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Using Faux rom (Kernal version 2.6.32.41-CM7-Faux123-v0.2.3)
I was able to get a crazy amount of life out of the G2x! Anyone else able to get some times like this?
When I first got the phone it would only get about 4 hours.
i've been on 11 hours, Nexus AOSP, and am at 85%
With SetCPU and underclocking when idle or on calls?
Is Juice Defender involved?
Exclusively on GSM?
Are Auto Sync and GPS off at all times?
Please provide context.
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jabhome said:
With SetCPU and underclocking when idle or on calls?
Is Juice Defender involved?
Exclusively on GSM?
Are Auto Sync and GPS off at all times?
Please provide context.
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Yes, setcpu and some UC, phone goes to min processor on screen off
Juice defender set to standard
data set to auto
auto sync gmail, gps only on demand
note today was a very, very light day of use. Yesterday I used it moderately, checking emails, maybe a call or two and several hours of music and was at 50% after about 14 hours.
Zspy1985 said:
Using Faux rom (Kernal version 2.6.32.41-CM7-Faux123-v0.2.3)
I was able to get a crazy amount of life out of the G2x! Anyone else able to get some times like this?
When I first got the phone it would only get about 4 hours.
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I have tried virtually every ROM and kernel combination for the G2X and for my phone and usage pattern I have had the best luck when I returned back to CM7, currently RC1 without OC/UV kernels, without SetCPU/PimpMyCPU, and without Juice Defender, or any similar such programs. My gains appear to be achieved by better efficiency with the screen off. The only modification that can be responsible other than CM7 itself is that I have the phone 2G only unless I need 4g at which times I turn it on manually. I think this is the actual cause of most of my better battery life.
Recently I went 32 hours of light usage (maybe an estimated 3 hours of phone calls and 2 hours of actually performing some task in Android) and was at about 35% battery life (although I believe battery percent is totally meaningless on this or any GB Rom for the G2X). I can easily make it sun-up to sundown with moderate to heavy usage unless it involves lengthy playing 3d video games or similar cpu/video intensive tasks.
When I first had the phone (completely stock) the battery would run out before 8 hours even if I didn't use it at all. I think I was getting great battery life with the AOSP ROM (Faux) and Eaglesblood ROM without modification. I am came back to CM7 rather than those others for purely aesthetic reasons.
My conclusions are merely based upon extensive trial and error and subjective impressions. I am not an expert at anything, except perhaps backgammon, lol
2g only is not a fix in my opinion. I purchased a 4g phone for a reason. The software and drivers are still an issue. I get a solid day (12 - 16 hours) out of a single full charge with 3 email acounts checking every 30 min. Surfing the web and a little game play for fun. The screen is the biggest draw on the battery. My battery monitor shows a direct corolation to battery draw and the screen on.
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2g only is not a fix in my opinion. I purchased a 4g phone for a reason. The software and drivers are still an issue. I get a solid day (12 - 16 hours) out of a single full charge with 3 email acounts checking every 30 min. Surfing the web and a little game play for fun. The screen is the biggest draw on the battery. My battery monitor shows a direct corolation to battery draw and the screen on.
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I understand your point, but how often are you actually using 4g. It is not necessary for syncing email or other background tasks, in fact on my phone Pandora runs the same on 2g as 4g. And when you do need the performance of 4g it is 2 clicks away, one swipe to pull down the notifications and another to toggle from 2g to 4g. It connects in about 10 seconds, for me anyway a shorter period of time than it takes me to figure out what I'm doing. 4g appears to be the biggest battery draw with screen off. If you use JuiceDefender you can program it to turn on 4g whenever particular programs are launched.
You are right about the screen it is certainly the biggest draw with screen on. I run a bike computer with gps program. I run it with screen at full bright constantly on, gps running, plus using whatever small amount of use the program uses to operate. At this rate the battery runs out before 4 hours are up.
Oddly making phone calls appears not to drain the phone at all compared to other activities. I've taken my phone of the charger and made a 1.5 hour phone call and hang up and the phone is still at 99%.
23 hours and counting on this charge...
i can get that time on my stock rom one time my phone lasted 1 day 15hrs on stock rom.
