[SECURITY HOLE] [Readme] Newbie / Noob warning! - Galaxy Tab 3 General

Hello readers, I am a cyber forensic developer and analyst.
While looking over automatic rooting softwares and websites I came across 2 programmes that installed smpt keyloggers to the system directory.
I am yet to analyse how it works [Will be updated when I do]
Till than please make sure don't use any auto rooting software.
For rooting please refer to our xda friends and developers who has posted several rooting methods through odin and a root file along with a custom recovery.
Administrators are requested to pin this post for the digital safety of the newbies and other victims.
Leave a thanks it it helped you

If you could link to, or describe these programs it would be even better

Nitro_123 said:
If you could link to, or describe these programs it would be even better
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I am yet to analyse those files.
I captured two outgoing files,
1. Keylog068.file
2. PhoneGal.file
keylog seems like a text file but it is encrypted.
I cannot link them to the rooting websites and softwares unless I am positive about the threat.

Please report the link or program used to root... Otherwise downloading programs outside of XDA come with malware pre-installed. Try using methods to root any tablet/phone from known sources specially rooting software found within XDA itself.

The government is watching me? Even in my tinfoil hat?
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

...Awesome... said:
Please report the link or program used to root... Otherwise downloading programs outside of XDA come with malware pre-installed. Try using methods to root any tablet/phone from known sources specially rooting software found within XDA itself.
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I cannot report unless i am 100% sure the program steals our keylogs. I am trying to crack the encryption, and will report back soon
(Actually i am a bit slow with rainbow tables )

cybe4_f0rencic_d3v said:
I cannot report unless i am 100% sure the program steals our keylogs. I am trying to crack the encryption, and will report back soon
(Actually i am a bit slow with rainbow tables )
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As this is a developers site it might be handy to share the suspect programs.
So others could help in decrypting, and/or check for malware.
But thanks for sharing this information anyway, and goodluck on your efforts! :good:

HanZie82 said:
As this is a developers site it might be handy to share the suspect programs.
So others could help in decrypting, and/or check for malware.
But thanks for sharing this information anyway, and goodluck on your efforts! :good:
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Ok i will do one thing, I will upload the captured files ASAP

cybe4_f0rencic_d3v said:
Hello readers, I am a cyber forensic developer and analyst.
While looking over automatic rooting softwares and websites I came across 2 programmes that installed smpt keyloggers to the system directory.
I am yet to analyse how it works [Will be updated when I do]
Till than please make sure don't use any auto rooting software.
For rooting please refer to our xda friends and developers who has posted several rooting methods through odin and a root file along with a custom recovery.
Administrators are requested to pin this post for the digital safety of the newbies and other victims.
Leave a thanks it it helped you
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First thanks for the allert. For this First step I give you 50% of an A. Why? Because you need to Post All Important Info. What you have done is useless.
It is not wrong to point out Possible or Unverified Threats to our security, since this is a mayor risk. It may compare to having some knowledge that a possible murder will be soon or in progress! You do not wait for the murder to happen just to say later that you where just concern!.
But what you have done worth nothing without the knowledge of the NAME of what program you are referring. Nobody else can confirm or denied without Program NAME. Clearly you are not sure. So in your statement, just clearly Express your Concerned. And Clearly say as you did that the info needs to be verified. Then ASK others to Verify your findings.
What you are doing will cause the opposite effect, . As Single accuser you will get back some comments.
Last, if it is a false alarm, you will see the owners of those APPs giving explanations !

Without mentioning the two rooting apps, this is an idiotic thread just spreads paranoia.
I was going to room my daughter's tab until I read this thread.
Which software should I be avoiding? If you suspect it, and can't prove it, why not just list it here so users like myself can avoid it and/or the developers can explain themselves.
Right now, am I to avoid all rooting software?

I vote this thread the most rediculous thread so far for 2014.
Go ahead and root guys. If there was an issue it would be all over the net by now. Don't listen to one tinfoiled hat guys tomfoolery.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

atudnsca said:
Without mentioning the two rooting apps, this is an idiotic thread just spreads paranoia.
I was going to room my daughter's tab until I read this thread.
Which software should I be avoiding? If you suspect it, and can't prove it, why not just list it here so users like myself can avoid it and/or the developers can explain themselves.
Right now, am I to avoid all rooting software?
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You can root via custom recoveries and root files, its considered safe.
I will post an update today on my findings

I don't get why people would use software to root their device.
It's much more fun to do it yourself.

