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I just purchased the N5 last night (left IOS :good and immediately got the OTA update for 4.4.2... Ive read that the update is veerrryy iffy because of battery issues causing it do draining extremely fast. Some say they do not have any issues with the battery and some claim they do. I was wondering what are your thoughts and if you would recommend updating to 4.4.2??
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Update, as it has newer fixes. For example camera shutter lag. There isn't any battery drain difference from 4.4.1
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My battery life has been awesome. The only phone I've ever owned that has better battery life is my Moto X. Battery aside, 4.4.2 brought some welcome bug fixes. Definitely update.
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Thanks for the advice! Just updated... Hopefully it works out.
ngrawr said:
Ive read that the update is veerrryy iffy because of battery issues causing it do draining extremely fast. Some say they do not have any issues with the battery and some claim they do.
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Just so you know, almost every software update will result in some folks running into issues. It may have nothing to do with the update, but may be because of an incompatible app, or some settings they have are using, or because something is out of date, or because Jupiter and Mars aren't lined up with the moon from that user's home location.
You will see many posts about issues, because everybody feels that their issue is unique. But for every person who posts about an issue, there are going to be several others for whom the update went just fine, and they didn't want to post "all is well"
If there are any major issues with the update, you can bet that you will hear about it on most of the major blogs, and you will find a thread over on xda with hundred or more posts of people complaining about the same issue. If you don't see that happen in the first few days of the OS release, it is usually safe to update
That makes sense! Lol so for the update is great... Took the phone off the charger at 7am and I am at 64% now after heavy usage. Loving the phone, OS, and everything about the experience.
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Has anyone else had their Android OS showing as a higher than normal battery usage since updating to JB? I updated Friday and it's been around 16% ever since, today it has 35 minutes of awake time longer than screen on..
I haven't noticed it since the jb update, but it did happen to me on ICS quite a bit. A simple reboot of the phone seemed to fix it. At least worth a shot.
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I haven't noticed it since the jb update, but it did happen to me on ICS quite a bit. A simple reboot of the phone seemed to fix it. At least worth a shot.
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Thanks, I'll give that a shot, battery life still seems to be great so I'm just curious
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My apologies, thanks Kenny
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Thanks, I'll give that a shot, battery life still seems to be great so I'm just curious
My apologies, thanks Kenny
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I have not seen any issue yet.
I've noticed a huge battery drain with JB. I'm experimenting with a few different fixes.
The one I've noticed the biggest difference with is turning off Google Now. This was KILLING my battery. I really won't know how much this fixes the problem until a full day of work.
I've also noticed that just with using my phone for a few minutes, it gets really hot. (Back, lower right)
(I've even did a wipe and reload trying to resolve these issues but nothing has changed.)
I read on another thread that if you updated using the "non data wipe" version of the JB ROM, that this is one of the side effects.
Try installing JB fresh with everything wiped,
I had the huge battery drain after JB update, ended up disabling couple of google apps tweaking couple of location/gps settings and now I'm back to about 1% drain per hour when phone is in idle/deep sleep. For some reason either the update or one of the apps was keeping the phone constantly awake so i had to pull the battery/restart couple of times. Also for some reason the keep screen on while charging was on in the developer options, i think that's why the phone took forever to charge first time after the update. Hope this will be of some help to you guys, gl!
Better Battery Stats, which is available on xda, is a recommended app to determine which apps are causing battery draining issues. From how I use it, unplugging from the charger to when your phone dies, it is most accurate in detailing what's been using battery the most but it works best when the phone is idle. The few times I've had Android OS or Android System taking up battery, it helped me detail which app was the cause however it takes a few hours to properly identify battery draining apps which is expected.
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Thanks all, I also tweaked some location settings and battery life is back to normal
I have been sticking to ice cream sandwich as I saw that there were several negative reviews about the jelly bean update specifically regarding battery life. I was wondering whether I should update or stick to ICS. Also I am rooted currently on ICS, what is the best way to update to JB?
Flash a jellybean rom, and the new modems.
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Hmm, I was kind of looking for an evaluation of battery life mainly and whether its worth it to actually upgrade since I treasure my battery life, so have they been able to fix the issues with jb?
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Hmm, I was kind of looking for an evaluation of battery life mainly and whether its worth it to actually upgrade since I treasure my battery life, so have they been able to fix the issues with jb?
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There are several threads to help with battery life on jb.
