Hello all. How are ya's today. I was wondering what I can do with my tablet. I bought it in haste really cause it was cheap. It is running android 4.0.4 The tablet itself is a HS-9DTB4 8gb hipstreet flare. It came rooted already so that is already done. What can I do with it. Can I upgrade the android or replace it with something. I would like to use it for business purposes but can't find the right apps for it I want. Any suggestions. ??
No one has ideas ??
1bigguy said:
Hello all. How are ya's today. I was wondering what I can do with my tablet. I bought it in haste really cause it was cheap. It is running android 4.0.4 The tablet itself is a HS-9DTB4 8gb hipstreet flare. It came rooted already so that is already done. What can I do with it. Can I upgrade the android or replace it with something. I would like to use it for business purposes but can't find the right apps for it I want. Any suggestions. ??
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there could be lots of things you can do with a rooted device, problem is you need a custom recovery, (for restoration and backup purposes) generic tablets like your most of the time dont get one. you can go onto the play store and just type in root and there will be a huge number of apps you can use, read the desc to make sure you meet the requirements, lots of people screw up on that.
Where would I get a custom recovery...from the people that make the device or is there a place on the play store to get it for this device. "Read the Desc"...what is that. ?? As long as I don't brick the tablet I don't really care what I do to it. I called hipstreet and they say there are no more updates for this tablet at all so either I do something or I get to use what I have forever, lol. I don't wanna do that.
1bigguy said:
Where would I get a custom recovery...from the people that make the device or is there a place on the play store to get it for this device. "Read the Desc"...what is that. ?? As long as I don't brick the tablet I don't really care what I do to it. I called hipstreet and they say there are no more updates for this tablet at all so either I do something or I get to use what I have forever, lol. I don't wanna do that.
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Custom recovery is cwm, clockworkmod, google and see if a version exists for your device. Rooting gives superuser permission which is extremely powerful, it removes all safeguards that prevent a user from destroying their system, downloading the wrong app or pushing a wrong option can instantly brick a device, which is why custom Recovery's exist, they back up the entire system not just /data but also /system and others. If you do not know what any of this means then i would suggest not messing with root access.
And read the desc means read the description, it is the mass of words under an app in the play store or app thread that outline use, require my a, what not to do and other good stuff
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hunterk11 said:
Custom recovery is cwm, clockworkmod, google and see if a version exists for your device. Rooting gives superuser permission which is extremely powerful, it removes all safeguards that prevent a user from destroying their system, downloading the wrong app or pushing a wrong option can instantly brick a device, which is why custom Recovery's exist, they back up the entire system not just /data but also /system and others. If you do not know what any of this means then i would suggest not messing with root access.
And read the desc means read the description, it is the mass of words under an app in the play store or app thread that outline use, require my a, what not to do and other good stuff
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A Custom Recovery is not CWM, CWM is one of the few Custom recovery we have, but pretty much what he said, the only way you would get a recovery is for someone to make one witch i doubt anyone has for your specific tablet.
Trozzul said:
Custom Recovery is not CWM, CWM is one of the few Custom recovery we have, but pretty much what he said, the only way you would get a recovery is for someone to make one witch i doubt anyone has for your specific tablet.
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Cwm or twrp are the main ones, if someone says custom recovery most will say cwm, i was just trying to keep it relatively simple.
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So basically there is nothing I can do with it unless someone has made an image specifically for this device, which I to doubt anyone will do. It's not a high end tablet so there is no reason for anyone to in the first place. Is there anyway to update the existing android o/s on it or no. ??
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I actually just found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2172412
1bigguy said:
So basically there is nothing I can do with it unless someone has made an image specifically for this device, which I to doubt anyone will do. It's not a high end tablet so there is no reason for anyone to in the first place. Is there anyway to update the existing android o/s on it or no. ??
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I actually just found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2172412
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well from the thread it looks like it might be your device, you should ask the person if its for your model only, i searched and it seems like there is a few different ones. otherwise it looks like this is what you need if its for your tablet.
Now that's just for recovery right. ?? How do I find out what else I can load onto my tablet. ??
1bigguy said:
Now that's just for recovery right. ?? How do I find out what else I can load onto my tablet. ??
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so if you get this recovery what your going to do is make a backup so you can always restore to when you do something wrong (for safe purposes) then apps that need root will let you use them, as for the update i doubt someone made a rom aswell, if theres no recovery theres no way people have made a rom for the tablet.
Ok, So I guess I will go on a bit of a search then to see what I can find. So not just ANY rom will do. It has to be made for this specific tablet. Like I couldn't say try and load windows on it or something silly like that. ??
