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Best way to save battery is a minor inconvenience

If you dont care about push email and syncing contacts (most of us arent that important) I highly recommend turning off "Always on data" in the wireless settings. This time of day I am normally around 60% battery left (sometimes less) when I have it on... with it off? Im hovering around 92% battery and my phone started at 97% this morning because of the charger bug...
Basically if you turn this off, your phones DATA radio shuts off after 10 minutes of sleep. Gtalk, Gmail, contacts, calendar will not auto-push at this point, nor will any of your other apps (but who cares the phone is off). The work around for GTalk is simple - use trillian or Beejive which utilize Google Push messaging. Basically when you wake your phone, you instantly get all the missed IMs since both chat apps save your IMs on the server until you are available to push to. Android is awesome with reconnecting 3G and it happens in less than 2 seconds.
If you care about battery, check this out. Id rather have battery last 2 days than auto syncing contacts and gmail. Plus you can setup the standard email app to check your email for you since that doesnt require push (will check email when you wake it up).

Anyone else had success with this? I have considered it but haven't pulled the trigger yet.

I tried different sync settings with time, moving between checking for emails every 15-30 minutes as well as hourly, wasn't too much of a difference. I've turned off background data, but I haven't checked to see if turning off all data works. If I can find this setting I'll definitely try it tonight

I'm going to try this in a few minutes...once I get off this call. I hate being put on hold!

Best way to save battery is to turn off 4G (run only 3G). Why would I want my data off all the time. With 3G only I get over 20 hours battery life consistently with data on.

Am I the only one that can't find this setting? I went to settings and wireless & networks but don't see always on data.Never mind I found it in mobile networks.

Click on mobile networks. It's in there.
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I guess I am lucky, I have gotten great battery life even with 4g on. I have noticed if you are in a bad 4g area that toggles to 3g a lot this will kill your battery. I live in a great 4g area and never bounce back and forth.

I've done this on all my android phones, it makes an enormous difference. Android OS keeps an always-on data session, and all the Google services are constantly talking to their servers like gmail, market updater, talk, Google voice, etc. Turn off mobile data with a toggle widget until you actually need data is by far the best way to save huge battery.
Other phones such as the iPhone do not work this way. Instead the data session only initiates when you do some thing that needs it, such as opening the web browser. After closing the browser the data session terminates. Of course push email would keep it on all the time. But stock setup does not.
Android just keeps it on all the time.

What charging bug?
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psufan5 said:
If you dont care about push email and syncing contacts (most of us arent that important) I highly recommend turning off "Always on data" in the wireless settings. This time of day I am normally around 60% battery left (sometimes less) when I have it on... with it off? Im hovering around 92% battery and my phone started at 97% this morning because of the charger bug...
Basically if you turn this off, your phones DATA radio shuts off after 10 minutes of sleep. Gtalk, Gmail, contacts, calendar will not auto-push at this point, nor will any of your other apps (but who cares the phone is off). The work around for GTalk is simple - use trillian or Beejive which utilize Google Push messaging. Basically when you wake your phone, you instantly get all the missed IMs since both chat apps save your IMs on the server until you are available to push to. Android is awesome with reconnecting 3G and it happens in less than 2 seconds.
If you care about battery, check this out. Id rather have battery last 2 days than auto syncing contacts and gmail. Plus you can setup the standard email app to check your email for you since that doesnt require push (will check email when you wake it up).
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Will have to try this out. One thing Im missing on this phone that I had on my Droidx is power profiles. I made a profile that turned off data after 30 mins. This saved a crazy amount of battery. I cant bring my phone into work, so I leave it in the car.
On the Droid X, if I let it keep the data session always on, Id be down to like 50 percent battery with the phone sitting doing nothing all day (about 9 hrs). By having the data turn off after 30 mins, the phone would be at 80 percent at the end of the day.

I replaced my texting plan with Google Voice. This isn't an option for me.
I usually just leave it on 1X if its just sitting in my pocket and I don't need speed.
Are people seeing good battery gains with all the bloatware removed? I have root but I haven't gotten around to removing the Verizon bloat
edit: Now that I think about it, 1X could be a bigger power drain than EVDO. Hmm

I have to agree no need to turn of data. Use anycut to create a toggle widget and just put it on 3g. I use my phone from moderate to heavy and am still at over 60% on battery that's better than my Droid x. Let's face it 4G eats up battery but seriously when do you need besides when downloading things or for when netflix comes out or tethering. But for just normal use I don't even notice a difference when it comes to browsing.
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this is the most retarded thread. why the f would i go and buy a smart phone that is meant for push email and fast 4g internet and disable all that ****. either live with the **** battery life, live with a thicker phone and get a extended battery or return the **** for a dumb phone.

I am not in a 4g area but with my screen brightness turned down and the HTC weather sync turned off I am easily getting a day. I noticed when I look to see what is taking the juice its mainly the screen.

ddarvish said:
this is the most retarded thread. why the f would i go and buy a smart phone that is meant for push email and fast 4g internet and disable all that ****. either live with the **** battery life, live with a thicker phone and get a extended battery or return the **** for a dumb phone.
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You turn it off for times when you know you need to save power. If I'm out drinking at the bar for 4 hours, kill data and my phone is still at 98% after 4 hours. If I turn it off during a work day I still have 85% after 9 hours. The saving is enormous.
Since its only a 1 click toggle on your home screen, it makes no sense to avoid using this advantage.
Of course 99% of the time I leave data on. But when I know I'll need it, I use it.

ddarvish said:
this is the most retarded thread. why the f would i go and buy a smart phone that is meant for push email and fast 4g internet and disable all that ****. either live with the **** battery life, live with a thicker phone and get a extended battery or return the **** for a dumb phone.
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Great post, I can see you will be a helpful addition to this community...
Back on topic, guys this phone has been out for what? 2 weeks? Relax, trust me, kernel development was great on the INC, I could easily get a day & a half out of my phone on the stock 1300mah battery. Once we get the kernel source for the TB, and the devs start to work on that, you will notice battery life improve significantly. Until then 4g is a big reason, so keep that off if you don't need it. Syncing always has been, either make it manual sync, or keep it at long updating intervals.

Great post, I can see you will be a helpful addition to this community...
ROTFLMAO!

Definitely gonna try this out.

Hi which activity in anycut do i have to use for this to conserve battery?

How To Extend Battery Life

So, i managed to get 21 hours out of my battery and that was with quite a bit of usage and with the WiFi turned on all day.
I'll share what i'm running.
I'm no expert so i'm only posting what is working for me to help new people out.
Juice Defender
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.latedroid.juicedefender.beta&feature=more_from_developer
Ditch your charger - increasing battery life has never been so easy!
Always carrying your charger around? You don't need to!
JuiceDefender intelligently and transparently manages for you mobile connectivity and other battery-sensitive components, greatly improving battery life.
I have this set to aggressive.
Android Booster
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.netqin.mobileguard&feature=search_result
Android Optimizer. Make your droid faster. Save battery power. Monitor traffic
Android Booster FREE is one of the most powerful apps that can improve your Android’s performance!
You will find all the following productivity/utility solutions in this app:
Task Killer + Battery Saver + Memory Booster + Uninstaller + File Manager + Settings + Network Manager + Process Manager
These can optimize your android phone via task managers, battery manager, one-click turn on/off wifi, mobile network manager, Bluetooth manager and so on.
The Coolest thing is the Android booster Widget. It’s totally one-click optimization to manage WiFi, Bluetooth, mobile network & power display.
I placed the widget on the screen and after every use of the phone, i always click the optimize button.
APNDroid
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.code.apndroid&feature=search_result
Control your phone's internet connection. Pay less for data. Save battery life.
Prevents your phone from connecting to the internet over the mobile connection - 3G/EDGE/GPRS. Saves money for the data plan and also improves the battery life. Adds suffix to APN names and types to disable them.
I use this because i noticed that even though i connect through Wifi quite a lot, my phone is still using my data plan also. To make sure i don't use my data plan when i don't want to, i've placed the widget on the screen.
Other
Screen Brightness set to Auto
Bluetooth off unless i need it (AndroidBooster can sort this also)
Same applies to Wifi.
As i said, this is what works for me and i'm just sharing in case it helps anyone here.
Thanks
o0o Wiggy o0o

