I recently flashed my Captivate with Cognition 4.2.2. I just noticed that 4.3 is out now with some desirable updates. Furthermore, I notice that there is a full ROM and a "Kernel only" version.
I have noticed that some people only talk about doing a full ODIN procedure back to stock is only necessary when flashing an entirely new ROM.
If I update to 4.3 :
Can I flash the kernel only? Or is there lot's of important things I will be missing. Is it only recommended to update kernel if I know that there have ONLY been updates to the kernel?
Is it important to flash back to Stock? Or can I just put the update in the root directory and use clockwork to boot after renaming the ROM to "update.zip"?
Any information on the way that these parts intertwine and what an update to one does to the others would be appreciated.
Thank you!
Okay here is the long drawn out story....
Got impatient for JB 4.1.2 to roll out and flashed the German GT-N-8010 4.1.1 onto device....ran great.
Now I want to get my device back to GT-N8013 4.1.2. so here is what I've done.
Flashed via Odin ICS 4.0.4, then rooted installed triangle reset device.
Now first I tried to flash KIES_HOME_N8013UEUCMA3_N8013XARCMA3_813049_REV00_user_low_ship.tar.md5 however everytime I flash it via Odin it fails and I have to go back to 4.0.4 KIES_HOME_N8013UEALI3_N8013XARALI3_1081475_REV00_user_low_ship.tar.md5 Now when I check my status after reflashing 4.0.4 I'm back to custom custom instead of all stock????
So now I tried this....I flashed 4.0.4, rooted, triangled and checked status...all was back to stock. Re-flashed 4.0.4 to kill the root, when I registered for software updates it tells me I'm custom and cannot get updates????
What am I doing wrong? I'm beyond frustrated right now. I have the latest ROM's but I cannot flash via Odin 4.1.2 as it fails everytime. How do I get this done and back to stock running 4.1.2 Please someone guide me like I'm 4
Stump3r said:
Okay here is the long drawn out story....
Got impatient for JB 4.1.2 to roll out and flashed the German GT-N-8010 4.1.1 onto device....ran great.
Now I want to get my device back to GT-N8013 4.1.2. so here is what I've done.
Flashed via Odin ICS 4.0.4, then rooted installed triangle reset device.
Now first I tried to flash KIES_HOME_N8013UEUCMA3_N8013XARCMA3_813049_REV00_user_low_ship.tar.md5 however everytime I flash it via Odin it fails and I have to go back to 4.0.4 KIES_HOME_N8013UEALI3_N8013XARALI3_1081475_REV00_user_low_ship.tar.md5 Now when I check my status after reflashing 4.0.4 I'm back to custom custom instead of all stock????
So now I tried this....I flashed 4.0.4, rooted, triangled and checked status...all was back to stock. Re-flashed 4.0.4 to kill the root, when I registered for software updates it tells me I'm custom and cannot get updates????
What am I doing wrong? I'm beyond frustrated right now. I have the latest ROM's but I cannot flash via Odin 4.1.2 as it fails everytime. How do I get this done and back to stock running 4.1.2 Please someone guide me like I'm 4
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To my knowledge :
0- full reset and wipe cache
1- root your device
2- install samsung galaxy s CSC and use it to change your CSC to your country or the one you want to get updates from
3- triangle away to make sure to rest the counter
4- download the firmware you need again , maybe from another server and make sure it is fully downloaded
5- try it with another version of odin , and make sure to turn kies off ,and make sure you have latest drivers installed .
asalah0923 said:
To my knowledge :
0- full reset and wipe cache
1- root your device
2- install samsung galaxy s CSC and use it to change your CSC to your country or the one you want to get updates from
3- triangle away to make sure to rest the counter
4- download the firmware you need again , maybe from another server and make sure it is fully downloaded
5- try it with another version of odin , and make sure to turn kies off ,and make sure you have latest drivers installed .
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Why do you need to change the CSC? E.g. I'm using UK stock JB ROM deodexed, does it mean the region has been changed to the UK? Where else can I download the firmware? I'm in Malaysia and can't find the firmware for download.
had the same scenario....german 4.1.1.....i downgraded to the official 4.0.4 (had to wipe cash and restore device during that process as it got stuck at logo)....then rooted, triangle away, all was stock......then waited for ota update.....nd now i have 4.1.2 all stock
I'm seeking help regarding the bootloader for my P3110:
>I can not install any new 4.1.2 roms because the bootloader fails in Odin (these new 4.1.2 firmwares seem to flash bootloader 1st)
>When I install older 4.1.1 firmware, the rom installs but the bootloader fails at the end although the device will boot normally after that.
>Codeworkx's bootloader (from CM10.1 page) will not install on odin either.. I just get an error message.
>Using triangle away on stock 4.0 and 4.1 will not work properly because of my bootloader issues.. (Modified status always comes back)
Maybe I could try flashing a CWM zip of the JB bootloader?? Could someone make or show me how to make one??