Correct. Regardless of anything else you can only run code that's compiled for that.machine ... and I assume you Microsoft doesn't compile Windows for that thing.
You may want to look for a different tablet that's a clone of yours. A lot of the cheap tablets share hardware designs and are identical inside.
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Correct. Regardless of anything else you can only run code that's compiled for that.machine ... and I assume you Microsoft doesn't compile Windows for that thing.
You may want to look for a different tablet that's a clone of yours. A lot of the cheap tablets share hardware designs and are identical inside.
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So I should be looking more at what hardware it has in it to figure out a rom for it. ??
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Hello! I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge.
First of all here is my phone info
Rooted RAZR maxx hd with unlocked bootloader (XT926)
My main objective is to flash custom ROMs and see if any are better and faster than stock.
My problem is I have no idea what I'm doing. I can't seem to find any threads that are simple enough for me to understand what I need to do and in what order I need to do those things.
Supposedly I need to back up my phone which seems to be the same thing as having a recovery???
If there is a thread that simplifies backing up and using a custom recovery please post a link.
I don't understand how to back up my phone, or if I use my computer or phone to do said back up.
I don't understand how to use the app ROM manager, my phone isn't listed on it when I try to download clockworkmod. So I downloaded a file cwm.img and I don't know what the heck to do with it?
I think I have adb on my computer?
I'm so confused and there's too much information and it makes no sense to me. Can someone please help me or post links to SIMPLE walk throughs of what I need to do and tell me what order I'm supposed to do them in?
I'm sorry if you think I haven't searched because I've been searching for a long time over a few days and all I've found is information that is too complex for me.
I appreciate any help! I'm new and I don't want to hurt my phone.
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Hello! I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge.
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First of all here is my phone info
Rooted RAZR maxx hd with unlocked bootloader (XT926)
Mine is a Razr HD (XT925) But it's mainly the same except roms and some tools (and probably some other things I don't know...)
My main objective is to flash custom ROMs and see if any are better and faster than stock.
Which is the idea I had a week ago
My problem is I have no idea what I'm doing.
I was exactly in the same position since this is my first smartphone ever ^^
I can't seem to find any threads that are simple enough for me to understand what I need to do and in what order I need to do those things.
Well I had to search a while cause I first of all wanted to backup the most I could before doing anything.
Supposedly I need to back up my phone which seems to be the same thing as having a recovery???
This is a good thinking But there are limitations on what you can do without making the first thing which is rooting your phone "and then unlocking it".
If there is a thread that simplifies backing up and using a custom recovery please post a link.
I don't understand how to back up my phone, or if I use my computer or phone to do said back up.
The first thing I could do, was to backup the Apps/Contacts/etc... by using some apps like : MyBackup
The thing is : these applications are limited until you are rooted, because you wont be able to save apps data like your game scores or whatever
The second way to backup, is to make an entire backup of your system and data, which can only be made after unlocking the bootloader (by installing a custom recovery).
Be careful, unlocking your bootloader will ENTIRELY WIPE the data you have so make backups BEFORE.
I don't understand how to use the app ROM manager, my phone isn't listed on it when I try to download clockworkmod. So I downloaded a file cwm.img and I don't know what the heck to do with it?
Not sure about it because I never got that app before unlocking my bootloader.
I think I have adb on my computer?
To get adb on your computer, you need Android-SDK.
I'm so confused and there's too much information and it makes no sense to me. Can someone please help me or post links to SIMPLE walk throughs of what I need to do and tell me what order I'm supposed to do them in?
If you need more infos, dont hesitate to ask me on your post Ill subscribe to it in case of
I'm sorry if you think I haven't searched because I've been searching for a long time over a few days and all I've found is information that is too complex for me.
I can understand, personnaly im working in IT and I understand how this can be a pain when you have no knowledge at all on that subject :/
I appreciate any help! I'm new and I don't want to hurt my phone.
Once again, good thinking, but even thought, going where you are going is very risked.
And I can tell...because I nearly bricked my phone...as you can see here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2631547
boost4life17 said:
Hello! I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge.
First of all here is my phone info
Rooted RAZR maxx hd with unlocked bootloader (XT926)
My main objective is to flash custom ROMs and see if any are better and faster than stock.
My problem is I have no idea what I'm doing. I can't seem to find any threads that are simple enough for me to understand what I need to do and in what order I need to do those things.
Supposedly I need to back up my phone which seems to be the same thing as having a recovery???
