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Is the RC33 Upgrade responsible for sms/calls Buggy Behavior?

I am in Baltimore Maryland... Ever since i upgraded to jf's rc33 firmware, i get aloooooooooot of " undelivered message" notifications. This never used to happen to me, maybe once a week with 2 messages. In most cases people ask me why the F am i triple texting, and it happens when i try to resend the messages and the phone keeps saying "message cannot be delivered". Is anyone else experiencing this? In maryland only perhaps?
I have tried keeping message count below 100, reseting the phone seems to be the only quick fix. One other thing, when i try to make phonecalls every now and then, the **** just hangs up as soon as the call is placed and when i receive a call sometimes and i press the answer key, it takes about 10 seconds to answer and continues to ring. suggestions buddys?

Make sure you delete your SMS threads if they get too long. Typically once threads get past 150 they are slow and take a while to open. If you are using the stock sms try chomp seems to handle threads better. I have JFRC33 and have not issues.

My wife and I have the exact same problem with the phone hanging up and not picking up a call for while. And dropped calls - almost always. And we live in the heart of Dallas.

yea the g1 is a nice phone, but either android or t-mobile blows..
every now and then people call me, and i get a missed call, but the phone never rings,
and sometimes when i call people, they pick up but one of us cant hear the other,
and sometimes, the g1 will ring, but when i press the green button to anwser, the phone continues to ring
im getting pissed off,
rc29, rc33 both fail to work

I am in Baltimore as well, and I have JF1.42 RC33, without any of the problems you have. Sorry, can't be of more assistance, but maybe your SIM card is old and needs to be replaced? I have heard of them causing issues sometimes.

yup same thing is happening to my phone. it is really starting to piss me off. i thought it was cuz i dropped my phone but i guess others have been getting the same thing. i hope theres a fix for this

I had this happen to me about two days ago. SMS failed to send to anyone. I restarted the phone and havent had a problem since. They are still developing this unit, so try to be patient.

i've had some calling issues recently, both making and receiving.
sometimes when receiving a call, i'll pick up and my phone will reboot, and take absolutely ages to boot up. and when making calls the other end will sometimes go completely dead and it's the same for the other person.
only happens very occasionally but it's happened with a few landline calls and different mobile networks. only been since RC33 too. not saying it's related but it is kinda annoying.

Wipe fixes all

unless the problem's firmware/hardware related, then it does **** all.

Wipe and wait
Could be too many apps eating memory on the G1 and/or buggy apps crashing buggy android. The best you can do is download mybackup from market, back up all data +sms+ageda etc, Wipe the phone. An dont install a single app from the market in 1-3 days and see if problems dissapear.
Personally, i never install any app who claims to "start at boot" Never. MyBackup is one of them and always delete it after backup. i may be wrong but i thing resident in memory apps and apps who starts at boot degrades performance over time, because many of them are buggy so i avoid using them. Well my phone runs fine with this.

buggy behavior
well i think this happen when phone memory is full, try to delete least used applications, clear applications cache like browser and youtube , then do a reset.

Ive had the issue more than a few times where the phone will start ringing but the screen will stay dark, i wait until it turns on to see who is calling after a few rings and then it wont respond to pressing the answer button unless i press it a few times, and even then it takes its sweet time answering. Ive dropped plenty of calls due to this, and yes it has only started happening after the radio firmware/RC33 update.

unrafa said:
Could be too many apps eating memory on the G1 and/or buggy apps crashing buggy android. The best you can do is download mybackup from market, back up all data +sms+ageda etc, Wipe the phone. An dont install a single app from the market in 1-3 days and see if problems dissapear.
Personally, i never install any app who claims to "start at boot" Never. MyBackup is one of them and always delete it after backup. i may be wrong but i thing resident in memory apps and apps who starts at boot degrades performance over time, because many of them are buggy so i avoid using them. Well my phone runs fine with this.
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Oh... don't even start my on "MyBackup"... I kept trying to figure out why my phone was lagged so much when I was going back to home screen. Uninstalled apps that were running all the time one by one. MyBackup and Phonebook were 2 biggest memory hogs. Phone runs oh so smooth after I unistalled those 2. Backgrounds app still autostarts for some reason but I like that app too much to uninstall and it does not cause as many problems.

