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Motorola buyout and pure google experience handsets?

So any news on the whole "pure Google vanilla android" line of devices that was supposed to be coming out around Thanksgiving? It was all over the interwebz and then I seriously just stopped hearing about it completely.. it was right after the big Motorola buyout and apparently Google was supposed to be having a bunch of OEMs make pretty much the sameish model phone with vanilla android. I was so excited and then news just stopped! Anyone know any more about this? Opinions?
Edit: found a link to what I was talking about though I'm pretty sure I read the original on tc or engadget..
http://tegadgets.blogspot.com/2012/05/google-to-tie-up-with-multiple-oems-to.html?m=1

I just saw on my flipboard feed that Sony is considering an aosp device. Dunno if it's a result of the oem band up, but it looks cool.

I don't think the Motorola buyouts main reason was to take over phone production, but to get the patents to sue Apple. Also from what I remember reading it was more vague like 5 new nexus devices by Thanksgiving. So that would include Nexus 7 and Nexus Q. Maybe by Thanksgiving we'll have a new 10" Nexus tablet and the new Nexus Phone bringing it up to 4 or we could have a few new phone options. We'll have to wait and see.

Futant55 said:
I don't think the Motorola buyouts main reason was to take over phone production, but to get the patents to sue Apple. Also from what I remember reading it was more vague like 5 new nexus devices by Thanksgiving. So that would include Nexus 7 and Nexus Q. Maybe by Thanksgiving we'll have a new 10" Nexus tablet and the new Nexus Phone bringing it up to 4 or we could have a few new phone options. We'll have to wait and see.
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I got the impression it would be five new nexus phones, vanilla android , through five different OEMs. I guess it could be device , not specifically phone. Buy I wouldn't count nexus q, that's just me though. If anything I'd love to see a Motorola branded nexus. Never owned anything Motorola but they.certainly seem like they have good hardware

Latest rumor is now Galaxy 2, LG and Sony nexus phones. So we will see, any new addition would be awesome.
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Nexus devices always remain slightly underpowered when compared to flagship models. I'm of the belief that if Google simply forced manufacturers to release proprietary drivers, every device under the sun would be aosp capable, but I digress.
My next device will probably be a nexus, and if these rumours hold true, all the better for me

Google X Phone= Motorola Nexus 5

Hi everyone,
After reading this article, and the recent blaming game between LG and Google over low supply of Nexus 4,
http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/21/...rking-with-motorola-to-design-its-own-x-phone
Theoretically, if LG would make the Nexus 5 from their own flagship device of Optimus G Pro, most consumers would definitely choose the cheaper version Nexus 5 and it would definitely be a business loss for LG flagship device'slow sales (Optimus G Pro)
I think it only make sense that Google would manufacture their next flagship device by their own OEM, Motorola Mobile division. and perhaps if this will be true. Motorola brand would return its good press impression in the mobile tech world.
what do you think, guys?

I think Google will tap Motorola to build a stock Android device eventually. But when ? Most think maybe end of this year, possibly the Nexus-Five.
Others say no, Google is afraid of pissing off partners like Samsung, HTC, Sony, etc...And we might never see a Motorola Nexus.
Time will tell, but doubt we hear any news until Google I/O in May, and even then don't surprise to hear no Motorola news. I think it might be 2014.
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I think Google/Motorola will be cranking out phones in a year or two.
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Lot of news and rumors building around the Xphone recently. I think it WILL be announced in May. It'd be perfect time. Announce Android 5.0 on Xphone. Will be double breakthrough for Goog

I was hoping for an announcement at I/O, but if Google's CFO was speaking truth and not misdirection, it seems like the chances of that happening are less than I originally hoped. I'm running with my Toro right now, and it is sufficing thanks to some great ROMs (see MMuzzy's at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762846), but I would love to get my hands on newer tech. The real question right now for me tho is, which carrier will that be with??

They are gonna be separate device imo. :silly: nexus 5 will release in october-ish and "x" phone in summer. I want to buy any fro th either of two (would prefer nexus) which releases quicker. I'm not buying the nexus 4 cuz i'm waiting for either the nexus 5 or motorola "x" , hopefully the motorolla x will run stock android.

