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Fuze Problem (Help)

My Fuze got a wet.
I shook out the water
I powered it on. It came on and everything.
It reset itself.
Then I played with it for a while.
Everything seemed fine until I hit the power button. The screen turned off.
I pressed it again and it wouldn't turn on.
Nothing gets the phone back on at this stage, except taking the battery out and powering up again.
I then decided to do the bowl of rice thing and let it sit for about 7 hours.
It is still the same. If I press the power button at the top of device, it turns off.
If I press it quickly after, it turns back on but if I wait a while, lets say 3-5 seconds, it doesn't turn back on.
Also, the water damage sticker has turned light pink, like 65% of it.

any suggestions

I'm afraid there is probably no help. Even if the water dried completely before turning it back on the impurities in the water probably will cause problems.
I had one drop in some water. Powered it off, disassembled it and dried completely. I let it sit for 8 hours, reassembled it and powered it on. It worked for a couple of hours.
Luckily I had insurance on it.

oh ok
what about warranty, i am still covered
the little white box is still white but mostly pink

its kinda crazii that it turns on and everything works
its just that if i turn off the phone or it turns off automatically due to the power settings, it can't turn on.
the soft reset doesn't work and the power buttton atop the phone doesnt work either

w0w!!!
i just powered on my waater damaged 8525 from 2 yrs ago (had a tilt & fuze since) & it works!!!
b4 it would turn on but the screen wouldnt work
you would have to position it @ a certain angle in order to make anything out
it works now, besides needing to hooked up to the charger in order to load up
fuze is still sitting in a bowl of rice
any more ideas, suggestions...etc

ok, i just realizedthat the soft reset button @ da bottom doesnt function @ all
any idea on how to go about fixing this??
itsjust the screen doesnt come back on but device isnt off because the scroll wheel lights still show up
but it shouldnt because the device isnt charging

Can you warranty a device if the sticker is partially pink?

You can try the warranty, but when they see the water sticker is colored, you're likely to be charged for the cost of the phone. Water won't be covered by warranty, only insurance.
If you want to avoid replacing the phone at your cost, then about the only thing I can think of doing is pulling the battery out and cleaning it thouroughly with distilled water (in other words, another dunking). Do that 2-3 times with fresh distilled water to get rid of as many impurities from the other water as you can. Then let it dry for 24-48 hours (getting some dessicants wouldn't hurt to suck out as much water as you can). Then put a battery in and see what happens.
Odds aren't good this will improve things, but it's possible. It's more likely you'll need to get your hands on a new phone.

You could also try to find a broken fuze online, maybe eBay, but no water damage, and swap stickers.

thanks guys
do the silica packs count?
how would you go about switching the stickers?
is there a particular part i can switch from a used fuze to fix my problem?

wutitizshorty said:
thanks guys
do the silica packs count?
how would you go about switching the stickers?
is there a particular part i can switch from a used fuze to fix my problem?
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For the sticker, just carefully take it off a different Fuze, hell maybe even a different phone as long as the sticker fits. Take off the pink one on your Fuze and glue on the new one. Should be good as new.
As for swapping parts, it would probably be too much money and trouble to do that, that'll void your warranty right there anyways and there's a chance you'll never assemble the phone back perfectly. Trust me, it has happened to me a lot when I thought I could swap parts.

I've seen a friend of mine do something with one he got wet that actually worked ... he dipped his entire phone in a bowl of rubbing alochol for a few seconds - the pulled it back out & let it dry out for about 24 hours and it's worked. Obviously take the battery out when you do that....

kinda scared about the rubbing alcohol because the phone works for the most part, just not the reset button
i have other devices so im gonna try the sticker swap for now

well the concepton the alcohol dunk is that you need alcohol that is as close to pure alcohol as possible. rubbing is great as previously mentioned. what it does is that it takes the water and vaporizes with the water. the same concept as adding wine or spirits into a soup. it makes the soup thicker and creamier because there is less water in it.. and it also can be used to fix a situation where you use too much water or something....

