook and Meebo would not be as large as streaming media from internet.
Any thought?
Thanks.
you should take a look at this post.
Unlimited Data For Anyone! (AT&T) [IPHONE 2G REQUIRED]
I am a noob. could you guide me step by step thru the process? I greatly appreciate it.
well to start your going to need an iphone 2G the one with the silve back and black bottom.
your going to pop in your sim card and activate it thru itunes. master reset the phone if you have too.
then once you check on line and your on the iphone 2G unlimited, call and have them change you over to the 4g personal unlimtied for 30 bucks. and your set.
so any iphone 2g will do the job? would ATT question me? If I understand it right:
1. get any iphone 2g
2. master reset it (why master reset?)
3. plug my CURRENT sim card to iphone 2g
4. download itunes and install it
5. activate the iphone 2g with my the itunes
6. and I am lost...
When I make a call to ATT, would the sim card needs to be put on the Infuse or keep it in Iphone 2g?
seems you got it right. and a master reset so that the phone knows it needs to be activated.
when you call att simply say that you need to get switched over to unlimited 4g because you have the wrong plan on your line.
btw has your sim card ever been activated with a iphone before?
you should really read the first post. in that link everything you need to know is there.
I had activated iphone 3GS 1.5years ago. I upgraded my plan for 3GS and sold it and changed my plan to blackberry 9700 in the 2 weeks after I upgraded (more exact, novermber 2009). I used blackberry data plan since then til may 15th 2015. would it be a problem?
Does master reset really necessary?
i guess you havent read the post...
IT HAS TO BE A IPHONE 2G
if your sim card has been activated with an iphone before it wont work
and yes it would be neccessary. how else would you get the phone to recognize that it hasnt been activated? master reset.
"Hey guys just upgraded to Atrix liking it so far! Never had unlimited data before but couldn't justify having it without unlimited data so been researching the current loophole and just wanted to share what I found out.
1) You must have an iPhone 2G, and a sim card that has never been registered to an iPhone 2G before
2) Hard reset the iphone, put in your simcard, and register the iPhone 2G in iTunes. You will be asked to confirm you agree to $20/month unlimited 2g data + 200 text messages.
3) Check online account to see if plan went through, or call 611 and confirm.
4) Find a CSR that will change your Iphone 2g plan to unlimited smartphone personal. I tried over the phone multiple times and they kept on saying they couldn't do it since the unlimited plan didn't exist before June 2010. I was about to give up but went to a retail location and the guy did it on his computer.
5) Enjoy your unlimited data!
NOTE: Whatever you do DO NOT let them change your data plan off the iPhone data plan. If you lose that plan you need a new simcard and to start over. I think I may have had more difficulties cause I am on a business account, but it still worked!"
Ah.. I see.. I will be able to do it then since the I never register this sim card with IPHONE 2G. So, just let the sim card be in the iphone until all the process completed and switch to the Infuse, right?
i had a rather compliacted process. but yes i left the sim card in the iphone 2g until i got my atrix at the time. then just called in from that phone to have it changed over to the 4G personal unlimited
I have to use AT&T because no other carrier gives reception where I work. A 2GB per month cap for a "4G" smartphone is a F* joke. But, the 4GB (tethering) plan is $5.00/month more than the 2GB plan with 2GB of overage fees. Can't win on AT&T as a consumer. I'd be on Sprint if I could.
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/artic...ome_iphone_owners_unlimited_data_option_again
this was the offical word on unlimited back in january. if you had an iphone and are still on the same phone number/contract then you should be able to get it back.
i personally think the att plans are fair. the overages are fair. and sprint cant compete with att data speeds, or coverage. also sprint phones throttle data. they advertise that they dont but they mean the network doesnt, the baseband firmware does. att wont throttle data.
sprint may be cheaper but att is much better imho.