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i can get that time on my stock rom one time my phone lasted 1 day 15hrs on stock rom.
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I have no doubt, there is nothing inherently wrong with the stock rom as long as you root it and get rid of the bloatware. Getting bad battery life is more a matter of something being wrong, instead of a particular rom being right.
I don't really understand the battery info built into Android, my uptime right now is just over 16 hours and I am at 25%. Which is good as anyone can expect with normal usage. But what is confusing is the usage breakdown, it lists most items at exactly 19%, Cell Standby, Wi-Fi, Dialer, Android System, and Phone idle. Voice calls is the only other item at 6%.
What the heck is Dialer doing with 19% of my battery!?!?
16 hours so far with 20% left.
8 hours of that was while I was sleeping.
While there was some screen-off time for the other 8 hours, the tasks I was doing included redownloading ALL of my apps manually, applying themes, configuring widgets, browsing xda, email, light texting, and a couple short calls.
I am running CM7 with stock kernal. I have like 40 widgets running (probably an exaggeration). I'm running Juice Defender set to disable data/wifi when screen turns off, and enable it for 2min every 15 min. I also have setcpu running. I increased the min to 456 instead of the default 216 because it seems to keep me from experiencing the black screen of death when I leave it higher. My screen-off profile is 456/456, and my in-call profile is 608/608.
Overall, considering that I keep all syncs set to auto so I get instant notifications of gmail and sms, and it takes all of about 3 seconds to turn the data/wifi back on when I turn the screen on, and I don't have to constantly go back and forth messing with 2g/3g. I am extremely pleased with this phone now.
Been unplugged since I woke up this morning...13H 57M and have 40% left.
That's sending many texts, tweets, and using the GPS app for my round of golf today.
currently at 2 days (actually 1d, 23h, 44m) and I still have 30% left. I would say light to moderate use.
Currently running cm7 on nightly 65 with the stock kernal. No setcpu/pimpmycpu or any juice defenders.
So i've read forums about battery life exceeding 24 hrs...i've seen the topic's about using wifi when available, turning off data, using only 2G, and I've done all that...buuuuut im not getting no where near that life span.
im still getting maybe 5-6 hrs.. and thats just really texting, facebook/twitter (occasionally) and xda app 2-3 times a day.
What gives? Am i just using the phone too much? Is that 24 life span standby only? Someone please explain...Thanks
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Are you using a stock rom, custom rom, stock kernel, custom kernel? Info man, info! I've seem some testers for Morfic's up and coming kernel for cm7 stating their 24+ hrs. I'm using latest cm7 nightlies, faux's kernel and I get 15 hrs light use with full signal. That being said, I think there is already a thread about this; try searching for it, there might be more info. Or I might be wrong.
Using CM7 with stock kernel I get around 24 hours. The best thing you can possibly do is rig up something that will underclock your phone to minimum when the screen is off. PimpMyCPU and SetCPU can both do this, which app you use depends on which kernel you run.
On the stock rom with all of the bloat and without adjusting sync options for all of your apps and accounts, your battery life will be horrible. A lot of bloat auto runs in the background. After removing the bloat, I would get a consistent 12 hours with two email accounts syncing, Facebook, twitter, mutplie pulse feeds, weather etc..
When I turned off data and syncing, removed the sim and just used the phone as a gaming and web/xda browsing device, I got 3 full days of battery life. Yes, 72 hours. This is on cm7, stock kernel. Wifi stayed on for the most part, (set to turn off when the screen turns off) and I spent a couple of hours total gaming on it.
Data KILLS the battery life on this phone. You'll gain a significant amount of battery life by managing the amount of time it runs when you're not using the phone.
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To the OP, you're like most of us and use the phone for entertainment, with constant use the stock battery will be down to about 50%, with watching videos, gaming and browsing the web within 3 hours.
I seriously doubt anyone is getting 24 hours on stock battery even using custom ROMs. It could be that they don't even use the phone, and they have juice defender while it's on sleep, to get such numbers, or they' re exaggerating and posting fake info to push a certain ROM.
As far as 15 hours, that seems to be what the stock battery is able to achieve before it dies. So, no the cm7 ROM is not achieving anything that stock ROM isn't as far as battery life.