[Q] Spilled water on phone. Now "Unable to start wifi" message

Guys, been hanging out here long time now. First incident with about 6 month old captivate. I dropped a glass of water on my captivate yesterday. I immediately removed and took out the battery and wiped it dry. Did not see much of seeped in water so did not do the rice method. Turned on Wi-fi this morning and it says "unable to start wifi". Same with bluetooth.
Call,sms, camera everything works fine. At work, so blew dry the phone and also have kept it next to a warm laptop exhaust. Should I dismantle the phone and try to dry the swb23 chip (wifi/bt) ?
Please help guys !
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thelastjedi said:
Guys, been hanging out here long time now. First incident with about 6 month old captivate. I dropped a glass of water on my captivate yesterday. I immediately removed and took out the battery and wiped it dry. Did not see much of seeped in water so did not do the rice method. Turned on Wi-fi this morning and it says "unable to start wifi". Same with bluetooth.
Call,sms, camera everything works fine. At work, so blew dry the phone and also have kept it next to a warm laptop exhaust. Should I dismantle the phone and try to dry the swb23 chip (wifi/bt) ?
Please help guys !
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You can't see the water that got inside. Would have been better to do the rice method before switching it back on but you should do it now nonetheless. Just be warned, you may have cooked the WiFi chip already.
Are the moisture indicators clear? If so, you should send it for warranty replacement. If not, then you can resort to opening it up, wiping the traces, etc.

ianwood said:
You can't see the water that got inside. Would have been better to do the rice method before switching it back on but you should do it now nonetheless. Just be warned, you may have cooked the WiFi chip already.
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Yeah, pretty much ^^

uggg...may be too late. If you get a significant amount of liquid on or in your phone the worst thing you can do is turn it on.
You should have:
1. immediately removed battery and placed on a paper towel.
2. immediately place phone in a bag of rice for a minimum 24 hours if not 48 before ever powering back on.
Still its worth a try....remove battery and leave in rice for 24 hours....try again....maybe it didn't fry anything when you powered it on...but you definitely need to finish getting the moisture out of the inside via the rice absorption.
I had my old tilt in a pocket submerged in a swimming pool for a good 15 minutes before realizing my blunder. When i realizing it i didn't try to turn it back on. Left it in rice for 48 hours and everything work fine (luckily the phone was powered of when i got in the pool so that probably helped avoid anything frying).

Haha, I once accidently dropped my old Samsung Epix in a bucket of water and it still booted up and worked but most of the features are dead but screen and all still works. It looked like it was wrecked. I got it replaced under my insurance which is a good thing.

Lol.....Captain Hindsight......i love South Park.......
Sent from my pocket.

swedishcancerboi said:
Lol.....Captain Hindsight......i love South Park.......
Sent from my pocket.
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funny
but being aware that you shouldn't turn on an electronic device when it is wet hardly requires hindsight though does it? =)

Thanks guys, I have put my phone in a bowl of rice hoping it will get cured.
If not, will ATT not service my phone under warranty ? I read somewhere that replacing the wifi/bt chip costs $70 with ATT. Has anyone done this here ?
Thanks all for your quick replies ! Much appreciated. I will keep everyone updated on how this issue pans out so it will help someone in the future

Tesist the urge to take out Nd test.....leave at least 24 hours without touching
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

ianwood said:
Are the moisture indicators clear? If so, you should send it for warranty replacement. If not, then you can resort to opening it up, wiping the traces, etc.
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How do I check for the moisture indicator ? Any easy steps ?

It is the white (or not so white anymore) square in the battery compartment.

bames said:
funny
but being aware that you shouldn't turn on an electronic device when it is wet hardly requires hindsight though does it? =)
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I just felt like being ornery. I think i read a "you should have....." and it just got me laughing thinking of that episode. No disrespect intended towards anyone.

swedishcancerboi said:
I just felt like being ornery. I think i read a "you should have....." and it just got me laughing thinking of that episode. No disrespect intended towards anyone.
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i know i thought it as funny haven't seen that episode in a long time...almost as good as towlie
i am just always surprised to see the posts where someone gets there phone wet (washed in laundry, dropped in toilet, spilled significant amount of liquid on it) and the first thing they did was tried to turn it back on almost immediately.

btw if your looking at the moisture indicators for warranty purposes its quite possible you have to completely open the shell. Usually they have one visible without taking the phone apart but its not uncommon to have a secondary marker inside the phone where it would be harder for someone to tamper with. Can anyone confirm where all the cappys markers are?