I'm not a power user.. but I'm getting ~2 days use simply by using Timeriffic with a schedule such as
11pm - turn on Airplane mode (ie. shut off all radios).. I'm in bed and dont want to hear from you
6am - remove Airplane mode
7am - enable Bluetooth while I drive to work
8am - disable Bluetooth, set ringer to vibrate
5pm - turn ringer back on, enable Bluetooth for drive home
6pm - turn Bluetooth off
rinse, wash, repeat (the 7am,8am,5pm events are only on weekdays).
There are multiple apps which support this kind of thing.

I've gone through this with every Android phone I've owned. Juice defender etc just isn't for me. In my opinion it just takes away one of the main features of having an Android phone in the first place.
With a few battery cycles, the battery life will improve. Once we have custom roms it will be even better.
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zim2dive said:
I'm not a power user.. but I'm getting ~2 days use simply by using Timeriffic with a schedule such as
11pm - turn on Airplane mode (ie. shut off all radios).. I'm in bed and dont want to hear from you
6am - remove Airplane mode
7am - enable Bluetooth while I drive to work
8am - disable Bluetooth, set ringer to vibrate
5pm - turn ringer back on, enable Bluetooth for drive home
6pm - turn Bluetooth off
rinse, wash, repeat (the 7am,8am,5pm events are only on weekdays).
There are multiple apps which support this kind of thing.
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Thanks, never heard of this app
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i found this here on xda. im gonna try it later tonight.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990

One thing that many people forget about is how often email syncs, how often you have your weather syncing, and any other apps that sync.

Menu / settings / about phone / tell HTC / remove V on both settings and i dropped down to 38ma with wifi on in standby.
5 minutes later i got 6ma.
If this is what was taking all power from the phone i will have a super phone with the best battery

NoModE said:
Menu / settings / about phone / tell HTC / remove V on both settings and i dropped down to 38ma with wifi on in standby.
5 minutes later i got 6ma.
If this is what was taking all power from the phone i will have a super phone with the best battery
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Remove V on both options? huh? I see: Report Errors to HTC checked and two dropdowns.

See if just don't get you people. If your just using your phone for bluetooth vibrate rinse not repeat etc? Wtf why do you have a Sensation 4G? It's a powerhouse phone so if your attempting to get 48 hours of battery life(which basically means your phones screen is never on) Why waste 250 on a phone. Get a dumbphone with bluetooth and your battery can last you a week. Now if your a regular person with a smart phone you simply accept that your battery life will be shot your trade battery life for perfornance. If your emails aren't syncing, facebook, twitter, weather, google music, etc. Then a smart phone is pointless. I use my phone white a bit and i've been getting about 9 hours usage with my phone which is greatttt I play angry birds every thing syncs facebook twitter gmail aim Battleheart etc you name it and I get over 9 hours on a single charge that is great.
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If you are not killing your battery in four hours or less, you are not using your phone. Lol, in my opinion.
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rawr4dj said:
See if just don't get you people. If your just using your phone for bluetooth vibrate rinse not repeat etc? Wtf why do you have a Sensation 4G? It's a powerhouse phone so if your attempting to get 48 hours of battery life(which basically means your phones screen is never on) Why waste 250 on a phone. Get a dumbphone with bluetooth and your battery can last you a week. Now if your a regular person with a smart phone you simply accept that your battery life will be shot your trade battery life for perfornance. If your emails aren't syncing, facebook, twitter, weather, google music, etc. Then a smart phone is pointless. I use my phone white a bit and i've been getting about 9 hours usage with my phone which is greatttt I play angry birds every thing syncs facebook twitter gmail aim Battleheart etc you name it and I get over 9 hours on a single charge that is great.
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Haahaa....very true!!!!
People get Obsessed with battery usage.
What is the point of having this or any superphone if your gonna cut it's balls off from day one.
If you condition the battery properly from day one, you can use it heavily and still get easily a full day....and that's more than anyone should ever ask for from a device this powerful AND beautiful

rawr4dj said:
See if just don't get you people. If your just using your phone for bluetooth vibrate rinse not repeat etc? Wtf why do you have a Sensation 4G? It's a powerhouse phone so if your attempting to get 48 hours of battery life(which basically means your phones screen is never on) Why waste 250 on a phone. Get a dumbphone with bluetooth and your battery can last you a week. Now if your a regular person with a smart phone you simply accept that your battery life will be shot your trade battery life for perfornance. If your emails aren't syncing, facebook, twitter, weather, google music, etc. Then a smart phone is pointless. I use my phone white a bit and i've been getting about 9 hours usage with my phone which is greatttt I play angry birds every thing syncs facebook twitter gmail aim Battleheart etc you name it and I get over 9 hours on a single charge that is great.
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Sorry maybe you missed the point of the thread..........
There's no such thing as a regular user as you state, everyone does things differently. The point of this thread is to contribute methods that extend maxing out our perfomance, game playing, and all productivity on our devices. If you have nothing to add besides rants and flames, I suggest you just hush, watch and learn.
Right now we can't access/disable some programs that really drain juice. So every little bit helps til we get root.

NoModE said:
Menu / settings / about phone / tell HTC / remove V on both settings and i dropped down to 38ma with wifi on in standby.
5 minutes later i got 6ma.
If this is what was taking all power from the phone i will have a super phone with the best battery
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I'm sorry, but this solution was not working.
It was down to 6ma for a while, but after some minutes it was back to draining my battery with up to 200ma in standby.
[KillaHurtz]
If your post had a like button, I would click it.

NoModE said:
I'm sorry, but this solution was not working.
It was down to 6ma for a while, but after some minutes it was back to draining my battery with up to 200ma in standby.
[KillaHurtz]
If your post had a like button, I would click it.
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What are you using to check your battery MA? I use battery monitor widget and it never shows less than 200ma and I know those numbers have to be off a bit...my battery went down 4% overnight but the widget showed 200ma the whole time! Anyone know a battery ma widget that actually works?
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jahmezis45 said:
What are you using to check your battery MA? I use battery monitor widget and it never shows less than 200ma and I know those numbers have to be off a bit...my battery went down 4% overnight but the widget showed 200ma the whole time! Anyone know a battery ma widget that actually works?
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Yes, that's the one I'm using.
But i'm not sure if it's working 100% or not.
Anyone else know?

