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So I found an off brand charger that fits my phone

I found a random charger in my room that fits my captivate. However I'm a little worried it might damage it, the Samsung charger says it outputs 5v - .7A and the charger I found outputs 4.5v - 800mA.
I figure the lower voltage isn't a problem but the higher amp output worries me a little. Could anyone who knows more about electricity than me tell me if it would be safe to use? My Samsung cord is really loose and falls out easy, the other one is nice and tight :-D

I don't think it's a big deal...
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I use at least 3 different chargers on my phone. As long as it is micro usb. Use my daughter's nook charger, my wife's backflip charger, and an old LG charger at work. No problems at all. P.S. - This is not advice, just fyi.

you need not worry about the Amperage, the higher the better.
it doesn't mean its gonna give an output of 800ma all the time but upto 800ma depending on the load.
But if the voltage is considerably high/low I wouldn't recommend using it.
The high voltage could damage it whereas a low voltage may not charge the battery properly.
PS: That charger should work for you.
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what he said!

rohith hit it right on.
lower amperage is where you have a chance of damage, higher amperage means there is the ability to push more. As long as your devices get their draw requirement they are happy.
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Cool thanks, I did some quick Wikipedia research on volts and amps but wasn't 100%. Much appreciated :-D

If it doesn't have the same amperage as the stock charger, it will just charge slower. I charge off of my computer, some cheap Wal-Mart car charger (for GPS) and I don't have any issues.

[Q] Is the miniUSB non standard?

I tried plugging in my mini usb cables I have used for other phones but it does not fit. It looks like the opening on the MT is larger then the standard. Is anyone else noticing this?

I've used all my other ones fine. I use a blackberry mini usb to charge while I sleep, another blackberry cable to hook to my laptop at work, and the one that came with it at my home desktop. No problems for me.

All my chargers work fine as well.

It uses microusb, not mini. The standard ones work fine.
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It's not the volts, it's the amps....
Just as an FYI, one thing to watch out for even though the USB plug is standard is that the power output can be different on different chargers. 5v is the USB standard, but the amperage can vary. I think the Max is 1A for the USB (2?) spec, but I'm not sure if or what the Min amperage is. The V/A output should be listed on the charger.
The plug that comes with the mt4gs is 5V-1A. When I've tried charging phones (e.g. Blackberry) in the past with a 5V-.2A charger, it has worked extremely poorly (half charge after 12+hours). I would expect similar results with the mt4gs.

websculling is right. Additionally, using the wrong amperage to charge significantly decreases the number of charges you get out of your battery before it fails. Stick to chargers that have the amperage the battery was optimally designed to accommodate.

_atlien_ said:
websculling is right. Additionally, using the wrong amperage to charge significantly decreases the number of charges you get out of your battery before it fails. Stick to chargers that have the amperage the battery was optimally designed to accommodate.
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So amperage is what matters with USB charger compatibility and not the voltage?
My wife's old feature phone came with a micro-usb charger so I'm trying to figure out if it will damage by MT4GS or the MY3GS I handed down to my wife.