I have the mugen 4500mah extended battery, and since having it for about a month now, I can say with heavy usage, i.e. watching movies, listening to radio, playing videogames nonstop constantly, hour after hour, the battery will last you from morning until next day early morning. On very light usage just using it as a phone with very light browsing, out will last you about 2 days. I thought out would last me a week but I seriously don't know what is dreading the battery when on standby, and this is ther problem with the phone.
Maybe it's the apps that are accessing data when not in use and the radio. Right now I'm trying to see if droidwall will help to extend battery life, by not allowing programs to access the network.
I'm currently experimenting with a Tasker setting where the phone drops data to 2g only when the screen is off. I can't turn off data altogether because I use Google Voice for all my texting (save $10/month), otherwise you could save a huge amount of battery by disabling data completely. So far I'm not noticing any change with just 2g.
Well everything i run is stock....i think...im new to all the custom ROMs and stuff...all i did with my phone was use NVflash, clockwork mod and load cm7 nightly (version 75 currently) ....i lovr it and glad i came across this site with TONS of info...i learn new stuff daily by just reading posts on the forum but idk how to use custom kernels or load them or any of that...i dont want to start talking about that here since im sure theres a post about it in the forum ....but i just didnt know if that battery life span is capable of being reached or it was a load of crap....
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I bought a new Nexus S off eBay recently. It came with Android 2.3.4 but I ran the update.zip files to get it up to 4.0.4 and am now awaiting JB OTA. Plan to keep this thing completely stock for the time being, so I'm especially interested in battery expectations for a totally stock phone.
My phone came with some cheap-o third party battery. It's only 1400 mAh, and it is NOT the OEM Samsung battery. I'm getting HORRIBLE battery life with it. See attached screen shots, which show battery loss of nearly 7% per hour IN AIRPLANE MODE, WIFI OFF, PHONE NOT BEING USED AT ALL. You can also see that there were no wake locks, and that the phone was in deep sleep for 99% of time off battery. Yes, it was losing 7% per hour even in that state.
I assume that the third-party battery that I have is just ridiculously crappy and cheap. Can anybody give me an idea of what a reasonable expectation of battery life should be with the OEM Samsung battery? I'm assuming I should be able to get 3-4 hours screen-on time + 14-16 hours off-charger. All I will be using the phone for is browsing web, email, and XDA. No gaming, no movies, no music. So I'm hoping 3+ hours screen on & 14+ hours off-charger is a reasonable expectation with OEM Samsung battery.
If anybody can confirm that my third-party battery just sucks and I should get better battery life with an OEM battery, I would greatly appreciate it. If this is normal battery life with OEM battery while in AIRPLANE MODE and not even using the phone, then I don't think I can tolerate that.
Many thanks.
You should get that which you estimate. I have an oem battery on stock 4.0.4 and get those sort of hours even though it is about 18months old.
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You should get that which you estimate. I have an oem battery on stock 4.0.4 and get those sort of hours even though it is about 18months old.
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Awesome. Thanks for the info. Shocking how terrible this third-party battery that came with the phone is. Can't wait until OEM battery arrives!
The battery management on this phone isn't good compared to my previous phone. I've just learned to deal with it. Carry an extra charger. Your guess is about right. On a good day, my phone will last about 17 hours with almost 3 hours screen on. If its just wifi data usage, I can stretch it a bit more. Unless you plan on crippling your phone, don't expect anything amazing.
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You should get that which you estimate. I have an oem battery on stock 4.0.4 and get those sort of hours even though it is about 18months old.
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The battery management on this phone isn't good compared to my previous phone. I've just learned to deal with it. Carry an extra charger. Your guess is about right. On a good day, my phone will last about 17 hours with almost 3 hours screen on. If its just wifi data usage, I can stretch it a bit more. Unless you plan on crippling your phone, don't expect anything amazing.
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Thanks for the response. 3 hours screen-on + 17 hours standby is fine for me. As you can see from my OP, what I'm currently getting on the crappy third-party non-OEM battery is far worse than that.
for me it's always around 3.5 h screen on with constant 3g/H on.
i didnt experience any significant differences on my battery life with different kernels, roms or tweaks. just my experiences.
one question lads since we r on this topic ;
when i was on customs ics roms with stock kernel, my battery was always charging till 96%, now I'm running Gnex port with stock kernel and my battery is charging until it reach 100% capacity.
is this feature of JB ?
thanks in advance.