NoModE said:
Yes, that's the one I'm using.
But i'm not sure if it's working 100% or not.
Anyone else know?
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ok i emailed the developer for battery monitor widget and he sent me an updated apk. but i think it was a simple option that he added that has seemed to fix the problem. Now im getting regular readings like 2ma and so on. i would email the developer and tell him your having the same problem as jahmezis45 and see if he can help. Hope this helps!

i have same problem with battery monitor, it is allways over 200mA

Spirit81 said:
i have same problem with battery monitor, it is allways over 200mA
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yea its reading the information from the device wrong. email the developer, email address is in his program on the android market

I dont know why I bother having a smartphone, it spends so much time in the charger, I might as well call it landline

First thing, I stopped using all battery and current monitoring apps when I realized they were a part of the problem and not part of a solution. They are simply drawing power and keeping the phone awake and are not really accurate anyways. Only actual usage time matters. Can you use it throughout the whole day with "normal" (for you!) usage patterns?
If you have something draining your battery over time, it is likely to be an app keeping the phone awake so it doesn't go into deep sleep mode.
Connect the USB cable to the phone and PC and run this command:
Code:
adb shell dumpsys alarm > AlarmDump.txt
Then have a look at the file, towards the bottom you get Stats. In here is the breakdown of what's causing the device to wake up. (h/t catnap)
The screen may be the single biggest drawer of power, so I usually suggest disabling auto-brightness and setting the brightness to a level you can work with, for me around 25% works. I also edit my build.prop and change the supplicant timer from 120 to 900 to prevent WiFi from pinging my remembered networks as often, turn off open network notification, and run the mobile network on 3G instead of 4G since it uses less power.
Some other things to do include turning off pocket mode under the sounds settings (turns off proximity detector) and disable vibrate feedback.

