[Q] CWM backups and TWRP - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This may sound stupid, but will CWM backup work via TWRP? I have stock ROM backed up on CWM, and I wanna switch to TWRP. Similar threads seem to imply that it's a no, but these date to over a year ago even - has anything changed?
Also, CWM site allows you to download .img for CWM Touch - wasn't it paid after buying ROM Manager premium? Can I flash it regardless and update it from the site, every time there's an update? (since Touch is supposedly paid and I don't know if the Manager will allow me to push the update, when available)

Last I checked...No
EDIT: our signatures look similar. What a coincidence. lol

They can't restore each other's backups. Only Philz can restore both
You can (and should) use touch without rom manager
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U can give a try TWRP :thumbup::thumbup:
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TWRP is a much better recovery IMHO. It's much more user friendly than CWM.
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[Q] How do I back up my Rogers SGS2 ROM

Got the new i727 from Rogers. First time Android user, come from the BB world.
Want to back up my stock ROM. Installed paid version of Rom Toolbox. Went to the Manage ROM section, and it told me I had to have ROM Manager.
Downloaded the free version of ROM manager, and it told me I had to have ClockworkMod installed, and asked if I wanted to install it.
Said YES, and it took me to a group of phones, not the SGS2 LTE. So I cancelled.
So three questions:
1. When I buy Rom Toolbox, why do I have to then get ROM Manager?
2. What is ClockworkMod?
3. Which phone do I select that will work on my Rogers Samsung Galaxy S2, and will that finally allow me to back up my stock ROM.
Thanks
Harry Fine
I'm not familiar with ROM Toolbox, nor do I know why you would use it. I'm not much of a fan of ROM Manager, either, but it does work. Install it, and select the T-Mobile SGS2 to get CWM installed. You can then take a Nandroid backup.
That said, backups of untouched stock ROMs are much less needed when there's already an Odin TAR out.
What does it mean to "take a nandroid" backup?
Got it. Installed CWM and did the ROM backup, now have a Nandroid backup, also copied to PC. I'm assuming if I've done this correctly, I can now re-install the stock ROM if I had to.
Once I have a nandroid backup that is known to be good, is there any situation (other than hardware) that would prevent me from un-bricking my phone by simply installing a known good ROM?
As long as you have a backup and are able to access CWM...flash away
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And where is CWM? Is it on the ROM itself, or on the boot sector? If the ROM is bad, or boot sector becomes corrupted, how do you access CWM?
And even if you can't access CWM - in other words, if you can't get past the Samsung logo - you can always return to stock with Odin.
basically as long as you can boot to either download mode or recovery you're safe.
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Recovery options

Ok hi everyone, pretty new to the Inspire, although not to Androids and ROM flashing. Actually I'm a bit of an addict. Anyway I'm successfully rooted, so far have run CM7, MIUI, and currently Revolution. So here are the questions I have come up with so far, and haven't seen this asked as I've been poking through the threads past couple of weeks.
1. ROM Manager, it was a must on my prior phones, and I have the premium version, but is it usable on the Inspire? I noticed right away that the Ace Hack kit automagically installed Clockwork recovery, is it OK to update CWM from within ROM Manager? Is there anything in there for us? My most recent phone was the Droid Charge, and you would seriously mess up your phone if you did that. They don't seem to have CWM official support.
2. I noticed that my latest ROM, Revolution, brought with it a different recovery 4EXT (or is it EXT4?) ASSUMING that the answer to question 1 is yes, can I flash CWM over it? From ROM Manager? Not that this flavor of recovery seems to have anything wrong with it, but most ROMS specifically mention "flash in CWM" so I don't want to mess things up from the get go the next time I flash something.
Appreciate any input folks
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Quick and dirty answer-Yes.
Rom manager is very useful on the inspire. Also using the premium version, and it's the only way to fly. And as to the 4EXT recovery, it changes how the files are saved. Wouldn't worry about flashing it, as it works just as well as the stock version of recovery.
One thing I like about the 4EXT Recovery Control app is that it lets you verify the md5 checksum of your rom backups. I'm not sure if the premium version of ROM Manager does that, but the free version didn't. Or if it did, I never saw that option. Before I started using 4EXT, there were a couple of times where I went to restore a backup and CWM would say the MD5 didn't match. Having already wiped data before attempting to restore, I was stuck flashing a fresh ROM and starting from scratch. Now with 4EXT Recovery Control I can check the md5 of my backup before I boot into recovery and be sure that the restore will work.

[Q] First Time Root Help Please?

