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Hi all,
Am a newbie to Android tablets/devices both in terms of hardware and software. So if my post is posted in the wrong thread or reposted pls pardon me. I just want to understand a few basics.
As you all may know, now the market is being flooded by those Chinese made Android tablets. And many of them looks good (at least on paper) and at a very good price. But the problem is most of the time when come to chinese goods, they don't usually do what they claims (if you know what i mean). and the best part most of the salesperson don't know anything about the products they are selling especially when comes to tech gadgets like the Android tablets.
So here i am seeking help from you gurus and hoping i can start my Android journey on the right step. Below are a few questions. Hope I can get answers (links to somewhere where i can read up or anything).
1. What are the conditions (CPU make, firmware, etc) to fulfill if i wan to upgrade/root/hack the original Android OS? Cos most of the chinese made tablets are running on Android 1.5. Hoping to be able to upgrade the OS whenever a newer one comes out. Like the latest 2.1 And be able to download new apps from the apps market.
2. Which CPU chip is better and what are the common CPU chips in the market now? I know there are the Rockchips, VIA, Telechips.
3. Can we tell what are the hardware (CPU make etc) and software (OS/firmware version, etc) that are being used in the device from the system setting or something?
4. I read somewhere that not all CPU chips can be upgraded to the latest OS. i.e. that any upgrade is determined by the CPU chip. Is it true?
5. As for custom ROM, is it also device dependable? Like is there a generic ROM for all devices?
For now these are the questions which are bugging me. Hope the gurus here can enlighten this Android newbie.
Sorry for the long winded post and thanks for any help.
Hmmm. Just check that it is upgradable to froyo and it has more than 500mhz cpu
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if you are looking for a tablet just get an ipad. the android tablets i see floating around are just 1.5 or 1.6. even if you get a tablet that can do 2.2 (froyo)... i dont see how that can be any better than an ipad.
i just feel that 2.2 isnt meant to be in tablet form. if you can wait... wait for 3.0 before you decide. the main deterrent here is the maximum resolution for android (854 x 480 or something), and that the apps were made with phones in mind.
im very happy with my nexus one... i just cant imagine having a tablet running android as of the moment unless its very very cheap ($200 or so).
i for one will get an ipad next month. my nexus one with wifi tether + the basic wifi ipad will be gadget heaven. looking to get an ipad primarily for reading magazines (zinio) and comic books. android does not have zinio yet. the android comic viewer (ACV) i use on my nexus is ok... but not great. then theres the games. games on android are still so so with less variety and choices.
as a phone the android is great! better than the iphone (yes im an apple user through and through) even. but as a tablet... not quite yet.
Hp is going to release a tablet so is samsung with 2.2
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Hopefully start seeing some of these 2.2 tablets in the 3rd Quarter...
Considering marcan is creating a bootloader for linux in PS3... won't you consider it at least? It would be perfect because the ps3 has not much memory, yet android 2.1 works really well on my g1... with less than the ps3
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It would have to be a PPC version of Android (its kernel). Since it's open source it would be possible, yes. Don't know about any compilers though (except for the leaked, illegal SDK).
The PS3's processor is radically different from the processor in your phone, so porting android to it would be nigh impossible and, quite frankly, totally not worth it. RAM isn't the issue, it's the rest of the system that would cause problems.
Also, this is the G1 area, not general android development, so your post is a bit out of place for the kind of feedback you want.
Not to mention that otherOS has been removed from the ps3 ages ago, and with the psjailbreak patched up it'd be difficult for people to try it out too
Just a quick poll. What will your next phone OS be? Select away! Give reasons if you wish.
WM/Android/WP7 on the same device no need to choose only one!!!
Of course in Leo
Previous OS: WM6.1
Current OS: Android
Next OS: Android
kekkle said:
Previous OS: WM6.1
Current OS: Android
Next OS: Android
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Basically the same here:
wm6.1
wm6.5
current: android
android
android
android
Previous OS: 5.0 - 6.1
Current OS: Mighty Rom 6.5 & Android 2.2
Future OS: Windows Mobile 7 & Any Future Android OS
Previous OS: WM 5.0 - WM 6.5.X
Current OS: Android 2.1-2.2.1, 1.6
Next OS: WP7
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WM/Android/WP7 on the same device no need to choose only one!!!
Of course in Leo
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I simply dont understand this Leo - I have seen it run WP7 - not very impressive TBH - it doesnt run smooth at all.
Is Android fully functional?
I would never say that the screens that great - not the amoled screens you get now - massive difference.
Also - why would you want to be running/switching between multiple OSs - I dont know of anybody who would do that on a "normal" bases - fine to test and fool around, but seriously... not practical at all.
Either the Nokia N8 or the HD2, if the latter will have dual-boot WM6.5 and WP7 with full support for the latter.
Why the Nokia N8? Because of the camera and the call recording capabilities (which I really want), in which it's clearly better than even the iPhone 4. Also, it's also stated to have much better battery life.
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Either the Nokia N8 or the HD2, if the latter will have dual-boot WM6.5 and WP7 with full support for the latter.
