I'm using Cataclysm, ART and Franco, and I'm tempted to try out Cataclysm's Smart Radio feature to extend my battery life. However, I've read a handful of accounts that seem to indicate Smart Radio can actually hurt battery life.
Should I turn it on? What should I know before doing so?
woowhee said:
I'm using Cataclysm, ART and Franco, and I'm tempted to try out Cataclysm's Smart Radio feature to extend my battery life. However, I've read a handful of accounts that seem to indicate Smart Radio can actually hurt battery life.
Should I turn it on? What should I know before doing so?
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You aren't going to blow your phone up if you turn it on. There are too many different factors that affect battery life. It's most likely case dependent. My main issue with that feature is when tethering. When the screen would go off, it'd switch to 2G and that's no good. I prefer the Xposed module Intelli3G as it has an option to disable when the Wifi AP is on, as well as more advanced options vs Smart Radio.
Long story short, try it. If it doesn't work well, or affect battery life in a good way, then just disable and reboot. Shouldn't be any lingering issues.
woowhee said:
I'm using Cataclysm, ART and Franco, and I'm tempted to try out Cataclysm's Smart Radio feature to extend my battery life. However, I've read a handful of accounts that seem to indicate Smart Radio can actually hurt battery life.
Should I turn it on? What should I know before doing so?
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I use the smart radio in gravity box. I can tell you that is does save battery life but take this with a grain of salt. It all depends how often you unlock your phone and it switches the network, the usage, and a variety of other factors. Where I think it saves the most battery is when I am not using it and it stays on 2g/3g versus being on LTE all the time (maybe not having a great signal or searching for one etc). I hope you understand what I am trying to say.
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Hey guys,
Just had a question out of curiosity. I've already had to concede defeat to the fact that if I want my battery life to be usable on my T-Mobile LG G2x, I'll have to have 4G either turned off or at least downgraded to T-Mobile's EDGE network. The downside to this approach is that all incoming calls have to be directed to my phone as anyone trying to call my Google Voice number won't be able to reach me with my network down or too weak.
Now here's my question. For saving battery life, do I save a lot more power by allowing Juice Defender (JD) to turn off my network while my phone's asleep, or do I only use slightly more power by having 2G toggled on using Toggle 2G/3G?
Personally, I've never been happy with Juice Defender or Green Power. I've always felt like I got better battery if I just managed everything myself, plus I didn't have to worry about push notifications like Google Voice. I finally just decided to manually turn off all auto-sync when I was away from Wifi, and be sure that all apps that do auto-sync were properly set in their own respective settings.
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Personally, I've never been happy with Juice Defender or Green Power. I've always felt like I got better battery if I just managed everything myself, plus I didn't have to worry about push notifications like Google Voice. I finally just decided to manually turn off all auto-sync when I was away from Wifi, and be sure that all apps that do auto-sync were properly set in their own respective settings.
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That makes sense. I've been gradually doing that myself, turning off GPS and autosync when I need either.
How's your battery life? Are you on a flashed mod?
Running Deck's on my Evo 4g for a while now. It's an AOSP rom, and I get awesome battery life with it. I can easily get through the while day with heavy use, and even longer it I'm careful with my batter like we talked about. I don't think I could ever go back to using a Sense rom.
Hi Guys
I'm currently on Stock Android w/ Franco Kernel, Rooted and as I was watching my battery level closer after the first few cycles, I noticed that Cell Standby was making up a huge amount of my battery consumption.
In BBS I personally don't see anything reflecting that, but as you see in the attached screenshots Cell Standby consumption is huge. I've never experienced something like that with my former phones. Could the reason be, that I have bad reception over the day?
Any sugestions what I could try to fix that?
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Hi Guys
I'm currently on Stock Android w/ Franco Kernel, Rooted and as I was watching my battery level closer after the first few cycles, I noticed that Cell Standby was making up a huge amount of my battery consumption.
In BBS I personally don't see anything reflecting that, but as you see in the attached screenshots Cell Standby consumption is huge. I've never experienced something like that with my former phones. Could the reason be, that I have bad reception over the day?
Any sugestions what I could try to fix that?
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I'm having the exact same issue. My cell standby is at 49%. I can't even go a full work day without charging it (something I didn't have to do with my nexus 4).