New to the thunderbolt? Look here before posting

I'm hoping this helps out I know with all the hype of the Thunderbolt there's quite a few users new to android that see how people are customizing and wanting to know, and repeat after repeat of questions and bringing a lot of unneeded hostility around here. Feel free to add what ever you guys think is something that is repetitively brought up. I'm running kind of short on sleep, so if I left anything out let me know!
Remember to always follow instructions and SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH before making a new thread
Remember to always Wipe Data/Factory reset/Wipe cache/wipe dalvik cache to insure a clean, fresh bug free install.
Also ALWAYS make a backup of what ever current rom before flashing a new one
Lastly, DO NOT treat the devs with disrespect they are losing sleep/girlfriends/what ever to give us these roms and kernels and everything else for free. If something gets messed up do not come at them with hostility or it will only be returned. The people of XDA will HELP you, but only if you've searched and tried to help yourself first. Also don't forget to donate to the dev's from time to time for their monster/beer/hookers and all their time and effort.
Thunderbolt Root Users Dictionary:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143188
Back up Date before rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193901
How To Root your Thunderbolt
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
How to Root via Mac OS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011623
REVOLUTIONARY ROOTwww.revoultionary.io
Easy Auto Root:(Although this is not the recommended way, I've used it before and had no issues.)
Video guide:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQYoeFrJ1Jk
Download links
TB Auto-Root : http://www.multiupload.com/NOK55G17MZ
HTC SYNC : http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-and-Shell/Windows/HTC-Sync-81096.shtml
Lost data after rooting? Try these steps
oneders65 said:
This is what I did.
1.) Flashed my phone back to Stock S-ON usine this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423
when you reboot the phone make sure you wait until you get a 3G/4G signal. If you start the process of setting up your phone to quick it will cause your phone not to activate the data connection.
2.) ROOTED my phone and at each boot made sure I had 3G/4G connection before setting up phone. (Downgrade and Upgrade).
3.) This let me keep my data connection all the way through.
Credits
Scotty2, jamezelle, jcase, and all of Team AndIRC
Testers, especially ProTekk and Trident
Thanks to scotty2 for WPThis
Busybox was pulled from a CyanogenMod ROM, source should be available here
psneuter was pulled from somewhere, credit to scotty2, source here
All firmware credit goes to 911sniper
Jaroslav from Android Police for editorial help
dbzfanatic
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How To UNROOT your thunderbolt
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423&highlight=Un+root
To help decide whether you want Gingerbread or Froyo
Differences between Gingerbread and Froyo
http://androidheadlines.com/2011/01/differences-between-android-2-2-froyo-and-2-3-gingerbread.html
ROMS and Kernels:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081930
Team Mikmik aka Gingeritis ROMs since people don't know where they went
http://www.themikmik.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=271
I see CyanogenMod around what is that?
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
I installed a GB rom and all my texts time stamps are off
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mattprecious.smsfix&feature=search_result
Activate>use phone time has fixed every issue with this for me!
Radios:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048128&highlight=radio
Thunderbolt Themes and Apps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=944
How to help Improve battery life (Courtesy of Guitarchris123):
If you easily get a full day's use with stock settings, then ignore this. But the ThunderBolt is a powerful 1GHz smartphone made by HTC with a fairly small stock battery, large 4.3" screen, LTE capability, and Sense UI, so battery life may be a concern to you. There is no magic app or single technique that will make your battery last all day with heavy use, but if you utilize some of the following tips you WILL notice a significant increase in your battery life. Everyone's use is different, so 6-9 hours on one charge may be enough for some while others need 12-15 hours. Some of these may not be necessary, appropriate, or desirable for all users, so just pick which ones work for your purposes and preferences. You might prefer to keep using some of the particular features mentioned, as the benefit for you might outweigh the minimal savings in battery life. The point of this is to show people how to disable or limit features they don't need, not force them to shut down everything the phone was built to do. Feel free to add your own suggestions as well or ask any questions about the techniques.
1. Settings: (use an app or widget that helps you quickly toggle them, eg. built-in widgets, or from market such as Elixir, Quick Settings, or MySettings)
a. Screen –go to settings/display, turn down Brightness (20-30%), set Timeout to 30 secs, manually turn off by quickly pushing top button when not using anymore (instead of waiting). I have personally found that I like setting timeout at 1 min better, and manually turning off the screen with the top button every time I am done using it before I put it down or away in my pocket, that way it doesn't waste itself timing out or shut off on me when I don't want it to yet.
b. GPS – always turn off when not using, and plug into car charger (or car dock if you have one) during extended use
c. Bluetooth – always turn off when not using
d. 4G – always turn off when not using, only use when you need the speed, (the TB will get a toggle either in an update or in app form at some point, in the meantime there are several methods to accomplish this)
e. Mobile hotspot – always turn off when not using, plug into charger when in use if you can
f. WiFi – turn off when not near a WiFi signal for an extended period of time, but always use when available (faster than 3G, uses less battery), go to settings/wireless & networks/WiFi settings, press menu button and tap Advanced then WiFi Sleep policy and select“Never”, this sounds counter-intuitive, but it actually uses less power because when WiFi sleeps 3G or 4G wakes up to sync, get email, and retrieve other data (WiFi connection disables 3G/4G). Also uncheck Best WiFi Performance if its checked.
2. Background/wallpaper - use a static image instead of a live wallpaper (but these are cool, so use one if you really want to, they only drain for the short amount of time you are looking at the launcher screens). Many say the live wallpaper drain is minimal, but I noticed a significant amount while using a live one so I went to static. Have any of you tried both and noticed much of a difference yet?
3. Window animations – go to settings/sound & display/animation and select“no animations”
4. Keyboard vibration – turn off vibration function (haptic feedback) for when you hit a key (helps with speed too), go to settings/language & keyboard/touch input/text input and uncheck vibrate when typing, you can disable haptic feedback in other areas of the system by going to settings/sound, and uncheck vibrate feedback
5. Notification lights – unless you really want/need to know when something happens on your phone when you are not looking, go to settings/display/notification flash and uncheck all the boxes
6. Vibration – unless you really want this function, go to settings/sound, and uncheck vibrate
7. Monitor battery use - go to menu/settings/about phone/battery use, this will show you what is eating the most battery, uninstall troublesome unneeded app, use Running services widget by going to shortcut/settings (helps identify processes running in the background and foreground), if you want more detail check out SystemPanel in the app market, if you want to be alerted to "rogue" apps check out Watchdog Task Manager in the app market
8. Disable“always-on mobile data”– go to settings/wireless & networks/mobile networks, uncheck “Enable always-on mobile data,”you will still receive emails, texts, and phone calls, as well as internet usage, but it may cause connectivity problems in some third party apps (use manual refresh feature when opening apps to update online data)
9. WiFi and 4G network notifications – go to settings/wireless & networks and uncheck Network notification box (so phone will not constantly scan to look for open networks to tell you about)
10. Background data – if you are not using Google life-management services, go to settings/accounts & sync and uncheck Background data box (so that apps cannot sync, send, and receive data whenever it wants to, even if not currently using them). Add a homescreen shortcut to quickly toggle this (allows you to update/sync only when you want/need to).
11. Auto-sync – uncheck Auto-sync in settings/accounts & sync, or at least limit what apps are set to sync, it is better to manually sync/update/refresh in the app when you open it (set to update at launch), set update/notification frequency (polling schedule), if you do not want to turn off auto sync, just change widget or app update/notification frequency (refresh interval) in settings/accounts & sync to 30 mins or 1-2 hours, or better yet set it to update at launch, useful for Facebook, Twitter, Flickr, news, weather, Google apps, and stocks, be sure to manually sync/back up your contacts every once in a while in case you lose your phone or break it
12. Email – change sync option in settings, set email check frequency to 30 mins or 1 hour, or as items arrive, or better yet set it to never and manually refresh when you want to check/read your email
13. Camera app(s) – make sure they are not running in the background when not in use, exit/close when done
14. Video chat app(s) – make sure they are not running in the background when not in use, exit/close when done
15. Streaming app(s) – make sure they are not running in the background when not in use, exit/close when done, try to limit use or plug into a charger during use if you can
16. Google Talk – press Menu then tap All apps/talk/menu/settings and uncheck automatically sign in, make sure you exit the application by going to menu/more and selecting sign out when you are done (exiting the app by pressing home or back keys will not sign you out), if you want to receive IMs just open the application again
17. Adobe Flash Player – open browser, hit menu key, go to settings/enable plug-ins and set it to“On demand”(this way the browser only loads flash content when instructed to do so)
18. Update apps – hit menu key and to go My Apps to check for updates, even if you have selected“update automatically”because some apps require you to manually install updates (apps often get updated to use less power)
19. Location settings (updated) – go to settings/location settings. It is ok to have all of these checked, because it is the apps that use the GPS and consume power, not having these settings selected. GPS is only active when apps using it are in use.
20. Task killer – do not use them, uninstall if you currently have one, can harm phone and consume battery, just use back arrow key to exit apps instead of home key, simply monitor rogue apps instead and uninstall/replace. These are especially bad on pre-installed apps and services (many things rely on each other), so never "auto-kill" or "kill all." If you must use one, only use it on apps that you have installed that are misbehaving, otherwise let Android do it on its own.
21. Anti-virus – do not use them, uninstall if you currently have one, only download and use periodically or when you suspect a problem, do not download suspicious apps (check reviews and rating in market first)
22. Ad blocker – do not use them, uninstall if you currently have one
23. Battery meter accuracy – go to data/system and delete“batterystats.bin”after you have charged your phone to 100%
24. Tasker – can be used to automate settings (eg. based on time of day or app launched)
25. Juice Defender + Ultimate Juice – can be used to automate settings (eg. based on time of day or location)
26. Screebl - keeps backlight on while holding phone in "use" (vertical) position and turns it off when laying flat
27. Rebooting - reboot phone every few days
28. Delete unnecessary apps – determine which apps you do not need or use anymore and uninstall them, determine which apps you keep are causing the most battery drain and see if a comparable replacement from the market will do better
29. Widgets – turn off animations, do not use too many of them (choose them wisely), and delete unnecessary ones, they pull data in the background. At least make the interval/frequency of sync/updates longer for the ones you have. It may be better just to open some apps themselves instead of using the widget. Disable auto-updates on HTC Weather widget or at least set it to every few hours, manually update by tapping update icon on bottom of widget. Note that widgets that display battery, CPU, and memory utilization consume some power because they are polling the system for information.
30. No service – turn off phone or go into Airplane mode when you are in an area that does not have cell service
31. Chargers – have them handy at home, at work, and in car, and plug in when available. Try to get a 1A charger (same as included wall charger), many cheap aftermarket car chargers are only 500mAh and will not be enough to handle the GPS. VZW's car charger is 750mAh.
32. Rooting – (there are a lot more techniques that can be used with a rooted phone, such as removing bloatware and underclocking when then screen is off, but I will save that for a later thread)
33. If all else fails, buy an extended battery or have a spare handy just in case
Update1 - I came across another technique, it sounds a little strange but it apparently came from HTC regarding the EVO...some users appeared to have experienced gains from it:
34. "Calibrate" battery - (1) Turn device ON, charge it for 8 hours (or until LED turns green), (2) unplug and turn it OFF, plug it back in and charge for 1 hour (or until LED turns green), (3) unplug and turn it ON, wait 2 minutes, turn it OFF, plug it back in, and charge for 1 hour (or until LED turns green), (4) unplug it, turn it ON, and use normally. Repeat once a month or so.
Update2 - I found a few more things to suggest
35. Blockbuster app - open app, download update from market, then go to menu/settings and tap "disable movie updates." The app is set to automatically periodically scan for updates by default, and requires the new update to turn this off.
36. Friendstream - delete the widget from your home screen, open app and go to menu/settings and select update when opened. This way it isn't constantly refreshing, but rather only does so when you want to look at it by opening the app.
37. Signal strength - whether 3G, 4G, or WiFi, if whatever you are trying to connect to has a low signal strength the TB's battery will be draining trying to connect. Keep an eye on your connections, and try to be aware of when you are in poor signal areas and toggle off or switch connections if you can. Also keep in mind where your "fringe" areas are (ie. bounces between 3G/LTE/1X)
38. Apps - not all 3rd party apps are optimized for the TB, be sure to read reviews/ratings in the market to see what problems other users have had with them. Monitor your apps to see if any of them are hogging system resources (eg. CPU, RAM) and draining your battery, and delete or replace them accordingly. And remember to set the sync/update/notification frequency at longer intervals in settings within the apps that connect to the internet frequently.
39. Power saver - go to settings/power, and check enable power saver, the go to power saver settings and tweak (basically does a lot of the things we've talked about here for you automatically when you get low on battery, in case some things are left on or on higher settings than needed)
Another Battery Saver 3g/4g toggle switch:
https://market.android.com/details?id=net.andirc.lteonfoff&feature=search_result
What is SetCPU and where do I get it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
Just because it's free doesn't mean you shouldn't donate a little something to the dev!
Commonly used widgets
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761517
How do I customize my home page and change the docks and such?
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.adw.launcher&feature=search_result
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.fede.launcher&feature=search_result

This is a nice and concise introduction. I needed this last week!
Upvoted for the phrase "beer and hookers."

One stop shop very nice!!!!....
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Thanks for that. I am going to have my wife read this so she can understand more on what to do with her phone, since it is not rooted and still has all that bloatware.
My phone is rooted and I have been testing with 4gLTE off/on, and seriously gained 5 hours when 4gLTE was turned off.
17-18 Hours Almost made it to 19 hours - 4gLTE off - This is with moderate use call/text/IM and some gameplay.
13-14 Hours - 4gLTE on - This is the same as above.
Trying now to talk my wife into letting me root her phone, but alas it is her phone and her choice.
Also if you want to update there is a 4G/LTE app in the Marketplace for the toggle - just search in the Market - LTE - it will show up as a Red Lightning bolt in a grey Circle.