Why the Nokia N8? Because of the camera and the call recording capabilities (which I really want), in which it's clearly better than even the iPhone 4. Also, it's also stated to have much better battery life.
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Dont think the HD2 will have full support - its not officially supported, so there will always be some thing wrong - I reckon slower performance.
Nokia N8 - hardware - amazing - Software - depressing. No wonder they are moving to meego
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Dont think the HD2 will have full support - its not officially supported, so there will always be some thing wrong - I reckon slower performance.
Nokia N8 - hardware - amazing - Software - depressing. No wonder they are moving to meego
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Yeah, the N8 has pretty bad third-party software support. But I don't want to use it as a main mobile device - after all, I have all the iOS goodies (iPad, iPod Touch 4G, soon the iPhone 4; of them, I take the iPad to everywhere) to e.g. read books, watch movies, play games and would only want the N8 for an excellent cameraphone, which also records calls.
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I simply dont understand this Leo - I have seen it run WP7 - not very impressive TBH - it doesnt run smooth at all.
Is Android fully functional?
I would never say that the screens that great - not the amoled screens you get now - massive difference.
Also - why would you want to be running/switching between multiple OSs - I dont know of anybody who would do that on a "normal" bases - fine to test and fool around, but seriously... not practical at all.
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You would be in the minority on the Leo/HD2. Samsung has the Super Amoled screen and that is it. The HD2 is great as well.
I have both the G2 and HD2. I am do dual boot and it is easy because both my email accounts(Gmail and Exchange) refresh with what ever is running. Android is not sluggish on the HD2. Sluggish doesn't get quadrant scores like the ones below.
Currently Omnia i900 WinMo 6.5
Next HD2 WinDroid
I'm a heavy Google Voice user, so it's hard to consider other platforms, since Android has the best GV integration into the phone's main functions, such as dialing, sending SMS, etc. I would consider iOS, WP7, or WebOS if they had the same GV experience as Android.
Why would i bother going to iOS when apple sucks anyway?
flyboyovyick said:
Why would i bother going to iOS when apple sucks anyway?
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I dont think much of comments like this lol... justify your views!
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...Sluggish doesn't get quadrant scores like the ones below.
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Very interesting. I hadnt thought Android would run so well on it.
So is android fully functional on the HTC HD2?
Everthing working?
Former: Android (G1)
Current: Android (G2)
Next: Android (Hopefully G3)
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Very interesting. I hadnt thought Android would run so well on it.
He is showing scores from his device with custom ROM vs. stock devices. BS inflated scores.
So is android fully functional on the HTC HD2?
Everthing working?
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Previous: iOS 4.1
Current: Android 2.2
Next: Android Gingerbread
I recently switched from my iphone 3gs and its the best move I could have made, there is so much more in an android system.
The fact that the market us open and equal, the ease of configuring this device and all the performance roms makes this OS great.
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Have already tried sailing in these rough waters :
Symbian : Its worse than whatever worse is out there (Nokia 5800)
Blackberry : Getting Archaic (Blackberry 8520)
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However i might also get a WP7 Device too
hi guys,
I'd like to know if it possible because I've been using my Xperia x1 for about a year and i think it's time for a change but when I checked all the available phones I got confused a little.
it seems like Windows phone 7 looks great but in a review i saw somewhere it says that it lacks some important features such as:
No Bluetooth file transfers
No USB mass storage mode
No multitasking
No copy/paste
No Flash or Silverlight support in the web browser
No DivX/XviD video support
No internet tethering support
Swapping memory card requires hard reset; cards not readable by computer
and Android has great features but IMO I think WinMo gives more freedom in the terms of using or hacking
and as a WinMo 6.5 user I find it a great OS with all the features needed and if there some feature I want that is not already offered it's available here on XDA-Dev either as a .cab or cooked in a ROM
So the Main Question: if I buy a Sonyericsson (X10 maybe) or a HTC with a 1 GHz Processor will I be able to install any OS of them as a ROM???
Thanx in advance.
The only device capable of running WP7 is the hTC Leo and it has actually working Android and some working on Ubuntu and Maemo as well.
not any other device will be capable to do so
Thanx for reply
So the HD2/Leo is able to handle all 3 OSs
but i have more questions please
how is the HD2 up to date regarding the specs? like the RAM, ROM, and processor
can there be 2 OSs in the same time and to be able to switch between them?
and does android 2.2 froyo work 100% i mean with everything working??
thanx again
ahmedsalem89 said:
it seems like Windows phone 7 looks great
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I'm intreagued, what about the duplo phone looks great to you?
The basic HD2 specs are up to date on paper (RAM, ROM, processor) and even beat some newer phones but dig deep and you'll see the latest version of the chips are better. Android 2.2 is running perfectly but WP7 is still work in progress.
It's more than a year old but still the best phone EVER.
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The basic HD2 specs are up to date on paper (RAM, ROM, processor) and even beat some newer phones but dig deep and you'll see the latest version of the chips are better. Android 2.2 is running perfectly but WP7 is still work in progress.
It's more than a year old but still the best phone EVER.
