Hey guys!
Just wondering what Moto G versions will be available, specifically what antennas will each version have?
I'm on Wind Mobile in Canada (AWS Band).
So far I found a few diff. versions of this phone, for US, UK and Canadian markets.
US radio specs:
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/moto-g/Moto-G/moto-g-pdp-ways-to-buy.html
Networks
Global GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
US GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz)
CDMA Model: CDMA/EVDO Rev A (850, 1900 MHz)
UK Band specs:
http://www.motorola.co.uk/consumers/mobile-phones/moto-g-gb.html
Networks
HSPA+ DL 21.1Mbps / UL 5.76Mbps- EV-DO Rev.A DL 3.1Mbps / UL 1.8Mbps
Bands/Modes
CDMA: 850/1900 UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
Canada, Telus Only (for now)
HSPA 850/900/1900/2100; GSM 850/900/1800/1900
It looks like Telus is selling Global GSM Model
maxqas said:
To OP:
Confirmed. Telus/Koodo is indeed selling what looks like the International GSM version.
Model: XT1032
Baseband: MSM8626BP_1032.3051.51.00R
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It looks like US GSM Model (sold on Motorola US site) WILL work with Wind Mobile in Canada!
While AWS transmits on ~1710-1755 MHz and receives on ~2110-2155 MHz, this band is known as 1700 or Band IV or AWS.
2100 refers to Band I (2100 IMT), a totally different band which is used in Asia and Europe, but not in North America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
The US version supports AWS because that is what T-Mobile uses in the US, and it's the same band that Wind uses.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1693841-Only-have-2100mhz
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Brasil
Dual SIM version:
http://www.lojaoficialmotorola.com.br/product/celulares/116699802/moto-getrade%3B-dual
Bands:
http://www.motorola.com.br/consumers/MOTO-G/Moto-G/Moto-G-BRPT.html
GSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100
Chile
ferossan said:
Chilean version (Movistar) and probably all Latinoamerican except Brazil:
3G HSPA 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
2G GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Data 3G HSDPA 21 Mbps - HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Data 2G GPRS - EDGE
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Any other models that you guys can add here?
Thanks!
Wow, the UK version actually supports more band, it should be the global version. There are many countries provide Uim card (CDMA sim card) on their CDMA2000 network.
The Brazilian Dual Chip Version has the same Bands of the UK version.
Moto G UK version
jshzhv6 said:
Wow, the UK version actually supports more band, it should be the global version. There are many countries provide Uim card (CDMA sim card) on their CDMA2000 network.
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I was actually wondering the same thing myself. I wanted to buy one here in the UK because it says it supports all the bands (including 1700), but is this in fact true, or is it just the Global version?
Allewar said:
The Brazilian Dual Chip Version has the same Bands of the UK version.
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Hi
Are you sure Allewar?
Motorola Brasil and the store they point you to (http://www.lojaoficialmotorola.com.br/product/celulares/116699802/moto-getrade%3B-dual)
doesn't list AWS 1700 band. Unlike the UK version.
See my OP.
Thanks
Moto G
From what I read in Canada we cannot get the 16gb version, have to find online somewhere.
Chilean version (Movistar) and probably all Latinoamerican except Brazil:
3G HSPA 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
2G GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Data 3G HSDPA 21 Mbps - HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Data 2G GPRS - EDGE
Hello everyone, first post here!
I ordered a moto G from the us store since I have a connection in Washington state to ship it to. On their site they list 1700(aws) but not the 2100 needed for downloading.
I phoned motorola this morning and informed them of my uncertainty. The level 2 technician replied that the american phone will fully support 1700/2100 used by aws. I also informed the technician of my carrier, so it looks like the american gsm model will work with wind.
cheers :good:
To OP:
Confirmed. Telus/Koodo is indeed selling what looks like the international GSM version.
Model: XT1032
Baseband: MSM8626BP_1032.3051.51.00R
I would love to know how to enable 1700/2100 bands on it!!!
Do we know if there are hardware differences? I would like to see if we can get a thread going for enabling AWS support on international GSM version. There is an extensive knowledge-base here on XDA when it comes to tinkering with the Galaxy S2 and S3 modems and NV parameters to enable Wind/TMO AWS. I remember at one point there was discussion of whether AWS was even possible on the S3 i747.
Any input would be appreciated!!
maxqas said:
To OP:
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Model: XT1032
Baseband: MSM8626BP_1032.3051.51.00R
I would love to know how to enable 1700/2100 bands on it!!!
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Sorry I can't help make this happen but I thought I'd offer my support and would also love to see 1700/2100 bands enabled.
ferossan said:
Chilean version (Movistar) and probably all Latinoamerican except Brazil:
3G HSPA 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
2G GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Data 3G HSDPA 21 Mbps - HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Data 2G GPRS - EDGE
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Thanks ferossan, I added your info to OP.
matlabwtf said:
Hello everyone, first post here!
I ordered a moto G from the us store since I have a connection in Washington state to ship it to. On their site they list 1700(aws) but not the 2100 needed for downloading.
I phoned motorola this morning and informed them of my uncertainty. The level 2 technician replied that the american phone will fully support 1700/2100 used by aws. I also informed the technician of my carrier, so it looks like the american gsm model will work with wind.
cheers :good:
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Hi matlabwtf! Welcome to XDA
Thanks for sharing your findings.