I get over 5 hours of screen use in 12-18+ hours :$.... I've done a lot of tweaking though. I'd try to find an extended battery if I were you. This is actually really normal battery life as reported by many other users. Or close enough to 'normal'. Smart phones suck with battery.
@Above: The Nexus S actually only charges to 96%. Anything past that is just a cosmetic effect. Meaning it isn't really charging past 96%. Your custom kernels probably just limited the charging percent. The stock JB kernel wouldn't do that.
Nexus S (GMS i9020a)
Paranoid (1.6 - 4.0.4)
Matrix Kernel (CFS - 20.0)
Ondemmand (800/100)
Deep Idle (On - Noop)
Live OC - 105 (400/800)
BLX - 98 (Inverted Apps)
I get 2H voice calls on 2G with 30% signal, 3H screen on time, half of it is wifi browsing, some is videos/media, some is News apps, and still have 25% left.
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I get over 5 hours of screen use in 12-18+ hours :$.... I've done a lot of tweaking though. I'd try to find an extended battery if I were you. This is actually really normal battery life as reported by many other users. Or close enough to 'normal'. Smart phones suck with battery.
@Above: The Nexus S actually only charges to 96%. Anything past that is just a cosmetic effect. Meaning it isn't really charging past 96%. Your custom kernels probably just limited the charging percent. The stock JB kernel wouldn't do
r u getting 5hs+ while using 3g/h connection?
if yes could share ur knowledge how to do it?
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309041291a said:
I get over 5 hours of screen use in 12-18+ hours :$.... I've done a lot of tweaking though. I'd try to find an extended battery if I were you. This is actually really normal battery life as reported by many other users. Or close enough to 'normal'. Smart phones suck with battery.
@Above: The Nexus S actually only charges to 96%. Anything past that is just a cosmetic effect. Meaning it isn't really charging past 96%. Your custom kernels probably just limited the charging percent. The stock JB kernel wouldn't do
r u getting 5hs+ while using 3g/h connection?
if yes could share ur knowledge how to do it?
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Normally I use 3G. I tried 2G + WiFi and I got close to 6 hours. Just mess around with your phone a bit
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Paranoid (1.6 - 4.0.4)
Matrix Kernel (CFS - 20.0)
Ondemmand (800/100)
Deep Idle (On - Noop)
Live OC - 105 (400/800)
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charged through usb, might be alive longer than usually.
Thanks for all the replies,
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Yeah I only get about 10 hours max, airplane mode, no screen usage. Stock battery, plus tried a third party battery. Same issue.
My screen on battery time isn't too bad, it's just like... my phone doesn't know how to idle or something. But no wakelocks etc. Tried stock, a few roms, a few kernels, battery calibration, removing all apps, nothing changes it.
Have to charge twice a day if I even start doing some light usage
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Yeah I only get about 10 hours max, airplane mode, no screen usage. Stock battery, plus tried a third party battery. Same issue.
My screen on battery time isn't too bad, it's just like... my phone doesn't know how to idle or something. But no wakelocks etc. Tried stock, a few roms, a few kernels, battery calibration, removing all apps, nothing changes it.
Have to charge twice a day if I even start doing some light usage
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I have the SPH-D720 (NS4G) and my settings are:
100/800 MHz; NO OC & NO UV
Sio ~ OnDemand
Airplane Mode (Deactivated Phone) NO Mobile DATA
Matr1x v22 CFS
Deep IDLE ON
AOKP Milestone 6
1600 mAh Anker
I use 50% Screen Brightness and i can manage anywhere from 10-28Hours.
Yesterday i woke up turned on my phone @ 100% and didn't touch it for 8Hours and it only dropped 2%. Netflix 5Hours of screen on time. At the end of the day i managed this. Screenies below
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I have the SPH-D720 (NS4G) and my settings are:
100/800 MHz; NO OC & NO UV
Sio ~ OnDemand
Airplane Mode (Deactivated Phone) NO Mobile DATA
Matr1x v22 CFS
Deep IDLE ON
AOKP Milestone 6
1600 mAh Anker
I use 50% Screen Brightness and i can manage anywhere from 10-28Hours.
