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Hi,
this may be a stupid question but I'm owner of a xoom for 1 week now (got it pretty cheap on amazon cyber monday) and am actually quite fond of it. To my question:
I'm actually quite surprised by the user experience on 3.2, it's very responsive and fast so I'm asking myself if rooting is even necessary? Also looking in advance to the official release of ICS, which is supposed to come pretty quick for the xoom.
Is it worth it? If yes, which ROM would you recommend?
Thanks!
overclocking is worth it. most of us run rock solid @1.5
not to mention all the other things you can do...
I agree, rooting and using custom roms and kernels adds lots of functions that you otherwise wouldn't have, like being able to write to the micro sdcard and using usb host mode.
I love the setup in my signature and highly recommend it.
There is the expected ICS update, but I think it's still months away. Our developers are working on ports of ICS as we speak, so chances are that we might have it in a custom rom before the Xoom gets the OTA update.
Then that's settled. Thank's for the help guys!
okantomi said:
I agree, rooting and using custom roms and kernels adds lots of functions that you otherwise wouldn't have, like being able to write to the micro sdcard and using usb host mode.
I love the setup in my signature and highly recommend it.
There is the expected ICS update, but I think it's still months away. Our developers are working on ports of ICS as we speak, so chances are that we might have it in a custom rom before the Xoom gets the OTA update.
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hi okantomi,
i use rooted xoom but i dont do overclock due to battery drainage. Is it true that more you overclock the device more your battery drains? I am confused. I want to overclock and again want to save battery. what can i do? plz help.
raihankabir_1 said:
hi okantomi,
i use rooted xoom but i dont do overclock due to battery drainage. Is it true that more you overclock the device more your battery drains? I am confused. I want to overclock and again want to save battery. what can i do? plz help.
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yup OC = more battery usage.
if you OC with setcpu you can use profiles and set the clockspped to batt level,temp...
Profiles work really well to save battery under certain scenarios, also you can undervolt a bit to save battery...you will have to experiment a bit with that though, too much undervolting won't support the clock speed you have it set at...(do you follow?)...there have been a couple of good threads on this topic.
Hey guys,
So, I was wondering.. I am new to the all android experience, I am learning and I am enjoying tweaking and messing around with my phone.
Problem is that I am really un knowledgeable when it comes to kernels and roms..
I tested at least 5 kernels today and tbh apart from system performance on antutu i'm not seeing much, i'm wondering how people can reach 19 hours on here when no matter which rom or kernel I pick my phone just keeps draining pretty fast when i'm playing games..
I want to learn, to understand more.. but for that, I need help.
I want to know how to select a good rom, a good kernel, what features to look at, how to mess with voltages and etc..
I would love to learn, so someday I can be the one assisting other android users.
MrFishiz said:
Hey guys,
So, I was wondering.. I am new to the all android experience, I am learning and I am enjoying tweaking and messing around with my phone.
Problem is that I am really un knowledgeable when it comes to kernels and roms..
I tested at least 5 kernels today and tbh apart from system performance on antutu i'm not seeing much, i'm wondering how people can reach 19 hours on here when no matter which rom or kernel I pick my phone just keeps draining pretty fast when i'm playing games..
I want to learn, to understand more.. but for that, I need help.
I want to know how to select a good rom, a good kernel, what features to look at, how to mess with voltages and etc..
I would love to learn, so someday I can be the one assisting other android users.
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Only one way to do that : READ READ READ READ and read some more. And don`t be afraid to try things like flashing roms, kernels, recovery`s, mods. Always read the OP`s of the devs well so you`ll know what to do,
gee2012 said:
Only one way to do that : READ READ READ READ and read some more. And don`t be afraid to try things like flashing roms, kernels, recovery`s, mods. Always read the OP`s of the devs well so you`ll know what to do,
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Thing is that most people here are already.. " in the zone " when it comes to knowledge, so they speak the language that I don't understand.. it's like chinese when I first look at it.
How does a beginner evolve like that?
Btw: I was wondering maybe I should test kernels and roms for a period of time instead of periods of hours? because I don't see immediate results I just switch a rom or a kernel not really giving it a chance to evolve
MrFishiz said:
Thing is that most people here are already.. " in the zone " when it comes to knowledge, so they speak the language that I don't understand.. it's like chinese when I first look at it.
How does a beginner evolve like that?
Btw: I was wondering maybe I should test kernels and roms for a period of time instead of periods of hours? because I don't see immediate results I just switch a rom or a kernel not really giving it a chance to evolve
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All you need to know about adroid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510966
Learn how to setup and use adb, unlock the bootloader and return to stock if need be? See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513701.
Also read this usefull thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507905.
Read this also (for beginners very helpfull) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510966
Installing usb drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510966.
This is a very good start to stop beeing a` NOOB` and eliminate the risk of bricking your phone.