If there is a thread that simplifies backing up and using a custom recovery please post a link.
I don't understand how to back up my phone, or if I use my computer or phone to do said back up.
I don't understand how to use the app ROM manager, my phone isn't listed on it when I try to download clockworkmod. So I downloaded a file cwm.img and I don't know what the heck to do with it?
I think I have adb on my computer?
I'm so confused and there's too much information and it makes no sense to me. Can someone please help me or post links to SIMPLE walk throughs of what I need to do and tell me what order I'm supposed to do them in?
I'm sorry if you think I haven't searched because I've been searching for a long time over a few days and all I've found is information that is too complex for me.
I appreciate any help! I'm new and I don't want to hurt my phone.
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Start
Use Recovery Tools from play to flash your fav img.
TWRP check my Problems post in HD gen. Pocket proof, easy
Not pocket proof:
CWMR be careful of the double touch conformation!-you can use the keys til you are versed w/ the input flukes that inspired Philz recovery. Otherwise solid & simple.
I use Philz which may support everything in Rom Manager soon.
RM works w/ Photon Q recovery works on all the msm8960 phones, xt907, 925, 926, mb886. keys only.
All recoveries
Just because you can format it, it still may not be supported in the backup or even the xml restore (/persist)
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Get a SANDISK 64 GB CARD, FORMAT FROM RECOVERY to default format-fat32. Then when in doubt BACKUP.
All for now
bye
No offense intended, but if it's too difficult for you, than you probably shouldn't touch the phone until you understand everything. Before you start modding, you need to know how to recover it so we don't have another brick. Once you start to understand the minor things, it will be like a light switch and the more complex things will start to make sense.
Hybris95 said:
First of all ..
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Be careful, unlocking your bootloader will ENTIRELY WIPE the data you have so make backups
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This only happens on a moto factory UL.
Not the one for the xt907, 926 & mb886.
I do believe a 925 can save themselves the bother of the factory path if they do not mind it being not reversible. Yet both are irreversibly noticeable.
aviwdoowks said:
Be careful, unlocking your bootloader will ENTIRELY WIPE the data you have so make backups
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This only happens on a moto factory UL.
Not the one for the xt907, 926 & mb886.
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Sorry about that I thought XT926 were close enough from XT925 (which is the only device I own) to have the same unlocking process.
My bad ^^
well if you're already unlocked and rooted, use this
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_xt925
follow the instructions, go to the development forum, download TWRP, CWM whichever floats your boat, and just use adb and fastboot.
id reccomend a backup, nandroid, titianium, etc.
djvita said:
well if you're already unlocked and rooted, use this
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_xt925
follow the instructions, go to the development forum, download TWRP, CWM whichever floats your boat, and just use adb and fastboot.
id reccomend a backup, nandroid, titianium, etc.
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Is post # 5 true for you & your 925 unlock?
Thanks
RikRong said:
No offense intended, but if it's too difficult for you, than you probably shouldn't touch the phone until you understand everything. Before you start modding, you need to know how to recover it so we don't have another brick. Once you start to understand the minor things, it will be like a light switch and the more complex things will start to make sense.
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This is an excellent point. When I first got into this a couple of years ago, I soft bricked my Bionic. I was able to recover it, but I could have avoided the problem if I had read a little more first. Now I read, read, read before trying something new. I found YouTube videos very helpful when I was a noob. Rootjunky is one resource, online and on YouTube. rootjunky.com
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Is post # 5 true for you & your 925 unlock?
Thanks
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yes i supposedly backed up with cwm, but the last time i got in that option, it did not find that backup.
at least there is a firmware superthread, but my cwm is for 4.4 only, so id have to flash another cwm to go back to stock jb
i find a titanium backup to be better, just backup my sms/calls, wifi keys, and user apps...
RikRong said:
No offense intended, but if it's too difficult for you, than you probably shouldn't touch the phone until you understand everything. Before you start modding, you need to know how to recover it so we don't have another brick. Once you start to understand the minor things, it will be like a light switch and the more complex things will start to make sense.
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No offense taken! I appreciate the constructive criticism. That is why I posted this question. I am reading all I can and I won't be attempting anything more until I understand the concepts. I just didn't know where to go for a more simple explanation of these concepts since apparently I'm not as intelligent as 90% of you guys on this forum!
I have already rooted and unlocked my phone so that's a good start haha. I will now follow the advice given in this thread and hopefully learn enough to understand these more complex concepts!
I appreciate everyone's information and responses!