Been a while since I had mine apart but I don't recall seeing one inside.

newter55 said:
Been a while since I had mine apart but I don't recall seeing one inside.
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wasn't sure....my Tilt2 had one in the battery compartment and one on the motherboard that could only be seen by opening the casing

[Q] Water damaged! need help!

sustained some water damage on my nexus s.... so now the phone keeps switching back and forth from USB/charging to discharging. In the process, as it would when you plug it in, the screen would turns on.. This is terribly annoying as the phone never sleeps! is there anything out there that can remedy this??!?!? like turning off the USB, or an app that puts it to sleep and leaves it asleep no matter what??
or is there a command that tells the phone to turn on i can intercept?
edit* new rom didnt work so its not a runaway app.
thanks in advance.

The app screen off works for this problem.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

Did you pull the battery and let it dry long enough?
I can't think of an app but if I come across one, I will let you know.

I dropped my iPhone down the toilet once, I had a similar problem I turned it off and gave it time to dry, it would be a good idea to put the phone in a bag/cup of rice because it draws moisture from the phone, I gave it a couple of days and it was fine.

risegeek said:
I dropped my iPhone down the toilet once, I had a similar problem I turned it off and gave it time to dry, it would be a good idea to put the phone in a bag/cup of rice because it draws moisture from the phone, I gave it a couple of days and it was fine.
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I've read cat litter works well too...
NEVER use a blow dryer, it can blow the moisture in deeper.

distortedloop said:
I've read cat litter works well too...
NEVER use a blow dryer, it can blow the moisture in deeper.
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Plus, a hot blow dryer will fry the components

Let it sit in a bowl of rice for a day or 2.....that will soak up all the moisture.....if that dnt work idk wat will
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Ironically, the worst thing you can do in this situation is also the first thing that people seem to want to try: Turn the damn thing on. If there is water on any electrical component when you turn it on, that component will fry. For good. Do as others have said and as soon as physically possible put it in a bag of rice. Leave it for a few days. It'll be fine as long as you don't turn it on before its dried out.

Just wanted to repeat how important it is to take and leave the battery out whenever you have water issues. I've left my Sony ericcson phone soaked in a glass of water for four hours before (from snoozing) . Woke up, pulled battery out. Baked parts under low temp for 1 hour and all was dandy. Although you may want to stick to the rice method.
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[Q] A "washed" through laundry HTC Diamond

Hello,
by a rediculous accident I forgot my HTC Diamond in the pocket of my jeans when running the laundry :-(
Afterwards, I opened the cover, took out the battery and let the phone dry out for 2 days. Now I've put it back together, and connected it to the charger. The "ring" is flashing, so the battery is charging but the phone itself is not starting and the display remains completely black, not even the vibration kick on starting...
Is there anything I could do? Or perhaps there is a chance to get out some photos I have shot earlier, would also be something...

ive heard that taking apart your phone and leaving the parts in rice can help (because the rice absorbs moisture)

Off topic:
I read one Desire went through a washing sequence in a washing machine in Desire spesific forum and now this?
Is this a new hobby? I mean... washing smartphone

darkman088 said:
Or perhaps there is a chance to get out some photos I have shot earlier, would also be something...
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If the photos are on your micro sd card, you may be able to plug that into an adapter and plug it into your PC and gain access to them that way. Just be sure that micro sd card is thoroughly dry before doing so.

WORKING !!!
Hello,
thanks for the replies... This morning the phone booted!!! I was able to download the photos!!! But the screen has stains, obviously the remaining water.
PLEASE advise on how to dry that thing completely !!!
I think that I'm gonna pass on the rice thing.
@aaa - YOU ARE A JUNKA$$ !!! You think that's really funny?!? Especially when I'm currently TIGHT on budget and need the money for other things and the next phone is planned no earlier than Christmas... I'm hesitating whether you're a real human being...

You can dry it completely in an oven for three hours at thirty degrees or so. I've done this three times. If you have a fan forced oven, just turn the fans on, that'll be enough.
A safer way (if you can obtain it) is to leave the phone for 24 hours in a bowl of dessicant silica gel. You'll often get a small packet of silica gel when buying new electronics or other moisture-affected things. That small packet is enough, just put it in an airtight bag and leave it for 24 hours.
The next step would be disassembly and a thorough swabbing with denatured alcohol, but that's pretty extreme and only needed when the device isn't booting.
Some LCDs are hard to get moisture out of, some are not. Leaving the phone with the silica gel for longer will have a better effect. As the previous poster mentioned, rice also works (quite well), but takes longer than silica.
Good luck with it!

