[Q] Google Music File Limit - General Questions and Answers

Hey everyone
In order to test Google Music me and my friends put together a massive amount of music files. Some of them were already in Googles databse, so no direct upload was necessary, some of them were not so that i had to upload them.
So, now to the "funny fact". Google Music says now, there is no more space for me to upload music files. But the website and the android app shows me "only" 18077 files of 20.000 max.
So, can anyone tell me, why Gmusic stopps the upload even the limit hasn't reached yet? The trash is empty and the only thing I did was to upload 10 albums on an other gmusic account (normale ones, so 10-12 songs per cd).
hope you have an idea
best regards

Music
Hi guys,
The Google Play Music application supports audio files in numerous formats - including .mp3, .m4a (iTunes application AAC, DRM-free), FLAC, and OGG Vorbis - so you can copy music to your device that you’ve purchased from online stores, CDs you own, and other sources.

For some reason, some users reported that they were able to upload more than 20,000 songs. The numbers varies from one to another. So you're one of those unlucky ones I guess

So, today i deleted some albums of my gmusic account... just to look what will happens...
I deleted about 100 Songs, moved the "new" albums from my synced folder away and then back... 2 albums were uploaded, then again, the message or warning came back, i have too many songs in my account...
ok, so i deleted 200 more. 200!! and deleted them in the junk too... account shows 200 less... i moved again just one album into the sync folder, refreshed gmusic, restartet the upload app... but again, too many songs in my library... what the hell is that?

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Duplicate Songs in Google Music

I recently started using Google Music. Previously I had all my music files on the internal memory of my INC. I had just copy / pasted them from iTunes but now it looks like Google will sync that music automatically when I download new music to iTunes.
But I noticed quite a number of duplicate songs recently. Is Google placing duplicated songs on the SD Card somewhere? Should I delete the music folder from the internal memory or is it maybe just a fluke for these songs? Doesn't seem to be across the board though.
Google music beta has been pretty buggy so far. As for your duplicated, it might be because your tags don't match between what's in the cloud and what's on your phone. I guess you could remove them from your phone just to see what happens. Worst case is that you have to reload them.
Sent from my HTC Incredible
Use Amazon's cloud and be done with it already.
I had the same issue. Here's what google said:
Albums stored locally on your Android devices may appear more than once
during uploading. After uploading has completed, Music Beta will recognize
and combine these album listings.
If an album is appearing multiple times in your library after uploading
has completed, this is likely because the 'Album Artist' field in the
metadata for your album's listings is either blank or appears differently
for each listing.
To combine these listings, simply edit the 'Album Artist' field so that
it's identical for each album listing. Instructions for editing metadata
can be found in the Music Beta help center at
I had the same issue so I uninstalled the program uploaded all my music and deleted off my sd card and internal memory and have had no issues...but do remember it is still in beta.
OP did you solve the problem or does it still remain?
im seeing kind of the same issue over here, except mine is duplicating songs in playlists in google music. i have 0 gigs of songs on my phone and all the music is coming from the same itunes. It will just put the playlist of songs twice in the playlist. kind of annoying.
i had the same problem with some albums i had on SD card.
all i did erase the albums from card.
I am having the problem were duplicates are showing on the web version of Google Music. I have no duplicate songs in iTunes and they all have the correct metadata. Most of the duplicated songs appear to be ones I purchased or got for free from Google.
I do not want to use Amazon cloud as it's not free.
If you have all the music on your couch with music manager attached, if deleted off Google Music online. Would music resync with music manager?
Ik. randomness
and did you already try with another ROM if the same happens to you?
Bi-Directional syncing is also a huge problem on google music.
sharper4 said:
I recently started using Google Music. Previously I had all my music files on the internal memory of my INC. I had just copy / pasted them from iTunes but now it looks like Google will sync that music automatically when I download new music to iTunes.
But I noticed quite a number of duplicate songs recently. Is Google placing duplicated songs on the SD Card somewhere? Should I delete the music folder from the internal memory or is it maybe just a fluke for these songs? Doesn't seem to be across the board though.
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Found a solution and posted it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2164765

Best way to manage music?