Thanks ya'll
Jess
Good to hear you've placed these flammers where they have to be ^^
Anyway Nice job on what is done, the hardest and risky is still to come :/
Envoyé de mon XT925 en utilisant Tapatalk
its easy, the scripts i used are noob friendly, most important part is to backup your info!
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yes i supposedly backed up with cwm, but the last time i got in that option, it did not find that backup.
at least there is a firmware superthread, but my cwm is for 4.4 only, so id have to flash another cwm to go back to stock jb
i find a titanium backup to be better, just backup my sms/calls, wifi keys, and user apps...
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???
Cwm=Cwmr?
Recovery is made for phone not any particular rom.
I'm glad you didn't take offense. Just keep learning, you are off to a good start.
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I have a Wacom Cintiq Companion Hybrid ( DTH-A1300L ) android version needs help in so many ways. I bought it because I really need one for one of my jobs, yet can't really afford the crazy overpriced insanity that is a new Wacom so the reason it was so cheap was "can't connect to the Play Store. I know, hella foolish, I thought I could fix it by rooting it, but this thing is like level 10 as there is so little info as no one wanted to touch them it seems. I did find one guy on this forum that at one point rooted I am fair to average at rooting and the understanding of all that surrounds it. I have happily and successfully rooted my phones and tablet but I am no pro and fairly good at having gaping invisible holes in my info or logic when it comes to things like this.
Most frustrating is this thing is stuck on android 4 . 1 . 1 for no good reason I can imagine. It has dev tools installed after factory data reset but no google apps. (It arrived factory data reset)
I tried the relevant framework and store and the delete the cache trick to no avail. It can not update and can not even get to the Play Store.
Sooo the bad news is; no Google apps. No updates offered and stuck on some weird what looks like not stock version of 4 .1 .1 Jellybean.
When I plug it into my PC via USB it does not even show up in device manager.
The good news is I rooted it. Checked with root checker (unfortunately for now its Kingroot)
1. I have no idea how to make a back up from here. (no USB connection to PC issue)
or
2. what rom will work as my device is not listed on any of them. It would be great to find the stock rom as I am afraid this things cool and weird cintiq mode, pen function like abilities may be disabled or rendered useless with just any android rom.
Is there anyway to somehow find the stock OS on my device through boot loader? A place to find my stock or like rom. A clever work around?
Thanks in advance. for any who take up the challenge and offer any help or thoughts.
Cheers
Anyone know
What clockwork or custom recovery should I use?
Duende101 said:
I have a Wacom Cintiq Companion Hybrid ( DTH-A1300L ) android version needs help in so many ways. I bought it because I really need one for one of my jobs, yet can't really afford the crazy overpriced insanity that is a new Wacom so the reason it was so cheap was "can't connect to the Play Store. I know, hella foolish, I thought I could fix it by rooting it, but this thing is like level 10 as there is so little info as no one wanted to touch them it seems. I did find one guy on this forum that at one point rooted I am fair to average at rooting and the understanding of all that surrounds it. I have happily and successfully rooted my phones and tablet but I am no pro and fairly good at having gaping invisible holes in my info or logic when it comes to things like this.
Most frustrating is this thing is stuck on android 4 . 1 . 1 for no good reason I can imagine. It has dev tools installed after factory data reset but no google apps. (It arrived factory data reset)
I tried the relevant framework and store and the delete the cache trick to no avail. It can not update and can not even get to the Play Store.
Sooo the bad news is; no Google apps. No updates offered and stuck on some weird what looks like not stock version of 4 .1 .1 Jellybean.
When I plug it into my PC via USB it does not even show up in device manager.
The good news is I rooted it. Checked with root checker (unfortunately for now its Kingroot)
1. I have no idea how to make a back up from here. (no USB connection to PC issue)
or
2. what rom will work as my device is not listed on any of them. It would be great to find the stock rom as I am afraid this things cool and weird cintiq mode, pen function like abilities may be disabled or rendered useless with just any android rom.
Is there anyway to somehow find the stock OS on my device through boot loader? A place to find my stock or like rom. A clever work around?
Thanks in advance. for any who take up the challenge and offer any help or thoughts.
Cheers
Anyone know
What clockwork or custom recovery should I use?