fallenturtle said:
So amperage is what matters with USB charger compatibility and not the voltage?
My wife's old feature phone came with a micro-usb charger so I'm trying to figure out if it will damage by MT4GS or the MY3GS I handed down to my wife.
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Both are important.
Too high of a voltage and you'll burn up the battery or damage the charging circuit.
Too low of an amperage (blackberry chargers) and you'll wear out the battery much more quickly. Trickling in power like that to these kind of batteries that weren't designed to handle it that way 'ages' the cells and reduces their already less then impressive lifespan.
Battery tech is better then it was even a few short years ago, but these kind of batteries in this small of a package are barely efficient enough to be useful. A few more years and things will be a lot better, but for the time being you should really try to care for your battery as best as you can and not abuse it.
I'll post the link here to the XDA battery writeup I linked to in both the anker and mugen threads later on when I get back to a real computer and am not using a phone app to browse the forums.
(Because babysitting a door you just painted and can't close right away is such an engaging task...lol)
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Blue6IX said:
Both are important.
Too high of a voltage and you'll burn up the battery or damage the charging circuit.
Too low of an amperage (blackberry chargers) and you'll wear out the battery much more quickly. Trickling in power like that to these kind of batteries that weren't designed to handle it that way 'ages' the cells and reduces their already less then impressive lifespan.
Battery tech is better then it was even a few short years ago, but these kind of batteries in this small of a package are barely efficient enough to be useful. A few more years and things will be a lot better, but for the time being you should really try to care for your battery as best as you can and not abuse it.
I'll post the link here to the XDA battery writeup I linked to in both the anker and mugen threads later on when I get back to a real computer and am not using a phone app to browse the forums.
(Because babysitting a door you just painted and can't close right away is such an engaging task...lol)
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This particular adapter is 5.1V and .7A.

fallenturtle said:
This particular adapter is 5.1V and .7A.
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That's not too far out of spec, but I would rather let my battery die then use it, personally. Finding an AC adapter that is in spec is very easy and very cheap.
Something to note here is the doubleshot does not have a hardware regulated charging circuit inside the phone - this is the reason why it was rough with the early unofficial ClockworkMod recoveries and the source of their charging issues.
Knowing there is no hardware failsafe, it makes it that much easier to do permanent damage to the battery, device or both.
Do what you think is best, but just want you to have as much information as possible to base your decision on.

Blue6IX said:
That's not too far out of spec, but I would rather let my battery die then use it, personally. Finding an AC adapter that is in spec is very easy and very cheap.
Something to note here is the doubleshot does not have a hardware regulated charging circuit inside the phone - this is the reason why it was rough with the early unofficial ClockworkMod recoveries and the source of their charging issues.
Knowing there is no hardware failsafe, it makes it that much easier to do permanent damage to the battery, device or both.
Do what you think is best, but just want you to have as much information as possible to base your decision on.
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That's good info to know. Do you know if Espresso is also lacking that hardware failsafe?

fallenturtle said:
That's good info to know. Do you know if Espresso is also lacking that hardware failsafe?
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Unsure - this is my first smart-phone, so I don't have the history of knowledge a lot of people don't realize they possess and am playing catch-up as quickly as I can.
I know a lot about this device, and the Nook Color, but anything else is pretty foreign to me at this time.

Blue6IX said:
Unsure - this is my first smart-phone, so I don't have the history of knowledge a lot of people don't realize they possess and am playing catch-up as quickly as I can.
I know a lot about this device, and the Nook Color, but anything else is pretty foreign to me at this time.
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Since you're new to Android, download and read this guide.
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Since you're new to Android, download and read this guide.
Sent via smoke signal.
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That looks like a pretty helpful download. I don't have any social media accounts anywhere, so sometime later on i'll subscribe to get the link.
Thanks, I really appreciate you sharing that!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669497
XDA write up on these types of batteries - the link I said i'd drop in this thread before.
Sorry, been busy around here, trying to find time to clean up all my loose ends.

[Q] Are rapid/ultra/boost chargers safe to use?

I have an LG GT540 Optimus with LG IP 400 N, 1500mAh/3.7v battery.
My stock USB charger is rated at 300mA and I have another USB charger for my headset which rates at 400mA.
I have seen couple of chargers on Amazon that can go up to 500mA and came across car chargers that can go to even 1000mA.
Are these chargers safe to use? Do they have over heating problems or chances of damaging the battery? Do they affect battery life? Have any of you used one of these?

More amps if fine, more voltage is bad.
i think of it like this..
amps are only available, the device will take what it needs.
volts are forced from the charger regardless of the device.

mercianary said:
More amps if fine, more voltage is bad.
i think of it like this..
amps are only available, the device will take what it needs.
volts are forced from the charger regardless of the device.
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Not really. A more than reasonable high current will cause over heating and possible melt-down.
High-voltage can be bad but almost all chargers use the USB voltage of 5-5.5V. So, it's fine.
Am just wondering if these high current chargers are safe and worth the money.