Anyone know a good way to manage music with a g2x??
I have well over 2k songs on my itunes. I have them all on my g2x, but it seems to have a poor music managing system.
Songs/Artists/Playlists are duplicated many times, playlists duplicate the songs within them sometimes, etc.
I'm wondering if theres a good software to manage the music on my phone?
Something comparable to itunes preferrably
I just want to be able to make playlists on my computer without them duplicating on my phone.
I've tried doubletwist, itunesagent (which doesn't copy playlists), and even winamp.
i'm just using Google Play
I'm just using Google Play Music as well and transfer my files via mass storage. Now I use the cloud for Google Play Music and just keep a few albums on my SD card. I have no problems with duplicates or any other issues.
You have to get a tag editor and
Make sure there filled out right... iTunes fixes them but the music players don't.
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Kplaylist + MediaMonkey + Google Play
All my music is on an a private web server that can stream all my music. I stopped using iTunes a long time ago, but all my music is on this web server.
http://www.kplaylist.net/
If you can setup an Apache Service with PHP, you will love this app. Its the only thing I use and get my music anywhere.
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MediaMonkey
http://www.mediamonkey.com/
I only use this to update the ID Tags of all my songs and add the album picture from the web. Its a bit tricky, but what I do is, when I decide I want to add and album to Google Play I tag and add the picture album then upload them.
I have like 40 gigs of music, and slowly have converted to Google play. I fix the tags and albums as I go. Its worked so far
Sometimes the picture or the album name comes out wrong, have to re-upload or manually correct it once its inside Google. It happens sometimes, especially if mediamonkey can't find the rare song online.
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Google Play
If done right, all the songs will be properly tagged and the album picture inside. Its running better now then when it was called (Google Music). Used to crash alot. The only decision you have is "Make available Offline"
In the end, when its nicely organized, I use Google Play way way more.
yoo992 said:
I've tried doubletwist, itunesagent (which doesn't copy playlists), and even winamp.
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I've been using Doubletwist and it copies my playlist from itunes just fine
I use Banshee Media Player. I have it set up to sync one specific playlist. It works in one-click and it even converts my FLAC files on the fly to V9 mp3! Even better, even though I have it set to sync one playlist, it keeps track of which tracks belong to other playlists too. I use it on Ubuntu but I think the sync options work on Windows too.
Edit: It also keeps my media tagged, downloads album art and sorts the files into an [Artist]>[Album] folder structure.

Music Storage

What is the best to store music. I have double twist, but it is a pain to sync my checked songs in Itunes. I am coming from a iphone, had one since 08. I also uploaded most of my music I listen to to Google Music. Is that the easiest? I am afraid with double twist it will sync all of my music. Also will stock music app play songs that I have on Google Music?
Thank
I have DoubleTwist, but I only use it for AirPlay, not for syncing, so I can't speak on that part.
The Play Music (Google Music) player is the only player that will stream your Google Music from the cloud. However, within Play Music, you can download songs to your device. At that point you need a third-party app to convert the downloaded Google Music songs to regular mp3's for use with other apps like the stock app or DoubleTwist.
Sorry, I can't recall what any of these third-party apps are called, but if you google around, you should be able to find them.
If you want to keep music on your phone (which is of course handy for when you don't have a data connection), I use Syncr, which seems to have an easier interface, and less buggy than DoubleTwist. I just dump the music I want into playlists, and sync the playlists to my phone using Syncr.
Haven't used Doubletwist in a while. But when I did, it seemed that more times than not, it would try to synch all my music to my phone, regardless of the fact that I indicated to only sync certain playlists. Since I have something like 40+ GB of music, it lock up my computer, and fail to sync successfully anyway (since there is obviously not enough storage on the phone). Then I would have to start over synching, and on subsequent attempts, it would finally do what I wanted.
I find the solution I use to be quite useful and actually pretty awesome.
I've uploaded my entire music collection to Google Music. Yeah, it takes a while, but just leave your computer on for a couple of nights and it will finish.
Next, I made sure everything was well-organized. I only keep complete albums (like buying a CD), so sometimes there will be a song or two that need to be manually grouped into the album. Do this!
And finally, go into the Google Music app for your phone, select a few albums, and make them 'Available Offline'. It takes a minute or so to get an entire album transferred onto the device. Make sure you do this while on WiFi.
Since my phone can't hold all of my music, I select about 10 albums or so- more than I can realistically listen to while I'm out, and swap in/out albums when I get new ones or want to listen to something else.
It's also pretty useful if you stumble into anywhere with WiFi and want to listen to your entire music collection- something a lot of us cannot do even with 32GB phone storage. You can also make some more music 'Available Offline' when you find WiFi out in the wild.
This has worked wonders for me so far.
So does Google music not let others tie into their service? Big disappointment IMO, I am coming from windows phone and iPhone that have these app silos. Android has a file system and I thought this could be avoided.
I want to use the new HTC Music Hub and at first thought that it was going to tie-in from Google music and bring down all of my music as well as tie-in with local music I have on the phone. Which I am realizing is not the case. All the HTC Music Hub is going to do it let me launch Google music... Disappointing
New question though. Can Google Music two-way sync from the phone? Let's say I download an album from the internet onto my phone. If I put it in a certain folder will it sync? or is there an option in Google Music to upload music from the phone to Google Music?
And last but not least, can the Google Music player play music stored locally on the phone?
You can only add songs to Google Music from your computer, for now.
If you make music 'Available Offline', it becomes stored locally and you can listen to it without an internet connection.
You cannot use Google Music to listen to non-Goolge Music locally stored music.
danada said:
I find the solution I use to be quite useful and actually pretty awesome.
I've uploaded my entire music collection to Google Music. Yeah, it takes a while, but just leave your computer on for a couple of nights and it will finish.
Next, I made sure everything was well-organized. I only keep complete albums (like buying a CD), so sometimes there will be a song or two that need to be manually grouped into the album. Do this!
And finally, go into the Google Music app for your phone, select a few albums, and make them 'Available Offline'. It takes a minute or so to get an entire album transferred onto the device. Make sure you do this while on WiFi.
Since my phone can't hold all of my music, I select about 10 albums or so- more than I can realistically listen to while I'm out, and swap in/out albums when I get new ones or want to listen to something else.
It's also pretty useful if you stumble into anywhere with WiFi and want to listen to your entire music collection- something a lot of us cannot do even with 32GB phone storage. You can also make some more music 'Available Offline' when you find WiFi out in the wild.
This has worked wonders for me so far.
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This is exactly what I'm thinking of doing if I get the One X. Some questions...
Is is simple to swap in/out albums for offline listening? (When on wi-fi.)
So the music is stored locally when downloaded for offline listening? For the One X would that mean the 'phone storage'? (The 9.8 available for media.)
Any idea how long it would take over wi-fi if I hypothetically chose 6 GB of music to download for offline listening?
How well organized is your music once you use the Google Music app? Any bugs? (Songs missing, artist listed twice, anything else.)
Thanks in advance for your answers.