bensonhsu2008 said:
I don't get why people would use software to root their device.
It's much more fun to do it yourself.
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agreed!

bensonhsu2008 said:
I don't get why people would use software to root their device.
It's much more fun to do it yourself.
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Im sorry for your lack of imagination/empathy then.
But i dont always have the time (ie patience) to do it all myself.
And lets be honest nowadays everything has to be easy, people dont want to think for themselves anymore.
You can see that in the forums as lot's of easy/simple/dumb questions being asked. (without searching so the questions is not new).
I could go on, as its an irritating factor for me, dumb people... :angel:

cybe4_f0rencic_d3v said:
agreed!
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Here's what I don't understand. Why are you not telling us the suspect apps? You can report more findings when you get em. Until you state actual names or links to the apps you are being disregarded by many. If it's something on xda that's causing this and you are dickin the dog on telling us, you have lost all credibility...
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium HD app

Any update as to what apps we should be avoiding?

He's spouting the same stuff in other forums. He's a kid. LOL.
Please carry on with your normal lives.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

Related

Creating a Downloadable "root kit" for the Market

I was just thinking... someone could write up an application that does the following:
It verifies you are running RC29. If not, it directs you to the sticky post on xda-developers (or sends you an email with the link).
The application contains a modified/rooted recovery image.
The application tells the user to type "telnetd" + enter.
Once telnetd is running, it telnets into localhost and automatically remounts the /system partition, and replaces the recovery image.
For noobs, it would trivialize a lot of the difficulty of rooting.
I'm pretty busy porting native applications and Mono to work with Android (almost done though!) but wanted to just throw this idea out there for someone else to pick up.
I can also provide source code for my Telnet client that is currently used to do the rooting. That would make a good starting point.
Its a good idea, though whether it makes it onto the market is another question. If u want root bad enough, then u should be able to figure it out through the threads here like i did
Even better, it automatically grabs an RC29 NBH from a server, saves it to SD, verifies the SD is FAT32, verifies its hash, renames it to DREAIMG.NBH and instructs the user to boot into bootloader mode.
I think this would be VERY helpful for those ignorant idiots who post on root-only apps and rate them down because they don't know how to operate Google.
Also, I think it should include an option to download the DREAMIMG.NBH file and put it in the root so that RC30 users can downgrade.
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Its a good idea, though whether it makes it onto the market is another question. If u want root bad enough, then u should be able to figure it out through the threads here like i did
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The thing is, this is exactly why the Android market is supposed to be better than the AppStore. There is no "official approval" process. Apps can get taken down if they are malicious, but as long as a developer has paid their $25, their apps can go straight to the Market.
I think we are all dreaming that an application like this would ever hit the market. I'm not saying it's a bad idea but think about what we putting in front of EVERYONE that owns a G1.
Do you really think everyone that owns a G1 should be trusted with root access?
What happens when the first application that comes to market place exploits root access and really does some damage/malicious to your precious G1.
I'd suggest rethinking this one.
rsfaze said:
I think we are all dreaming that an application like this would ever hit the market. I'm not saying it's a bad idea but think about what we putting in front of EVERYONE that owns a G1.
Do you really think everyone that owns a G1 should be trusted with root access?
What happens when the first application that comes to market place exploits root access and really does some damage/malicious to your precious G1.
I'd suggest rethinking this one.
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Root access is protected by Superuser.
Koush said:
Root access is protected by Superuser.
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I get that which is a nice feature, but I thought Superuser is only available in JF images. I don't recall having an application on my stock RC30 called Superuser and it's not found in market place.
What did I miss?
rsfaze said:
I get that which is a nice feature, but I thought Superuser is only available in JF images. I don't recall having an application on my stock RC30 called Superuser and it's not found in market place.
What did I miss?
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It was on the market for a while. Now its incorporated into the jf updates
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It was on the market for a while. Now its incorporated into the jf updates
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ah then I retract all previous statements dam newbs always spouting off thinking they know everything
"root kit" is kind of an unfortunate name, don't ya think ;-)
Also, it seems like Google could certainly pull the download for violating Dev Distribution Agreement Section 4.4:
Prohibited Actions. You agree that you will not engage in any activity with the Market, including the development or distribution of Products, that interferes with, disrupts, damages, or accesses in an unauthorized manner the devices, servers, networks, or other properties or services of any third party including, but not limited to, Android Users, Google or any mobile network operator.
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Finally, if you (or someone else) puts an app up there, people are going to download it and try it out. Inevitably some of them are going to be lazy idiots, and they're going to come to xda-dev and spam the dev board with the most inane and aggravating questions. Are you prepared to doom us to that?