I would have thought the device had a limit to the Max current it would use to charge the battery avoid such things.
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mercianary said:
I would have thought the device had a limit to the Max current it would use to charge the battery avoid such things.
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LG phones do have an overcharge protector fuse. However, most fuses have a high value that will trip only if a current that will instantly break the device are detected. Plus, most fuses depend more on voltage.
However, even if the fuse doesn't break, a high current may damage due to heat and stuff indirectly.

[Q] charging the G2X with iphone charger?

HI everyone, hope thats the right forum
I have in my possession an iphone 4 charger, and since i dont have a dedicated G2X charger i was wondering if it is possible to charge the LG phone with Iphone charger?
thanks!

Well I thought iPhones use same charger as ipods which has a lot wider plug than an android charger. But if that's changed and it fits than plug it in and find out.
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I don't see it working unless you have some sort of an adapter. The G2x uses a micro USB port, and the iPhone uses a proprietary port.

please see bellow what charger i have. just need to plud the USB cord in the charger, since it have USB input.
so, technically it should work, but will this affect the battery in the long run? i mean, maybe the voltage\current values are different.

If it is a USB adapter then it should conform to USB standards and would then work. I think most of the previous responses assumed you meant a charger with the iPhone tip.
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The idea itself will not work, you can pick one up from Amazon or eBay for pretty cheap.
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Actually it's likely it won't work. Compare the amps on the G2x charger vs. the iPhone one (and just about any other generic USB charger). All the one's I have are different, lower, and don't work with the G2x. One of them, for some odd reason, makes the touchscreen not work at all when plugged in.

lilaliend said:
Actually it's likely it won't work. Compare the amps on the G2x charger vs. the iPhone one (and just about any other generic USB charger). All the one's I have are different, lower, and don't work with the G2x. One of them, for some odd reason, makes the touchscreen not work at all when plugged in.
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That is not correct, iphone charger will work technically, however it will reduce your battery life over time due to iphone charger are 1amp while g2x charger is 0.7Amp. Amps must meet to properly charge at the pace selected by manufacturer and battery specs. Lower amp takes time to charge, higher amp will charge fast but will reduce life.
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Mine is rate for 1AMP.
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nycelitemaster said:
That is not correct, iphone charger will work technically, however it will reduce your battery life over time due to iphone charger are 1amp while g2x charger is 0.7Amp. Amps must meet to properly charge at the pace selected by manufacturer and battery specs. Lower amp takes time to charge, higher amp will charge fast but will reduce life.
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How does it even fit? The ports are totally different. Perhaps an adapter?
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DON'T DO IT!!!! your phone will suddenly become just like everyone else's and you won't be able to do anything about it! your technology will become dumbed down, and you will becomea victim of conformity!
HEED MY WARNING!!!

Don't worry, using that iPhone charger/adapter won't turn your Android phone into an iPhone.
The iPhone charger/adapter is a 5 volt USB adapter, it will work. The battery will charge normally, there's a charge regulation circuit in the phone and protection circuitry in the battery which will ensure that the battery won't be screwed. I use a variety of USB power adapters which range in their current rating which is the maximum current the device is capable of supplying at the rated voltage (although the cheap adapters' output voltage decreases as the current output (load current) increases. The LG power adapter I have is rated at 4.8 Volts and 1 Ampere output. I use that, a USB port on my computer which is rated at 5 Volts and 1/2 Ampere (500 ma), and other 5V power adapters. I also use a variety of micro USB cables some of which are just for supplying power, not data, and they work too.