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Greetings and welcome to assist. If you have root yoy can try installing gapps through flashify it may work. For custom rom there is an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android/guide-android-rom-development-t2814763
and for custom recovery an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/guide-how-to-compile-twrp-source-step-t3404024
Good luck
Sawdoctor
sawdoctor said:
Greetings and welcome to assist. If you have root yoy can try installing gapps through flashify it may work. For custom rom there is an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android/guide-android-rom-development-t2814763
and for custom recovery an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/guide-how-to-compile-twrp-source-step-t3404024
Good luck
Sawdoctor
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Thanks, I will see what I can find out and report back. Also editing from device to check date
sawdoctor said:
Greetings and welcome to assist. If you have root yoy can try installing gapps through flashify it may work. For custom rom there is an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android/guide-android-rom-development-t2814763
and for custom recovery an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/guide-how-to-compile-twrp-source-step-t3404024
Good luck
Sawdoctor
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Excuse my noobness. Flashify looks good, I installed it, but don't I need some image from somewhere either the stock OS or a new one for it to work? Not sure how to get Gapps from there.
It did I think, find something, a "restore kernel" and "stock recovery" I am unsure did it find my stock kernel and recovery and or ROM and I should boot from that? ( again apologies a-lot of new info and its getting a bit swirly) In otherwords since my device is not listed any where and at this point any working Android version will do, I am wrong to try and reboot from this? These devices are supposed to come stock on 4.2.2, so I am hoping perhaps incorrectly it will go back to that? That would be ideal at this point.
So I can work again whatever works.
Also I a bit concerned about the "date" I posted from on one of these. I think I posted from the Wacom. Perhaps the problem in deeper than I thought as that is Linux time 0?
I think it self corrected but originally it said I posted on Jan 1 1970...
As for custom ROM, I probably wont be able to make my own custom ROM, even though I would love to take to the time to learn, for now I have too many art and work related deadlines.
I was hoping for one that already existed that would work with my device.
Perhaps I misunderstood something about how all this works? Also I do not have Unbuntu. I should as I support an open internet, but WINE really does not run the Adobe products I need for work so
I am stuck with Windows.
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Excuse my noobness. Flashify looks good, I installed it, but don't I need some image from somewhere either the stock OS or a new one for it to work? Not sure how to get Gapps from there.
It did I think, find something, a "restore kernel" and "stock recovery" I am unsure did it find my stock kernel and recovery and or ROM and I should boot from that? ( again apologies a-lot of new info and its getting a bit swirly) In otherwords since my device is not listed any where and at this point any working Android version will do, I am wrong to try and reboot from this? These devices are supposed to come stock on 4.2.2, so I am hoping perhaps incorrectly it will go back to that? That would be ideal at this point.
So I can work again whatever works.
Also I a bit concerned about the "date" I posted from on one of these. I think I posted from the Wacom. Perhaps the problem in deeper than I thought as that is Linux time 0?
I think it self corrected but originally it said I posted on Jan 1 1970...
As for custom ROM, I probably wont be able to make my own custom ROM, even though I would love to take to the time to learn, for now I have too many art and work related deadlines.
I was hoping for one that already existed that would work with my device.
Perhaps I misunderstood something about how all this works? Also I do not have Unbuntu. I should as I support an open internet, but WINE really does not run the Adobe products I need for work so
I am stuck with Windows.
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If you just want to be able to install apps from the playstore then this is a simple alternative
https://www.xda-developers.com/unshackle-your-device-from-the-google-play-store-with-apkupdater/
If your phone is rooted then flashify can flash zips like gapps without the need for a custom recovery. If you are serious about trying to make your own rom/recovery then use a virtualbox in windows. http://www.osboxes.org/ has plenty of prebuilt virtual linux machines that will run on windows
Regards
Sawdoctor
I appreciate all your help. I got the "google of every kind from Gapps on has stopped" is over, which was intense as it popped up every few seconds, I somehow got that to quit by reloading the proper one from the APK Pure app which was an odd work around but nothing else was working. Still have this unsettling bare bones screen and none of the stock apps as well as it being stuck in 4.1.1. This device was made for 4.2. and I assume it was on here at one point.
I wonder if that alone could cause hardware issues. I thought about taking out the battery, until I realized that thing is inaccessible as a thing can be without wrecking the industrial glues and taking the entire thing apart which sounds
like an accident waiting to happen and possible making things worse. I imagine that is last case scenario.
Like I said I would love to make my stock reload, at this point that would be great as this thing seems unstable and no trick makes the play store work or allow me to sign into the device with my google email.