They worked together already a while back when creating the XOOM By Google and it was a complete success, I wouldn't mind if the next Nexus phone be Motorola... But I always wanted even after realizing that it's almost impossible; an Asus phone .. "ASUS Nexus 5 by Google" Ohh that sounds sweet, BUT...

What about the Nexus 6 ?

The Google Nexus 5 came and went, but during the upcoming months, news and actual real information will start to roll in about the new Nexus 6, and I would like to start a thread about this information.... Rumors, thoughts, even your own personal ideas, or even inside information would be welcome....

cjegan2008 said:
The Google Nexus 5 came and went, but during the upcoming months, news and actual real information will start to roll in about the new Nexus 6, and I would like to start a thread about this information.... Rumors, thoughts, even your own personal ideas, or even inside information would be welcome....
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This is very very early to post a thread like this, the new one will take at least 8-9 months to be released. Any news now or within 6-7 months is just rumor and speculation

What about the nexus 7?
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got it
Ben36 said:
What about the nexus 7?
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I already got one :silly:

roygaard said:
I already got one :silly:
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Amazing, now all we need is a Nexus 10 and my mind is blown
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too soon junior

If Google releases a phone, it's usually at the end of the year.

Who cares? Id still be using my Nexus 4 if it had LTE Phones have reached a point where they don't need to be better. It's just a P. ssing contest. The 5 is ideal with a good kernel. Some are never happy. Reading technology sites is to blame. They hype something up for 6months then forget and want the next as their sad jobs need news. Oh and it helps make pple insecure for the oems
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howard bamber said:
Who cares? Id still be using my Nexus 4 if it had LTE Phones have reached a point where they don't need to be better. It's just a P. ssing contest. The 5 is ideal with a good kernel. Some are never happy. Reading technology sites is to blame. They hype something up for 6months then forget and want the next as their sad jobs need news. Oh and it helps make pple insecure for the oems
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So true! All research and development needs to halt at this very moment! Technology does not need to improve, what we have now is good enough!
Said no one ever.

howard bamber said:
Who cares? Id still be using my Nexus 4 if it had LTE Phones have reached a point where they don't need to be better. It's just a P. ssing contest. The 5 is ideal with a good kernel. Some are never happy. Reading technology sites is to blame. They hype something up for 6months then forget and want the next as their sad jobs need news. Oh and it helps make pple insecure for the oems
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True. Although for me I just want something new and shiny because I get bored. Arguably I didn't need to upgrade from my S3 but I wanted to. That said, it's not like I am looking for my next handset yet. Loads of life in my 5 left over.

I always get a little jealous when a couple of newer phones than mine have come out/are coming out. I have no desire whatsoever for a Galaxy S4 or HTC One M8, but the Sony Z2 is shaping up to make me a bit envious. Ultimately though I know my N5 is going to give me a far easier ride when it comes to modding it, stuff just works properly on it.

setspeed said:
I always get a little jealous when a couple of newer phones than mine have come out/are coming out. I have no desire whatsoever for a Galaxy S4 or HTC One M8, but the Sony Z2 is shaping up to make me a bit envious. Ultimately though I know my N5 is going to give me a far easier ride when it comes to modding it, stuff just works properly on it.
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That there. That is why I buy nexus devices. You don't have to jump though hoops to modify it. I had an HTC one before this and you had to go through HTC dev and then gain s off and everything else. Heaven forbid if you need to go back to stock for repair purposes. Pain in the ass.
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gee2012 said:
This is very very early to post a thread like this, the new one will take at least 8-9 months to be released. Any news now or within 6-7 months is just rumor and speculation
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True, however it would be nice to see what the devs would like to see on their upcoming phone....and from the latest news, it looks like the Nexus 6 is going to be announced at the end of july. Not to mention, more than likely, with iPhone 6 and the Samsung Galaxy s5 about to hit in mid-end of April, Google will want to release something to compete with the hype. Every article I read stated it would at least have a 2k video display and would follow the lines of the nexus 5 with the upcoming LG G3...so another clone from what I understand, and if that's the case, it looks pretty promising.

If you want to continue this discussion, please use the existing thread HERE.
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[Q] Is a Nexus 5 2014 model still a possibility?