bleomycin said:
Ive had the issue more than a few times where the phone will start ringing but the screen will stay dark, i wait until it turns on to see who is calling after a few rings and then it wont respond to pressing the answer button unless i press it a few times, and even then it takes its sweet time answering. Ive dropped plenty of calls due to this, and yes it has only started happening after the radio firmware/RC33 update.
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I still have this problem after another wipe..
why does android suck...
i wish tmo would come out with a winmo 3g phone, so much more stable and with more features =(.. i miss my shadow now

I started running into the issue of the phone not actually responding to the "answer call" button, but found it was only happening when I had auto-rotate set up with the DroidSans tools and the display had been rotated to landscape. It seemed like it would start trying to switch to portrait, then lock itself up long enough for the call to go to voicemail, then flip to portrait and be responsive again. I haven't had the problem since I disabled auto-rotate.
However, on the "too many apps" thing, I've suddenly started noticing that my phone will start a good 15-20 apps on startup, including things like AK Notepad. I didn't notice if this was something that started with RC33 or if I've done something else to make this happen...does this happen with anyone else?

I have had a similar issue with my g1 dropping calls and will sometimes see a force close while on a call as well. I did a wipe and did not enable auto rotation and so far it seems to be running more smoothly.

Been there done that...I am having the same issues and it is beginning to drive me nuts. I make heavy heavy use of my phone on a daily basis. Dropping calls where they just go to la la land...or the phone rings and I cannot answer for about 10 to 15 seconds, the phone just reboots for no reason... stupid things like that. I have RC33 rooted, radio upgraded with JF 1.41 and this has been happening daily about 3 times or so a day. I love my G1 and I have a hard time parting with it...I am trying to be patient while it develops but...I am about to go get the 8900 curve...

I forgot to mention...I had to do a wipe on my phone also due to a problem with the accelerameter and that did not help this issue either.
-Tonloc69

it seems to me that it is tmob related, since i`ve had that b4 on my lil nokia phone.

Help Please

I have a strange problem with my Hero that is hard to describe. Even before I rooted my phone I had this problem which leads me to believe it could possibly be a hardware malfunction. Anyways..
The problem is that over time after a complete wipe and flash of a custom rom (I've tried several) that my phones slowly deteriorates. It will be running fast and great for a week or two and then its starts to slow down to the point where it is completely unusable and I am forced to wipe and flash again. While its acting this way I have tried killings tasks, emptying cache, hard resets... every simple solution I can think of....
The other odd thing is that I use my phone very lightly. I only install 4-6 apps and those are the basics like pandora and such...
And I'd like to add that maybe I'm wrong about my phone acted this way when I had 1.6 official on it. It's been awhile.... so maybe I corrupted something when I rooted my phone for the first time?
Really I wish you could see the way my phone acts... its ridiculous . I would take a youtube video of it if I wasnt too lazy too. Crazy stuff like it taking a whole 30 seconds to a minute for a unlock pattern to finally go through, Or how when I try and type a phone number its like 3 or 4 presses "behind" as I type ( and im not typing quickly) or when I try to scroll through my contact list it just gets stuck and then finally it "catches up" and stutters all the way down to the bottom because of how many swipes I attempted.....
...help

have you tried.....?
Have you tried to run an RUU of eith 1.6 or 2.1? if you runn an RUU it will clear out any lerking "software" issues and then just re-root and try that out then try a custom rom after that.

Try Autokiller from the market. Once you install it, run it. Set the autokiller settings to something like Optimum or Strict (if that doesn't work for you, try Aggressive).
This will adjust the low memory killer settings to a more aggressive number. This, hopefully, will help.
smash58 said:
I have a strange problem with my Hero that is hard to describe. Even before I rooted my phone I had this problem which leads me to believe it could possibly be a hardware malfunction. Anyways..
The problem is that over time after a complete wipe and flash of a custom rom (I've tried several) that my phones slowly deteriorates. It will be running fast and great for a week or two and then its starts to slow down to the point where it is completely unusable and I am forced to wipe and flash again. While its acting this way I have tried killings tasks, emptying cache, hard resets... every simple solution I can think of....
The other odd thing is that I use my phone very lightly. I only install 4-6 apps and those are the basics like pandora and such...
And I'd like to add that maybe I'm wrong about my phone acted this way when I had 1.6 official on it. It's been awhile.... so maybe I corrupted something when I rooted my phone for the first time?
Really I wish you could see the way my phone acts... its ridiculous . I would take a youtube video of it if I wasnt too lazy too. Crazy stuff like it taking a whole 30 seconds to a minute for a unlock pattern to finally go through, Or how when I try and type a phone number its like 3 or 4 presses "behind" as I type ( and im not typing quickly) or when I try to scroll through my contact list it just gets stuck and then finally it "catches up" and stutters all the way down to the bottom because of how many swipes I attempted.....
...help
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tkirton said:
Try Autokiller from the market. Once you install it, run it. Set the autokiller settings to something like Optimum or Strict (if that doesn't work for you, try Aggressive).
This will adjust the low memory killer settings to a more aggressive number. This, hopefully, will help.
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I agree. I use auto killer on aggressive with CM6 and it runs great forever