Maybe I set up my device differently but I have not noticed any degradation in battery vs tw and this is from a month of consistent use.
I happen to do a similar setup and use all the same apps and I honestly can't tell a dif in day to day battery life. I still get close to or over 6 hrs screen on time on cm10.1 vs beans 14/13 w the stock kernel in a decent signal area on 4glte pi only and no WiFi at all but I use a Samsung OEM extended 3000 mah.
I too was pretty concerned about battery life. After researching, it turns out most battery related issue is centered around Google Now. This turns out to be true. Just turn off Google Now, then go into Maps>Setting>location setting, uncheck everything (especially "report from this device"), and you won't have any battery issue.
Also, install Greenify, and greenify everything that should go into deep sleep mode when you're not using the phone.
Man I couldn't imagine shutting down all the things I use. Only thing I turn off is GPS when I am not using it on tw. On cm10.1 I leave everything on and don't try to save battery...no issues. I do agree with going into maps and turning off location reporting
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So , I have decided to upgrade to JB, but Ive forgotten how i should do this. Im rooted currently on ICS, but Im not sure if I have an unlocked bootloader ( how would i check?) .
Can anyone suggest a tutorial as to how I would go about doing this since im rooted.
Why don't you just flash a JB ROM? If you want to factory OTA I would search "how do I unroot my S3."
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Since upgrading to lollipop (have tried many roms, from 5.0.2 to 5.1.1, now getting it on Cynaogen OS 12 ) i get really high battery drain because some apps like facebook, sometimes xda keep mobile radio data active until i force close them. Has anyone else noticed this issue or got a clue what might be causing this? Because i was getting this bug on different versions of lollipop with different apps, i think this might rather be a lollipop issue than the fault of apps. I have also tried flashing different modems, nothing helped. I will post screenshots below
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I have the same problem xd with oxygen and cm12s
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=165558
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I have recently joined the mobile radio battery drain club running latest version of COS12 with the latest incremental update being about 2 weeks ago. since that "update" that was only supposed to fix touch screen issues I have had this radio bug. A full battery life cycle will only afford me 4-5 hours of use..... heavy use is MUCH worse! Like 3-4 hrs....
Anyone hear of a patch/fix/work around? I am also bone stock without root, never rooted, etc..... only stock updates on COS....
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I have recently joined the mobile radio battery drain club running latest version of COS12 with the latest incremental update being about 2 weeks ago. since that "update" that was only supposed to fix touch screen issues I have had this radio bug. A full battery life cycle will only afford me 4-5 hours of use..... heavy use is MUCH worse! Like 3-4 hrs....
Anyone hear of a patch/fix/work around? I am also bone stock without root, never rooted, etc..... only stock updates on COS....
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Unfortunately it's a core google OS bug and only google can fix it. It'll happen if you use Mobile Data and there's no solution at all. Either switch to KK or pray that they'll fix it on Android M. Or get used to it like me
Yeah, I've just been using battery save mode and this has been very helpful. Although it does effect performance and gets rid of all the fun animations that make lollipop so enjoyable. It's definitely worth having at least 7-8 hours of use. But, I admit even on battery saver mode I'm noticing extreme battery issues start to effect this profile as well.
Crossing my fingers that Google does roll out a fix of some sort bcuz I'm seeing new apps and Google services show up on my battery stats!
So has anybody been looking at this outside of Google? Some of us are developers, after all, and if the bug is in the Android code and not Google Play Services, we should be able to find it. I haven't seen too many attempts, so far...
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So has anybody been looking at this outside of Google? Some of us are developers, after all, and if the bug is in the Android code and not Google Play Services, we should be able to find it. I haven't seen too many attempts, so far...
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I have read from a number of people that only Google can fix this problem since it is a low level android bug. And it is also supposedly in the beta versions of android M as well. The only current solution I have found to this problem is to stay on Kitkat. And not buy a phone that comes stock with lollipop (or M) until this problem is fixed, assuming you want the best battery life, since it is likely that there will not be any KK roms available for any new phone.
You can help by starring the issue at https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=165558
As fars as I can tell, the bug should be in code we have access to, so it doesn't have to be Google that fixes it. I've fixed bugs in the Linux kernel before, and it doesn't get any more low level than that...
They have to accept the fix and include it for it to be much use, but that is an entirely separate issue...