All users start from scratch bro, we all live and learn till the day we die
First don't care about bemchmarks. They mean nothing in term of user experience.
Second a kernel must be tried at least during one or two days.
Third there is no best Rom our best kernel. Golden rule. Each person has different needs and tastes.
And be careful when you see amazing battery times. What matters is phone usage. Good phone network ? Wi-Fi? Localisation always on? And so on.
What surprises you when you play your battery drains? Normal.
What makes difference is 'idle' time. Use Greenify, fight backend running apps.
Some people spend days tweaking their phones, and though don't have time to use it...
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my phone just keeps draining pretty fast when i'm playing games..
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this is normal... what do you expect when you stress the CPU/GPU?
Thing is, you don't just change kernels and run. Many of the efficiencies you gain with custom kernels comes from the tweaks you make to the system made possible by the kernel. These are where you can get increased performance in many respects. Keep in mind, though, no matter what you do, the processors will still be hungry under load and there is not much to do about screen use except brightness control. (i.e. games will kill your battery faster than just about anything else)
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Have you checked into finding out which apps and services may be causing your phone to wake up often, or even not sleep at all? Learn about wakelocks if you haven't already. There are good tools for finding out which ones are affecting your battery life, such as BetterBatteryStats.
Check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827676
start off by reading.. read... and read some more:good:
To start this thread off, I will start by saying ying I am not bashing the developers in any type of way, just giving people my perspective and opinion.
Hello guys,
Let me start by introducing myself. I'm not new to this forums, ask many questions and do lots of research and from my research here is my conclusion.
People normally say they want a custom, stock feel of an android and that's why they flash rooms. If you want a pure droid feel get a Nexus device simple as that. Why flash a rom that takes away originality from the device? Things like S Voice, Samsung Watchon, multi window mode, WiFi calling and etc are very useful in everyday life. It's also what makes the phone better than an iPhone in opinion, the only advantage I see with roms are slight speed advantages and honestly, it isn't by much. I feel like roms are only better for games but if you're rooted, you can over clock your phone when you're playing games and problem solved.
I didn't go too much into detail, just stated a few reasons. Feel free to drop your opinions though, I'd like to hear why some of you think custom roms are better.
i rooted my s3 for the first time a few weeks ago, and the main reason was because i wanted the new 4.4 and heard that it wasn't going to come out for a LONG time through an official update. i was leaning towards buying the nexus 5 but when i found out i could flash a custom rom i tried it right away. i'm extremely happy with my decision because the new rom has been stable and makes the phone brand new again. like you mentioned, its much snappier without all the extra samsung extras.
dreseansr said:
To start this thread off, I will start by saying ying I am not bashing the developers in any type of way, just giving people my perspective and opinion.
Hello guys,
Let me start by introducing myself. I'm not new to this forums, ask many questions and do lots of research and from my research here is my conclusion.
People normally say they want a custom, stock feel of an android and that's why they flash rooms. If you want a pure droid feel get a Nexus device simple as that. Why flash a rom that takes away originality from the device? Things like S Voice, Samsung Watchon, multi window mode, WiFi calling and etc are very useful in everyday life. It's also what makes the phone better than an iPhone in opinion, the only advantage I see with roms are slight speed advantages and honestly, it isn't by much. I feel like roms are only better for games but if you're rooted, you can over clock your phone when you're playing games and problem solved.
I didn't go too much into detail, just stated a few reasons. Feel free to drop your opinions though, I'd like to hear why some of you think custom roms are better.
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you cannot overclock your phone by rooting
you need custom kernel for that
pradeepxtremehacker said:
you cannot overclock your phone by rooting
you need custom kernel for that
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Actually, you can. I've overclocked my phone lol.
It's not just for better performance but in custom ROM everything is better, such as battery life, it's the most important thing after performance.
You can also take the full control of the device after root and install a custom ROM. Games also is very important point for huge number of android user, because the stoke (original) android system cannot run games as smooth as custom ROMs.
Another reason is the lag, lag is a big problem in any android environment and up to now there is no solution for that, however, custom ROMs reduce the lag and make a better feeling for the user.
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dreseansr said:
Actually, you can. I've overclocked my phone lol.
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you cannot
tabnnaj said:
It's not just for better performance but in custom ROM everything is better, such as battery life, it's the most important thing after performance.
You can also take the full control of the device after root and install a custom ROM. Games also is very important point for huge number of android user, because the stoke (original) android system cannot run games as smooth as custom ROMs.
Another reason is the lag, lag is a big problem in any android environment and up to now there is no solution for that, however, custom ROMs reduce the lag and make a better feeling for the user.