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Finally, if you (or someone else) puts an app up there, people are going to download it and try it out. Inevitably some of them are going to be lazy idiots, and they're going to come to xda-dev and spam the dev board with the most inane and aggravating questions. Are you prepared to doom us to that?
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I'd cancel my account
So just post the app online without putting it on the Market. Then the whole G1 world isn't stumbling across it, but you can pass the link to friends who would like root but who are too scared or too busy to go through the process themselves.
danguyf said:
So just post the app online without putting it on the Market. Then the whole G1 world isn't stumbling across it, but you can pass the link to friends who would like root but who are too scared or too busy to go through the process themselves.
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if they are too scared they shouldn't have root in the first place. You won't understand what Superuser is truly asking of you and give the wrong application permission then Tmobile will have an influx of calls about "damaged phones."
Busy people have friends like us that can always barter something out of them, just add to the long list of favors.
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So just post the app online without putting it on the Market.
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My line of thought is, if user x can't follow the instructions in the stickies to get root, then he/she probably shouldn't have root access to begin with. I don't want my phone price to be subsidizing the cost of replacing returns from users who bricked (or mistakenly think they've bricked) their phones doing things that are not officially supported by T-Mo/HTC.
...just my $0.02.
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My line of thought is, if user x can't follow the instructions in the stickies to get root, then he/she probably shouldn't have root access to begin with. I don't want my phone price to be subsidizing the cost of replacing returns from users who bricked (or mistakenly think they've bricked) their phones doing things that are not officially supported by T-Mo/HTC.
...just my $0.02.
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i completely agree... if you cant read then root is not for you.... there are alot of posts that are well written
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Even better, it automatically grabs an RC29 NBH from a server, saves it to SD, verifies the SD is FAT32, verifies its hash, renames it to DREAIMG.NBH and instructs the user to boot into bootloader mode.
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It might even be possible to do a force reboot into bootloader. I know how to force-reboot into recovery, but I'm not sure if a similar method can force-reboot into the bootloader.
F the market, its a place for kids to hang out and yell "First" when their 3rd. What joke the Market has been. Cant get an honest review anymore, its all about Obama, gays, being first, and lack of "good games". Nobody even cares that the app says "this is only a test, you probably shouldnt download it", they do and leave bad reviews. Idiots.
If something like this comes to fruition, make them come HERE for it, so their asses can be banned for being chilish
jashsu said:
Finally, if you (or someone else) puts an app up there, people are going to download it and try it out. Inevitably some of them are going to be lazy idiots, and they're going to come to xda-dev and spam the dev board with the most inane and aggravating questions. Are you prepared to doom us to that?
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If i had a nickel for every noob that spammed the board right now...
I really like the idea of putting it all in one complete package with as little user input as possible, but I don't think that the Android Market would be a suitable place to put it. People who don't even know what root is shouldn't have it offered to them. They should at least have to know enough to Google "root on android" and maybe be lead to one of our threads containing the link to this kit. If it goes on the market I would suggest not branding it in any way.
I support the root package idea in any case.
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i completely agree... if you cant read then root is not for you.... there are alot of posts that are well written
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One of the issues for some people is that there *are* a lot of posts. To get from point A to point B I had to read through one sticky on how to downgrade to RC29, complete with many pages of replies in order to get a handle on possible problems and solutions, then another sticky on flashing to modified recovery image so that I could find how to install the test keys, then another stick on upgrading to JF1.3, again with many pages of replies with potential errors and solutions, and then I realized I hadn't done the engineering bootloader yet so I had to find another sticky to read through.
I did it, and it was easy, but, wanting to be safe, I had to spend several hours paging through stickies in order to make sure I had a good grasp on the whole picture.
I would not have minded having the process automated a bit. I know what I'm doing and I could have used that time for other things.
Additionally, I think it would cut down on questions from n00bs going step-by-step through stickies and making basic errors. Because right now they're still going to go through the stickies and make dumb mistakes and ask the same questions, and of that only a small fraction will understand what they're doing and take an interest in how bootloaders and recovery images work and become the sort of users that should have root.
As it is now, I don't see the stickies as being much of a barrier to entry for those who don't know what they're doing and might brick their phones. They're doing it anyway. Might as well give them something to do it for them so they don't brick the phone right off the bat, and don't flood forums with posts about encountering errors cause by typing errors.
Just my $0.02!