[Q] Google Play Music: Kept Music

I don't like the Google Play Music application much, so basically what I was wondering was if I could play kept google play music songs and albums in another player such as PowerAmp somehow. From what I have seen there is no way to do this because google incorporates some sort of DRM in all of their music files, which makes sense, because they don't want people just copying and pasting kept music files that they didn't actually buy. I have determined the location of the saved music files to be in "root\data\data\com.google.android.music\files\music" if I am in the wrong spot please let me know. I have pulled the saved music files (MP3's) from this location but can not manage to play them in any music player. I also tried running them through a converter just for the hell of it but the converter instantly crashes when I try converting the file. I don't think there is anything that can be done about this but if anybody has any ideas please let me know!
not possible. stop trying
I don't think you can get them from your phone but you can most definitely download the songs to your computer as regular mp3's. You can then put them on your phone and use any media player.
on a desktop/laptop, open google play music. pick what songs you want, then press download. the downloaded songs that you got using google play music desktop can now be played in other music applications.
Even still...if you have not purchased the song, you cannot download it. All of the music in "My Library" that you've uploaded can be dl'd but not songs you randomly hear and "Add to my Library"
Unless I'm doing something wrong....
You can not download music on a pc unless you have purchased that music. On the android application there is however and option to download music to the device in a hidden location (root\data\data\com.android.google.music\files\music). You can download them, but like I said they are encrypted or have some sort of DRM incorporation so you can not play them anywhere but within the play music application. I don't think it's possible. I just wanted a few opinions on it.

Media Library managment options for music and video

I am running Bubbleupnp and i love it.. streaming music to my TV from my computer controlled by my phone is amazing.
a am also running XBMC for movies and TV shows.
So my question is.
What library options do i have.
options i am looking for
I would like the library to gather album and artists data much like xbmc does
I would also like a library that could check the songs DNA to find the correct name
I would like the library to be able to edit the files data to include artist/album/genre info ect.
I would LOVE a library that will delete duplicate files
I would like the library to edit the names of music to just the song title
I would like the library to manipulate the source library by changing music folders around and putting every song by the same artist in the same folder.
i currently have over 10,000 songs and only about 5000 of them are in folders. some folders are albums, some are artists, some are compilation albums (like "Misc Dubstep") and some songs i have edited by cutting off intros or long stupid outros thus removing all artist data but the songs are still recognizable by DNA...
My library has been growing and getting more and more chaotic over the last 10 years or so. its become too much of a task to even attempt this myself.
I know there are programs that will do what i want... just not sure if there is an all inclusive Library Managment software outthere that i am unaware of. i would love to stop seeing [ ? ] icons when i stream upnp music to my phone or tv
What are my options
OK found some software and tried it out
MediaMonkey seemed good up front.. thought i had it with that one.. turned out that its more manual then automated. I clicked a file to edit and clicked on tracks with unknown artists... went to the search and hit apply.. and it changed teh album cover art, album, and artist to about 60 songs but put them all as Bach Cello suites.
after some research i did it wrong but the right way is more tedius. clicking one track at a time and updating the info you want.
so.. screw that program.
Then i found a program by accident when looking for help with the MediaMonkey called MusicBrainz
this is where its at...
now.. i dont know that it does Videos such as movies but i am more interested in the music..
So opened up and pretty straight forward..
i went into my music folder and searched for all files over 1mb (Size>1MB in the search) and moved all my music out of its containing folders
I then scrapped the leftover folders and random junk left.
Set MusicBrainz to the input folder
set the output folder to my normal music location
and set it to create folders with artist names and label the sons with only their song titles (%Artist%/%title%)
it took about 2 hours to run through the music and update the id3 tags
then that was all done the completed items go into the right pane of the program.
i selected all of them and hit save.. and boom.. its been pumping out folders for about
2 hours now with just the Artist name and no album folders. the way i like it.
I would recommend if your computer is not top notch do not try to do 10,000+ songs at once... my comp runs about 3grand 32gigs of ram and a quad core4ghz and my computer was boggin at times. also the program stopped responding if i messed with it too much.. i would recommend doing it in batches of 500 or 1000 at a time.
hope this helps someone else.. was super easy

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