Excellent post!

scubaskm said:
Thanks for that. I am going to have my wife read this so she can understand more on what to do with her phone, since it is not rooted and still has all that bloatware.
My phone is rooted and I have been testing with 4gLTE off/on, and seriously gained 5 hours when 4gLTE was turned off.
17-18 Hours Almost made it to 19 hours - 4gLTE off - This is with moderate use call/text/IM and some gameplay.
13-14 Hours - 4gLTE on - This is the same as above.
Trying now to talk my wife into letting me root her phone, but alas it is her phone and her choice.
Also if you want to update there is a 4G/LTE app in the Marketplace for the toggle - just search in the Market - LTE - it will show up as a Red Lightning bolt in a grey Circle.
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Ah, very good! I forgot about the toggle switch. Added and thanked!

Lots of good info, thanks

Awesome, thanks for the tips, should make my experience better.

This is a great post!! I def used some of the battery saving techniques.

Awesome information - wish I would have found this when I first bought my Thunderbolt... better to learn from others than trial and error method sometimes. lol

Thank you for the info... Somw i knew some i didn't... Great one stop for quick reminder..
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Good stuff. Thank you.

Great post. Just one question. Why do ad-blockers use more battery? Wouldn't it decrease data use and thus battery since it prevents ads from being downloaded?

Thanks for the info!!

def a one stop shop. thank you. info much needed.

Sorry kind of falling behind on updates. Anyone think anything needs to be added???

ScoobarSTI said:
Sorry kind of falling behind on updates. Anyone think anything needs to be added???
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may want to add in the "how to unroot for people who used revolutionary" thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310014&highlight=revolutionary

Rooted with revolutionary...lost my gps CM7 ROM
Rooted my TB...with revolutionary, installed CM7 ROM. Now my gps doesn't work. Any ideas. Any advice?

I think CM7 has issues with GPS.

Thanks !!
Using Juice Defender lets me go a day and a half without charging. It's awesome !

here's to the people who think there battery is bad

1) there r chances u might have a faulty unit but the biggest thing that drains ones battery is cell signal strength a couple days back. I couldn't understand how I was getting terrible battery on wifi in my house I realized it was cause in my house I only have some bar
Share some other reasons why battery might suck for some
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

1) Sticking with the Sense launcher
2) Widgets, widgets everywhere (it takes CPU cycles to keep those pretty widgets drawn on the screen
3) multiple home pages (read: more than 3-4)
4) leaving your wifi on when not connected/trying to connect. Your wifi, if on, is constantly looking for signal. Turn it off when you leave the area.
5) Sync. I have 6 gmail accounts I sync to. I turn them all off while at work. They can wait.
6) Update frequency of apps (facebook, weather, dropbox, google+, etc) Also, auto upload of pictures. Change the settings to either "only over wifi" or "while charging only"
7)Auto-brightness. It takes juice to have that little sensor constantly monitoring the light conditions. Set it to manual and change as you see fit.
8) Seriously, delete most if not all of the sense widgets. Check the update frequency. Run another launcher.
9) Some web browsers (chrome) give the option to pre-fetch data. Stop that
10) Stop being a SAP and checking your phone (while in public) every 5 minutes. No one has sent you a message and you already know the time. The screen on is the biggest power drain.
SAP: Socially awkward penguin
edit for clarification
1) sense is a hog. As "light" as some websites may paint it, it is still the bane of HTC's phone battery issues. There is no way to turn it off but you can keep it as a background process if you use a different lighter launcher (nova, apex, etc...)
2) Widgets require updating (internet) and need to be redrawn (cpu) both of which drain the battery
3) the more pages you have, the more cpu cycles it requires; see #2
4) self explanatory
5) see #4 (Seriously, do you need to have all your email all the time?) I mainly only receive updates to sites I visit (XDA, and deal-a-day sites) so I can deal without them while I'm AFC (away from charger)
6) The more you update, the more it needs internet access the more it drains the battery
7) self explanatory
8) If you insist on using Sense...You're gonna have a bad time
9) self explanatory
10) How often do you pull out your phone to "just check the time" and how many times do you actually read the time? I'm a victim of this, too. Pull out phone, power on, look at screen, check for notifications, turn off phone. "****, what time was it?" Rinse, repeat.
Under battery stats, screen is always, always, the biggest culprit. Minimize this by not turning the screen on!! Wear a watch, maybe even a bluetooth watch (to check for alerts) and consciously avoid pulling it out.

A sap is a gullible person; a dupe.
I have been seeing SAP and always thought that's what it meant, but now that you say it, it makes more sense as S.A.P.
Thanks! lol

relic120 said:
A sap is a gullible person; a dupe.
I have been seeing SAP and always thought that's what it meant, but now that you say it, it makes more sense as S.A.P.
Thanks! lol
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this might help: http://www.google.com/search?q=soci...n0M6bM2AW2m_S3DQ&ved=0CF0QsAQ&biw=997&bih=715

Or if you're one the peps that loose 1% battery for every minute of screen on time. Like me. Replacing tomorrow hopefully.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

I'm losing crazy amounts of battery when talking on the phone. A 3 minute call will take 10-12% of the battery. Usually after 20 minutes talk time I'm down to less than 50% battery. I've turned everything off, notifications, syncs, and most apps. I'll see how it does but I may try returning it for another.

I'm seeing this problem too. 15 minute phone call shows as 14% of my battery life when i'm down to 10%. I think I might need to take mine back too.
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[GUIDE] Improve Battery life and performance (no root)