Yesterday i woke up turned on my phone @ 100% and didn't touch it for 8Hours and it only dropped 2%. Netflix 5Hours of screen on time. At the end of the day i managed this. Screenies below
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try 2 achieve this on 3G/H ;-)
mejobloggs said:
Yeah I only get about 10 hours max, airplane mode, no screen usage. Stock battery, plus tried a third party battery. Same issue.
My screen on battery time isn't too bad, it's just like... my phone doesn't know how to idle or something. But no wakelocks etc. Tried stock, a few roms, a few kernels, battery calibration, removing all apps, nothing changes it.
Have to charge twice a day if I even start doing some light usage
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10 hours in airplane mode is really bad. Are you sure you don't have any apps that are constantly syncing? Have you disabled Google Backup Transport. I had my Nexus on airplane mode all day yesterday and it still had plenty of juice left after 12 hours.
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try 2 achieve this on 3G/H ;-)
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not hard at all. ill give it ago, and see what i can whip up
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not hard at all. ill give it ago, and see what i can whip up
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ok
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Here u go
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Hi just got my nexus 5 like a week ago.
First i was very exited and thrilled the device is amazing.
But ever since i got the device i cant go through a day of 8-10 hours with this 2300 mah battery.
I tried flashing franco kernel also bricked kernel, turned nfc of auto wifi detection google hotword and such, but no use.
Still cant go through 6 hours with screen on for like 30 minutes.
Please help me if you found a good way to save battery on our beloved nexus 5...
Currently not running stock, running dirty unicorn rom which drain like 2% per minute or two of screen on....
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Hi just got my nexus 5 like a week ago.
First i was very exited and thrilled the device is amazing.
But ever since i got the device i cant go through a day of 8-10 hours with this 2300 mah battery.
I tried flashing franco kernel also bricked kernel, turned nfc of auto wifi detection google hotword and such, but no use.
Still cant go through 6 hours with screen on for like 30 minutes.
Please help me if you found a good way to save battery on our beloved nexus 5...
Currently not running stock, running dirty unicorn rom which drain like 2% per minute or two of screen on....
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Don't know what's up but if you can't do 6 hrs with 30 min sot then you have a real problem somewhere. The only thing I turn off is NFC and hotword. Running Chaos kernel, stock rom. I had 16 hrs with 4hr 30 min sot the other day.
Dl better battery stats and figure out what's using your battery.
Could be a borked phone too. It happens.
Go back to the factory image and run that for a few days to see if your have a similar problem. You should be getting much better battery life. Also, use bbs to see where the battery is being used.
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Don't know what's up but if you can't do 6 hrs with 30 min sot then you have a real problem somewhere. The only thing I turn off is NFC and hotword. Running Chaos kernel, stock rom. I had 16 hrs with 4hr 30 min sot the other day.
Dl better battery stats and figure out what's using your battery.
Could be a borked phone too. It happens.
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Thanks man ill give it a try.
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Switch to 2G, turn off auto wifi scanning, low your brightness (not auto), turn off sound and vibration, log out google+ and turn off all notifications of every app, use franco kernel with stock rom, turn off google now, turn off bluetooth and nfc, download greenify and greenify all unneccesary apps. Maybe this helps. Good luck bro
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Switched to 3g wifi scanning is off also handled the brightness.
Will try everything else Thanks!
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Go back to the factory image and run that for a few days to see if your have a similar problem. You should be getting much better battery life. Also, use bbs to see where the battery is being used.
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Thanks
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Switch to 2G, turn off auto wifi scanning, low your brightness (not auto), turn off sound and vibration, log out google+ and turn off all notifications of every app, use franco kernel with stock rom, turn off google now, turn off bluetooth and nfc, download greenify and greenify all unneccesary apps. Maybe this helps. Good luck bro
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All of that will help but he shouldn't have to ANY of this to get better results than he's getting. Severely crippling your phone is not the answer. There's something else going on to get the results he's been getting.