I've tried the obvious such as flashing back to ICS stock etc
Any help would be greatly appreciated as I would like to return the device to its original form... but I cannot do this as the device will not let me achieve any OTA updates (always says device has been modified)
Thanks
Matt
Thank you guys in advance for your help but I just had a few questions. I am running 4.4.2 currently with the stock rom rooted and unlocked bootloader. I have however issued a few Mods such as extreme power saving and built in tether. Can I just load the 4.4.4 firmware and radios, switch back to stock recovery and take the OTA to 4.4.4 without having to wipe anything or since I have used some mods do I now have to wipe my device and put everything back after getting the 4.4.4 update. The reason I ask is I like having the stock features while just using google now launcher on top of sense. Also would any of you have a recommendation on a ROM to achieve this same thing so I dont have to go through this everytime I want to take the newest OTA if it is not possible to take without wiping.
jpgetter said:
Thank you guys in advance for your help but I just had a few questions. I am running 4.4.2 currently with the stock rom rooted and unlocked bootloader. I have however issued a few Mods such as extreme power saving and built in tether. Can I just load the 4.4.4 firmware and radios, switch back to stock recovery and take the OTA to 4.4.4 without having to wipe anything or since I have used some mods do I now have to wipe my device and put everything back after getting the 4.4.4 update. The reason I ask is I like having the stock features while just using google now launcher on top of sense. Also would any of you have a recommendation on a ROM to achieve this same thing so I dont have to go through this everytime I want to take the newest OTA if it is not possible to take without wiping.
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Flash the ruu here. That will get you to 4.4.3 the easy way and make you 100% stock so you can take the ruu. Then flash twrp and flash su or the rooted Rom of your choosing.
The RUU is one way to go, although I would never update via OTA...
Another would be to flash the firmware and radios from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723159
And then Scott's rooted stock rom from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2914922
He usually has them up a few hours after a new OTA has been released. Even better - try his stock, debloated CleanROM once it's out.
This way you can keep your recovery. You can even try to just flash the 4.4.4 firmware and radios and see if it runs your current 4.2 ROM ok. But I would not update the rom from version to version without a wipe.
The setup is the price to pay for getting a new and hopefully better Android version.
What is the most stable stock android version? Kitkat or Lollipop?
My phone is currently on NE9 and want to optimize my phone to be the best with what's out now, especially since development will be dwindling. It seems that Lollipop does not run too well (high battery usage?), according to what I see on the threads. Without any input, I would update to NK2 and then towelroot. However, would anyone recommend me updating to BOK3 or BPB1?
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What is the most stable stock android version? Kitkat or Lollipop?
My phone is currently on NE9 and want to optimize my phone to be the best with what's out now, especially since development will be dwindling. It seems that Lollipop does not run too well (high battery usage?), according to what I see on the threads. Without any input, I would update to NK2 and then towelroot. However, would anyone recommend me updating to BOK3 or BPB1?
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They're both stable, but we do see a lot of complaints about lollipop battery life.
Try it for yourself. Just stick with jrkruse's stock lollipop images that don't update the bootloader past BOD5, or any ROM that specifically does not update the bootloader. Then you can easily downgrade back to kitkat if you decide you don't like it.
painiac said:
They're both stable, but we do see a lot of complaints about lollipop battery life.
Try it for yourself. Just stick with jrkruse's stock lollipop images that don't update the bootloader past BOD5, or any ROM that specifically does not update the bootloader. Then you can easily downgrade back to kitkat if you decide you don't like it.
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Thanks, painiac! I used your guide to get up to date with the S5, btw--things are very different from what I remember in the S4 world.
Anyway, after rooting and installing safestrap, if i were to flash jrkruse’s BPB1 Rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/vzwstock-based-tw-rom-3-4-16-t3329029), I would install the rom, safestrap fix, patch (optional), and BPB1_Firmware_No_Bootloaders.zip. Anything else to add?
This set up would allow me to go back to kit kat by installing a jrkruse kit kat rom and related firmware w/o bootloader?
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Thanks, painiac! I used your guide to get up to date with the S5, btw--things are very different from what I remember in the S4 world.
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Glad I could be of service. I came here just a few months ago from an S3. Imagine my disgust and shock... That was actually the impetus for writing that guide, because there's so much to have to learn and I'd just finished researching the crap out of it all for myself in a short amount of time.
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Anyway, after rooting and installing safestrap, if i were to flash jrkruse’s BPB1 Rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/vzwstock-based-tw-rom-3-4-16-t3329029), I would install the rom, safestrap fix, patch (optional), and BPB1_Firmware_No_Bootloaders.zip. Anything else to add?
This set up would allow me to go back to kit kat by installing a jrkruse kit kat rom and related firmware w/o bootloader?