MFirst of all i want to apologyze for my bad English.
After the nougat update i start getting a really bad battery life and have to charge the phone 3 times a day. I start digging in the problem and do test in search for a better battery. I managed to improve my 3hous SoT to get between 4.30 to 6 hours SoT.
The tweaks in this guide are not magical, there are just tips that help me improve a lot my battery life. There is no need to unlock bootloader or to root the phone. The idea is to make a good balance between functionality and battery life. Everyone can choose what thinks they want to sacrifice for battery life and what they want to keep. All the steps that are listed here are reversible and can't harm your device in any way. It is pointed to people that do not know a lot of this subject.
My advice is to full apply all the steps and after getting a good battery life start to enabling the features that you want to have on the phone one by one and test battery.
At the end of this guide there is a section with improvements wich aim is to make the moto x style look like more like the news motorola Phones.
Simple Tips for Battery life:
-After a major OS upgrade it is important to do a full factory reset, full wipe. When logging with your google acount start the device as a new device. Do not restore apps!
-Try to not use the Turbocharger. Based on my own experience, a good 1-2 Amp charger get a lot more juyce that the turbo charger. It may sound weird to you but i tested this a lot of times and really see and important difference. I only use the turbocharge when i am in a hurry.
-Do a full calibration of your battery. Let the battery get to 0%. Turn the phone off and let it charge to 100% and left it plugged a little bit more. After that unplugg the phone, restart it and see if the % is still 100%. If not plugg the phone again after a 100% charge and repeat the process until you get a full 100% charge or near that number.
-A good advice if to left the phone charging in the nigth, or when you think it is a good moment. After get to 100% of the charge, unplugg the phone, restart it and plug it again. For my the battery is not getting a good reading after Nougat update. After a restart i always "lost" like 8% of charge. I do this every time i charge the phone.
-The NOUGAT room is draining battery very very fast when there is bad celular signal. So if you are not having a good celular signal it is a good advice to put the phone in airplane mode until you change your location. Also, there is drain with bad wi-fi signal so try to avoid that too. It is not strong like the celular drain but can influence in your final results.
-Turn off location when you are not using it. If you have to use it try to use the "battery saver mode" and put high accuaricy when you are going to use the GPS for a precise fix or navigation. Google Play Services have and excess use of wackelocks due to location, they are listed ass NLPcollectorwackelock and NLPwackelock.
-If you are on Wifi turn off data and if you are in data turn off Wifi. If you can use both try to use Wifi with a good wifi signal. It uses a little bit less battery that 4G for me.
-Unninstall apps that you are not using or going to use in a short-mid time. They may be running in the background and eating
juice.
-Turn off automatic brigthness. Put your brigth to the minimun you are happy with. I used mine almost in the minimun and i see the screen perfect. Also remember that the power scale is non linear. Putting the wheel in the half of the brigthness bar is not getting you "half the brigthness of the screen".
Download autobrigth switch https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abrody.brightness&hl=es_419 .This make you turn autobrigthness on with a click. This is very usefull if you are outside, let you see the screen with 100% and then let turn it off when you are inside. It is a easy way to manage brigthness.
IMPORTANT:When you are not using your device it must go to sleep mode. It is a mode where the CPU is almost turned off and it doens't drain much battery. Later in this guide i will explain how to properly install a Battery monitor program. It is very important to watch if the device is sleeping ok and there aren't apps with bad behaviours keeping the device awake and draining your battery. This can be seem in GSAM Battery monitor watching the held awake tab. If an app is keeping your device awake you have to uninstall or contact the developer and tell him about your problem with his app.
Tunning the system to Optimize the Battery and Performance:
For this part you will need to have installed ADB drivers, you can download and install from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
You have to activated debug mode on the phone:
Go to settings, about phone, tap 7 times the Compilation Number until you see a message saying that you are a developper. Now go to settingss, developer and activated USB DEBUG mode. To see what apps are running in the background on your phone go to settings, developer, in execution.
Also you will need to install 4 more free apps, later they can be uninstalled if you want:
App inspector to know the name of certain package:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bg.projectoria.appinspector
App Ops to manage special permissions of apps:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.findsdk.apppermission&hl=es
Shizuku Manager is needed to give the permissions necesary to App Ops:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=moe.shizuku.privileged.api
Gsam battery Monitor for monitoring apps usage:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm&hl=es
The aim of this part of the guide is to disable all the features and apps that may be drainning your battery.
All of this can be reverted one by one after getting a good battery and testing the results and the impact on battery life:
-Turn off location, bluetooth, NFC.
-Go to moto app and turn off Moto Voice, Moto screen, Wave to wake. I keep the flaslight and the cam gesture on but you can dissable them if you want.
-Go to settingss, Motorola privacy and turn off enhancet device support and help us with bla bla.
-Go to settings, security, back up and turn off data back up.
-Go to settings, location, turn of Google location History and share location of google. In the Rigth upper corner tap on the 3 dots and turn of bluetooth scanning and wifi scanning.
-Go to settings, google, search, and turn off all the features like feed, nearby, voice detection, notifications, doodles, google fit, firebase App Indexing.
-Go to settings, google, security, dissable google play protect,etc. (If you consider this ass important do not disable it)
-Go to settings, apps, tap the 3 dots in the upper rigth corner and tap on show system apps. Disable Motorola device manager and Motorola notifications. Also delete the apps data.
-Go to accounts and turn off syncronizations of all the things you really don't need. For instance in google account i left on contacts, Chrome and Contacts info only.
-If you are using chrome go to settingss, site configuration. Turn off location, notifications, sync in the background. In the sync settings just let the chrome sync only what you need.
-Disable all google and motorola apps that you are not using. For instance Google Duo, hangouts, play music, play books, play games, carrier services, Motorola connect, talkback, devices help, etc.
-Search for apps that ask for permission you think they don't need it. Speacially location.
-Turn off special permission that you think apps don't need. The special permission can be managed going to settings, apps, tap the wheel, advance-special acces:Look to "change system settings" and "get over other aplications". Also turn off acces to data usage for Google Play and Google Play services.
-Go to settingss, security, trusted agents, disable smartlock.
-If you have apps like greenify installed, uninstall them.
-If you have home widgets be sure that they are not using your location and also if it posible put the refresh time to the minimum.
-I don't use GBOARD, it was not working ok for me and also draining battery. So i search in the internet and donwload the latest google keyboard version before GBOARD, it works perfect. I do not recommend GBOARD as it is not working ok and it is not propperly optimized.
Using ADB for Background process:
The next step consist of disabling System process and apps that you no not need to run in the background, for example MotoCare:
Motocare is a system process that runs in the background and collects info of your device use even if you turn off motorola privacy features. That not makes much sense but it is there and can't be disable in a easy way.
After installing ADB, drivers and turning on USB DEBUG MODE, plug the phone, go to the search bar in windows and search for CMD. Open it.
Write:
abd devices
Is everything is ok you will see a device in the list that is your Moto x Style. If not figure out what is the problem, make sure DEBUG MODE is on and that you give the propper permission in the phone.
Then write:
adb -d shell pm grant com.gsamlabs.bbm android.permission.BATTERY_STATS
This will let you see full wakelock list in GSAM Battery Monitor app. This is very important to know if there is an app keeping your device awake.
next:
abd shell
cmd appops set "com.motorola.motocare" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
cmd appops set "com.motorola.motocare.internal" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
This last two lines will stop motocare. After this go to apps, with "show system apps" on search motocare and motocareint and delete all the data. After that check that motocare is not running in the background.
cmd appops set "com.motorola.ccc.ota" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
cmd appops set "com.motorola.ccc.checkin" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
This will turn off OTA services. If you want to take an OTA after this, (if motorola ever send another OTA for our device) you can just go to settingss, about phone and check for update manually. (After enabling Motorola device Manager and Motorola Notification). Anyway is there is a new OTA you probably are going to know it from XDA forums.
You can use the same command to disable apps that you don't need to run in the background but you want to use.
To use this commands just open app inspector, search the app you want. Copy the package name and use the command with that package. Anyway in the next step i will show you a easy way to do the same with other apps that are not from the system.
If you want to re enable and app to run in the background just reinstall it or write the same sentence changing "ignore" for "allow":
For example with Facebook. If you search it in app ops the package name is com.facebook.katana . The name of the package is "katana" because it is like smashing your battery with a Katana lol.
adb shell
cmd appops set "com.facebook.katana" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
to enable it:
cmd appops set "com.facebook.katana" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND allow
My advice is to not use this command with google services or with system apps you don't know what they do in your phone. It may get you in a problem.
Now we are going to see another way to stop apps for running in the background. This is usefull with apps that you want to keep and don't want to run in the background.
For example in my case, i use facebook app but don't want it to run in the background. Also i disable all navitagion apps to run in the background, Here we go and google maps in my case. They both work perfect when I open they, don't need them running in the background. I let apps like WhatsApp, Instagram, Tinder, Facebook Messenger to run in the background because i want to know when someone send a message and don't want to wait until i open the app. If you don't need the notifications my advice is to don't let run in the background. That will get you a considerable amount of battery. Whatsapp have a lot of battery drain. For some reasons it has the acelerometer turn on a ridiculous amount of time and it triggers google play services wackelock PackageMeasuremntservice.
Connect the phone via usb and launch terminal as we did before, search bar and search button, type CMD and open it. Open Shizuku Manager
Wrote in the terminal:
adb shell sh /sdcard/Android/data/moe.shizuku.privileged.api/files/start.sh
if you do it rigth you will see that the server starts running. Now unplugg your phone, close shizuku manager and open App Ops. If you turn off your phone you will have to repeat the process in order to get app ops running again.
Search for apps that you don't want to run in the background. In the permission settings there is "run in the background", you can turn it off or on from there. It has exact the same effect that doing it in the ADB terminal ass we did it in the previous step. But motocare can't be disabled from the app.
Also you can manage all the permission from the apps one by one in a lot better detailed way than from the stock app settings..
There is also a trick with google play services and location. I am getting a big wake up with NLPcollector and variants. If you turn off the network location permission in google play services it will stop the wakelock even if you have your location ON. That make google play services almost drainless. The problem is that some apps may not get a correct location in "battery saving mode" because they use google play services. This is fixed turning on high presition mode or device only mode and letting the GPS do the location work only when you need it.
Finally you can tweak all your apps permissions and see the battery results. The two most important permission related to battery life are the location and the background one. Try to disable location for everything you don't need to be tracking you.
Tunning your Moto X Style:
To get the new Camera app from motorola:
Go to apps, search for stock camera app and disable it. Delete all the app data. Go to settings, security and turn on "Unkown Sources".After that donwload the moded camera app from this tread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/themes-apps/moto-camera-6-0-43-10-modded-apk-t3459690
Restart your phonr and Install it! Now you have the new camera app . It work almost perfect, the only things that are not working for me are: Twist to change to selfie mode, shutter time in pro mode and white balance in pro mode. Don't forget to thanks the developer for this great app. Also turn off Unkonw Sources after the installation.
To get the Moto Z command Widget:
Donwload and install this app:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/themes-apps/moto-z-command-center-widget-t3417171
Don't forget to turn location of the widget off, you can put your location manually and save battery.
Launcher 3:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/themes/moto-z2-play-launcher-google-root-t3623608
It is the new Motorola Stock Launcher. You can try the Moto G5 Launcher too, it is in XDA.
Unlock Method:
The phone doesn't have fingerprint scanner but a good alternative is to use face unlock. LG and Samsung do a lot of marketing of something that is build in on android stock and work almost perfect. Go to security, turn smartlock on.Then go to smartlock and turn on face detection. It works like a charm, is almost instantaneous. My advice is to do this after getting a good battery life as smartlock features can affect battery. Make sure you don't have on trusted places on Smartlock as it drains your battery. Also if you have location ON it may drain your battery even if you don't have trusted place on, so take care. The trusted face feature on its own drains a negligible % of battery.
As i stated in the beggining:
If you want the best battery life you always have to do a compromise between it and features of the phone. For example i love moto display and the wave to wake feature but it takes so much juice of my phone.
My advice is to do all the steps, make sure you are getting a good battery life and after that start reenabling one by one the features you need and watching the impact of them in your battery life. Also i know that some of the stuff i mention may have a negligible impact in battery for themselves but when you put all together they do make a difference. My phone is draining almost 0% on stand by mode with doze. I let it with a %, go to sleep and when i wake up i have the same %.
At this moment i am testing battery on my phone and seeying wich features do make a big diference in battery life.
For instance i am using smartlock, face unlock with location off and in security settings i have android device manager enabled. They seems to not affect the battery performance so much. I will continue testing features to see wich ones are the main offenders.
Any suggestion or any question is welcome! Also if this helps you please let me know and post your battery life before and after.