I think you are saying to make my own recovery/ROM of my own device I need to do the virtual box thing. Correct? Or is that for writing your own custom ROM? I can try that; make my own recovery that is, as it is not on CWM or TWRPs supported devices list so I have no choice and all in all would prefer the thing to load as if it was fresh out of the box not this 4.1. One serious hiccup I have found trying to use my PC is my device is not recognized as a storage device or otherwise. Not sure if this is due to the weird settings of Cintiq mode or simply because the thing is in a very weird state of 4.1.1. So that may make making changes via computer impossible. I am not the type to give up. Thanks again Saw
Here also is a sum up I added to a the just basic question of Can you find the Stock from a recovery device. Basically is there any way to return a device to stock with no ROMs available to do so, as in extract if from the device itself.
Additional backstory if helpful.
"I have a Wacom Cintiq Hybrid running Android 4.1 that is ( now ) rooted..
This is a very bad thing. The Real Stock ROM has palm rejection and all the drivers to make it work as a tool. So stock is the ideal but it is clearly not stock as my device supposedly came in the
box running 4.2 and with software and drivers to make it work properly with the pen. This has nothing. No software and the smallest amount of apps possible. Worse this is no custom ROM its on ( I think) as it would be the worst one ever and it was not rooted on arrival. I have no idea what happened before I got it. I may have made the mistake of rooting it really as I found out to my dismay there is no ROM support. So back to square one. I bought it ( very cheap for one of these ) "stuck and unable to go to the play store" and I did not realize until I got it, on a version of Android it was not meant for. Wacom is totally and woefully unhelpful in every way. They seem to want to quietly put this device behind them at the expense literally of their customers."
My question current is really about better understanding something in this whole Root and Linux learning adventure I think I am totally confused about.
Basically if no custom ROM exist or your device is not listed on the supported list of devices in any recovery program....
OR as in my case you want desperately to get the thing back running on it's true stock what do you do?
Your rooted, but stuck.
So my main question is:
What is the best way to bring a device back to stock if there is no stock ROMs available and factory reset will not work?
On any device in this situation. Mostly I am hoping to have it explained in a way I can really finalize this confusing hole in my logic.
Like can a recovery program find it if it is still on the device somewhere and if not, why not?
Thanks in advance.
Additional backstory if helpful.
I have a Wacom Cintiq Hybrid running Android 4.1 that is ( now ) rooted..
This is a very bad thing. The Real Stock ROM has palm rejection and all the drivers to make it work as a tool. So stock is the ideal but it is clearly not stock as my device supposedly came in the
box running 4.2 and with software and drivers to make it work properly with the pen. This has nothing. No software and the smallest amount of apps possible. Worse this is no custom ROM its on ( I think) as it would be the worst one ever and it was not rooted on arrival. I have no idea what happened before I got it. I may have made the mistake of rooting it really as I found out to my dismay there is no ROM support. So back to square one. I bought it ( very cheap for one of these ) "stuck and unable to go to the play store" and I did not realize until I got it, on a version of Android it was not meant for. Wacom is totally and woefully unhelpful in every way. They seem to want to quietly put this device behind them at the expense literally of their customers.
I have discussed this problem in another thread if more details on all this specific to this device are of interest.
Duende101 said:
My question current is really about better understanding something in this whole Root and Linux learning adventure I think I am totally confused about.
Basically if no custom ROM exist or your device is not listed on the supported list of devices in any recovery program....
OR as in my case you want desperately to get the thing back running on it's true stock what do you do?
Your rooted, but stuck.
So my main question is:
What is the best way to bring a device back to stock if there is no stock ROMs available and factory reset will not work?
On any device in this situation. Mostly I am hoping to have it explained in a way I can really finalize this confusing hole in my logic.
Like can a recovery program find it if it is still on the device somewhere and if not, why not?
Thanks in advance.
Additional backstory if helpful.
I have a Wacom Cintiq Hybrid running Android 4.1 that is ( now ) rooted..
This is a very bad thing. The Real Stock ROM has palm rejection and all the drivers to make it work as a tool. So stock is the ideal but it is clearly not stock as my device supposedly came in the
box running 4.2 and with software and drivers to make it work properly with the pen. This has nothing. No software and the smallest amount of apps possible. Worse this is no custom ROM its on ( I think) as it would be the worst one ever and it was not rooted on arrival. I have no idea what happened before I got it. I may have made the mistake of rooting it really as I found out to my dismay there is no ROM support. So back to square one. I bought it ( very cheap for one of these ) "stuck and unable to go to the play store" and I did not realize until I got it, on a version of Android it was not meant for. Wacom is totally and woefully unhelpful in every way. They seem to want to quietly put this device behind them at the expense literally of their customers.
I have discussed this problem in another thread if more details on all this specific to this device are of interest.