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Not in all cases a ROM makes for better performance, and in some cases it actually makes it worse if the ROM is not properly configured. But a ROM can give the device a plain android version without the bloat software from the device manufacturer, thereby increasing performance and stability. In most cases I don't think it increases performance over plain android other then giving access to overclocking and scheduling options
Hello guys,
I was looking for flashing the Pound Linaro Rom by @LoLaTiOn. But I suspect the battery backup is low in that. Can someone give me reviews about this rom. I am kinda new to this so need a lil help. Though I have been following the dev thread for the same, but wanted few answers before flashing it as I cant post in dev thread.
Please any help would be appreciated :fingers-crossed: :good:
Help me guys!!!!
Abhishek Srivastava said:
Hello guys,
I was looking for flashing the Pound Linaro Rom by @LoLaTiOn. But I suspect the battery backup is low in that. Can someone give me reviews about this rom. I am kinda new to this so need a lil help. Though I have been following the dev thread for the same, but wanted few answers before flashing it as I cant post in dev thread.
Please any help would be appreciated :fingers-crossed: :good:
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I see many ppl using Linaro Rom..I really need to know if it is stable and good for daily use..currently I am on Carbon-JB-v 1.8 [4.2.2]. But I dont get much of a battery backup. My main usage is calls, whatsapp n music. Apart from battery i face a familiar issue that while listening to music it gets hanged suddenly n player doesnt respond anymore. I ultimately have reboot it twice to make it work which is very annoying as I am hard core music lover ..So I actually want to know if Linaro (which many r appreciating) or any rom in JB with good battery life n no prob with playing music is available or not.
I am a noob here so need a lil help from u guys:good: Please give me some suggestions n reviews
Experience Pound-20131124-UNOFFICIAL
Hi, everything seems to work and untill know it is the best rom for me! I did face with nasty SOD`s and these are gone to NOT let the processor run at 300Mhz (use a CPU app for that). When Cpu is set to minimum 600Mhz there are no problems with SOD. Short battery lenght is an issue. I hope the new version will fix it.
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Hi, everything seems to work and untill know it is the best rom for me! I did face with nasty SOD`s and these are gone to NOT let the processor run at 300Mhz (use a CPU app for that). When Cpu is set to minimum 600Mhz there are no problems with SOD. Short battery lenght is an issue. I hope the new version will fix it.
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what app u used to hold the processor??..how much backup u get in general with this rom??
Did you find any issue with Music playback..that's too something imp to me
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what app u used to hold the processor??..how much backup u get in general with this rom??
Did you find any issue with Music playback..that's too something imp to me
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I use Cpu Adjuster. No problems with Music playback found and it is now using 8% battery per hour
I've rooted one phone in my history of rooting - the mytouch 4g. I found it very unstable during that process thus my hold off of rooting until now.
I have a Nexus 5, thus me creating a thread in this forum. I know many will just tell me to google or whatever but I rather get someone's actual response to my post.
That said, what is the different between a ROM and a Kernal. And how can one tell if one is better than another?
I think I want what everyone wants in their phones - stability and extended battery life.
Thanks again.
a rom is the ui, it gives the user variables to adjust and can add some features. a kernel is the central control of your whole phone. it ties the cpu to the rest of your phone, and to your ui. the kernel is like the brain, where the rom is like the outside/skin of the body.
hiw do you know which is better? only by trying them out. some phones will like certain kernels better than others, and you wont know which until you try.
Hi,
Sorry to give you a link to explain what is a rom and what is a kernel, but anyway: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=ROM-VS-Kernel, for me it's a good start.
About battery life it's not the rom that will give you better or worse battery life (unless a "bug"), at least the kernel can play its role but it's mainly your use and settings, the apps you use...
If you have a bad signal reception or a rogue apps with a ton of wakelocks, whatever the rom or the kernel, it will be always the same thing.
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Hi,
Sorry to give you a link to explain what is a rom and what is a kernel, but anyway: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=ROM-VS-Kernel, for me it's a good start.
About battery life it's not the rom that will give you better or worse battery life (unless a "bug"), at least the kernel can play its role but it's mainly your use and settings, the apps you use...
If you have a bad signal reception or a rogue apps with a ton of wakelocks, whatever the rom or the kernel, it will be always the same thing.
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Hammer-thanks for the link. Very informative for me and I am sure others.
Doc
TXRaunchy said:
I've rooted one phone in my history of rooting - the mytouch 4g. I found it very unstable during that process thus my hold off of rooting until now.
I have a Nexus 5, thus me creating a thread in this forum. I know many will just tell me to google or whatever but I rather get someone's actual response to my post.
That said, what is the different between a ROM and a Kernal. And how can one tell if one is better than another?
I think I want what everyone wants in their phones - stability and extended battery life.
Thanks again.
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I`am not rooted also atm, the device does everything that i need it to do to be honest. Rooting is handy and usefull if you want to use features or do things that cannot be done with the stock configuration. Read the first 4 threads in the General section well if you want to learn the basics of rooting.