Hello everyone,
I just bought a Verizon Galaxy S3 and I am in the process of rooting it. Im kinda freaking out because things really arent going that well for me. So far what I've done is root and unlock bootloader. Here is where the problem starts. When I try to reboot into CWM recovery it just boots me into the normal android recovery. Is this normal? every video I have watched shows people manually rebooting straight into CWM. The only way I can get it to work is if I go into EZ recovery and press "Flash" then "Reboot Into Recovery" buttons.
My second area of confusion is regarding the IMEI backup. Is this something everyone does when flashing roms on this phone? I am very confused as to what I'm supposed to do. Do I use the adb or download a terminal app from the play store? If someone could clarify that would be great !
Sorry if these questions are pathetic but this is my first time doing this and it's a learning experience I geuss. Here are the links to the guides I used for what I have done so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852255
Thanks
I recently saw someone have a problem getting custom recovery persist, and another member pointed out a step you needed to do to get it to stick. I'll see if I can locate that post and add it to this post.
As far as IMEI goes, you only need to back it up once, and then you are good to go. Perform step a followed by step b in the backup thread.
apacseven said:
I recently saw someone have a problem getting custom recovery persist, and another member pointed out a step you needed to do to get it to stick. I'll see if I can locate that post and add it to this post.
As far as IMEI goes, you only need to back it up once, and then you are good to go. Perform step a followed by step b in the backup thread.
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Alright thanks, so for most people once they flash it once it should stay every time they reboot into recovery? I have probably the noobiest question of all time, what does flashing CWM recovery even do? is it like flashing a rom where it just gets baked in to the OS permanently? Or does it actually provide a backup of data because I thought thats what nandroids were for.
Havent found exactly what I was recalling as far as the recovery problem, but I found something in a thread below this that makes me think maybe your bootloader wasnt unlocked properly. What version (if any) of ez recovery did you use?
Also, flashing CWM (ideally, at least) replaces the stock recovery with the clockworkmod recovery. Then, when you boot into CWM, that is where you make a backup (nandroid) of your current ROM. Once you have backups made you can quickly switch between ROMs by restoring the nandroids.
I hope I understood your question correctly and also answered it properly.
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Havent found exactly what I was recalling as far as the recovery problem, but I found something in a thread below this that makes me think maybe your bootloader wasnt unlocked properly. What version (if any) of ez recovery did you use?
Also, flashing CWM (ideally, at least) replaces the stock recovery with the clockworkmod recovery. Then, when you boot into CWM, that is where you make a backup (nandroid) of your current ROM. Once you have backups made you can quickly switch between ROMs by restoring the nandroids.
I hope I understood your question correctly and also answered it properly.
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Yes you did, thank you so much. In the tutorial I used it was saying that the newer versions of EZ unlock were having problems so I downloaded version 1.2. How do I proceed if my bootloader was unlocked improperly? Also, I went in to EZ recovery and flashed CWM and made a nandroid backup if this matters.
Thanks so much for your help.
If you used version 1.2 then my point was moot. So you can only get into CWM if you install CWM from ez recovery and then hit reboot into recovery? If you do the hold vol up + home button while powering on it always takes you to stock recovery?
Yep its very weird. Not sure what to do.
Someone else will likely be able to chime in on how to correct this, unfortunately (or fortunately? lol) it hasnt happened to me so I havent had to deal with it. Its not a huge deal so I wouldnt worry about it.
Personally I use TWRP recovery. You can try that and see if it will stick, you can always go back to CWM later. Try it in ez recovery, or Goo manager from the play store (I use goo manager). If you want to try installing it from goo manager, install the app, hit menu, then select install open recovery script.
K cool. So would it hurt me if I just used ez recovery to flash and reboot everytime I need to get into CWM? Also for goo manager does that install the one you were talking about or CWM?
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Goo manager is only for TWRP recovery. And as long as the backups are being stored and you can access them the next time you get into CWM, it doesnt matter. Like I said, hopefully someone will be able to tell you how to correct this issue and we will both learn a thing or two from it.
Did you follow Step 12 in Section 2 in the first link you posted?
You have to make sure to go to CWM v6.0.1 in the drop down and install that version of Clockwork Mod Recovery.
I'm not sure if that's the cause of your issue, but you may want to check into that
Yep i did that
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Can someone please help D:
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TWRP vs Philz CWM