[Q] Whens a non-dev root coming for sens.

Hey there anyone has any estimates on when the s-off, root and etc for general public will be out, not sure about how many bugs/glitches does the dev. version have...
Regards, SM
It's been stable and working. They may as well not call this a dev release.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
No issues
I think the disclaimer for the dev only thing was probably a safe guard to make sure the repercussions weren't severe if things didn't pan out! However everything works great for me... I just reflashed my stock RUU after and re-rooted and put on CWM and now my phone is slick and debloated! I donated because as far as I am concerned they can't improve upon perfect!
the reason why i asked is becasue this is my first time i ever dealt with HTC "rooting" wanted to make sure i dont run into much issues during the process, any pointers? besides the guide?
I still can't post questions on the dev thread since im fairly new....
Simplicity is the key
Just don't get worried that is all! Make sure you feel comfortable with the procedure prior to attempting it, but rest assured this is quite possibly the easiest S-Off/Root procedure around... no goldcard, no nothing! It literally does everything for you! So just stick to the guide, don't deviate, and never panic and jerk the cord from your phone! Then again I don't really think you can brick, but if I understand correctly S-Off is in the Radio and quite simply put if the Radio gets messed up the phone gets messed up!
Again if the phone seems fine to you, then you may not want to do it right now... the ROMs are just starting to come out of the kitchens and are young right now so holding off might be advisable or at least until you feel comfortable to play around with your phone!
I appreciate the tips glitzbd, when it comes to "rooting" as in iphone would that be considered jailbreaking ? And how does it interact with applications, allows you to rip apps for free?
SirMario87 said:
I appreciate the tips glitzbd, when it comes to "rooting" as in iphone would that be considered jailbreaking ? And how does it interact with applications, allows you to rip apps for free?
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It doesn't allow you to get free app's but along with s-off, gives you pretty much total control over the phone and allows app's that are made specifically for rooted devices to run on the phone, i.e. Titanium backup and also to flash custom rom's.
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It doesn't allow you to get free app's but along with s-off, gives you pretty much total control over the phone and allows app's that are made specifically for rooted devices to run on the phone, i.e. Titanium backup and also to flash custom rom's.
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I see, thanx alot, out of curiosity, are the HTCs able to be hacked where you would be able to download apps that are not free, for free.
(my fist HTC device)
SirMario87 said:
I see, thanx alot, out of curiosity, are the HTCs able to be hacked where you would be able to download apps that are not free, for free.
(my fist HTC device)
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Not that I know of and I wouldn't ask too much about how to do it or where to get them from on here as the moderator's are pretty strict about it.
There are websites that provide them if you have a google though.
cjm1979 said:
Not that I know of and I wouldn't ask too much about how to do it or where to get them from on here as the moderator's are pretty strict about it.
There are websites that provide them if you have a google though.
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I see i must have mistaken this forum as a more hack oriented forum....
SirMario87 said:
I see i must have mistaken this forum as a more hack oriented forum....
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LOL stealing paid apps = bad and majority of the websites that offer paid apps for free also offer identity theft,spam and trojans for your device to enjoy....BUY THE APPS man!!!!!!!!! not many things in life are FREE
SirMario87 said:
I see i must have mistaken this forum as a more hack oriented forum....
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It is for hacking / developing, but not for hacking paid app's / warez.
cjm1979 said:
It is for hacking / developing, but not for hacking paid app's / warez.
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You can tell im a long time Warez member Warez FTW!!!
But i appreciate the heads up fellas thanks!

What is Root?