Core Memory said:
Don't worry, using that iPhone charger/adapter won't turn your Android phone into an iPhone.
The iPhone charger/adapter is a 5 volt USB adapter, it will work. The battery will charge normally, there's a charge regulation circuit in the phone and protection circuitry in the battery which will ensure that the battery won't be screwed. I use a variety of USB power adapters which range in their current rating which is the maximum current the device is capable of supplying at the rated voltage (although the cheap adapters' output voltage decreases as the current output (load current) increases. The LG power adapter I have is rated at 4.8 Volts and 1 Ampere output. I use that, a USB port on my computer which is rated at 5 Volts and 1/2 Ampere (500 ma), and other 5V power adapters. I also use a variety of micro USB cables some of which are just for supplying power, not data, and they work too.
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Good info.
Thanks
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thanks for the informative reply Core Memory.
didnt think using iphone charger will turn my android into iphone
so, bottom line - it is safe to use that charger.
Thanks!!

un.droid said:
thanks for the informative reply Core Memory.
didnt think using iphone charger will turn my android into iphone
so, bottom line - it is safe to use that charger.
Thanks!!
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Yes, it's totally safe. I've got a service manual for an LG phone which is substantially the same as the G2X and Optimus 2X which shows the battery charge circuitry. That circuitry regulates battery charging. Here's some more info regarding the battery:
90% = 4.05V +/- 0.05V
60% = 3.83V ditto
30% = 3.72V ditto
10% = 3.64V ditto
OFF = 3.42V
The battery voltage decreases according to the load current (milliamps) over a period of time. The higher the load current during a specific period of time, the quicker the battery voltage decreases; that's why it is important to have everything except the cell radio and the operating system off when the phone is in standby. There will be some background processes, etc., which are necessary too. Bluetooth, GPS, and WiFi quickly drain the battery. Automatic updating should be turned off always. If you're not expecting any calls, turn the phone off. Setup your phone to reroute received phone calls to your home or work phone, if the call is important they will leave a message, then pick up the messages at your convenience. Use a ROM and kernel which are known to have good battery life.

ive been useing the iphone dock to charge my g2x and it works fine lol no issue

1A charger for Gear S2 Classic

Gear S2 classic comes with 0.7A charger. Wondering I can use iPhone charger which has output 5V 1A?

I used my Note5 Samsung faster charger without issue.

Throwing juice at the battery faster than it was intended to will shorten its life. Not a big deal for a device with a removable battery but I wouldn't want to do it with my S2. Especially since it already charges in about an hour.

Oops I tend to use my S6 fast charger

A0425A said:
Throwing juice at the battery faster than it was intended to will shorten its life. Not a big deal for a device with a removable battery but I wouldn't want to do it with my S2. Especially since it already charges in about an hour.
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DO you really think the output of the charger determines charging current?

jacobgong said:
DO you really think the output of the charger determines charging current?
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No. Your probably right in this case and it wouldn't. I'm guessing that the charging dock would only draw what it needs. Wireless charging might be a different story. I'd have to read up on it. My comment centered mostly around heat and excess heat created during a faster than normal charge and the long term affects.

A0425A said:
No. Your probably right in this case and it wouldn't. I'm guessing that the charging dock would only draw what it needs. Wireless charging might be a different story. I'd have to read up on it. My comment centered mostly around heat and excess heat created during a faster than normal charge and the long term affects.
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I think it would make the most sense that wireless charging has at least, all the current regulator circuits wired charging has.

I'm using my old Note 2's charger (2.1A) without any issues. Charging circuit inside watch probably limits it to 0.5A anyway.
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I was also wondering about taking the chargerfrommy Note 4 to charge the watch. It would be more comfortable to not always take everything with you and to decimize it to a minimum.
In general you can provide a 5 amps charger for a device that will take 1 amp without a problem because as already explained, the device will draw that amount of current, that it can take. Also with inductive charging there shouldn't be any difference.
You can test how your watch will react to another charger and if you find it getting very hot compared to the genuine charger and find any other incompatibilities, you should stop the charging process but otherwise i can't see any problems.