Ok hi everyone, pretty new to the Inspire, although not to Androids and ROM flashing. Actually I'm a bit of an addict. Anyway I'm successfully rooted, so far have run CM7, MIUI, and currently Revolution. So here are the questions I have come up with so far, and haven't seen this asked as I've been poking through the threads past couple of weeks.
1. ROM Manager, it was a must on my prior phones, and I have the premium version, but is it usable on the Inspire? I noticed right away that the Ace Hack kit automagically installed Clockwork recovery, is it OK to update CWM from within ROM Manager? Is there anything in there for us? My most recent phone was the Droid Charge, and you would seriously mess up your phone if you did that. They don't seem to have CWM official support.
2. I noticed that my latest ROM, Revolution, brought with it a different recovery 4EXT (or is it EXT4?) ASSUMING that the answer to question 1 is yes, can I flash CWM over it? From ROM Manager? Not that this flavor of recovery seems to have anything wrong with it, but most ROMS specifically mention "flash in CWM" so I don't want to mess things up from the get go the next time I flash something.
Appreciate any input folks
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Quick and dirty answer-Yes.
Rom manager is very useful on the inspire. Also using the premium version, and it's the only way to fly. And as to the 4EXT recovery, it changes how the files are saved. Wouldn't worry about flashing it, as it works just as well as the stock version of recovery.
One thing I like about the 4EXT Recovery Control app is that it lets you verify the md5 checksum of your rom backups. I'm not sure if the premium version of ROM Manager does that, but the free version didn't. Or if it did, I never saw that option. Before I started using 4EXT, there were a couple of times where I went to restore a backup and CWM would say the MD5 didn't match. Having already wiped data before attempting to restore, I was stuck flashing a fresh ROM and starting from scratch. Now with 4EXT Recovery Control I can check the md5 of my backup before I boot into recovery and be sure that the restore will work.
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Ive been trying for about a week to get CM6 on my incredible. And i see some of the people on this forum have it. Ive contacted developers and users alike but for some reason I'm having trouble. After Root, I downloaded and installed Rom Manager but I'm unsure what to do next. I tried to flash Clockworkmod with the app, but when I boot up into recovery, I dont see The Clockwork menu, or the Nandroid backup option. I dont want to Flash the rom without being able to make a backup or install custom Update.zip files. Does anyone have any suggestions???Please PM me for any Suggestions!!!!!!!!!
I don't even see it in ROM manager and I'm definitely not installing a nightly build or release candidate on my daily driver...
Yes but if I wanted to I couldn't. It seems inasmuch if every time I try to flash clockwork, it doesent work and I can't make a android backup. I tried I fix the permissions but it won't let me even if I have Su
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did you use the unrevoked custom recovery program because rom manager doesnt flash a custom recovery on the incredible, (at least for me it doesn't). just read the directions and you should be good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706270
Got the new i727 from Rogers. First time Android user, come from the BB world.
Want to back up my stock ROM. Installed paid version of Rom Toolbox. Went to the Manage ROM section, and it told me I had to have ROM Manager.
Downloaded the free version of ROM manager, and it told me I had to have ClockworkMod installed, and asked if I wanted to install it.
Said YES, and it took me to a group of phones, not the SGS2 LTE. So I cancelled.
So three questions:
1. When I buy Rom Toolbox, why do I have to then get ROM Manager?
2. What is ClockworkMod?
3. Which phone do I select that will work on my Rogers Samsung Galaxy S2, and will that finally allow me to back up my stock ROM.
Thanks
Harry Fine
I'm not familiar with ROM Toolbox, nor do I know why you would use it. I'm not much of a fan of ROM Manager, either, but it does work. Install it, and select the T-Mobile SGS2 to get CWM installed. You can then take a Nandroid backup.
That said, backups of untouched stock ROMs are much less needed when there's already an Odin TAR out.
What does it mean to "take a nandroid" backup?
Got it. Installed CWM and did the ROM backup, now have a Nandroid backup, also copied to PC. I'm assuming if I've done this correctly, I can now re-install the stock ROM if I had to.
Once I have a nandroid backup that is known to be good, is there any situation (other than hardware) that would prevent me from un-bricking my phone by simply installing a known good ROM?
As long as you have a backup and are able to access CWM...flash away
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And where is CWM? Is it on the ROM itself, or on the boot sector? If the ROM is bad, or boot sector becomes corrupted, how do you access CWM?