Dani897 said:
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/artic...ome_iphone_owners_unlimited_data_option_again
this was the offical word on unlimited back in january. if you had an iphone and are still on the same phone number/contract then you should be able to get it back.
i personally think the att plans are fair. the overages are fair. and sprint cant compete with att data speeds, or coverage. also sprint phones throttle data. they advertise that they dont but they mean the network doesnt, the baseband firmware does. att wont throttle data.
sprint may be cheaper but att is much better imho.
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wow way to justify the crappy plan. I wonder how fast people would hit the pathetic 2gb limit when they launch LTE phones, its gonna be a joke, they better have 10gb limit for those plans, lol. No way people stay under 2gb with a 4g LTE phone, I cant wait to find out how many customers they loose because of this, if they don't raise their data limits for the LTE plans.
ha i thought the same when i was about to get the 2 GB cap.
then i found the thread on XDA on how to get unlimited again.
im currently going on close to 4gb
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wow way to justify the crappy plan. I wonder how fast people would hit the pathetic 2gb limit when they launch LTE phones, its gonna be a joke, they better have 10gb limit for those plans, lol. No way people stay under 2gb with a 4g LTE phone, I cant wait to find out how many customers they loose because of this, if they don't raise their data limits for the LTE plans.
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how would faster transfer equal more data usage? i only use 500mb a month, i use it only as needed and i connect to public wifi when available. it's not that hard to manage data usage, also data usage is controlled by the user, having faster data doent mean that the phone downloads more stuff. only if you are a real internet junky should it make a bit of difference.
whatever if it's not enough for you i can accept that but i still think it is fair. there are many other things att is good for. if i went with t-mobile or sprint i would never have service, if i went with verizon my data speeds would be around 100kbs in my town. att doesnt throttle, overages are fair, try going over on data with an older verizon contract, they charge per Mb. att would need to impliment throttling to handle unlimited data plans and they arent willing to do that.
if you need 5-10 gb a month then go on sprint or verizon and tell me what your data speed is after you have downloaded 3gb that month. this is a phone, not a home internet replacement. i can deal with 2gb
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how would faster transfer equal more data usage? i only use 500mb a month, i use it only as needed and i connect to public wifi when available. it's not that hard to manage data usage, also data usage is controlled by the user, having faster data doent mean that the phone downloads more stuff. only if you are a real internet junky should it make a bit of difference.
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It can actually be pretty difficult. AT&T doesn't give you the tools to do it real time and they can't even monitor it accurately according to a recent lawsuit.
Faster data = more incentive to USE it and therefore go over. The fact is, small overages come in when data speeds are increasing and becoming very useful. It's stifling and disgusting to insist a 200mb data plan for $15 is reasonable. It's ****.
there are many other things att is good for.
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Yeah....... their reliable network? Lack of dropped calls? Excellent customer service? Great treatment of android devices? Cheap prices? oh wait, no.
att would need to impliment throttling to handle unlimited data plans and they arent willing to do that.
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I thought you said speed didn't affect usage?
if you need 5-10 gb a month then go on sprint or verizon and tell me what your data speed is after you have downloaded 3gb that month. this is a phone, not a home internet replacement. i can deal with 2gb
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My data usage this month so far:
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My speed tethered to my laptop:
It's safe to say that the grass is in fact much much much greener and more comfortable on verizon. You have no chance of touching those speeds in the first place. We pay the same for data, my plan is $62/month after employee discount (FAN type thing), I never drop calls. This is consistent (and honestly a bit low, must be the ALPHA gingerbread radio i'm using).
You're also quite mistaken about verizon's data policies as you can see.
You're defending a company with terrible practices and terrible service and I don't think I can understand why.
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It can actually be pretty difficult. AT&T doesn't give you the tools to do it real time and they can't even monitor it accurately according to a recent lawsuit.
Faster data = more incentive to USE it and therefore go over. The fact is, small overages come in when data speeds are increasing and becoming very useful. It's stifling and disgusting to insist a 200mb data plan for $15 is reasonable. It's ****.