Another thin that will absorb moisture is common table salt. Take the phone apart very carefully. Remove battery first, make sure you're grounded as well.

Hello everybody.
thanks a lot for the numerous advices...
Unfortunately, I have more to report...
The phone dried out and booted 2 or 3 days later, as I said. The stains on the display disappeared as by magic one day later.
Everything was fine for a week until I launched the camera 2 days ago. The backlight of the display went off and came back only after removing the batter for 15 minutes.
Now the backlight is going off pretty often, sometimes it requires to remove the battery 1-2 times before it starts working again and yesterday it happened that it got activated again when I got a call...
Any ideas please?

And also the phone keeps overheating from time to time without real load (GPS or wi-fi) which dries out the battery. But I had this problem also before the laundry

Sounds like that moisture in the LCD unit left a bit of residue and is shorting the backlight somewhere.
Only option there would be to disassemble and swab the LCD boards and cables/connectors with denatured alcohol.
Alternatively, a new LCD unit should fix the problem if it persists, just make sure you alcohol swab the connectors before plugging them back in
Someone also mentioned drying out in salt before. While that does work, salt is extremely corrosive on solder and SMCs, so I wouldn't recommend that route.

i heard hair dryers are the bomb at the screen moisture, just take off all that you can and blow dry it.

I just don't understand your refusal on using white rice. It have saved countless phones.
Uncooked white rice is VERY mosture negative. Just put layer of rice, put your phone on it, cover it completely with white rice, seal it in. Ziploc could work too.
In a day or two your partially dry phone will be bone-dry. If it was soaked still you could first try to shake out water as much as can, soak it in distilled water to remove minerals, then white rice it for 3 to 5 days.

I had this problem with my Touch Diamond. Everything worked, but while i was trying to dry it I broke one of the battery "hinges" but the phone still worked after except only with black screen. The best thing to do probably is just leave it for a couple of days and hopefully your phone will be back!

XXCoder said:
I just don't understand your refusal on using white rice. It have saved countless phones.
Uncooked white rice is VERY mosture negative. Just put layer of rice, put your phone on it, cover it completely with white rice, seal it in. Ziploc could work too.
In a day or two your partially dry phone will be bone-dry. If it was soaked still you could first try to shake out water as much as can, soak it in distilled water to remove minerals, then white rice it for 3 to 5 days.
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exactly what ive said. ive read everywhere that rice is one of the best solutions out there

Like was said before you most likely have some corrosion on a few contacts, if you have about 6 bucks you can spare you can get residue free contact cleaner in an aerosol at radio shack or any electronics store and save yourself having to scrub each contact and connector. Just tear the phone down down spray all the contacts and connectors with contact cleaner let it sit for a few then spray it down with air duster to get any thats get under the resistors, in the connectors, etc that hasn't dried; let it sit till you're positive everythings dry and put it back together. Does the same thing as alcohol just alot less scrubbing.
Sent from my i897 w/Andromeda 3, Suckerpunch kernel, & 1.3Ghz OC using Tegrak.

Hello,
thanks for narrowing the problem down.
But for me it looks like something different, because:
1) I have been using the phone for 1 week without any problems and it got screwed after I've launched the camera app for the first time
2) The backlight works when I power on the phone. But its stop is event-triggered, like when I launch the sound or video player or when I get a call... Similar events would trigger the backlight back on.
Perhaps reflashing the software could fix that?
I went to a shop today and put another battery. The phone booted, anyway without any backlight, twice...
At least the device is still alive.