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Hello & welcome to xda-assist,
If you rooted the device you changed the system /kernel in the process, if root is all you done you should be able to unroot by using the unroot option in your root management application, if you did further changes like deleting system apps and so on it gets more complex, the best and easiest way to get back to the original state would be a copy of the latest firmware.. If it doesn't exist you're somewhat out of luck, please refer to this link for further help & information..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help
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Hello & welcome to xda-assist,
If you rooted the device you changed the system /kernel in the process, if root is all you done you should be able to unroot by using the unroot option in your root management application, if you did further changes like deleting system apps and so on it gets more complex, the best and easiest way to get back to the original state would be a copy of the latest firmware.. If it doesn't exist you're somewhat out of luck, please refer to this link for further help & information..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help
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Thanks for the reply. So no way to get the extract the original firmware? I don't wish to un-root. The device was set to a very sad state of affairs when I got it, unrooted, with something very unlike the stock firmware and factory date reset not helping at all. Persistently locked into a lower version of Android than it was not meant for and not running the drivers or software it would seem I need to make it function properly that came with the device.
Basically it lead to my curiosity of how one goes about extracting or mining the data that is stored somewhere on the device if all I did was root. Which is all I did.
It should still be there. Basically how do I get to it?
The link takes me back to the forums for help, however I found no help there after much searching before I asked here but thanks
Duende101 said:
Thanks for the reply. So no way to get the extract the original firmware? I don't wish to un-root. The device was set to a very sad state of affairs when I got it, unrooted, with something very unlike the stock firmware and factory date reset not helping at all. Persistently locked into a lower version of Android than it was not meant for and not running the drivers or software it would seem I need to make it function properly that came with the device.
Basically it lead to my curiosity of how one goes about extracting or mining the data that is stored somewhere on the device if all I did was root. Which is all I did.
It should still be there. Basically how do I get to it?
The link takes me back to the forums for help, however I found no help there after much searching before I asked here but thanks
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The intended of xda-assist is to direct you to the most suitable board of xda, we do not solve issues for you or do technical support, please be patient, it often takes time for exotic devices / questions to be seen by someone who can give hints and answers..
Edit: but it's not that the original firmware is stored somewhere on the device by default where you can grab it and reinstall it..
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Sam Nakamura said:
The intended of xda-assist is to direct you to the most suitable board of xda, we do not solve issues for you or do technical support, please be patient, it often takes time for exotic devices / questions to be seen by someone who can give hints and answers..
Edit: but it's not that the original firmware is stored somewhere on the device by default where you can grab it and reinstall it..
Sent from my OnePlus 2 using XDA Labs
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Totally cool. It's a tough question.
The OG firmware thing is the toughest part to understand. Just wanted to make sure I was clear in my explanation and question.
Hi everyone,
Not sure how to put it, because I'm not trying to do anything illegal here, nor am I trying to make you guys cough up tips & tricks that could land you in jail in your respective countries, so just bear with me on a hypothetical level, OK?
My phone is a Leagoo T5c that shipped with Android 7.0. As such, it isn't de facto Project Treble compatible, and I shouldn't dream of flashing an AOSP GSI on it.
Thing is, I read this thread in the forum where it says explicitly that some devices can be made to be Treble compatible somehow.
If so, how? Does it involve rooting the device (suppose so, but I may be wrong), enlist it with Google someway or another, or something else?
I'm asking this because as some of you may know now, I would really like to upgrade the Android version on this phone, and have been hitting a brickwall for some time now, so before I completely ditch the idea and throw the phone away (not likely, because I don't have the money to buy another one at the moment), I want to make sure I've investigated all possible avenues.
Color me thorough. (or stubborn.)
EDIT: Where is the picture I uploaded? I only see its description at the end of my post, but I can't see the picture itself.
UglyStuff said:
Hi everyone,
Not sure how to put it, because I'm not trying to do anything illegal here, nor am I trying to make you guys cough up tips & tricks that could land you in jail in your respective countries, so just bear with me on a hypothetical level, OK?
My phone is a Leagoo T5c that shipped with Android 7.0. As such, it isn't de facto Project Treble compatible, and I shouldn't dream of flashing an AOSP GSI on it.
Thing is, I read this thread in the forum where it says explicitly that some devices can be made to be Treble compatible somehow.
If so, how? Does it involve rooting the device (suppose so, but I may be wrong), enlist it with Google someway or another, or something else?
I'm asking this because as some of you may know now, I would really like to upgrade the Android version on this phone, and have been hitting a brickwall for some time now, so before I completely ditch the idea and throw the phone away (not likely, because I don't have the money to buy another one at the moment), I want to make sure I've investigated all possible avenues.