Hope you all got the new update (small) which doesnt do much just a bug fix lol tho other phones or working on andriod 5.1 ours are still fixing bugs
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Hope you all got the new update (small) which doesnt do much just a bug fix lol tho other phones or working on andriod 5.1 ours are still fixing bugs
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Got only one info that is this update reduces heat/thermal algorithm improvement.
I wonder there has been a marginal battery life improvement(not sure though) as the earlier version 6.5.4.0 I felt that battery drain was high.
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Just my thought! I feel as if I'm getting more screen time with the same kind of usage after the 6.5.5.0 update. Shared my usage details here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60970024
Battery (screen time)
The phone also seems slower than before. Maybe they've tweaked the cpu governor parameters to make it less aggressive, making it cooler but at the cost of snappiness.
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Yes this update was mainly for the overheating issues from the above two comments it seems this is update is doing good and i agree on the screen time to maybe others should help by giving their reviews with the new update
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Yes this update was mainly for the overheating issues from the above two comments it seems this is update is doing good and i agree on the screen time to maybe others should help by giving their reviews with the new update
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Heating issue some what improved..
and battery performance also to improved..
Is the phone lagging after latest update?
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I saw significant improvement in battery drain after the 6.5.5.0 update. Prev it used to drain approx 1% every 10-15 minutes on idle, now its quite stable and sticking up longer!
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I just received my Mi 4i. I wonder why my MIUI version is different: 16.5.3.0(LXIMICD) I Stable...any idea? How may I can move to 6.5.5.0?
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Hello,
I just received my Mi 4i. I wonder why my MIUI version is different: 16.5.3.0(LXIMICD) I Stable...any idea? How may I can move to 6.5.5.0?
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Its because you got it outta box evryone had 6.5.3 i suppose keep checking for thw updates you will soon get it
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I have been noticing a trend across all my devices: the first day on almost all roms is always the best in batterylife.
Usually people say let a rom settle(which I find bull**** cause it should work getgo optimized). I however found that first day, or first charge with all my apps and regular usage pattern battery is the best.
Does anyone know why that is and how I can switch off anything that stops this?
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nice question.... request an expert to answer this
The issue of this is mostly in front of the device.
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The issue of this is mostly in front of the device.
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pun intended right... anyway, only serious answers please
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Startlinger said:
I have been noticing a trend across all my devices: the first day on almost all roms is always the best in batterylife.
Usually people say let a rom settle(which I find bull**** cause it should work getgo optimized). I however found that first day, or first charge with all my apps and regular usage pattern battery is the best.
Does anyone know why that is and how I can switch off anything that stops this?
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It's a conspiracy ?
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two words: battery calibration
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two words: battery calibration
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thats a placebo. never did anything for me
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I notice that too.. But I think is just because the first day you install any ROM you haven't all the apps installed. The days after maybe you begin install new apps that start drain softly your battery..
- "let it settle" is total bs. never did any difference for me.
- having many apps doesnt mean less battery life.
greenify some fishy apps which are optimized badly or consume battery in standby.
soon people come up with "give ur phone fresh air" after installing.
srsly...
Its because when you install apps such as whatsapp or Facebook, they automatically startl in the background causing you cpu to work a little more which results in a slightly higher power draw.When you first install the apps on a brand new phone, it won't make that much of a difference but developers constantly update it which could increase CPU background usage without you even knowing.
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Its because when you install apps such as whatsapp or Facebook, they automatically startl in the background causing you cpu to work a little more which results in a slightly higher power draw.When you first install the apps on a brand new phone, it won't make that much of a difference but developers constantly update it which could increase CPU background usage without you even knowing.
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yeah over time youre right, but I havent notices updates the next day. So I am not sure regarding the app updates.
In regard of them starting in background, they also do that on first charge, in fact they do a full sync as well.
Of course I wont be uninstalling and reinstalling to get that first day batterylife, but if its the apps, then they are really inefficient.
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yeah over time youre right, but I havent notices updates the next day. So I am not sure regarding the app updates.
In regard of them starting in background, they also do that on first charge, in fact they do a full sync as well.
Of course I wont be uninstalling and reinstalling to get that first day batterylife, but if its the apps, then they are really inefficient.
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something imppssible has been achieved! see my post!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=64674112
its amazing!
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something imppssible has been achieved! see my post!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=64674112
its amazing!