Yeah....... their reliable network? Lack of dropped calls? Excellent customer service? Great treatment of android devices? Cheap prices? oh wait, no.
actually yes since they replaced the radios on the towers in my area i havent had a dropped call, i have had nothing but good experience with the customer service, there is no unusual treatment of android devices, verizon has been know to change search engines as well, sprint and verizon charge to tether, sprint and verizon have more useless bloat, if you really look at what you get you see they are all comaparble. att hate is a bit misguided. and my bill is no more than it would be on sprint and the customer service is better. maybe t-mobile would be great if they had better coverage but they dont.
I thought you said speed didn't affect usage?
it does when it is soo slow that it pisses you off and you give up. not the case on 3g without throttling.
My data usage this month so far:
My speed tethered to my laptop:
it is great to see you are a heavy user, but this does not represent a cross section of america, maybe att is too limited for you, im not saying it is not. but you dont represent the majority of att's customers.
It's safe to say that the grass is in fact much much much greener and more comfortable on verizon. You have no chance of touching those speeds in the first place. We pay the same for data, my plan is $62/month after employee discount (FAN type thing), I never drop calls. This is consistent (and honestly a bit low, must be the ALPHA gingerbread radio i'm using).
You're also quite mistaken about verizon's data policies as you can see.
You're defending a company with terrible practices and terrible service and I don't think I can understand why.
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verizon has ****ty data coverage in my area. i have thought about switching many times. i understand lte is superior. but i cant get it on any network except metro pcs in the ghetto of newburg. also they needed to mirror att's plans because of there reputation for being over priced. they didnt want to scare off the att customers coming over. the insurance is much more expensive and they lie in their advertising. 15% vetrans discount my ass, they advertise it with no stipulations and when you go to the store they say you need a government email, have to apply online and it can be 8%-15%. i told att about verizons discount and they gave me a military discount i wasn't even entitled to get with no pain or argument. just a photo copy of my government id card that clearly indicated i was a vetran not an active duty member.
if verizon is better for you then go for it, i dont care but with all the att hate i feel people havent looked at all the facts. sometimes att is better in one area of another. i can get 7mbps on att. on verizon i see under 1mbps on my friends phones, there is no contest there being that the billing is identical for people still on the old iphone plans
They will have to pry my unlimited data plan from my cold dead hands.
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Anyone here using T-Mobile? I have been using Aio Wireless, but since I generally go over 2GB I have been using the PRO option. It's $70 a month and you get only 7GB of usable data(then they throttle you so bad you can't even read an email). If i switch to T-Mobile pre-paid account(which are identical to post-paid now that they killed all contracts) I can get Unlimited LTE for the same price. So my question isn't about the network which I know varies by town, it's about the carrier in general. Do they throttle? Cap ya? On AIO for example I am hard-capped at well below what post-paid AT&T people can get. How are they on OTAs? I don't know how that works exactly with a Nexus device on a post-paid carrier I have always used an MVNO. Any insight as to how they operate and do business would be very helpful!
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Well maybe.
Check the tmobile threads
There's plenty of t-mobile threads. Pick your poison.
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if you get the completely unlimited high speed data package($70 unlimited everything and high speed data) then there is no throttling data speed. i have two weeks left on my cycle
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simms22 said:
if you get the completely unlimited high speed data package($70 unlimited everything and high speed data) then there is no throttling data speed. i have two weeks left on my cycle
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AWESOME that's exactly what I needed to know! They just turned on LTE here in my town recently so I'll find out about the coverage. The map is telling me its wall-to-wall city wide with no blindspots. At any rate it won't hurt to check them out for a month now that I know the speeds aren't throttled and they don't yell about hotspot usage.
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AWESOME that's exactly what I needed to know! They just turned on LTE here in my town recently so I'll find out about the coverage. The map is telling me its wall-to-wall city wide with no blindspots. At any rate it won't hurt to check them out for a month now that I know the speeds aren't throttled and they don't yell about hotspot usage.