And even if you can't access CWM - in other words, if you can't get past the Samsung logo - you can always return to stock with Odin.
basically as long as you can boot to either download mode or recovery you're safe.
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If I am using this forum improperly or asking too many questions on one thread that don't fit together, please inform me kindly.
Stock on 2.3.4 hboot 1.18 I rooted with revolutionary, and installed teamwin recovery. I am using the newest CM7 from the rootzwiki I believe. This is what I flashed anyway - update-cm-7.1.0-SelfKANG10-Sensation-signed.zip. Now I am 2.3.7 kernel ver 2.6.35.13_CyanogenMod+ [email protected] #1
ROM Manager app is now on my phone, but it says I need Clockwork recovery to use it. I also read through google and forums that just flashing between ROMs you have to have like same kernels and stuff like that, which I am very noob too.
I'm having Google framework FC issues and no GPS on CM7.
I think I want to switch from CM7 to this MIUI zip I got at MIUI.us - MIUI.us_pyramid_1.12.9.01_Eng_Deo_ZipA_Signed.zip
Which recovery SHOULD I be using? If clockwork is way to go, can I just go to my ROM manager app where it says, "flash Clockwork to this phone"?
If I want to change ROMs, what do I need and NOT need to backup? What exactly is "nandroid" back up, is it better than backup apps? Do I need to backup ROMs, and what exactly is that and what is proper way?
Do I have to wipe then restore everytime? Had some issues with this first time from stock sense to CM7, couldn't get Titanium or mybackup pro to restore my apps, and my contacts are quadrupled in size and organized oddly.
What is the best way to switch ROMs, flashing, ROM Manager, something else?
IF I wanted to run only one ROM for lets say 6 months, after I flash it, can I delete that zip from sd card, and phone will still work?
Suggest a ROM for me if you like also
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Stock on 2.3.4 hboot 1.18 I rooted with revolutionary, and installed teamwin recovery. I am using the newest CM7 from the rootzwiki I believe. This is what I flashed anyway - update-cm-7.1.0-SelfKANG10-Sensation-signed.zip. Now I am 2.3.7 kernel ver 2.6.35.13_CyanogenMod+ [email protected] #1
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So standard CM7, use the CM7 thread here on XDA as the reference.
ROM Manager app is now on my phone, but it says I need Clockwork recovery to use it. I also read through google and forums that just flashing between ROMs you have to have like same kernels and stuff like that, which I am very noob too.
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I personally don't use ROM Manager but use ClockworkMod alot. There is a thread here on CWM 5.0.2.0 somewhere, if I remember I'll add it.
Kernels need to be Compatible with the ROM. This compatibility requitement is in terms of Kernel revision (i.e. old Kernel might not work with a newer ROM). More importantly though there are two basic typed of ROM on the Sensation, namely Sense and AOSP based ones. These two varieties have completely different Kernels so you will need one from that branch. For example Faux makes two Kernel types AOSP (e.g. for CM7 and MIUI) and all the Sense derivatives.
I'm having Google framework FC issues and no GPS on CM7.
I think I want to switch from CM7 to this MIUI zip I got at MIUI.us - MIUI.us_pyramid_1.12.9.01_Eng_Deo_ZipA_Signed.zip
Which recovery SHOULD I be using? If clockwork is way to go, can I just go to my ROM manager app where it says, "flash Clockwork to this phone"?
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I'd just install CWM directly from the PG58IMG.zip file, but as I said I don't use ROM Manager.
If I want to change ROMs, what do I need and NOT need to backup? What exactly is "nandroid" back up, is it better than backup apps? Do I need to backup ROMs, and what exactly is that and what is proper way?
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The Nandroid backup performs a backup of the various phone partitions onto the SD-Card. This allows for a point in time backup and recovery of the phone.
ALWAYS do a Nandroid backup before playing with a new ROM or Kernel, JUST IN CASE **** happens.
Do I have to wipe then restore everytime? Had some issues with this first time from stock sense to CM7, couldn't get Titanium or mybackup pro to restore my apps, and my contacts are quadrupled in size and organized oddly.
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Never had this issue with contacts, I keep all mine synced with gmail. New ROM and they automatically update. I don't often use TB, others can probaby advise.
What is the best way to switch ROMs, flashing, ROM Manager, something else?
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I manually install the ROM Zip from CWM then wipe cache, Dalvik Cache and Fix permissions, YMMV.
IF I wanted to run only one ROM for lets say 6 months, after I flash it, can I delete that zip from sd card, and phone will still work?