Now that the Nexus 6 cat is out of the bag and it's obvious the Nexus 6 isn't the successor to the Nexus 5, does anyone think it's still possible that Google will release a 2014 model Nexus 5? While the Nexus 6 looks like a beautiful device, it's monstorous and breaks the bank for many members of the Nexus customer base. Does anyone think that just maybe Google has new Nexus 5 model (i.e. a Motorola Nexus 5) up their sleeve but they're keeping it under wraps because they don't want to overshadow the new flagship devices with higher profit margins? Truth be told, I and I'm sure many others don't want a phablet and aren't willing to spend $650 on a phone so an updated Nexus 5 would be a welcome edition to the new lineup. We all know that inflation is a reality so the days of a high-end handset for $350 are over. Personally I would be willing to pay up to $500 for a Nexus 5 with 2014 hardware and flagship build quality as much as I love my Nexus 5. If Google were to release a 2014 Nexus 5 it would keep in tradition with the Nexus program since its inception and would provide developers with a top-of-the-line developer phone for a reasonable price. So does anyone else think that this is a possibility or is it all just wishful thinking?

talk about conspiracy theories..
na, itll be the same 'ole nexus 5.

It would be welcome, but it makes no sense whatsoever to do that.

If I want to refresh my Nexus5, I plug in an Anker external battery.
Or I could use my OnePlus.

It's possible to release a smaller phone they did keep the 5 so it's not likely to replace it. Now what the name is if a smaller device is released in 2015 is another story. Nexus 6 mini, nexus 6, Android silver, nexus 5, "nexus", nexus "insert oem name like xperia, one etc
Anything is possible, last year it would seem impossible for Google to release a 6 inch phone but they did.

I don't think they will have a "2014" nexus 5 edition, but will keep selling the 5 as a smaller version for people who don't like phones that big.

"Updated" Nexus 5 (or whatever it will be called) with 5'' screen seems to be a logical step to me. Just a question of time.

I think it would be nexus 5 2015 with snapdragon 810 x64:laugh:

BirchBarlow said:
Now that the Nexus 6 cat is out of the bag and it's obvious the Nexus 6 isn't the successor to the Nexus 5, does anyone think it's still possible that Google will release a 2014 model Nexus 5? While the Nexus 6 looks like a beautiful device, it's monstorous and breaks the bank for many members of the Nexus customer base. Does anyone think that just maybe Google has new Nexus 5 model (i.e. a Motorola Nexus 5) up their sleeve but they're keeping it under wraps because they don't want to overshadow the new flagship devices with higher profit margins? Truth be told, I and I'm sure many others don't want a phablet and aren't willing to spend $650 on a phone so an updated Nexus 5 would be a welcome edition to the new lineup. We all know that inflation is a reality so the days of a high-end handset for $350 are over. Personally I would be willing to pay up to $500 for a Nexus 5 with 2014 hardware and flagship build quality as much as I love my Nexus 5. If Google were to release a 2014 Nexus 5 it would keep in tradition with the Nexus program since its inception and would provide developers with a top-of-the-line developer phone for a reasonable price. So does anyone else think that this is a possibility or is it all just wishful thinking?
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I will admit that's some good thinking. Unfortunately, for profit margin concerns like you stated... I don't think it would make sense for them. Most people can afford a flagship or have jobs. The iPhone 6 Plus is a rather big device. Google knew they had to stay another step ahead of Apple and that's probably why were seeing a phablet and not a phone.
I don't have an issue with the size whatsoever. I have an issue with that price though. If I wanted to pay 550 or more for a phone.. I would have gotten an S5 or LG G3. I remember my total from purchasing the Nexus 5 32GB wasn't even over 435$ with taxes included. In fact the 16GB model was so cheap I decided to spend a little extra and get a bigger model since it wasn't pricey to begin with, got a case too.
Now take the following into consideration. You have to pay taxes on the price of the Nexus 6, and most people will get a case or want a case and perhaps insurance. When it's all said and done you're looking at a rather large 3 digit figure.
The only easy way most of us are going to even touch a Nexus 6 will unfortunately be through pay as you go programs such as JUMP from T-Mobile where you pay a monthly fee. If the Nexus 6 survives the hype... Ill be looking into JUMP. And hopefully Motorola + carriers don't have an agreement to lock the device. I think Motorola and instantly think of Verizon and those very not sexy locked bootloaders.
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Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm tired but can't sleep lol..