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Go prepaid for a month. I checked their coverage map and it said the same thing about my area. Bought the N5 from them as soon as it came in. Haven't seen LTE once at my house. I called plenty of times, but no progress.
What's this about them killing contracts? I signed a 2 year plan that I'm currently trying to get out of because their service is garbage, despite what their coverage map says.
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if you get the completely unlimited high speed data package($70 unlimited everything and high speed data) then there is no throttling data speed. i have two weeks left on my cycle
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Holy moly, 17 gigabytes! What do you do on your phone that's so data-intensive?
RoyJ said:
Go prepaid for a month. I checked their coverage map and it said the same thing about my area. Bought the N5 from them as soon as it came in. Haven't seen LTE once at my house. I called plenty of times, but no progress.
What's this about them killing contracts? I signed a 2 year plan that I'm currently trying to get out of because their service is garbage, despite what their coverage map says.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57576023-94/t-mobile-kills-off-the-wireless-contract/
As I understand it, T-Mobile contracts no longer exist. But if you got into one prior to this change, you are probably stuck.
RoyJ said:
Go prepaid for a month. I checked their coverage map and it said the same thing about my area. Bought the N5 from them as soon as it came in. Haven't seen LTE once at my house. I called plenty of times, but no progress.
What's this about them killing contracts? I signed a 2 year plan that I'm currently trying to get out of because their service is garbage, despite what their coverage map says.
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call them and change your plan to one of the no contract plans, theyll gladly change you. then a month later, go to another provider. i was 7 months into a two year contract when i called and changed my plan to a no contract plan several months ago, and ive changed it several times since. now im just all unlimited.
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BirchBarlow said:
Holy moly, 17 gigabytes! What do you do on your phone that's so data-intensive?
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stream music(high quality), stream and download an occasion movie, download rom/kernel uodates often, hang out on xda, download rom/kernel updates for my nexus 4/nexus 7, keep my apps updated(2gb games too), keep my two other nexii apps updated.. i can go on. basically i use my nexus the way its meant to be used. and on top of that, i have 25-40mbps download/23mbps+ upload lte speeds. thats why all data plans should be unlimited, so people could use their devices how they were meant to be used.
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call them and change your plan to one of the no contract plans, theyll gladly change you. then a month later, go to another provider. i was 7 months into a two year contract when i called and changed my plan to a no contract plan several months ago, and ive changed it several times since. now im just all unlimited.
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stream music(high quality), stream and download an occasion movie, download rom/kernel uodates often, hang out on xda, download rom/kernel updates for my nexus 4/nexus 7, keep my apps updated(2gb games too), keep my two other nexii apps updated.. i can go on. basically i use my nexus the way its meant to be used. and on top of that, i have 25-40mbps download/23mbps+ upload lte speeds. thats why all data plans should be unlimited, so people could use their devices how they were meant to be used.
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That story makes me want to do business with them. I know they had little choice in the matter, but their desperation for our business has forced them to be so nice and easy to deal with that comparing them to Big Red or Ole Blue there is just no comparison anymore. I find myself pulling for them, and who would have thought I'd ever pull for a wireless company?
Landara said:
Anyone here using T-Mobile? ... If i switch to T-Mobile pre-paid account(which are identical to post-paid now that they killed all contracts) I can get Unlimited LTE for the same price...Do they throttle? Cap ya? ...
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While the plans are the same for pre and post paid, they are a little different in that post paid plans will take preference when there is network congestion. The T-Mobile web site tells you that. I found the download speeds were generally the same for both plans but the upload speeds were a lot faster on postpaid. The upload test on pre paid would start fast then quickly switch to a much slower speed. Not a big deal for me as I think most apps benefit from faster download speeds. No caps as far as I know.