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Yes
Suggest a ROM for me if you like also
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Depends if you want a Sense or ASOP based phone.
Ok ill try to hit all the points for you. First you can use any recovery you like (cwm, twrp, 4ext) but Rom manager will only work with cwm. You can get to your recovery 2 ways, either hold the power button and select reboot then recovery (note some roms don't have this) second power off your phone completely and hold vol down and power until you get to hboot and select recovery (note fastboot must be turned off in settings). Personally I don't recommend using Rom manager to flash your roms go to the recovery itself.
Flashing roms: it is recommended to wipe data wipe cache and wipe dalvik cache (its sometimes found under advanced like in cwm) and when you get that part down it isn't always neccesary but wipe system partition... Never ever wipe anything else... Unless your cleaning your battery stats but let's stick to the basics.
If you are just flashing an update to a Rom sometimes you don't have to wipe anything (i.e. cm7 v9 flashing to cm7 v10) but anytime you change Rom bases always wipe. Especially if you are going from cm7 to a sense 3 Rom and also sense 3.5 and vice versa. Also there are several superwipe files from several devs. I suggest using one of these. All you do is flash it like a Rom in recovery. They automatically wipe for you.
Kernels are labeled with the base you need I.e cm7 or sense review the kernels threads for more info.
Next, if you haven't wiped and tried a couple Roms that explains the contact problems and GPS issues.
A nandroid put simply is just a backup of your current Rom. Go to backup in your recovery and backup your current Rom. Is saves every little bit of your current Rom. You need to do this in case something goes wrong or if you don't like the new one. Then you can simply restore it if you need to.
After you flash a Rom it is in your phones memory. You can delete it off your sdcard no problems, unless you want to flash it again at another time. You can also delete old nandroids if you need to just keep at least the last one you made. They are large sometimes.
I have used about every Rom here I suggest mikes hdrevolution or cdtdroids Roms if you don't want cm7 (which is often referred to as aosp) if you want to try another aosp Rom try hypersensation it works good too.
And you used this forum perfectly asking questions in the q&a good job some people don't get that.
Edit: he beat me to the answers while I was typing lol. Also I hate autocorrect had to clean up my post hope it didn't confuse you.
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The Nandroid backup performs a backup of the various phone partitions onto the SD-Card. This allows for a point in time backup and recovery of the phone.
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I also can't get the multi quote to work like you did, how does that work lol?
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Ok, this forum is awesome, and I will defintely check out the other forums for kernels and other topics. I am understanding most of your replies, but as you see I get other questions from some answers lol. I did just wipe everything(data factory reset) again, and installed the MIUI and when I signed in my google on setup, all my apps started downloading from market and my contacts were all there in a little bit better fashion than before. Also, when I put CM7 that was my FIRST ROM and immediately after my FIRST time attempting and successfully doing a root s-off. Now MIUI makes my 2nd ROM. I'm sure if I hang around here enough I'll get the hang of it all and start to figure it all out better. I vultured around these forums for 4 months with a stock phone before I did anything, and my phone isn't bricked so I'm happy about that.
For some more detail try checking out the stickies in the development section there are some awesome guides and answers there too.
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I have looked really hard to find the answer to this, but I couldn't find it.
I have a HTC EVO Shift, which was already flashed to Boost Mobile before I bought it.
After looking at the Boot Animations and apps, I realized the phone was also running the MikShifted-G ROM.
I have been using the phone for some time now, but after I found that my phone was not getting the upgrade to ICS, I decided that I wanted to switch ROMs, especially ones that were ICS and stuff.
I followed many tutorials and I have done the following:
-I have rooted my phone.
-I have installed ROM Manager, and I have gotten ClockWorkMod to work.
-I backed up my data with the backup option.
Here are the questions I have:
-It says on most ROMS to "wipe everything." If I choose to Factory Reset/Wipe All in ClockWorkMod, will that un-flash my phone back to Sprint? I do not want to factory reset if my phone will not run on Boost Mobile, hence it is a lot cheaper.
-If I install another ROM and decide to go back to the ROM my phone used to have, does installing ROM Manager again on the new ROM allow me to use the backup I made to go back to how my phone used to be?
Thanks,
Sarcasticphoenix
I can't say for sure but doing a full wipe and flashing a ROM shouldn't have any affect on your phone working with boost. Search the EVO threads, I'm sure you'll find a lot of people on boost flashing various ROMs and kernels.