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Nothing else to add, I think you got it. That no bootloaders firmware file you selected is the important one.
jrkruse says you can still run kitkat ROMs even if you're stuck with Lollipop, but I haven't tried it yet. Staying with the BOD5 or earlier bootloader actually allows you to flash KitKat stock image files with Odin, which you cannot do without bricking if you've updated your bootloader to BOE1 or later. I like this because the KitKat root process is a lot less problematic than the new Lollipop root method; but more importantly, you can freely upgrade to Lollipop with BOD5 bootloader (modified) stock Odin images, and then you can freely downgrade with stock KitKat Odin images.
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Glad I could be of service. I came here just a few months ago from an S3. Imagine my disgust and shock... That was actually the impetus for writing that guide, because there's so much to have to learn and I'd just finished researching the crap out of it all for myself in a short amount of time.
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I was lucky to have my an S4 MDK (unlocked bl), so things were much simpler back then--had an S3, as well. In the process of getting my S5 running the way I wanted, the use of safestrap was completely new to me. Thankfully, some heavy browsing of the forums got me through. I did not use flashfire, which would have been something else to learn!
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Nothing else to add, I think you got it. That no bootloaders firmware file you selected is the important one.
jrkruse says you can still run kitkat ROMs even if you're stuck with Lollipop, but I haven't tried it yet. Staying with the BOD5 or earlier bootloader actually allows you to flash KitKat stock image files with Odin, which you cannot do without bricking if you've updated your bootloader to BOE1 or later. I like this because the KitKat root process is a lot less problematic than the new Lollipop root method; but more importantly, you can freely upgrade to Lollipop with BOD5 bootloader (modified) stock Odin images, and then you can freely downgrade with stock KitKat Odin images.
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Thank you--your replies and guide were gold in terms of figuring it all out.
For onlookers of this thread, once you get to lollipop, it's hard to go back to kitkat. A lot of the small details really add up to an improved user experience. Also, having an s7 edge, the PB1 build on the S5 has 90% of the same functionality of the S7e--excluding edge-related features, of course.
To summarize my upgrade experience:
Root from any kitkat rom: Flash the NCG kernel in odin (AP/PDA), reboot and root with towelroot apk, and then install and update supersu; and lastly re-flash the NE9 kernel.
Install Hashcode's version of Safestrap: Install busybox apk. Install safestrap apk (version 3.75). Make sure to use a microsd card for installation, as recommended.
Install PB1 rom: (source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/vzwstock-based-tw-rom-3-4-16-t3329029). Reboot into SS. Flash G900V_Fix Safestrap.zip. Reboot into SS. Flash:
VZW_BPB1_ODEX_DEODEX_V9.zip,
Extra_toggles.zip (optional),
BPB1_Firmware_No_Bootloaders.zip , and
G900V_PB1_Stock_KERNEL_SafeStrap-Flashable.zip.
Flash all in a single queue. Reboot into download mode and flash G900V_OD5_Bootloader.tar.md5 in odin. Reboot. Wait. (NOTE: for more customization, before installing rom, unzip rom. Edit the options.prop in text editor to your likeing. Rezip original contents with updated options.prop. Flash this zip as the rom file)
To get back into safestrap/recovery: Make sure hashcode's version of safestrap is installed. A lollipop safestrap will be installed--don't use it. Also, install NI2Flasher.apk (this flashes a kitkat kernel, which will allow you to get back into the kitkat safestrap). Reboot into safestrap. IMPORTANT: When complete with whatever is being done in SS, flash G900V_PB1_Stock_KERNEL_SafeStrap-Flashable.zip to get back into lollipop rom.
Install xpose modules: This allows the essential greenify app (HIGHLY RECOMMENDED) to run to maximum potential. Gather following files:
1. APK: Xposed Installer 3.0 alpha4 (comes with some roms)
2. Flash in SS: Framework: xposed-v75-sdk21-arm-arter97-snapdragon.zip
3. Flash in SS: Uninstaller: xposed-uninstaller-arter97.zip
Since the rom I installed did not come with xposed installed. I flashed the framework in SS (look above to properly access and leave SS). Reboot. Install the APK. Reboot. Highly recommend installing Wanam's modules for lollipop--tons of modifications.
Unbrick: Get into download mode and flash: Full Wipe G900V_Downgrade_to_NCG.tar . (This helped me a ton until I realized that safestrap for the S5 does not work with rom-slots. Use the stock slot to do all flashing)
I gathered all this information from various threads, and hope this helps (highly recommend reviewing painiac's guide before starting anything - http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/guide-painiacs-essential-guide-to-t3319848). I am no expert, but this is what worked for me--please correct me if I'm wrong at any step. I believe the way I set this up, I should be able to get back to a kitkat rom, if I ever wanted to (easiest way to do this would be to flash the unbrick file). I hope this can help at least one person, since I know I'm not the only person to recently get an S5 due to someone else in the family upgrading to the S7.
Need some guidance in setting up root and Rom on my s5. Never done this before on a Verizon phone so if anyone can help I'd appreciate it