My phone does the exact same thing!
I first really noticed it when I flashed the official sprint 2.1 update. I think it has something to do with the buildup of cache on the phone.
I have been running CM6 for a little over a month and have recently noticed it getting slightly hung up at times, but nothing compared to how it was with the official 2.1 update. Also, remember that CM6 does not have Sense, which can really slow down the phone.
I also I agree with you that it seemed like my phone did not do this on 1.6, but it has been quite sometime since I flashed 2.1.
Does anyone know what really causes this exponential slow down; to the point where the phone is barely useable?

hm... I will try autokiller.....thanks for the advice
as for CM6..... I've tried not using sense UI but to me its my favorite part of my phone... for example the facebook/twitter/flickr integration with my contact list is invaluable.... is there a replacement for this?
is anyone else able to add anything else?

smash58 said:
hm... I will try autokiller.....thanks for the advice
as for CM6..... I've tried not using sense UI but to me its my favorite part of my phone... for example the facebook/twitter/flickr integration with my contact list is invaluable.... is there a replacement for this?
is anyone else able to add anything else?
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Try Zen-Rom. It has all that you are looking for and is very fast and stable.
Sent from my Zen-Rom Hero!

Auto killer is the way to go. I found Aggressive setting too much for my tastes; if I was on a webpage, then went to the home screen for something else and opened back up the browser, it would have to reload it because it was killed. I set it on optimum, and get no slow down, and can still truly multi task.

chefthomas99 said:
Try Zen-Rom. It has all that you are looking for and is very fast and stable.
Sent from my Zen-Rom Hero!
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Or NFX-Hero. I'm not a Sense guy, but I've experimented with that ROM, and it was the fastest Sense 2.1 IMO.

Just curious but does pandora have a cache file on your sdcard? I had an app that was reading and writting to a cache on my sdcard and it would slow my phone down a lot. When your phone slows try ditching some of your apps and see if maybe one could be responsible for it, if it is there are tons of options different apps that do the same thing.

SK4G Software FLAWED!

What the hell is going on. I tried resetting and everything, even exchanged the device and the new one is doing the same thing! Also vibrating and force closing it is getting on my nerves! The followig seems to happen after a while I am TIRED of having to turn of my phone and turn it back on! ~ I go to play a .mp3 it says " FIle type not supported"...My .mp3 ringtone does not work the phone just vibrates the selected ringtone doesnt work. I got too take a picture or record video it says "Camera Failed"....I get a visual voicemail....the "play" button is grayed out and I have to turn off phone turn it BACK On just to check my voicemail. Also occassioally my sms wont work either. I turn my phone off and on every morning and throughout day I notice this and its getting REAL annoying !

Well first off, this isn't a software flaw, this is specific to you, as we have many users here including myself who are using these phones daily without the issues you are describing.
You had said that the issue was with an mp3, can you upload that somewhere for us to test on our phones?
As far as the camera and visual voicemail, I've never heard of that issue before, perhaps you ended up with a bad phone again?

I am getting the frequent force close with messaging. I also have had problems with the camera and idk about the mp3 stuff I haven't put any ringtones on the phone yet. This is getting really annoying I agree.

I don't have any issues with mine? Have you guys done anything like rooting or flashing anything?

Nope, completely stock. The most I have done is take a screen shot lol.

hmm maybe some have a defect? It's not all SK4g's though, as some of us have no issues at all. I would suggest getting it replaced by T-Mobile, as this is a factory defect. not sure why that happened to you guys. has anyone else had these issues and found any fixes?