I've been reading through tons of posts trying to figure out which recovery works best for flashing zips and/or installing OTA updates. I'd like to get a thread going so that it's more clear which recovery ROM is recommended and why. I've been using TWRP but find the touch to be spotty at BEST, also I got my phone into a bootloop after installing the 174.44.1 OTA update and it seemed like a lot of ppl that had no issues were using Philz CWM. So anyway, please post opinions!
I have the same query.
grahamgo said:
I have the same query.
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Have also been reading a lot about those recoveries.
I started with CWM because I had good experience with it on my Acer S120.
Recently (yesterday to be precisely) I changed to Philz CWM after I had to do a reflash of the whole system.
I decided for Philz because of the buggy touch functions from TWRP I read about.
So far I'm pleased with Philz CWM.
Can you link to where you obtained Philz CWM and which version are you using. I have just installed TWRP v2.6.3.0 and it seems fine (I couldn't find v2.6.3.2 which I think is the latest ver).
i had philz cwrm and when i did "restore default" for resetting settings original from menu settings, didn't work. it is a bug and for me, that want a phone complete working, this is important. most users use wipe from recovery but i want that function!!!
now i have v2.6.3.2 twrp and all is workind, even touch slide that before (until 2.6.3.0) was bugged.
same issue of philz recovery for my ex phone htc desire 500.... is philz that insert something error for restoring and even i asked many forum, noone know solution and many users don't know because don't try (or don't want try)
I use twrp with no issues at all (pretty sure the touch bug was fixed a while ago). But then I've also heard that Phil's cwm is brilliant, so I guess it's just down to personal preference?
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Can someone point me to the correct twrp 2.6.3.2 for moto g please. The one I found installed but says its 2.6.3.0 although its working fine.
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grahamgo said:
Can you link to where you obtained Philz CWM and which version are you using. I have just installed TWRP v2.6.3.0 and it seems fine (I couldn't find v2.6.3.2 which I think is the latest ver).
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Here is where I got mine http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/xt1032
It's for the XT1032 ofcourse.
grahamgo said:
Can someone point me to the correct twrp 2.6.3.2 for moto g please. The one I found installed but says its 2.6.3.0 although its working fine.
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I read somewhere that it was a typo. Mine says 2.6.3.0 after the install of 2.6.3.2. And yes its running fine, no bugs that I can see.
@slamor. OK, thanks yes its very responsive and seems to be perfect, the date is now correct too. Just that niggling v2.6.3.0 that shows up. I am reluctant to try Philz CWM only because I have several backups that I want to hang onto. Maybe Philz CWM uses the same backup/restore format? But right now it ain't broken, so no need to fix it!
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I dont know about that. From past experience I could Never use CWM backups on TWRP and vice versa.
Think about it as ...working.