There probably was a tiny water bubble and it messed with phone when you turned camera on.

darkman088 said:
Hello,
thanks for narrowing the problem down.
But for me it looks like something different, because:
1) I have been using the phone for 1 week without any problems and it got screwed after I've launched the camera app for the first time
2) The backlight works when I power on the phone. But its stop is event-triggered, like when I launch the sound or video player or when I get a call... Similar events would trigger the backlight back on.
Perhaps reflashing the software could fix that?
I went to a shop today and put another battery. The phone booted, anyway without any backlight, twice...
At least the device is still alive.
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remove the back cover and battery from the phone, and put everyting in a bowl of rice for a day,. should fix everything,

XXCoder said:
There probably was a tiny water bubble and it messed with phone when you turned camera on.
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Either that or a short in the cameras circuit from corrosion, either way i'd pull it apart before it gets worse and check it out.
Sent from my i897 w/Andromeda 3, Suckerpunch kernel, & 1.3Ghz OC using Tegrak.

Post Water Damage Recovery, Now Bricked

excuse me for the very long title. I being the brilliant human being that i am went into a pool on the day of our independence with my beautiful HOX in my pocket. i sat there for about 5 min, totally sober mind you, then realized what an ass i was. i immediately went inside, shut it off and placed in rice. the next day i turn it on to see if it works and indeed it does. The only visible problem was water under the screen though the screen worked fine. i turned it back off and put it back in rice so as to give the rice ample time to perform its magic. 3 days later i check again and it still works. i decided to switch back to the HOX and things were great. 2 days later however it would randomly shut off and take AT LEAST 30 min before it would turn back on. at the end of the day i took out the sim and threw it back in rice. the next day it wouldnt turn on and thats the way its been ever since. no light when charging ether. ive left it in rice for the past 3 weeks checking every once in awhile but to no avail.
so i know that water damage is the culprit as is my stupidity however im asking to see if there is anything that anyone can think of that might revive my phone? perhaps a batter replacement? or screen replacement? or find out what i shorted? ive taken it apart a little but have held back out of fear of being unable to put back together my already broken phone lol
any help is appreciated. Thank You

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sdonn said:
excuse me for the very long title. I being the brilliant human being that i am went into a pool on the day of our independence with my beautiful HOX in my pocket. i sat there for about 5 min, totally sober mind you, then realized what an ass i was. i immediately went inside, shut it off and placed in rice. the next day i turn it on to see if it works and indeed it does. The only visible problem was water under the screen though the screen worked fine. i turned it back off and put it back in rice so as to give the rice ample time to perform its magic. 3 days later i check again and it still works. i decided to switch back to the HOX and things were great. 2 days later however it would randomly shut off and take AT LEAST 30 min before it would turn back on. at the end of the day i took out the sim and threw it back in rice. the next day it wouldnt turn on and thats the way its been ever since. no light when charging ether. ive left it in rice for the past 3 weeks checking every once in awhile but to no avail.
so i know that water damage is the culprit as is my stupidity however im asking to see if there is anything that anyone can think of that might revive my phone? perhaps a batter replacement? or screen replacement? or find out what i shorted? ive taken it apart a little but have held back out of fear of being unable to put back together my already broken phone lol
any help is appreciated. Thank You
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Sorry about you phone. Being an electronic technician, I would say you unfortunately made a fatal mistake by turning the phone on before it was totally dry inside. Almost anything on the circuit boards inside could have shorted or partially shorted while wet. I don't think anyone could guess as to what component is bad now without swapping in known good parts. It might have been damaged considerably before you got the chance to turn it off after the soaking, and there's nothing you could have done after that point, although it seemed to OK for a short time. I'm sorry that I can't recommend any further remedies.

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Sorry about you phone. Being an electronic technician, I would say you unfortunately made a fatal mistake by turning the phone on before it was totally dry inside. Almost anything on the circuit boards inside could have shorted or partially shorted while wet. I don't think anyone could guess as to what component is bad now without swapping in known good parts. It might have been damaged considerably before you got the chance to turn it off after the soaking, and there's nothing you could have done after that point, although it seemed to OK for a short time. I'm sorry that I can't recommend any further remedies.
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alright i assumed as much but thank you for the help. i feel like i can finally let go off my HOX

Take it apart and sell for parts. The digitalizer probably works fine.
Sent from my sexy white HTC One X on T-Mobile

You really have to take it apart before putting it in the rice. These things are sealed up pretty good these days.
Might just be the battery. If water got in the pack, it would behave as you described from internal shorting.
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Open it
At this point, you have nothing to lose by opening it up and drying it out for a week or 2. At least you'll get out any remaining moisture. You may just get lucky.

Also if there is corrosion, use 99% alcohol to remove it.
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