A simple question. Simple answer. "Root" access to your device can allow you to install among many things Custom Roms. Thus giving you more control over your device. From customization of the UI to added features like tethering, Custom Roms open up endless possibilities!
Well now we have to answer what it means to have "root access" . Without "root access" you only have "Guest" privileges on your device(Sort of like how you can let people have a Guest account on your PC). This is for good reason (for most of us), but for the more tech savvy or just for those who like to tinker having just "Guest" access feels like being stuck in jail! While manufacturers of phones know that not every user should have root access for purposes of not messing your device up beyond repair. But we are all Adults here right? So we probably want "Super User Access" to our devices (almost as good as super powers). "Super User Access" is like having an Administrator account on Windows, you get full control over your system, or in this case your phone/tablet. The term "Super User" is derived from the UNIX/LINUX platforms that android was iterated from.
Having said that Rooting is NOT for everyone, and more for some than other's. It does often void your warranty, can brick your device, and is definitely not recommended by the manufacturer. If you have ever been the type to take apart things to figure them out be it through software hardware, or something else. I believe a tinkerer is also a hacker at heart. I began my tech journey by disassembling a digital alarm clock at 5. You can start anywhere even with rooting! Every Programmer/Hacker has a tinkering little kid in their soul! You may experience a lot of frustration and potentially broken devices along the way in your experiments with rooting/custom recoveries/custom roms. I highly encourage all of you who read this to look at every broken device analyze what happened that got it there; How can I fix it? If I can't fix it, How can I avoid that happening again? When you don't get frustrated by the inevitable losses you can learn from EVERY experience on any phone/tablet/computer/alarm clock you tinker with.
Hope this answers your questions, and inspires you to begin your journey with android development!
Sincerely,
``~~::../\<Shagerty>/\..::~~``​
Thx :thumbup:
Sent from my LT26i using xda premium
20vakaris00 said:
Thx :thumbup:
Sent from my LT26i using xda premium
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Your welcome! How are you enjoying being rooted now?
This isn't new thing for us,
But really great thread for noobs.
Good job:thumbup:
sanjaykumar.sanjay69 said:
This isn't new thing for us,
But really great thread for noobs.
Good job:thumbup:
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Thanks sanjay that was my intention. Glad you noticed!
Just new here, from this post,I got an understanding of the idea of "root" ! Thx!
Great!
pay188 said:
Just new here, from this post,I got an understanding of the idea of "root" ! Thx!
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Glad the post was helpful for you!

Am i ready to root?

Are you ready to root your phone!?
I am writing this out do to the amount of people who seem to start doing things on their phones without understanding what it is they're really doing.
Now you might say "I know I know exad, I root many phoen, I want 2 show peopel how smrt I am! I custumize everything and maek it lewk cool!" But there's really quite a bit of risk associate with the rooting process and even afterwards! Here, I will explain some of the common terms and risks associated with rooting, it will be like an index of knowledge I've accumulated being here on XDA.
So first off, what is root? Why is it dangerous?
I will tell you very directly, if you do not know exactly what root is, and/or how to manage access, you are not at all ready to root.
Root is a term to mean Administrative Access. Meaning you have full control over the software of your phone and it's system files. When you are given root access, you can alter any system files. This can obviously be damaging. Perhaps you trust yourself not to do anything crazy or destructive, which I think is the case for most people but often, root access is given to third party apps! So what can an app with root access do with your phone technically?.. Well, ANYTHING IT'S DEVELOPER wants. Overclock your CPU, create a backdoor to your phone, pull/steal personal information. The sky's the limit.
*This is a work in reprogress* More content will continue to be added until I feel this is complete."
Nice write up exad
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I agree. Very nice.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
Thanks guys! Means a lot coming from two top notch contributers as yourselves!
Yup.....very nice. I have been doing this for so Iong I had forgotten why. :thumbup:
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This Is great...unfortunately 90% of new people won't see or read this.. most new people search "att one x root"
No. Thank you sir. I haven't thought about the basics in a long time. Been to busy just flashing away lol.
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a box of kittens said:
This Is great...unfortunately 90% of new people won't see or read this.. most new people search "att one x root"
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There, that should help that! If it helps at least 1 person, it'll have been worth it.
exad said:
There, that should help that! If it helps at least 1 person, it'll have been worth it.
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We can only hope. Good job!
Sent from the HOXL dimension of S-OFF
I was thinking of doing a write up, but with work and army, I have no time. As you can see I am constantly on the app. However, this is awesome. I wish I had this when I started a few months ago. I just learned on my own. Also the android slang guide helped too.
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I wrote up something like this a while ago but decided not to post it because noobs never read these things. I may just throw it up in General.
Great work I will add it to my FAQ
Thanks for all your help, unfortunately I am one of those noobs who had been studying the root process for just about a week and thought I had a firm grasp on the concept. Fortunately for me I haven't done anything yet to brick my phone this is definitely a humbling experience haha -heads back to the forums to learn some more- :good:
Hmm not sure why this doesn't have more recognition... It took me months to figure this crap out. With a little experience, this guide could turn a total noob into a competant android rooter in a week or so. I remember my first posts on XDA *shudders*. So.... consider this a BUMPITY-BUMP
EDIT: That said, I know the first place many people go is general (that's what I did) so maybe this would get more views by the people who actually need it in general.
I would have loved this when I was rooting
Thanks for this. I've already rooted my phone and had to find much of this information on my own. It's nice to see it all in one place.
-RB
It's been a while since I've rooted a phone so I came here from another guide to refresh my memory a bit.
This thread is a joke, right? One of the more useless threads I've seen.
Organized_Chaos said:
It's been a while since I've rooted a phone so I came here from another guide to refresh my memory a bit.
This thread is a joke, right? One of the more useless threads I've seen.
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no I rage quit a few months back and deleted it all. I can rewrite it but people don't read anymore anyway (judging by Q&A)
exad said:
no I rage quit a few months back and deleted it all. I can rewrite it but people don't read anymore anyway (judging by Q&A)
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I came here through the link in FAQ! Too bad you deleted it
I can understand not updating because few people read this post but why actually delete it?