That's kinda tough the hearest t-mobile is like 4 hours from here /:
One of my friends who went with me on the trip to get the SK also got one and he says he's never gotten a force close so you may be right. But could it have anything to do with the amount of texts I send/receive? Because I have to admit it is pretty excessive. The failing to send messages when I am receiving one simultaneously is expected, but not the force closes in my opinion.

It shouldn't force close on you. I know mine fails to send every once in a while too, as I text a lot (kinda the reason I got the phone). failing to send isn't as big of a deal, as it notifies you and you just have to click resend. Not entirely sure why it's force closing though? I wonder if a logcat might help? if you have adb installed, you can try adb logcat and see what shows up when you force close? if we can find the issue there, it might be fixable from our end. all depends on where the flaw lies/if it's just a bad apk somehow or if there's an actual hardware issue or something.

I'll do a log next time there is a fc, I'm having another issue or it may be related, but this one is with WidgetLocker I believe. Sometimes when I go to unlock the phone it'll freeze up and then I dont know how to explain it, but it almost seems like it resets but it really doesnt. The phone will blackout for a little then the homescreen will pop up and service will gone for a while until the cards are read just like if I rebooted.

That might be a function of WidgetLocker, I used it on my old G1 and it always hung and black screened at me.

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That might be a function of WidgetLocker, I used it on my old G1 and it always hung and black screened at me.
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Yeah I know it does that from time to time, but on my previous phone it wouldn't do that reboot thing where it would lose connection then resend my latest text messages once it reconnected.

I'm not sure why it's doing that. My guess would be that the issues are caused because the SK4G doesn't use a normal lock screen. widgetlocker uses some modification of the system file for the lock screen, and perhaps it's not sure what to modify? just my 2 cents.

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I'm not sure why it's doing that. My guess would be that the issues are caused because the SK4G doesn't use a normal lock screen. widgetlocker uses some modification of the system file for the lock screen, and perhaps it's not sure what to modify? just my 2 cents.
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That's what I was thinking too, I'm gonna uninstall it for a bit and see if anything changes.

is anyone else having an issue with notification volume? everytime i reboot my SK, my notification volume gets pushed all the way down to nothing, so i don't get a sound notification for texts, emails, etc, until i move the notif. volume back up in my settings. i did root with the one-click for the Epic 4G.

This is a new UI so alot of the apps i.e. widgets you may put on will cause issues. If you like certain apps contact the dev so your device is supported correctly. Still to new to get mad at it till sum of the bugs get worked out. I did notice a couple of times when I left screen on in pocket on accident that when I go to use it again it doesn't respond to any touch but can move courser around till rebooted then its ok. If some don't already know the sk4g is almost the same as the epic. The sk4g is still a badass phone for 100bucks.

Same as the OP
I know this is a little old, but I've experienced the same problem as the OP so it seems they are not alone with this problem.
I actually tried two different newly formatted SD cards (because I thought it may have been the SD card), and still would have the problem. Then I actually did swap phones about a month ago and it seemed the problem would now take several days to resurface instead of several hours. And I could deal with that.
Since the OTA update about 2 weeks ago, the phone has been back on it's original BS as the OP posted and it's driving me nuts. I actually missed some emergency calls last night because the mp3 ringtone didn't work so I'm finding a solution to this issue today or trashing this phone.
My belief is that there is something interfering with the phone's ability to read the SD card for media. Because other apps I have that save to the SD card or read from it work fine. So I'm going to master reset it and not download any of my apps and see what happens when I set an mp3 ringtone. If it makes it through the day with no hiccups, I'll slowly add back one app at a time until hopefully I can find the culprit.
bipoler if you'd like, we can exchange via PM what apps we both have downloaded and see if we have some in common that may be problems.
I'll post back with any progress.

I've been having the problem with ringtones not working, just getting silence when I get a call. for me it seems to happen when I set a ringtone from the app Zedge, I don't think it happens when I use ringtones from the Android System, which would make sense if the issue is related to reading the sdcard. gonna go back to a system ringtone and see what happens today.

Yeah my phone had all those problems, but I installed the Lightning rom and all those problems went away, except for the ones about messages failing...I text A LOT

Lightning ROM
Thanks for that info on the Lightning Rom. I will check that out. Phone has been working flawlessly all day with the mp3 ringtone and no extra apps besides the master reset. I might give it until the morning before I start putting them back on.