Great guide, although might a bit extreme for some people to do all of these things.
I can tell you the biggest increase in battery life i have seen is to disable the Moto Display and Moto Gesture to wave over the display... My idle usage has stopped in half and maintains around 2% with it all off.

acejavelin said:
Great guide, although might a bit extreme for some people to do all of these things.
I can tell you the biggest increase in battery life i have seen is to disable the Moto Display and Moto Gesture to wave over the display... My idle usage has stopped in half and maintains around 2% with it all off.
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Yes, i know that for some people it may be too much, but the guide is divided in parts so anyone can take what they seem comfortable with.
I agree with you, wave to wake and moto display are the main offenders and i feel that with nougat the battery drain of this features get agravated a lot more. It is a shame because i really like that features but they drain your battery even with the screen on..

Great guide, thanks
With the Nougat update my sot is way better up to 4 h, while on mm it was around 3.5h.
I just wonder why buy a phone with features like wave hand, etc. and not using them?
That's a pity that Moto doesn't have d2w like lg phones, it's very handy.
I don't like to look for button to press it every time.
I know that's everybody's choice. Just my 2 cents.
Does turning off all location stuff that you mentioned affects any usability, notifications, etc?
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2be3_80 said:
Great guide, thanks
With the Nougat update my sot is way better up to 4 h, while on mm it was around 3.5h.
I just wonder why buy a phone with features like wave hand, etc. and not using them?
That's a pity that Moto doesn't have d2w like lg phones, it's very handy.
I don't like to look for button to press it every time.
I know that's everybody's choice. Just my 2 cents.
Does turning off all location stuff that you mentioned affects any usability, notifications, etc?
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If your SOT increased on Nougat, it is because the OS is more efficient elsewhere... hardware power draw cannot be changed with software.
Why not use the gestures? Like anything else, they are unnecessary for normal operation and consume extra battery, waiting for detect you waving your hand over the display takes some power, not a lot, but over 10-12 hours it is noticeable... Why buy a phone with gestures if your just going to turn them off? Because the pluses outweigh the negative and there is no perfect device.
Moto probably doesn't implement DT2W because the screen technology they use would require the screen (digitizer actually) to be powered all the time, increasing idle battery draw from 2-5% per hour. It is implemented in some 3rd party kernels and ROMs, but few people use it because over 12 hours of sleeping time, it consumes 25%-50% of your battery capacity. :/
I'm not going to get into the other stuff, things like disabling Google Play services and location services and stuff like that, just take away too much functionality for my taste for what you gain. In general when not traveling, I need 3 hours of SOT in a day and this device generally makes that. When traveling (which I did on very regular basis for years until this week) I was under 50% before 9am and near dead by noon if I didn't charge or connect to battery pack. So in general these optimization are not enough to do what I need, so I just skip them.

2be3_80 said:
Great guide, thanks
With the Nougat update my sot is way better up to 4 h, while on mm it was around 3.5h.
I just wonder why buy a phone with features like wave hand, etc. and not using them?
That's a pity that Moto doesn't have d2w like lg phones, it's very handy.
I don't like to look for button to press it every time.
I know that's everybody's choice. Just my 2 cents.
Does turning off all location stuff that you mentioned affects any usability, notifications, etc?
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For my after nougat update the battery life go to Hell. I was getting 3hs lf SoT wich is unaceptable for me.
I understand your point and i really like wave to wake. It is nice. For my is nicer to have 5hs or more of SoT. In nougat my wave to wake eats battery like crazy and i really don't need it much. Answering your question, disabling motocare only disable motorola remote support. All the other moto stuff doesn't affect the phone, only disable the OTAs. There is nothing in the guide that compromise basic functionality of the phone, maybe only disabling location permission on google play services with app ops can affect location on some apps. As i stated in the end, everyone have to chose between functionalitis and battery life.
After i managed to get 6hs SoT i start to enabling things and test how was my battery life. I will stop in the 5 hours SoT limit.
At this moment i reenable: moto voice, location in saving mode, smart lock with face unlock, android administrator to lock the device remotely and i am getting between 5hs to 5:20hs SoT. Next step is to try with moto display.