[Root]I want to learn how to Root Smartphone without 3rd Party app?

Hello, everyone and the moderators!
I just joined.
I had happily used Android in Datawind Tablet for 6 months, two years back, when it developed a snag. I received a replacement. It had third-party apk download site of Datawind, not the Google's Playstore. I was displeased by this limiting option. So I returned back the device and got back my full payment.
I informed Google about this but Google said that since Android development is under Apache license, not GNU license, people could do as they pleased.
A few months back I was interested by the Whatsapp app. It can't run on Android-x86 on PCs. So I planned to buy a cheap smartphone to test it. I bought a Karbonn Titanium 3Dplex Lite.
Everything alright upto this! I was happily using Whatsapp, when my notice was brought upon a third party app called Tap-n-Buy. I could not uninstall it.
I have been an exclusive Debian Linux user for the last nine years. So I thought I could su and remove it.
But I found that not only su is not possible ordinarily in Android, but in the android-porting forums it appears to be a taboo word.
Very well! I researched and found the site techaddictted.wordpress.com/2016/06/01/9-apk-to-root-android-phones-without-pccomputer
I downloaded a few rooting apk files from their parent sites.
In the meanwhile I was helped by Androidcentral, link, androidcentral.com/root and digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-root-android, in the preliminary research. I was also helped by the android-x86 forum.
I continued to post a few queries in "android-x86 and ancroid-porting" but am not receiving any replies:
Topics:
(1) Customise Pre-installed Android in personal Smartphones?
(2) How to copy the entire Android OS installed on smartphone to PC running Linux?
(3) Why Rooting Android on Smartphones is a taboo subject?
(4) How to install Android ISO on Smartphone from Linux Systems?
The process being: downloading the installed OS from my Smartphone to my lap-/desk- top, su and remove problematic apps, and put it back on the smartphone.
But needless to say, one of my posts has been refused. The rest have yet not been approved for general viewing.
With my threads to android-porting I came to have an intuition about some issues:
(1) It appears that Android rooting is a taboo subject in Android google usergroups.
(2) There is no direct super user level in android to be root'ed but only 3rd party apps.
I downloaded some of the apk files from the links provided by techaddictted.wordpress.com/2016/06/01/9-apk-to-root-android-phones-without-pccomputer . I checked those apk files using online virus malware scanner and found all of them problematic.
I continued to search, and from MakeUseOf - Technology, Simplified, (i.e., makeuseof.com) I was led here.
Now my interest is very detailed:
Ultimately, I wish to download the Entire Installation on the Smartphone of the custom Android by my mobile developer, tweak the files, remove a couple of problematic apps and then reinstall the tweaked files back to the smartphone again.
I know that in Linux I could remove root password using booting from a different liveCD, use some tricks like chroot and then remove and log on as root with a new password.
As a Linux aware person I can understand that may be Android is trying to suppress information about rooting a device to keep the proprietary apps running. They have their limitations.
But on the contrary, Google Android itself warns me of the third party software, which is indicates as malicious. Here is the link: drive.google.com/open?id=10N1HtycG87_5LW59-1GGKI32b1ucN0bC
It was these Tap-n-Buy warnings that actually aroused my interest in rooting my device, to be a superuser and remove this software. Otherwise, this app doesn't appear to be removable.
Could I be helped?
We will take one baby step at a time. First know whether it is at all possible to be a superuser without a third-party Superuser app.
And continue from there to the next baby step.
Root on Android is a security exploit. It is not taboo here.
It might be that your device can't be rooted (not all can be) mainly if it's a no name cheap devices.
Yes you need third party apps as root on Android requires a kernel change.
As for pulling the OS off a device. You are out of luck on that. As the OS is packaged differently when it is zipped and then it is decompressed when flashed.
Your best bet would be to see if your bootloader can be unlocked. If it can then you will need to find the kernel source and build aosp for the device.
Thank you for responding to my queries
Thank you Sir, for responding to my post and replying to my queries. I have to admit that I did not expect a reply so soon.
I thought I did not write clearly enough to make it clearer, and I apologise for the ambiguity. I would try to clarify certain aspects of my post based on your observations.
zelendel said:
... It is not taboo here ...
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I was not referring to this forum, Sir. I was talking about android-porting.
zelendel said:
... if it's a no name cheap devices ...
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Sir, it is a branded product from a fair Indian company ["karbonnmobiles dot com"] with an entry in the Wikipedia [english wikipedia.org/wiki/Karbonn_Mobiles].