Weird i get atleast 13 Hours with atleast 2 hours screen time
mostly on cellular and streaming pandora (LTE)
Im 100% stock btw location settings set to battery saver
Try Purity ROM and Franco Kernel. Also Better Battery Stats to see what's eating it. I get 1-2% loss in 8 hrs at night (wifi off, airplane mode), and up to 5 days if not using it much (always on). At least 24 hours under my normal use (even playing CandyCrush for an hour or two, checking mail, and tweaking apps). I get zero bars at home so I switch to airplane mode anytime I'm home. Turn off all syncing (I do have Calendar sync on), I manually sync contacts every week or two. I receive 30-40 emails per day (I use K9). Don't listen to music (since I'm at a PC most of the time and use it). I typically have wifi on at work and home, otherwise off not scanning. I have my Nexus 7 set up the same way, the Nexus 5 gets better life. I also don't use phone data much, I only make calls, and use it on wifi (I do have a Paygo plan at 10 cents/mb in case I need it)... PTEL $100/yr plan; been on it 2 months and still have $90 left (and was discounted to $78 to start with!) Very happy with battery on N5!
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Try Purity ROM and Franco Kernel. Also Better Battery Stats to see what's eating it. I get 1-2% loss in 8 hrs at night (wifi off, airplane mode), and up to 5 days if not using it much (always on). At least 24 hours under my normal use (even playing CandyCrush for an hour or two, checking mail, and tweaking apps). I get zero bars at home so I switch to airplane mode anytime I'm home. Turn off all syncing (I do have Calendar sync on), I manually sync contacts every week or two. I receive 30-40 emails per day (I use K9). Don't listen to music (since I'm at a PC most of the time and use it). I typically have wifi on at work and home, otherwise off not scanning. I have my Nexus 7 set up the same way, the Nexus 5 gets better life. I also don't use phone data much, I only make calls, and use it on wifi (I do have a Paygo plan at 10 cents/mb in case I need it)... PTEL $100/yr plan; been on it 2 months and still have $90 left (and was discounted to $78 to start with!) Very happy with battery on N5!
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Thanks going to give it a try!
Tried stock with chaos kernel and with franco definitely better on franco but still terrible battery life.
Download battery doctor and got about extra 3 hours per day.
So far, awesome here. 67%, playing games like Asphalt, Hungry Shark, and listening to music all day. Only 2pm now. Unplugged at 7:15am.
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tomer007 said:
Tried stock with chaos kernel and with franco definitely better on franco but still terrible battery life.
Download battery doctor and got about extra 3 hours per day.
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Where is that BetterBatteryStats log?
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Where is that BetterBatteryStats log?
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Ain't showing anything unusual just screen processor and os.
To the OP: I'm getting great battery life from my Nex 5 on stock 4.4.2 and stock kernel - better, in fact, than my Galaxy S4. I would recommend always returning to a completely clean stock build and adjusting in small increments from there; this at least might help you to isolate the problem (or problems).
I'm on 3G most of the time, wifi at home; NFC, GPS and location turned off.
For Facebook I use the Lifehacker tip of deleting the appalling Facebook app and just running a bookmark to the mobile FB website in Chrome. So much better.
One thing that has massively improved my battery life is Lux Auto Brightness - paid version. This thing, when set up correctly, has improved by battery life by at least a third.
Good hunting. I sincerely hope your phone isn't borked.
Anyone have better battery life on stock kernel than on any custom kernel?
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Anyone have better battery life on stock kernel than on any custom kernel?
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Yup, haven't had a custom kernel beat my SoT and idle drain, and tried most of them. Including wakelock blocking, underclocking, etc. Stock remains best by far, here.
Ymmv and sure some kernel fans will chime in and claim completely otherwise, and that's just fine :good:
For now enjoying 10+ hours of SoT and draining 3% per night being idle using the amazing stock kernel
I'm getting about the same, MAYBE a little better on EX Kernel. I use the custom kennel for features usually.
* Increase vibration strength
* Lower minimum MHz for less per drain when idle
* Increase Mac sound volume
* Disable swap file and Zram
* Increase read ahead to 2048kb (ideal with 32gb or more storage)
With the 7 pro I'm getting better battery then my op6 and I have forced 90hz all apps enabled 24/7 and resolution set to auto switch.
i do kernel tweaking on my own but not a custom kernel. Im on the latest h2os and i get 9 hours sot average. idle drain overnight for 8 hours is about 2%
Personally I don't run a custom kernel for power savings, I run it for wireguard support. The best way I've found to increase battery life and reduce idle drain is running xXx magisk ROM and debloating the crap out of the OS
Yeah, best battery and performance balance is the stock kernel.