TheLastSidekick said:
I will admit that's some good thinking. Unfortunately, for profit margin concerns like you stated... I don't think it would make sense for them. Most people can afford a flagship or have jobs. The iPhone 6 Plus is a rather big device. Google knew they had to stay another step ahead of Apple and that's probably why were seeing a phablet and not a phone.
I don't have an issue with the size whatsoever. I have an issue with that price though. If I wanted to pay 550 or more for a phone.. I would have gotten an S5 or LG G3. I remember my total from purchasing the Nexus 5 32GB wasn't even over 435$ with taxes included. In fact the 16GB model was so cheap I decided to spend a little extra and get a bigger model since it wasn't pricey to begin with, got a case too.
Now take the following into consideration. You have to pay taxes on the price of the Nexus 6, and most people will get a case or want a case and perhaps insurance. When it's all said and done you're looking at a rather large 3 digit figure.
The only easy way most of us are going to even touch a Nexus 6 will unfortunately be through pay as you go programs such as JUMP from T-Mobile where you pay a monthly fee. If the Nexus 6 survives the hype... Ill be looking into JUMP. And hopefully Motorola + carriers don't have an agreement to lock the device. I think Motorola and instantly think of Verizon and those very not sexy locked bootloaders.
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Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm tired but can't sleep lol..
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Adding to this, the Nexus 6 doesn't have a full aluminum construction either and this is probably just what the other OEMs wanted. I wonder by how much the next flagships from LG, Samsung, HTC would cost, they're bound to increase the price even further.
Gonna wait for the nexus 5 2015 edition or go for the new moto x seems a much more vfm device this time around.

One theory of the price hike I have heard is that OEM's are getting upset about making a device for google, then getting undercut by that device.... Which makes sense... So maybe there will be no more cheap Nexus devices

I dont see it as OEM play, but more like carrier pressure, nexus have been from the first google play release, a developer phone, not an premium phone but a top of the line afordable phone for developers to get something to work with. Since the nexus line never needed publicity and were always based on existing devices no great efford was needed to create it so with some help from from google it could be launch at a good price.
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But since now the launch is with help of all major carriers i think they made great preassure to make the price equal and profitable for them.
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Most people can afford a flagship or have jobs.
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To say most people can afford a $649 phone is the definition of misguided.

rootSU said:
One theory of the price hike I have heard is that OEM's are getting upset about making a device for google, then getting undercut by that device.... Which makes sense... So maybe there will be no more cheap Nexus devices
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I think the price hike is due to them making it available and being sold by all carriers. If they sold it in the play store for a cheaper price, they would be competing with all the carriers. Everyone would just buy it through Google and activate it on whatever carrier they are on. And I don't think the carriers would be happy about that.
And as far as a new Nexus 5. We don't really NEED one. Our Nexus 5 is still a great performer. Google doesn't need to spend more money on a spec bump phone.

I could see some sort of the Nexus 5. I don't envision Google going forward with only a phablet as there are a lot of people who just won't a phone that big, they'd be cutting off a big chunk of the market by not keeping a more reasonably sized phone (and reasonably priced). And if they don't keep a smaller one, people will just buy a Moto G or Moto X instead, which means less money for Google in the end.

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I could see some sort of the Nexus 5. I don't envision Google going forward with only a phablet as there are a lot of people who just won't a phone that big, they'd be cutting off a big chunk of the market by not keeping a more reasonably sized phone (and reasonably priced). And if they don't keep a smaller one, people will just buy a Moto G or Moto X instead, which means less money for Google in the end.
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Everyone in here is talking like the Nexus 5 is outdated and doesn't exist anymore. I'm not understanding why people feel that the Nexus 5 needs to be updated right now.

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Everyone in here is talking like the Nexus 5 is outdated and doesn't exist anymore. I'm not understanding why people feel that the Nexus 5 needs to be updated right now.
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I didn't say it did, but it's not very often a device gets overlooked one year and ever survives for another new model phase. That's the concern...