OK guys so I'm currently with Verizon and my bill for 3 lines usually is $236 including insurance for 2 phone (8bucks each) 10 gigs and a constant $5 dollar late fee (cell phone bill falls on the same check as rent) now with sprint offering to slash 50% off any competitors price I'm really leaning towards sprints note 5. (Mainly for root purposes and a much cheaper bill) Now the only thing holding me back is "reliability" I live in Wildomar Ca, pretty much Temecula Ca, and the coverage map on sprints website says it's good coverage I'd rather have some input from a real person who uses their network around my area. Does anyone here live near this area who can shed some light on their experience with sprints network in or near this area?
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I'm not trusting the accuracy of the sprint coverage map at all.
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Here is my 1 bar daily average
I think this site has a much more accurate map of the sprint network.
The speeds I'm averaging are slower than dial up from 1993 both up and down. But if i pop in a t-mobile sim it's faster than my t-mobile note 3. So i blame sprint network not the phone.
Sprints speeds are meh
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No chance you are even in San Diego County. That screenshots so hot it must have been burning a hole in your pocket for almost 4 hours and 20 minutes
I pay about $250 on 5 lines after Employee discount. I also have a legacy plan. Customer Service sucks. Techs are idiots. However, the actual service is quite excellent. Band 41 LTE is nice when I land on a tower.
I find Sprint Customer service to be ok. Service has gotten better. There are places where the other three carriers will get sata but Sprint doesn't have data. There is the flip side too where Sprint has data and Verizon or T-Mobile doesnt.
If they are offering the 50% off, might be worth a try. You can always quit Sprint if you don't like it.
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No chance you are even in San Diego County. That screenshots so hot it must have been burning a hole in your pocket for almost 4 hours and 20 minutes
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Im in Phoenix and thats band 41
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Sprints speeds are meh
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Almost 100mbps up and 14mbps down is meh on a cell network? Yeah, it's no Google Fiber, but 100mbps for a cell network is better than "meh".
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Almost 100mbps up and 14mbps down is meh on a cell network? Yeah, it's no Google Fiber, but 100mbps for a cell network is better than "meh".
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You missed the facetiousness of my post
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Great replies, but did any of you guys read the last half of the original post?
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You missed the facetiousness of my post
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My bad
But to OP, in terms of reliability, Sprint is changing their return/exchange policy for new lines of service to 28 days. That means you have 28 days AFTER the day of the sale to decide whether or not if you want to stay with sprint with your plan 50% off (note that these are only CURRENT plans from TMo/VZW/ATT). You do have the option of picking which plan you want from that carrier (ie: if you want more data, you're not locked into your current data rate plan), which has changed since Cut Your Rate Plan in Half - where you only had the option of your current rate plan or Sprint's plans.
I would see if you can get an response from someone locally. Cause they would give you a better response if its worth it or not. And even before you leave i would see what Verizon is willing to offer before you leave them completely. They might work in some good deals for you. Last thing you want to do is come to sprint and suffer that horror they call data. I barely pull down 5gb in my area. Planning to switch to ATT soon.
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OK guys so I'm currently with Verizon and my bill for 3 lines usually is $236 including insurance for 2 phone (8bucks each) 10 gigs and a constant $5 dollar late fee (cell phone bill falls on the same check as rent) now with sprint offering to slash 50% off any competitors price I'm really leaning towards sprints note 5. (Mainly for root purposes and a much cheaper bill) Now the only thing holding me back is "reliability" I live in Wildomar Ca, pretty much Temecula Ca, and the coverage map on sprints website says it's good coverage I'd rather have some input from a real person who uses their network around my area. Does anyone here live near this area who can shed some light on their experience with sprints network in or near this area?
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I'm going to go with hell no I hate sprint but it might be different in your area here the phones wont roam I lose data connectivity while driving because the phone wont hand off to the next tower!!!!
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I'm going to go with hell no I hate sprint but it might be different in your area here the phones wont roam I lose data connectivity while driving because the phone wont hand off to the next tower!!!!
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That sounds like a very case by case situation. I never have a problem roaming, I only have a problem with wifi calling - standard handoff not working like it should sometimes.