From what I've researched so far, 1700 MHz AWS band operates on 1700 up and 2100 down.
There's another AWS band as well, 2100MHz AWS band, it operates on 1900 up and 2100 down. It is used overseas, Asia, Europe, etc.
The carriers (cellphone companies and their employees) confuse people when they tell you need 1700/2100 band phone.
In reality you only need to make sure that the phone has 1700 AWS band, that's all.
Please let us know when your receive your handset, thanks.
maxqas said:
To OP:
Confirmed. Telus/Koodo is indeed selling what looks like the international GSM version.
Model: XT1032
Baseband: MSM8626BP_1032.3051.51.00R
I would love to know how to enable 1700/2100 bands on it!!!
Do we know if there are hardware differences? I would like to see if we can get a thread going for enabling AWS support on international GSM version. There is an extensive knowledge-base here on XDA when it comes to tinkering with the Galaxy S2 and S3 modems and NV parameters to enable Wind/TMO AWS. I remember at one point there was discussion of whether AWS was even possible on the S3 i747.
Any input would be appreciated!!
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Thanks maxqas, I added your info to OP.
same here. I hope we can enable 1700 AWS band on Telus/koodo version!
no1_cdn said:
Thanks maxqas, I added your info to OP.
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Glad to help! Is there any way to know the model number and baseband for the US GSM (AWS) version?? If it's the same model then I bet it is just a matter of flashing the relevant modem and nvdata parameters.
maxqas said:
Glad to help! Is there any way to know the model number and baseband for the US GSM (AWS) version?? If it's the same model then I bet it is just a matter of flashing the relevant modem and nvdata parameters.
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Hey
I'd have to dig some more to find out if all the models have same radios internally. Supposedly there were 5 models of Moto G approved by the FCC in the US:
XT1032, XT1033, XT1034, XT1035, and XT1036
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UK Version
Just wanted to add that the UK version, despite listing the 1700 UMTS on the UK Motorola site, does not list said band on the box. I checked in store today, and it only had UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100. Appears to be the same as the Global version being sold in the US.
Hi Irfan
If they have a working demo, would you be able to check the settings and look at the model number and baseband? Only if you get an opportunity that is...
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Moto G Model Numbers
XT1032, XT1033, XT1034, XT1035, and XT1036
XT1032 Global GSM
XT1033 Dual SIM Global GSM
XT1034 US GSM (T-Mobile?)
XT1035
XT1036 US GSM (T-Mobile?)
Can't find any info on XT1035...
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XT1031 CDMA version
XT1032 UMTS SS version
XT1033 UMTS DS version
XT1034 AWS version
Hi all, I'm considering buying an unlocked GSM Moto G 3rd Gen, and I am trying to figure out how it will work outside the US with other network operators. The 2 areas I am interested in are Hong Kong and Ecuador.
The network specs for the Moto G 3rd Gen are:
Code:
Technology GSM / CDMA / HSPA / LTE
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
CDMA 800 / 1900 - XT1548
3G bands HSDPA 900 / 2100 - XT1541
HSDPA 850 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - XT1540
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 - XT1548
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800) - XT1541
LTE band 2(1900), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 17(700) - XT1540
LTE band 2(1900), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 12(700), 17(700), 25(1900), 26(850), 41(2500) - XT1548
Speed HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE Cat4 150/50 Mbps
GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
GSM information from: http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
China, Hong Kong (SAR):
Code:
900 1800
3G 2100 CSL Ltd; 3G 2100 HKT; 3G 900/2100 Hutchison; 3G 2100 SmarTone;
4G LTE HKT 1800/2600Mhz; 4G LTE Hutchison 1800/2600Mhz; 4G LTE SmarTone 1800Mhz;
Ecuador:
Code:
1900 850
3G 850 Claro; 3G 2100 MOVISTAR;
4G LTE CNT Mobile 1700Mhz;
My conclusion from the data above is:
Voice/SMS/2G Data - Supported in both HK and Ecuador because the Moto G supports all 850, 900, 1800, and 1900
3G Data - Supported in both HK and Ecuador on all carriers since all frequencies for the carriers are present in the phone specs for 3G
4G LTE - Supported in both HK and Ecuador on all carriers because all frequencies listed by the carriers are present in the 4G LTE list
Could someone eyeball these specs and let me know if I'm drawing the correct conclusions or if I'm actually misunderstanding how the bands work?
Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks!
Edit: I was double checking the bands listed on gsmarena, which claims both Hong Kong and Ecuador have UMTS 3G bands. The Moto G specs say HSDPA for all the 3G bands. Does the phone need to have UMTS listed for it to work or are they compatible for 3G?
I recently purchased a virgin mobile moto g XT1548. I would like to use the device on t-mobile. Is there a way to unlock it for GSM use.
Note: This phone has most of the GSM bands and sim card support.
SIM Card Type micro SIM (3FF)
GSM Mhz Band Quad-Band 850/900/1800/1900
2G Network CDMA 800/1900, GSM 850/900/1800/1900
3G Network CDMA2000 1xEV-DO, UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
4G Network LTE Cat4 700/850/1700/1900/2100 (Bands 2,4,5,12,17,25,26), TD-LTE 2500 (Bands 41)
Data Network CDMA2000 EV-DO Rev A, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+, LTE
SIM unlock can only be done by the carrier, or a reputable unlocking service (for a fee).