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... Yes you need third party apps as root on Android requires a kernel change ...
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But all the apk files I checked with virustotal.com had issues. Could you kindly advise on a safe apk, Sir?
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... As for pulling the OS off a device. You are out of luck on that. As the OS is packaged differently when it is zipped and then it is decompressed when flashed ...
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Sir, I have already decompressed android-x86 ISO and studied it. So I think the same feat could be repeated on the smartphone's OS. Please inform about an HowTo, Sir.
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... to see if your bootloader can be unlocked. If it can then you will need to find the kernel source and build aosp for the device ...
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I would require links on HowTo, Sir. Could I be helped in this regard please?
I thank you once again for replying so promptly.
rajibando said:
Thank you Sir, for responding to my post and replying to my queries. I have to admit that I did not expect a reply so soon.
I thought I did not write clearly enough to make it clearer, and I apologise for the ambiguity. I would try to clarify certain aspects of my post based on your observations.
I was not referring to this forum, Sir. I was talking about android-porting.
Sir, it is a branded product from a fair Indian company ["karbonnmobiles dot com"] with an entry in the Wikipedia [english wikipedia.org/wiki/Karbonn_Mobiles].
But all the apk files I checked with virustotal.com had issues. Could you kindly advise on a safe apk, Sir?
Sir, I have already decompressed android-x86 ISO and studied it. So I think the same feat could be repeated on the smartphone's OS. Please inform about an HowTo, Sir.
I would require links on HowTo, Sir. Could I be helped in this regard please?
I thank you once again for replying so promptly.
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Oh no. Karbon is not what you think. They like Micromax use rebranded devices from China. Normally cool pads by Chinese name. (I have helped with many India based users with different oems) even helping getting kernel source release for the M1.
Root files will always trip anti virus programs. It's because in a way it is a virus. Root apps use security exploits to get root. Nothing to worry about as long as you are smart about it. Heck you can ask any developer here "what anti virus program they use" and the majority will say none. They are faker then a Chinese knock off. They have even been found to fake false reports on files for their competitors.
If your device has an unlocked bootloader then you can flash magisk which is the best root app.
If you come across an app that doesn't need to be flashed and is just an apk. Run the other way. Those use majority security exploits to get it done but most of them get patched in the monthly updates. So it doesn't always stay. They also tend to add malware to the device.
As for a step by step guide. I can only do what you can. That is to search xda to get the info I need.
I'll do what I can and see what I can find. No promises. Do some research yourself as well. It will help you learn the ins and outs and get you to know the lingo.
Mind you. You will still need an app to control root. Which is encludes with the magisk zip
I will try with your information
Thank you, Sir, for the additional information for my further research and experimentations.
I will try to find flash magisk zip and then use it.
BTW, I would seek this opportunity to request you to advise me about the best Smartphone that has everything accessible, from open bootloader to root permissions for my further experimentations.
Until then, I would seek your permission to be absent from this thread.
Thank you once again, Sir!
My regards
rajibando said:
Thank you, Sir, for the additional information for my further research and experimentations.
I will try to find flash magisk zip and then use it.
BTW, I would seek this opportunity to request you to advise me about the best Smartphone that has everything accessible, from open bootloader to root permissions.
Until then, I would seek your permission to be absent from this thread.
Thank you once again, Sir!
My regards
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Dude. Relax. I am no longer in the army. No need to call me sir. Lol This is a forum. People reply when they can. We are glad to help in our free time.
Do some research on magisk. Don't just go flashing. But first things first. Find out if you have a bootloader that can be unlocked. If not then you won't be able to go further.
Thanks for replying again so soon!
Thank you, Sir, for replying so quickly once again.
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No need to call me sir.
I addressed you as Sir as a gesture of admiration for your kind support. If you are uncomfortable with it, then I would rather not address you as sir.
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Find out if you have a bootloader that can be unlocked.
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Yes, I have just been researching on this very issue. But it appears to involve installing Android SDK, as per howtogeek dot com/239798/how-to-unlock-your-android-phones-bootloader-the-official-way