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Told you it was a conspiracy ? but in all seriousness your theory was way off
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Told you it was a conspiracy ? but in all seriousness your theory was way off
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well, it wasnt off, except for Omnirom I have never experienced this, and I am not the only one
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well, it wasnt off, except for Omnirom I have never experienced this, and I am not the only one
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Just a couple random guys who helped convince you that you had a valid theory but in general the thread hasn't had any knowledgeable person participate probably cause it's pure placebo. You just had a random idea. I've personally never experienced it through numerous phones I've had and battery life is generally greater for me when I'm at home on WiFi or when I have good network so its a combination of factors.
I don't mean to offend you but answers aren't as easy to find as making a theory and finding people who agree. That's just confirmation bias and you're not getting good answers until the theory has really been evaluated in a number of scenarios and critiqued. To make matters worse you disproved it already while on Omnirom
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Just a couple random guys who helped convince you that you had a valid theory but in general the thread hasn't had any knowledgeable person participate probably cause it's pure placebo. You just had a random idea. I've personally never experienced it through numerous phones I've had and battery life is generally greater for me when I'm at home on WiFi or when I have good network so its a combination of factors.
I don't mean to offend you but answers aren't as easy to find as making a theory and finding people who agree. That's just confirmation bias and you're not getting good answers until the theory has really been evaluated in a number of scenarios and critiqued. To make matters worse you disproved it already while on Omnirom
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not really disproved it. I noticed it on all android phones plus all roms.
Now I found a rom where deepsleep is legendary. I havent confirmed full charge cycle, sot and actual battery appart from deep sleep. It doesnt disprove my theory.
Fact others experience it makes it a fact for those experiencing it.
Just because you dont experience it doesnt make our experience less valid then your experience, respectively the reverse is also true.
This thread is about demythifying the experiences that are like mine.
So far no theory that you contributed explains our experiences, so please if you dont contribute towards solving, then dont say anything more.
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not really disproved it. I noticed it on all android phones plus all roms.
Now I found a rom where deepsleep is legendary. I havent confirmed full charge cycle, sot and actual battery appart from deep sleep. It doesnt disprove my theory.
Fact others experience it makes it a fact for those experiencing it.
Just because you dont experience it doesnt make our experience less valid then your experience, respectively the reverse is also true.
This thread is about demythifying the experiences that are like mine.
So far no theory that you contributed explains our experiences, so please if you dont contribute towards solving, then dont say anything more.
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So according to you unless I'm contributing to a useless theory then I shouldn't post! You should realize there are so many flaws in your flaws in your reasoning. Seems you just made a thread to get patted on the back and told you're onto something and with a whopping two people who agree with you, you're on a roll. Keep it up
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Notor1ouS- said:
- "let it settle" is total bs. never did any difference for me.
- having many apps doesnt mean less battery life.
greenify some fishy apps which are optimized badly or consume battery in standby.
soon people come up with "give ur phone fresh air" after installing.
srsly...
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This, nothing else!
Though I don't like greenify and prefer not to use ****ty apps like facebook at all,
which would explain why my battery life did not change a bit from kitkat to lollipop to marshmallow.
I never had issues with deep sleep or battery drain which was caused by apps.
Only time the drain increased (for everyone!) was when Google decided to **** us for months with their Play Services 7.5 Update.
They fixed it with 8.xx which was on the same level as 7.3.
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So according to you unless I'm contributing to a useless theory then I shouldn't post! You should realize there are so many flaws in your flaws in your reasoning. Seems you just made a thread to get patted on the back and told you're onto something and with a whopping two people who agree with you, you're on a roll. Keep it up
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stop trolling please
I did not create this to get a pat on the back.
I created this to gain knowledge if others experience this and if possible workarounds exist.
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This, nothing else!
Though I don't like greenify and prefer not to use ****ty apps like facebook at all,
which would explain why my battery life did not change a bit from kitkat to lollipop to marshmallow.
I never had issues with deep sleep or battery drain which was caused by apps.
Only time the drain increased (for everyone!) was when Google decided to **** us for months with their Play Services 7.5 Update.
They fixed it with 8.xx which was on the same level as 7.3.
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I had it without those versions google play as well. I even tested it without apps, at least on one device other then this one.
I did notice apps contribute a lot to battery usage and also idle drain. However I notice it on all apps. Just as on all roms. Except Omnirom as I stated it. On stock cyanogen and cyanogenmod its the worst. As well on stock roms of all the devices I have owned
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