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Well, it's clear now that the HD2 is one of the best phones out there as it's capable of handling nearly the 3 OSs, Thanx for ur help
Any chance for Desire to use WP7 too?
I would be great if it is possible.
I wanna try WP7 too.
Hey,
Why is there no android version for the N8?
Could anyone create it? There is enough animo for it.
If i read some forums I see that some people want it. Why not?
Also it has the best mobile camera in the world.
If someone can run android on it it would be the best device ever. (I think)
I could find an answer on this forum. But I think this is already changed.
(That there isn't enough animo for it. But there is!)
I'm also a newb in this world. But I like android and the compatibility that the most devices already have with it.
Kevin
I dont know if its that simple. I dont rly know if the android suitable for N8, anyway would be nice to have it (even though that i have HD2, which i think that is much better than N8.) If its possible, my friends will have android too! xD
indeed!
I think an android developer must buy an n8.. that he can see it's a wonderfull device.
And then create android for it.
Not all phones are like hd2, where you can have different os
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Not all people wants a HD2
you are not alone my friend!
I too wish the N8 had Android.
It is a much better device than the HD2, screen size isn't everything.
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Not all phones are like hd2, where you can have different os
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anything is possible, it just takes time.
and in the HD2's favor, it had hardware that was common across different platforms.
plus a big userbase
Isnt the N8 nokia soft based on Debian? couldn't drivers be ported my friend has this device and yes the camera is amazing on it
I thougt it was only meego and maemo wich is debian based?
i was thinking to get a nokia n8 untill ive found out that nokia had very low quality development for that new symbian version, and that they moved torwards windows mobile... i never liked windows mobile and since they were not going for android i said whats the point, on paper the nokia n8 is amazing, but it has some problems aswell, for example the cpu is only 625mhz, while its arguably enough to run android, im not entirely sure it has all the instruction sets compatible with it, emulation is out of the question too, the android code would have to be natively changed to work for it, and then there had to be the matter of games, they also had to be coded properly for that specific gpu,cpu and sound chip, accelerometer and so on.
So thats why ppl dont usually port phones to android, its a mess to code and most of the drivers they have to code them from scratch.
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i was thinking to get a nokia n8 untill ive found out that nokia had very low quality development for that new symbian version, and that they moved torwards windows mobile... i never liked windows mobile and since they were not going for android i said whats the point, on paper the nokia n8 is amazing, but it has some problems aswell, for example the cpu is only 625mhz, while its arguably enough to run android, im not entirely sure it has all the instruction sets compatible with it, emulation is out of the question too, the android code would have to be natively changed to work for it, and then there had to be the matter of games, they also had to be coded properly for that specific gpu,cpu and sound chip, accelerometer and so on.
So thats why ppl dont usually port phones to android, its a mess to code and most of the drivers they have to code them from scratch.
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The CPU is official build for 750mhz. So it can run faster.. Also i heard that the new version of android (3.0?) has hardware acceleration for the UI. So the GPU can be used for it.
cpu for android need nore juice and ram.
battery life will be hunger for more to join android.
nokia seem battery effective device.low power consumption
under18 said:
cpu for android need nore juice and ram.
battery life will be hunger for more to join android.
nokia seem battery effective device.low power consumption
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Why?
The HTC ChaCha and Salsa has a 600 mhz processor... And still Android runs on it.
Indeed the ram is littlebit low 256 mb...
Chacha is 800Mhz, 512 of ram..
yeah i wish that someone would find a way to port android to n8 i recently got one and dont like symbian os, any way i'll keep on searching if no luck, guess i have to get an android phone
Edit: forgot to say i had a sony ericsson x8 which had 600 Mhz processor and 256mb ram and i was even able to run android 4.0 on it dunno why n8 would not run on this device
The question is why port android to N8? The N8 is a wonderful device as is. If you have an N8 you probably bought it for it's camera prowess. Bonus: you get a very long battery life (compared to droids). Now if you want to port android on it then it will become power hungry and will be full of glitches since it has poor dev support. Also, you wouldn't want a slow droid. 600mhz for a droid is quite slow, and as stated, the RAM is low. You're better off buying an affordable Galaxy Y. Believe me it's quite fast, if you can live with it's low res screen.
Cheers,
Cezar
kevinwalter said:
Hey,
Why is there no android version for the N8?
Could anyone create it? There is enough animo for it.
If i read some forums I see that some people want it. Why not?
Also it has the best mobile camera in the world.
If someone can run android on it it would be the best device ever. (I think)
I could find an answer on this forum. But I think this is already changed.
(That there isn't enough animo for it. But there is!)
I'm also a newb in this world. But I like android and the compatibility that the most devices already have with it.
Kevin
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it's not possible to port Android or any other OS to symbian phones because of locked bootloaders by Nokia
Nokia n9 is running meego OS which is with unlocked bootloaders and that's why this phone can have dual boot or just one OS like Android 4.x.x ICS
I want it too
I have an Nokia N8 too and i would love to run android on it.
So if there is any way to install android on it....
I also have nokia n8, it was really a great phone,hi quality build, superb. And I fine with symbian^3 but what bothering me was that the nokia apps store is getting useless. I need BBM and can't find any.