I've turned mobile data off for now to see what's going on. I have friends with Nexus 5s and they're getting pretty good battery life. I might even erase my phone and start over again to see what's going on.
That's weird. Have you tried reflashing the kernel? Not sure if that'll really matter or not, but it would be worth a shot.
What is your Phone Idle time showing in comparison to your screen on time and standby time? I'm just really surprised your WLAN is showing as off. I take it that's a fix related to the kernel too? Mine is always on no matter what I do (I'm running stock though).
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That's weird. Have you tried reflashing the kernel? Not sure if that'll really matter or not, but it would be worth a shot.
What is your Phone Idle time showing in comparison to your screen on time and standby time? I'm just really surprised your WLAN is showing as off. I take it that's a fix related to the kernel too? Mine is always on no matter what I do (I'm running stock though).
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Yes, I tried reflashing the Kernel, but I guess it's not kernel related. Tonight I fully charged it and took it off the charger, and left it there for four hours. (Screenshots attached) I have Mobile Data always on, and WLAN (as I've currently no WLAN router here) as well as Location Services always off.
Everything seems about right, just the Email-sync is a little bit off the charts in terms of wakelocks. The next things I'm going to try are disabling email sync, then switching radio, and if nothing helps, a complete restart from scratch with a Factory image.
I understand that when there is poor signal the cell standby is going to drain but this seems to be a bug. Once I return to good signal the cell standby shouldn't continue consuming battery. If I forget to put my phone into airplane mode before I go into the hospital the bug will drain it no matter if I get back into good signal area shortly after. If I get into airplane mode before the bad area and turn it the radio back on after leaving the area, my battery lasts fine the rest of the day.
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Does the hotword detection of google now always on or NFC checked on or LTE vs HSAP+ (while connected to wifi or not) or leaving wifi on even when not connected (like when out and about and not at home) affect the battery in a significant way?
Sorry if this is a stupid question I just wanted to clarify because Ive heard various conflicting things on some of these.
Thanks for any help to this question and if anyone has tested any of these and can give there feedback I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated!
LTE if you don't have a great signal will use significantly more battery then HSPA.
Hot word detection on will use a little battery but should only do so when the screen is on.
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Does the hotword detection of google now always on or NFC checked on or LTE vs HSAP+ (while connected to wifi or not) or leaving wifi on even when not connected (like when out and about and not at home) affect the battery in a significant way?
Sorry if this is a stupid question I just wanted to clarify because Ive heard various conflicting things on some of these.
Thanks for any help to this question and if anyone has tested any of these and can give there feedback I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated!
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All of those things will use more battery. I've turned off NFC and hotword detection because I don't really use them. To be honest, I still couldn't tell you if it makes a significant difference, but I'm happy with battery life.
Location settings off, NFC Off, LTE off when not needed, connect to wifi whenever possible, Lux auto brightness app, Battery doctor app, and install a custom kernel. That should help you out a lot with battery life.
NFC and hotword detection make such a negligible effect on battery life.
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FuMMoD said:
Location settings off, NFC Off, LTE off when not needed, connect to wifi whenever possible, Lux auto brightness app, Battery doctor app, and install a custom kernel. That should help you out a lot with battery life.
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I want location settings on with google now I dont want to cripple my phone completely or have to be switching things on and off constantly. But I will probably be switching off LTE for HSPA cause I seem to be getting a better signal and NFC off cause I dont really use it. I already have franco installed which I know will only improve in time!
How about Lux is it a low power process running in the background and do the savings outweigh that? and do you have the free or premium version?
Hey guys,
I'm a new Nexus 5 owner and I come from the HTC One S (which is known for a terrible battery). Although, my battery on the Nexus 5 is even worse compared to my setup on the HTC One S. With light use, I'm glad to get around 10-12 hours of it.
Is it worth rooting battery wise? I mean, are there roms / kernals that significantly improve battery life? I'm no gamer, but I do browse and use social media apps..
Thanks in advance!
Hi,
Flash another kernel or rom will not obviously improve your battery life. Battery life depends mainly of your use, apps, settings (like screen brightness, synchro), data signal quality, etc... and even more the rom has nothing to do with your battery life.