Is there another, easier way? A shortcut?
BTW, please refer to my request in the post #5 on a suitable smartphone for experimentation.
rajibando said:
Thank you, Sir, for replying so quickly once again.
Yes, I have just been researching on this very issue. But it appears to involve installing Android SDK, as per howtogeek dot com/239798/how-to-unlock-your-android-phones-bootloader-the-official-way
Is there another, easier way? A shortcut?
BTW, please refer to my request in the post #5 on a suitable smartphone for experimentation.
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All you really nead from the sdk is the adb files, so you can push commands to your device. There are a few basic adb packages. Here is a good tool. This will work for now to do what you want. If you ever decide to build roms for your devices from source then you will have to have the whole SDK.
While there are many sites one the internet XDA is the only one you will ever need for modding your device. Any question you may have as been asked at least a hundred times in these forums. Use the XDA search or the XDA search plug in for your browser to hel find the info you need.
Many devices have unlockable bootloaders. One Plus has the currant Dev support right now as they are good with 3rd party developers for the most part. Depending on the device unlocking the bootloader has back draws (sony with DRM keys and such) lessened security (no matter what any one tells you). Just see which devices XDA portal team is talking about. They are normally good dev devices. Like I think Honor is working with XDA to be as open as possible.
Thanks for replying again so soon!
Thank you once again.
Regarding your following sentence:
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... Any question you may have as been asked at least a hundred times in these forums ...
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I indeed did both full and advanced search in this very site for my OP thread title.
Needless to say, I didn't find any. I couldn't. I always ask incisive questions, otherwise, I don't.
Once in flow, I asked you about unlocking the bootloader. As I asked, I began my search as well
So Honor and One Plus? Could you please inform about the specific models? I will then talk to Amazon India for one of the two, and also about a completely open Smartphone, without locked bootloader, locked root, locked third-party app (I will do them myself, if required) with Android pre-installed, for experimentation.
Thanks a lot!
I will take some time to be familiar with xda, but I will eventually, if the quality that you vouch for is really there.
I admire all good things and am ready to pay more than money for them.
Regards
rajibando said:
Thank you once again.
Regarding your following sentence:
I indeed did both full and advanced search in this very site for my OP thread title.
Needless to say, I didn't find any. I couldn't. I always ask incisive questions, otherwise, I don't.
Once in flow, I asked you about unlocking the bootloader. As I asked, I began my search as well
So Honor and One Plus? Okay, I will talk to Amazon India for one of the two, and also about a completely open Smartphone, without locked bootloader, locked root, locked third-party app (I will do them myself, if required) with Android pre-installed, for experimentation.
Thanks a lot!
I will take some time to be familiar with xda, but I will eventually, if the quality that you vouch for is really there.
I admire all good things and am ready to pay more than money for them.
Regards
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Yeah the site search can be a bit bad. Due to the size of it. You will get used to what key words you will need to use. The site has been here for almost 20 years now leading the way in mobile hacking and development. So there is a lot of info. But a lot of it is pre-android as well so don't be deterred.
I had a look at the devices available from Amazon India. Look in out forums at the device threads and compare them. The 5t is the only one I can say for 100% that it will do what you want.
Ah, great!
Thanks for posting a reply so quickly.
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I am so sorry that I was editing the post #9 while you replied.
Okay, One Plus 5T? Shall enquire with Amazon.
[later addition] Yes, checked. But I won't buy it. It has a (redundant for me) very powerful camera and a very powerful HD screen, which I won't require.
The device is expensive chiefly because the powerful camera and the HD screen which I don't need. I simply want to experiment.
So I will go with the best of the original Chinese Brands that flood our markets.buy any one of the smartphones, as advised, 2nd hand. Not the India-nised Chinese Brands re-packaged by Karbonn or Micromax — a priceless information you brought to my notice. I will enquire with our local mobile repairers and software updaters.
I had already written to Amazon in the meanwhile. Though the CS team has replied, they are not very competent. I am presently waiting for the Executive Customer Relations Team to respond.
I will gradually become familiar with this site, for sure, and learn to search optimally.
Thanks once again!

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