As far as actually flashing the ROM, you should get familiar with using recovery manually, not just relying on ROM manager to do everything for you. Here's a nice guide on how to flash ROMs http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1266885. Be sure to make a nandroid backup before flashing any ROM (If you already made a backup using ROM manager it can be restored either via recovery or the ROM manager app.)
Also consider using Dread 7 Us's modified recovery. Based off Clockwork Mod but with some great differences: super wipe where you can choose which partitions to wipe and do it multiple times automatically(much less tedious than Clockword Mod's wipe each once method) and it also removes the ton of 'NO's' you have to scroll through to confirm an action in Clockwork Mod and others upgrades I don't recall.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...RECOVERY] CW-Enhanced [v1.1b] Updated 5/22/12
Flash it just like Clockwork Mod but do a nandroid before just in case. Make sure to also flash the updated one as the first version had MD5 check issues.
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if i put a rom into my phone and do a backup... can i go back to rooted stock and put another rom and i i dont like it restore to the other rom?
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if i put a rom into my phone and do a backup... can i go back to rooted stock and put another rom and i i dont like it restore to the other rom?
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As long as you have s-off nandroid restore will work fine. As far as the roms it depends on if the roms have the boost mobile apn's in them or not. A.F.A.I.K. CM7 roms and variants have the most apn support. Might want to do a search on google if cm7 supports boost or not.
I have been using RM and CWMR since mid 2010, and never considered it was anything but the default app for flashing and the CWM was the "goto" recovery. But I am considering flashing zydroid because it looks like something that would work well for me... But I keep running into TWRP...
Since I may be old school, can someone tell me (I) if this TWRP recovery is advisable, (II) if this is only a One-S thing, or is there a "changing of the guard" taking place, and (III) I already installed goo manager...But I don't see how to change/flash the TWRP recovery, and if it is as simple as just flashing it like we do using RM.
Thanks a lot!
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I have been using RM and CWMR since mid 2010, and never considered it was anything but the default app for flashing and the CWM was the "goto" recovery. But I am considering flashing zydroid because it looks like something that would work well for me... But I keep running into TWRP...
Since I may be old school, can someone tell me (I) if this TWRP recovery is advisable, (II) if this is only a One-S thing, or is there a "changing of the guard" taking place, and (III) I already installed goo manager...But I don't see how to change/flash the TWRP recovery, and if it is as simple as just flashing it like we do using RM.
Thanks a lot!
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In goo manager press flash roms then press try to find me one. It will give you a few prompts and will flash twrp for you simple as that. The next time you boot into recovery it will be TWRP. I'm pretty sure you'll like it.
On a side note TWRP CWM back up and recoveries aren't compatible with each other so once you flash TWRP make sure you make a back up.
Also as long as you have a S4 processor you shouldn't have problems with anything as far as flashing roms or recoveries.
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Just do it, you won't regret it. TWRP is awesome and has so many features. Like states above me, make a backup once you install TWRP since your cwm backup won't work in TWRP
HTC One S running Zydroid!
You also just need to open goo manager then hit menu and one of the options is " install open recovery script", click that and follow the prompts. Boom done.
HTC One S running Zydroid!
Ok.... Do I run the open reccovery script, or do I follow your instructions in your first post? Are they separate (in other words)?
Oh.. and as long s you are here.. what is your experience with Wi-Fi after flashing Zydroid compared to "stock" stock? Any problems?
How is the bootani, etc. Things you think are pretty cool?
Really like the parts of Sense that mod AOSP a little, but I would love a ROM that is a touch of Sense 4 without all the underlying garbage that is either TMO or HTC 's doing.
Alright, I am going to flash (or try to figure it out) and make a backup.
Oh wait, one more question. Besides booting into recovery to Fix Permissions, does goo manager have an option to Fix Permissions while the OS is up? Because I couldn't seem to find it.
Thanks a lot!
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Just open goo manager and press menu, you'll see install open recovery script. That's it, it won't even reboot and you'll have TWRP.
Zydroid works perfectly for me. In fact it's the only rom I installed that wifi even works. I like it and won't leave it unless something incredible comes out that just kills zydroid. There are add ons all available thru goo manager along with kernel choices.
So for me, TWRP is is definitely the way to go. With TWRP you don't need to fastboot boot.img separately. So not having to hook my phone up to a pc and just be able to flash roms when I'm at work and such is a huge part of my decision to go with TWRP.
It's basically stock one S rom with the nice features built in and all of tmobiles crap taken out.
Fix Permissions I know is in TWRP, not sure If you're given the option thru goo manager
HTC One S running Zydroid!