For example if you have an app with a ton of wakelocks, flashing another kernel or another rom will not do better... You use social media apps, in general the battery drain can come from them.
Maybe in first you should identify the cause of your battery drain, no? Post your battery history for example and use Better Battery Stats: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809.
You said "10-12 hours" but what about the sreen ON time?
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Hi,
Flash another kernel or rom will not obviously improve your battery life. Battery life depends mainly of your use, apps, settings (like screen brightness, synchro), data signal quality, etc... and even more the rom has nothing to do with your battery life.
For example if you have an app with a ton of wakelocks, flashing another kernel or another rom will not do better... You use social media apps, in general the battery drain can come from them.
Maybe in first you should identify the cause of your battery drain, no? Post your battery history for example and use Better Battery Stats: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809.
You said "10-12 hours" but what about the sreen ON time?
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Thanks for your comment.. I just purchased better battery stats to monitor my battery!
Just to add, rooting isn't necessary to flash a custom kernel. Rooting itself shouldn't change battery life at all
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pepdavies said:
Just to add, rooting isn't necessary to flash a custom kernel. Rooting itself shouldn't change battery life at all
Sent from my Nexus 5
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To get things straight.. flashing a custom kernel only requires the bootloader to be unlocked or?
That's correct
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To give an update on my current situation:
52% battery left (7 hours and 24 minutes since charge).
Screen on time: 1 hour, 54 minutes.
I would say you are in the average, but without knowing more details, hard to tell more...
Wi-Fi?
3G/4G?
Good signal quality?
Screen brightness?
Synchro?
Etc...
That extrapolates to almost 4 hours sot. That's not bad. Franco kernel can probably get you a bit more.
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Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
I would say you are in the average, but without knowing more details, hard to tell more...
Wi-Fi?
3G/4G?
Good signal quality?
Screen brightness?
Synchro?
Etc...
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WiFi's on, even in sleeping mode.. not scanning.. no message on 'open networks' & WiFi optimalisation's on too.
No bluetooth
NFC off
Location reporting & history off, Location mode is on 'battery save' mode.
4G turned off as is drained even more.. now usually in 3G with decent coverage I think
Screen brightness is between 15 - 20%, sleeping mode after 30 seconds and no day dreaming & default Nexus wallpaper.
Google Now's on
Optimised synchronisation
Most sounds disabled, mostly on 'quiet' mode.
Running ART
IVS IVRIS said:
WiFi's on, even in sleeping mode.. not scanning.. no message on 'open networks' & WiFi optimalisation's on too.
No bluetooth
NFC off
Location reporting & history off, Location mode is on 'battery save' mode.
4G turned off as is drained even more.. now usually in 3G with decent coverage I think
Screen brightness is between 15 - 20%, sleeping mode after 30 seconds and no day dreaming & default Nexus wallpaper.
Google Now's on
Optimised synchronisation
Most sounds disabled, mostly on 'quiet' mode.
Running ART
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[*]Location reporting & history off, Location mode is on 'battery save' mode. <-Turn this off. It doesn't save battery well. Call it a "feature".
[*]WiFi's on, even in sleeping mode.. not scanning.. no message on 'open networks' & WiFi optimalisation's on too. <-Go under Advanced in Wi-Fi options (hit the little menu button) and there's an extra setting to scan while Wi-Fi is off, turn this off.
Those two things plus turning off the "Ok Google" may help. Also do you have the camera battery usage bug?
You're getting average times for your setup.
If you want to get more, check out the battery thread and read through it a bit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509132
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Battery life
IVS IVRIS said:
Hey guys,
I'm a new Nexus 5 owner and I come from the HTC One S (which is known for a terrible battery). Although, my battery on the Nexus 5 is even worse compared to my setup on the HTC One S. With light use, I'm glad to get around 10-12 hours of it.
Is it worth rooting battery wise? I mean, are there roms / kernals that significantly improve battery life? I'm no gamer, but I do browse and use social media apps..
Thanks in advance!
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You can check how much battery life your device has left by doing one of the following options:
Use Quick Settings or View the battery graph.
However root manually if possible because rooting itself doesn't change battery life at all. Bettery life generally depends on our Apps that we are using on our Smart phones.
Roms / Kernals will not improve your battery life.