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I didn't say it did, but it's not very often a device gets overlooked one year and ever survives for another new model phase. That's the concern...
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I don't think they overlooked it. I think they still believe that the Nexus 5 is still great as it is (which it is). So they decided to add another device to their lineup. A bigger device is good as another option since a lot of phones are going that route and seem to be popular. The Nexus 5 is still going to be sold along with the Nexus 6 so they aren't tossing it to the curb or anything. Next year the Nexus 5 will probably be due for an update.

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Next year the Nexus 5 will probably be due for an update.
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That's basically what I just said!

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That's basically what I just said!
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I thought we were on the topic about them making a new Nexus 5 this year. lol

Nexus Isn't Dead

Stephen Hall (from 9to5Google) tweeted that "Nexus isn't dead." https://twitter.com/hallstephenj/status/780211011823337472
Slash Gear had an article which mentions future Nexus phones, not just tablets. http://www.slashgear.com/google-pixel-vs-nexus-key-details-of-the-not-quite-dead-28457902/
Unfortunately, there isn't much information or proof mentioned, and I don't know the reliability of either one of them. Are there other Nexus rumors floating around out there, or is this just wishful thinking?

ive had the g1(dream), nexus one, nexus s, galaxy nexus, nexus 4, nexus 5, nexus 6, and the 2012 nexus 7. its 100% that the nexus isnt dead until google says its dead. BUT.. at this point, im believing that the nexus will be dead :crying:

Yeah. The guy from 9to5Google said later his opinion was there probably wouldn't be another *phone*. I'm guessing he was referring to the new Huawei tablet.
Too bad. I bought my wife the LG Nexus 5X last year and have been following the development of T50/Sailfish/Pixel since early this year. Unfortunately, it would almost take a miracle to get me to buy it now.

It's high time to replace my beloved Nexus 5. Was hoping this year's Nexus device would be the upgrade of my dreams, but I'm with you. If the $650 price point is true, I can't see anything to get me to buy Pixel. Uninspired design at a premium price.

I owned a couple of nexus phones before but they're not really relevant now these days.

In a year Google will realize their Pixel major mistake and revive the Nexus!

I don't know. The Nexus line wasn't exactly a super seller, and I think Big G is now interested in profits only--from phones and services, as well as whatever they can harvest for their focus on AI. If you look in almost any industry, there is a market for cheap garbage and uber-expensive stuff. There really isn't much for the best-bang-for-your-buck. I'd like to think there'd be another Nexus phone, but it'll be too late for me. Not just because I'm going to get an HTC 10, but I've been rather disappointed with most news I've heard about El Goog since they reorganized under Alphabet. However, admittedly, some of it relates to their ongoing anti-trust investigations over the last couple of years. If it lasts for a while, and if Sailfish OS gains traction, this HTC 10 will most likely be my last Android phone. I'm not happy with Big G's recent direction.

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I don't know. The Nexus line wasn't exactly a super seller, and I think Big G is now interested in profits only--from phones and services, as well as whatever they can harvest for their focus on AI. If you look in almost any industry, there is a market for cheap garbage and uber-expensive stuff. There really isn't much for the best-bang-for-your-buck. I'd like to think there'd be another Nexus phone, but it'll be too late for me. Not just because I'm going to get an HTC 10, but I've been rather disappointed with most news I've heard about El Goog since they reorganized under Alphabet. However, admittedly, some of it relates to their ongoing anti-trust investigations over the last couple of years. If it lasts for a while, and if Sailfish OS gains traction, this HTC 10 will most likely be my last Android phone. I'm not happy with Big G's recent direction.
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You made a point here. They started showing their hunger. For example "Youtube Red" [emoji28]
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What I read is that Google has "no plans" for future Nexus devices. Plans can change. The Nexus line is/was a platform for development. It's no accident that each new version of Android incorporates more and more features created by the independent, enthusiast development community (ie: CyanogenMod).
No new Nexus phones this year, now they're doing this Pixel thing. I think it's going to fail, and fail hard. There's no way it's going to be successful at those prices. It's not as naively ridiculous as the Amazon Fire phone, but it's still way too much money for a phone that doesn't have the features and functions of other flagship phones from Samsung, LG, Apple, etc. Most of us here enjoy a stock or near-stock Android, but we're an extremely small part of the smartphone market.