Stock kernel...I don't need to look at the screen for 10 hours...doing what I do is more then enough to last for more than a day...
just hit 50% battery and I'm at over 6 hours screen on time
2 days 5 hours off charger with 7 hours screen time.
I don't know how some of you can achieve 10h SoT I literally tried everything - all kernels, debloaters, used Swifted to force most of apps to run in dark/black mode, used Automate to toggle off wifi/BT/kill unused apps that use resources in background (like fb etc), some magisk modules, kernel tweaks - I did all of that with all sorts of combinations (not all at once) and basically I couldn't improve bettery life by any noticeable margin, getting 6, sometimes 7 SoT, my goal was 8-8,5.
I don't any heavy lifting - main usage is Hangouts, Gmail, Facebook (maybe that is the killer?), Messenger, Chrome and sometimes other (telegram etc) - Never any gaming nor heavy programs.
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Yup, haven't had a custom kernel beat my SoT and idle drain, and tried most of them. Including wakelock blocking, underclocking, etc. Stock remains best by far, here.
Ymmv and sure some kernel fans will chime in and claim completely otherwise, and that's just fine :good:
For now enjoying 10+ hours of SoT and draining 3% per night being idle using the amazing stock kernel
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I'd try sticking to the stock kernel, the problem is that OTG doesn't work properly.
Lirannl said:
I'd try sticking to the stock kernel, the problem is that OTG doesn't work properly.
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Exactly what doesn't work properly? Can't find any peculiarities.
spawnn617 said:
I don't know how some of you can achieve 10h SoT I literally tried everything - all kernels, debloaters, used Swifted to force most of apps to run in dark/black mode, used Automate to toggle off wifi/BT/kill unused apps that use resources in background (like fb etc), some magisk modules, kernel tweaks - I did all of that with all sorts of combinations (not all at once) and basically I couldn't improve bettery life by any noticeable margin, getting 6, sometimes 7 SoT, my goal was 8-8,5.
I don't any heavy lifting - main usage is Hangouts, Gmail, Facebook (maybe that is the killer?), Messenger, Chrome and sometimes other (telegram etc) - Never any gaming nor heavy programs.
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I think some of those messaging apps (or ones that require syncing or wait for push notifications) are the cause.
You wont see the battery page showing that they consume so much battery because in a way they dont (as they are not in the foreground or doing any heavy computation). But i found that these apps prevent the phone from deep sleep.
You can find out by using things like Better battery status to see the wakelock/alarms of those apps. Some of apps wake up the divice periodically so frequently....
But on the other hand if you want to get notifications from an app and it is poorly designed (drains unnecessary amount battery), there is no way to avoid it. But if you just use jt occasionally and dont need timely notification, try using Servicely to disable wakelock/services of the app (requires root and may break the app, but you can just enable those disabled things to restore the app).
kezzuki said:
I think some of those messaging apps (or ones that require syncing or wait for push notifications) are the cause.
You wont see the battery page showing that they consume so much battery because in a way they dont (as they are not in the foreground or doing any heavy computation). But i found that these apps prevent the phone from deep sleep.
You can find out by using things like Better battery status to see the wakelock/alarms of those apps. Some of apps wake up the divice periodically so frequently....
But on the other hand if you want to get notifications from an app and it is poorly designed (drains unnecessary amount battery), there is no way to avoid it. But if you just use jt occasionally and dont need timely notification, try using Servicely to disable wakelock/services of the app (requires root and may break the app, but you can just enable those disabled things to restore the app).
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Yeah I suspected that as well and did track Wakelocks. I used Automate to kill Messenger and FB in background when the screen is off, also tried few other tricks and amount of % of deep sleep while screen is of was better - starting from 30% awake while screen off to as low as less than 10% but... Battery train in idle was the same and generally battery life didn't improve at all... Strange but True. That's why I went back to all stock without any tricks..