On stock id install so many apps that ran on the background that id get delay from opening closing swiping and turning onthe phone.. so I wiped it installed a custom rom and just kept the essentials.. havnt had a problem since... well.. occasionly ill have to odi but that's on purpose
Sent from my SK4G

Programs sometimes crash without explanation

Hello. I have a problem with my new Mate 7.
It seems it doesn't matter what program is running, but sometimes they just crash without any warning or explanation.
For example, if I recieve a snap from someone and I open snapchat, it feels like a 50/50 chance if the program turns it self off and I come back to the start screen and every icon and stuff has to load all over again.
This happens way too often. It doesn't matter if it's a game or just the web browser. It's all the same.
Sometimes I have to open them and let them crash several time before I can use them. When they first work, they work properly and feels fast and smooth.
Anybody have similiar problems or knows a fix?

no ? no one?
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Hello. I have a problem with my new Mate 7.
It seems it doesn't matter what program is running, but sometimes they just crash without any warning or explanation.
For example, if I recieve a snap from someone and I open snapchat, it feels like a 50/50 chance if the program turns it self off and I come back to the start screen and every icon and stuff has to load all over again.
This happens way too often. It doesn't matter if it's a game or just the web browser. It's all the same.
Sometimes I have to open them and let them crash several time before I can use them. When they first work, they work properly and feels fast and smooth.
Anybody have similiar problems or knows a fix?
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So no one has an explanation?
wow what an amazing site this is! I have been waiting almost a month now.

well no one can see the logs or crash reports, wheter you rooted/use xposed/use a not supported sd card or nothing at all. Only thing most peaople coud tell you is to reset your phone but that's probably not the solution you're looking for. There are almost none experienced developers for the mate 7 here on xda but not even they could help you as there are so many factors which could cause the app to crash, it's just an Android thing :|

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well no one can see the logs or crash reports, wheter you rooted/use xposed/use a not supported sd card or nothing at all. Only thing most peaople coud tell you is to reset your phone but that's probably not the solution you're looking for. There are almost none experienced developers for the mate 7 here on xda but not even they could help you as there are so many factors which could cause the app to crash, it's just an Android thing :|
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I haven't done anything to the phone. It worked perfect the first 2 days I got it but then everything crashes.
I don't have an SD card yet.
I switched to Nova Luancher and it worked fine for a couple of days before everything crashes at random again.
There is no crash report when it happens but everything has to reload after it crashes. It doesn't matter what kind of app it is. Everything is just screwed up.

well I'm really sorry for you then..
just get a sd card and back up everything, then reset the phone. as long as there aren't that many apps n stuff to recover I would do it asap, I managed to softbrick my previous devices quite a few times and believe me, reinstalling all your apps after months of usage without an backup sucks even more..

Touchscreen unresponsive until locking and unlocking

First Ill describe my situation
I have a redmi 9a with ArrowOS12.1 rooted, but Ive seen this issue described for many many devices.
This video ilustrates how the issue presents itself pretty well
this happens mostly when the phone is working hard, when I have 2 or three apps runing at the same time, specially with youtube, the weird part is the phone keeps playing the video and doing the other proceses as if there is no issue, and I can lock/unlock and the touchscreen will work again for a while (commonly here I close applications becasue if not the touchscreen will malfunction again.
this alwasy fixes itself when locking and unlocking the phone, my phone had this issue pretty much since I bought it new from the store, it was not refurbished, I did not return it because I thought the phone was just slow at the time
Ive been looking for solutions for a long time already, most threads say its a hardware issue, but that doesnt make sense, if it was, why would it fix itself when locking unlocking, It never happens on a clean ROM install, but it starts to happen after installing applications.
Ive tried a few things
First I installed a custom ROM, and rooted the device, I installed a magisk module to improve touchpad sensitivity (by weareravens) and the issue did seem to get better, but it was still there.
I tried to modify build.prop, but reading a little on what those modifications did I dont think those wouldve helped, Im a total n00b, but I dont think its an issue of the screen not detecting my finger, its like "the phone kills the touchscreen event" when it gets overwhelmed and cant deal with it.
Ive been trying stuff today and activated show taps, and yeah, the phone doesnt even detect the taps, but I still tried some more and got to this posible solution https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/touchscreen-issues.2875959/post-68018932. it actually worked, the thing is the phone now is slower than before, but it clearly worked.
My question
My question is, is there a better solution for this, Im limiting the procesor to half it is able to do, is there any way to give priority to touchpad ideally on system config files so it doesnt just kill that event but kills background apps?