Color me thorough. (or stubborn.)
EDIT: Where is the picture I uploaded? I only see its description at the end of my post, but I can't see the picture itself.
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You would have to have an unlocked bootloader TWRP for your device, without that, there is no point in trying to find a GSI for your device and there is no point in trying to find a way to force your device to be Treble compatible.
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Droidriven said:
You would have to have an unlocked bootloader TWRP for your device, without that, there is no point in trying to find a GSI for your device and there is no point in trying to find a way to force your device to be Treble compatible.
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Hi, and thanks for taking the time!
I'm still trying to get the hang of it all, but my device is rooted, bootloader is unlocked in Settings, and TWRP is installed. What exactly would I need to do in TWRP to install a GSI on my phone?
Pardon me if I sound obtuse, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around how a rooted Android phone works and performs.
UglyStuff said:
Hi, and thanks for taking the time!
I'm still trying to get the hang of it all, but my device is rooted, bootloader is unlocked in Settings, and TWRP is installed. What exactly would I need to do in TWRP to install a GSI on my phone?
Pardon me if I sound obtuse, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around how a rooted Android phone works and performs.
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I'm not sure, in the link that you posted, it mentions making a device treble compatible and references a link that supposedly discusses the required files to flash. But when I went to that page, I didn't see anything that said anything about what needed to be flashed or modified to make a device compatible.
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Droidriven said:
I'm not sure, in the link that you posted, it mentions making a device treble compatible and references a link that supposedly discusses the required files to flash. But when I went to that page, I didn't see anything that said anything about what needed to be flashed or modified to make a device compatible.
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Same here. In his preamble, the author alludes to the fact that for devices that don't exactly fit Treble requirements, there ***would*** be a way to make them Treble-compatible anyhow, but it doesn't say how.
I'm also still unsure what GSI I should choose, anyway: the SoC on my phone is an x86_64 chip, but it supports arm64 instructions, as, I suppose, all Android-capable chipsets do, so if I were to try and flash a GSI, should I use one for x86_64, or the arm64 version?
I know there's a compatibility layer in most x86 chips for Android, but what would be the best choice, from an end-user standpoint?
I'm searching these forums, the web, every single website, and I still haven't came across a solution. Cyanogen, clockworkmod, they don't want to cooperate. I really am desperate now.
I'm trying to find a way to easily run a ROM on my phone, or maybe just install it. I'm aiming for Kitkat, but I have no idea how, as almost all of the posts on this forum contain broken links. Please, someone help!!!
Alex
Tell me about your fone.
Whats your skill set, as in do you KNOW how to unlock bootloader? Do you know how to root?
Firmware creators are too busy creating firmware. And fixing Bugs.
If your a noob, I can handle that, in effect, I need more information, because all those broken links are irelevant when what you actually need is found in millions of posts here..
The very reason developers dont answer
Pachacouti said:
Tell me about your fone.
Whats your skill set, as in do you KNOW how to unlock bootloader? Do you know how to root?
Firmware creators are too busy creating firmware. And fixing Bugs.
If your a noob, I can handle that, in effect, I need more information, because all those broken links are irelevant when what you actually need is found in millions of posts here..
The very reason developers dont answer
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Okay.
My phone is a Samsung Galaxy W. It's model number is SGH-T679M and it is currently running Gingerbread.
And so I wanted to change that version because... Gingerbread is unsupported, right? So I landed on this forum first, trying out all the ways that I could, and most of them lead me to dead links as I said.
So I went on different web pages, the Android subreddit, all that. Ended up finding this zip file supposedly containing KitKat or something earlier.
I tried to install it how they told me. Already knew how to go into recovery mode, then it told me to go to the apply update from sd card (used the internal storage instead because i could) and it said the MODEL NUMBER WAS WRONG.
It was for the Samsung Exhibit II, model I8150, and that makes no sense. Because they are LITERALLY THE SAME PHONE.
Thought this was gonna be simple but it was being rough on me. This is why I need help, because I honestly don't know what to do anymore. It is so confusing.
Look at this:
h**ps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et0AnYkBlc4
correct the link above copy n paste in your browser
Then say if you can handle the work, nothing more. If you are up for it, your best here
Pachacouti said:
Look at this:
h**ps://www.you tube.com/watch?v=et0AnYkBlc4
Then say if you can handle the work, nothing more. If you are up for it, your best here
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Thank you, I will try it. I'll keep you updated if i didn't mess something up lol
Sincerely, Alex