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Yeah I suspected that as well and did track Wakelocks. I used Automate to kill Messenger and FB in background when the screen is off, also tried few other tricks and amount of % of deep sleep while screen is of was better - starting from 30% awake while screen off to as low as less than 10% but... Battery train in idle was the same and generally battery life didn't improve at all... Strange but True. That's why I went back to all stock without any tricks..
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hummm...well right now im on blu_spark and this is the best battery life i am getting. My set up is described here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/development/kernel-t3944179/post79844206
i think im stuck in the same shoe as you cus i rely on Wechat,google sync and a Bluetooth fitness band so the device is going to use quite a bit battery but i managed to get this far...
And battery life is what i require most out of a phone lol
here is a screen shot of battery usesage, its still early in the day but.
I expect screen on consumption will go to about 7.5~8% / hour when the day goes by, like usual.
One interesting thing is that, lol, i never tried stock kernel lol And seeing (in this thread) how people get good sot with stock kernel makes me wanna try it lol will give it a shot over the weekend
kezzuki said:
I think some of those messaging apps (or ones that require syncing or wait for push notifications) are the cause.
You wont see the battery page showing that they consume so much battery because in a way they dont (as they are not in the foreground or doing any heavy computation). But i found that these apps prevent the phone from deep sleep.
You can find out by using things like Better battery status to see the wakelock/alarms of those apps. Some of apps wake up the divice periodically so frequently....
But on the other hand if you want to get notifications from an app and it is poorly designed (drains unnecessary amount battery), there is no way to avoid it. But if you just use jt occasionally and dont need timely notification, try using Servicely to disable wakelock/services of the app (requires root and may break the app, but you can just enable those disabled things to restore the app).
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kezzuki said:
hummm...well right now im on blu_spark and this is the best battery life i am getting. My set up is described here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/development/kernel-t3944179/post79844206
i think im stuck in the same shoe as you cus i rely on Wechat,google sync and a Bluetooth fitness band so the device is going to use quite a bit battery but i managed to get this far...
And battery life is what i require most out of a phone lol
here is a screen shot of battery usesage, its still early in the day but.
I expect screen on consumption will go to about 7.5~8% / hour when the day goes by, like usual.
One interesting thing is that, lol, i never tried stock kernel lol And seeing (in this thread) how people get good sot with stock kernel makes me wanna try it lol will give it a shot over the weekend
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Well yours stats look great, I would like to have stats like that as you said, using BT devices connected and messaging app I know I will not hit crazy SoT but still I want a bit better cause as you said battery is like too 1 priority for me I see we are very similar users thanks, in fact I didn't try blue-spark so far, I will give it a shot! I know standy drain will be laso related to Wi-Fi / 4g coverage (low signal = big drain) but I don't think I have such bad signal so I won't to get at least not more that 1% idlle drain per hour and 8-9% on screen and I'm good.
BTW what's your screen brightness usually?
spawnn617 said:
Well yours stats look great, I would like to have stats like that as you said, using BT devices connected and messaging app I know I will not hit crazy SoT but still I want a bit better cause as you said battery is like too 1 priority for me I see we are very similar users thanks, in fact I didn't try blue-spark so far, I will give it a shot! I know standy drain will be laso related to Wi-Fi / 4g coverage (low signal = big drain) but I don't think I have such bad signal so I won't to get at least not more that 1% idlle drain per hour and 8-9% on screen and I'm good.
BTW what's your screen brightness usually?
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yea lol our needs are very similar.
I just set screen brightness to auto, which changes between 30% ~ 50% when im indoor, whihc is like 90% of time. Then the rest is outdoor at noon lunch time during which screen goes to full brightness for a while.
Oh i also use OLED friendly wall papers and black theme in apps if available.
Ok so your screen brightness and setting (dark theme etc) is same as mine, so this is trsnge why I'm getting almost 2x worse drain... Must try this kernel.
spawnn617 said:
Ok so your screen brightness and setting (dark theme etc) is same as mine, so this is trsnge why I'm getting almost 2x worse drain... Must try this kernel.
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i also forgot to mention that, with PlusBeat, the screen off drain goes up to 1.2 per hour.....and that is because of the wakeups...so i disabled it lol
7+ hours