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
Battery life is relatively unchanged in mine after the mm update. Easily make it through the entire day with 50-60% battery life remaining. I disabled a whole bunch of the bloatware (and will be removing it entirely when I decide to root my phone) and battery life is wonderful.
shaels said:
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
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Mine has been fine, slightly better with doze/disabling packages. Do a back up through Smart Switch and try a factory reset. I do that every time I update.
I'm envious of your successes. I'll give it a bit to see if it stabilizes, if not I'll use SS and reset/restore.
shaels said:
I'm envious of your successes. I'll give it a bit to see if it stabilizes, if not I'll use SS and reset/restore.
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I will recommend "Package Disabler Pro" to disable bloatware. Costs but is worth the cash.
Mine went through on Thursday and so far battery appears ok.
I have noticed however the lighting is messed up all over. Play books night light feature is broken and dims it to unrecognizable levels. I have to go into the settings again when in the book and disable auto lighting and manually raise it. When back at the list of books screen, the brightness drops to nearly off again.
Also it seems the notifications when listening to music are much louder. I could listen to mp3s via poweramp while reading a book and get an SMS text and itd be a light little sound. this is playing louder than my music and very annoying.
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
jasong127 said:
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.
All thoughtful replies. I don't have Location on ever, unless I'm using Waze, so that's a non-issue for me. Allowing WiFi to sleep when the phone is off, while I'm only connecting via WiFi, effectively makes my smartphone a dumb phone, until I wake it up, right? The fact that I need to start changing around "normal" settings on my phone, to lesser benefiting ones, to get back to the battery life I had before I installed MM is pretty silly. I've been hoping things would settle down, but they don't. I can try using SmartSwitch later to see if that helps.
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1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.
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No, it will connect LTE and then switch to wifi. LTE use more battery life, the network switch uses a bit, then finally you are into wifi. If your phone wakelocks or alarms(location ping, play service ping, etc) it will use more battery than wifi always on. Personally, I've tested both to make sure a wifi wakelock bug hasn't been introduced as I do with every update and play service update(it does happen and it's horrible drain). I see more savings always on.
If you meant you disable mobile network, yes, dumb phone, text and call. Also, I disable mobile usually always as I piggyback off work cell at work, and always wifi at home. I only toggle mobile data when necessary.
jasong127 said:
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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I believe this is what most people encounter. Most dont have unlimited data and use WIFI always. I think by default, WIFI is set to always on, even when phone screen is off. WIFI will rape your battery. I did my own tests with wifi vs 4g and just by using my 4g all the time, battery quadrupled. Many argued that WIFI uses less battery, and i have the best of the best wifi router/modem/isp with 5ghz ac excellent coverage. Not the case for me. I have unlimited and just stick with that now. Battery life on MM has been great for me.
My battery life is 4x better. I couldn't be happier.
shaels said:
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
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Been on MM for about five days now and my battery blows, so much worse than what it was!
musicfreak190 said:
My battery life is 4x better. I couldn't be happier.
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Mine is exactly 4 times worse
Battery the same.
But I have to tap the screen harder to chose app.
Going to factory reset and start clean, been a while.
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Has Verizon released any new updates to patch the issues with Marsh Mellow update
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Has Verizon released any new updates to patch the issues with Marsh Mellow update
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Not that I know of.
Though they JUST released Marshmallow. Verizon is probably still patting themselves on the back even though they released several months late. What I'm waiting for is a miraculous root.
I never use my phone the same amount every day, so it's hard to say exactly what kind of battery life I get, but I have noticed that it has improved. I would usually be near 15% by 10pm after coming off charger at 6am. Now I float around 25% at 10pm. So it seems to be better, even if only slightly so.
I see a minimal improvement, but I was doing what I could without root prior to sleep unnecessary crap.
Weird, when thye MM updated happened, up until the last two days, I was getting much better battery life under MM. But the past few days my battery life has declined dramatically to the point that I am not getting through a day of minimal use. Screen only 2%, Android OS consuming 76%.
I just fiddled with settings (Changed Wifi sleep to While Charging; Turned off wifi scanning). I am going to also try a reboot to see if that helps. I swear it started just about the time I started looking at Nexus 6p replacements).
Update, rebooting, and removing a few more useless apps and battery life has returned.