It's been a while but p900 5.0.2 root help sd card

OK got a p900 again and dare I say it's been actually really fun to use again. Everything is more mature, I updated to 5.0.2 I r a the p900 WiFi model however, how do I root again please.
Plus is there any recommended roms? Ideally looking for one with less bloats are to be honest as I find the spend useful to clip ideas whi'e drawing etc from websites and pdf.
bump, anyone?
There's a recent thread talking about king root working. Not sure the full process though for lollipop as I didn't root lollipop I just went straight to a rooted lollipop ROM.
My advice is download and install TWRP (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2706982), make an nandroid backup and then install the latest version of civs ROM.
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muzzy996 said:
There's a recent thread talking about king root working. Not sure the full process though for lollipop as I didn't root lollipop I just went straight to a rooted lollipop ROM.
My advice is download and install TWRP (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2706982), make an nandroid backup and then install the latest version of civs ROM.
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Hi
Can you explain the process, I'm on 5.0.2 so not sure what to do and the process exactly?.
rirawin said:
Hi
Can you explain the process, I'm on 5.0.2 so not sure what to do and the process exactly?.
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I believe there's a guide thread for lollipop and root and you were the last poster in it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...guide-install-official-lollipop-p900-t3154362). While I don't know for certain what the answer is for you in the UK I am fairly confident that following the TWRP+Root section in the first post in that thread will work for you.
Just be mindful of the locations you download the TWRP and SuperSu files (you download one to your computer, you download the other to the tablet's SD card). Also pay attention to button combinations in the instructions because they're important (i.e. Power+Home+VolumeDown does something different than Power+Home+VolumeUp !!). Lastly make sure to heed the red text in the instructions too because if you allow the tablet to reboot prior to installing SuperSu then you'll likely end up in a bootloop and have to get back into stock recovery and restart the process again (worse, you may even have to wipe the device clean using Kies).
Good luck.
If you can at least get TWRP and root working on your device you can then do a backup in TWRP and also get backups of your apps/data using Titanium Backup prior to exploring other ROMs.
muzzy996 said:
I believe there's a guide thread for lollipop and root and you were the last poster in it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...guide-install-official-lollipop-p900-t3154362). While I don't know for certain what the answer is for you in the UK I am fairly confident that following the TWRP+Root section in the first post in that thread will work for you.
Just be mindful of the locations you download the TWRP and SuperSu files (you download one to your computer, you download the other to the tablet's SD card). Also pay attention to button combinations in the instructions because they're important (i.e. Power+Home+VolumeDown does something different than Power+Home+VolumeUp !!). Lastly make sure to heed the red text in the instructions too because if you allow the tablet to reboot prior to installing SuperSu then you'll likely end up in a bootloop and have to get back into stock recovery and restart the process again (worse, you may even have to wipe the device clean using Kies).
Good luck.
If you can at least get TWRP and root working on your device you can then do a backup in TWRP and also get backups of your apps/data using Titanium Backup prior to exploring other ROMs.
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Thank you, if I root can anything bad go wrong?
Do I get the original samsung rom and then flash back to stock if needed?.
Also does Wanam Xposed work with Lollipop, want to download an adblocker for my tablet and grant sd access.
To be honest given your apprehension I'm of the mind that if your best course of action is going with the custom ROM. I would root using the documented method first, install Titanium Backup once your stock ROM is rooted and then do a full backup of your apps. I would also do a full backup of your system in TWRP. If you're pressed for space after that then copy the backup files off of the device onto your computer before erasing them.
Once your backups are done (and I'm presuming you want to back things up first) then proceed with doing the Civs ROM install. This will get you Xposed framework and adblocking installed without any need for you to do the installs yourself. It keeps you out of trouble and best of all the support thread for his ROM is still active.
As for downloading the orginal ROM that's up to you . . doing the full backup in TWRP of your original rooted ROM is usually sufficient.
Keep in mind the methods I'm describing assume that you're not concerned with Knox or warranty status.
muzzy996 said:
To be honest given your apprehension I'm of the mind that if your best course of action is going with the custom ROM. I would root using the documented method first, install Titanium Backup once your stock ROM is rooted and then do a full backup of your apps. I would also do a full backup of your system in TWRP. If you're pressed for space after that then copy the backup files off of the device onto your computer before erasing them.
Once your backups are done (and I'm presuming you want to back things up first) then proceed with doing the Civs ROM install. This will get you Xposed framework and adblocking installed without any need for you to do the installs yourself. It keeps you out of trouble and best of all the support thread for his ROM is still active.
As for downloading the orginal ROM that's up to you . . doing the full backup in TWRP of your original rooted ROM is usually sufficient.
Keep in mind the methods I'm describing assume that you're not concerned with Knox or warranty status.
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HELP!!
I went throught the steps and now my Note is stuck on the Samsung logo??
Please help stuck on Samsung animation???
Boot back into recovery (power+home+volume up). Which recovery comes up? If recovery doesn't go back into download mode and try flashing TWRP usin odin again.
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muzzy996 said:
Boot back into recovery (power+home+volume up). Which recovery comes up? If recovery doesn't go back into download mode and try flashing TWRP usin odin again.
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Hi recovery is twrp, says neowin or something if that makes sense.
muzzy996 said:
To be honest given your apprehension I'm of the mind that if your best course of action is going with the custom ROM. I would root using the documented method first, install Titanium Backup once your stock ROM is rooted and then do a full backup of your apps. I would also do a full backup of your system in TWRP. If you're pressed for space after that then copy the backup files off of the device onto your computer before erasing them.
Once your backups are done (and I'm presuming you want to back things up first) then proceed with doing the Civs ROM install. This will get you Xposed framework and adblocking installed without any need for you to do the installs yourself. It keeps you out of trouble and best of all the support thread for his ROM is still active.
As for downloading the orginal ROM that's up to you . . doing the full backup in TWRP of your original rooted ROM is usually sufficient.
Keep in mind the methods I'm describing assume that you're not concerned with Knox or warranty status.
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Also can you link me to Civs rom please, not sure which one you are talking about?.
One of the things I want is, can I add different apps for the multi window function please?.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3155589
Based upon your post in the other thread I assume that you got root working.
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muzzy996 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3155589
Based upon your post in the other thread I assume that you got root working.
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Thanks so this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-civzp900lollipop-5-0-2-aroma-12-jul-t3155589
and not this one here which I replied too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...m-lollipop-5-0-2-stock-root-bussybox-t3207857
rirawin said:
Thanks so this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-civzp900lollipop-5-0-2-aroma-12-jul-t3155589
and not this one here which I replied too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...m-lollipop-5-0-2-stock-root-bussybox-t3207857
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Yes because the second one is stock rooted (as the title indicates) and you are already stock rooted.
At this point I hope you are aware that installing the ROM will erase all of your settings and applications, right?
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