NahuelMS said:
For my after nougat update the battery life go to Hell. I was getting 3hs lf SoT wich is unaceptable for me.
I understand your point and i really like wave to wake. It is nice. For my is nicer to have 5hs or more of SoT. In nougat my wave to wake eats battery like crazy and i really don't need it much. Answering your question, disabling motocare only disable motorola remote support. All the other moto stuff doesn't affect the phone, only disable the OTAs. There is nothing in the guide that compromise basic functionality of the phone, maybe only disabling location permission on google play services with app ops can affect location on some apps. As i stated in the end, everyone have to chose between functionalitis and battery life.
After i managed to get 6hs SoT i start to enabling things and test how was my battery life. I will stop in the 5 hours SoT limit.
At this moment i reenable: moto voice, location in saving mode, smart lock with face unlock, android administrator to lock the device remotely and i am getting between 5hs to 5:20hs SoT. Next step is to try with moto display.
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I have run ADB commands and after each and everyone I had no confirmation dialogue nor anything.
I have rebooted device and how can I check if I had done everything right?
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2be3_80 said:
I have run ADB commands and after each and everyone I had no confirmation dialogue nor anything.
I have rebooted device and how can I check if I had done everything right?
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If you have done everything rigth you wont see the apps running unless you open they. To see process in execution you have to go to seetings, about device, tap 7 times build number until you get the message that you are a developer.
Go to seeting again, you will see developer option. In there you search for in execution. If you do everything rigth you wont see motocare or moto things runnings. Same with the apps like facebook, etc. They only appear in execution when you open they or have they in recent apps.
Let me know if your battery get improved.

This if from last test:
Enabled moto display, moto voice, face unlock, location in battery saving mode. Disabling background things really help with battety life.

NahuelMS said:
This if from last test:
Enabled moto display, moto voice, face unlock, location in battery saving mode. Disabling background things really help with battety life.
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That's really good achievement.
I can't get close to your results.
I have disabled moto apps running in background, location off, Moto display on, wave hand on.
I only use WiFi/network when needed.
Hmm what could be the culprit?
On this charge I think I will get about 4h sot.
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2be3_80 said:
That's really good achievement.
I can't get close to your results.
I have disabled moto apps running in background, location off, Moto display on, wave hand on.
I only use WiFi/network when needed.
Hmm what could be the culprit?
On this charge I think I will get about 4h sot.
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Yes, i think the average for those conditions is 5 hs (mine conditions)
Are you using turbocharger? How old is your phone? Maybe the battery is getting bad? Did you disable apps like facebook running in the background? Installed Gsam Battery monitor amd check there isn't an app eating your juice or keeping your device awake? Do you have good signal? My best advice is to do all the steps of the guide and see how much of battery life are you getting in that condition. Them start reenabling things like moto voice, moto display and finaly wave to wake. Did your battery got improved dissabling moto stuff?
Wave to wake for my on Nougat was a battery hog. Maybe try to disable it and see how much your battery improves!

My phone is from February 2017, never used turbocharger (I believe it's killing battery over time). Not using Facebook.
When updated to Nougat I did factory reset and disabled various Google apps that I don't use, like Duo, Google+, etc.
My sot was around 4 h with Moto display and wave hand gesture. After disabling Moto stuff from your guide though ADB I haven't noticed any improvements. I will observe few more days. I don't have any Moto update processes running in background.
I use Gboard and like it very much, so it's a keeper for me.
Thanks
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2be3_80 said:
My phone is from February 2017, never used turbocharger (I believe it's killing battery over time). Not using Facebook.
When updated to Nougat I did factory reset and disabled various Google apps that I don't use, like Duo, Google+, etc.
My sot was around 4 h with Moto display and wave hand gesture. After disabling Moto stuff from your guide though ADB I haven't noticed any improvements. I will observe few more days. I don't have any Moto update processes running in background.
I use Gboard and like it very much, so it's a keeper for me.
Thanks
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Try one or two days without wave to wake and see how much battery you can get. I don't think Gboard should be a deal breaker in battery life in comparison with google keyboard, i don't think it is the problem. Maybe there is an app keepping your device awake? Your phone is almost new so i doubt from battery problems. Can you post a screenshot of battery usage and signal, awake time, etc, from your android battery usage?
This is from today with mid usage and time with low signal:

Today I did factory reset and will observe how it goes without tweaks but with most apps shipped with phone disabled that I don't use

2be3_80 said:
Today I did factory reset and will observe how it goes without tweaks but with most apps shipped with phone disabled that I don't use
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If you allready did a factory reset i don't think it will give much battery in same conditions and take into account that android take some cycles to calibrate the system and the apps, so battery duration should getting extended during the first week until it reach a plateau.

Just an FYI... Up until a week or so ago, I was averaging 2h 45m to 3h screen on time in an average day and since I started using my phone for work (BYOD program, always had a separate work device before) the battery life started really mattering so I made the following changes...
- Dropped Facebook and Messenger (MASSIVE battery hog apps, always at the top of the list) and moved to Facebook Lite (yes, you can get it in the US, just have to use APKMirror, and it includes Messenger services in the same app)
- Dropped Accuweather (was keeping device awake and accessing location dozens to hundreds of times per hour) and switched to 1Weather
- Dropped Microsoft Outlook (keeping device awake and using background data, and a Device Administrator I didn't want) and switched to Nine
- Dropped OpenSignal (was using background data and waking device very frequently)
- Disabled Moto Display entirely
- Disabled Moto Action Wave to Wake
These 6 things are all I have done... I keep all services active, high accuracy location, all accounts and services syncing, no background data restrictions, no disabled apps, backup and other services like Motorola services all running, no adjustments in permissions, using Gboard as my default keyboard, and I have ~120 apps installed, 80% of which are occasional use only. I use a Quick Charger about 50% of the time for boost charging at work or when traveling, but overnights it is on a standard (5v/1.8A) charger and not QC. I have seen my Doze and Deep Sleep times increase significantly, with Deep Sleep time approaching to 75%... And Screen On Time over a normal day increasing by nearly an hour on average... In fact, yesterday I had my best SoT in over a year with 4h 28m over a 16 hour day in mixed use, including a 6 hour YuGiOh tournament where I used the phone to keep score of my matches (with marginal LTE service and no WiFi), going out to eat 20 minutes away, and then back home for some video game time with friends and still have 20% battery remaining when it went back on the charger, probably could have gotten 5.5 hours if I pushed it near zero. Making it sufficient for daily use for me again.
Am I saying this is the answer for everyone? No, but install a good battery monitoring tool like GSAM Battery Monitor and see what is using your battery (make sure to enable advanced reporting, requires ADB connection)... and don't just look at the default screens, dig into the app after some use. The "View % Power Used" screen only tells part of the story... Make sure to look at View Number Times Waking Device, View GPS Time Used, and View Time Held Awake because some things are not always so obvious. Accuweather for one was "hiding" some of it's usage in Android System and Google services in the View % Power Screen, but when you looked in View Time Held Awake and View GPS Time Used, it became evident it was doing something.
Some other apps which can be culprits are shopping apps, they often track where you are frequently... such as Walmart, Sam's Club, Best Buy, CVS, and most other dedicated apps for shopping. Alternative messaging apps like Messenger, Whatsapp, Kik, Skype, Viber, SnapChat (currently the #1 battery killer out there according to several sources), etc. often keep the device awake and use background data. Airline and other travel apps often check your location every minute or even more frequently even when not open. "Optimizer" apps like LionMobi Power Battery, CleanMaster, and similar tools are worthless and usually consume more resources than they help with. News apps like BBC News often use background data and keep the device awake... Some of these apps might be worth it's battery consumption for your usage, maybe not, the point is to know the problem and decide if it's needs to be fixed or not.
All I am saying here is that before you blame the device or hardware, make sure it isn't your software or usage that is the real culprit, but sometimes it does take some digging.

The last update to the clock app is buggy for me. It is using massive CPU and kepping my device awake for hours. It is important to check if it is working ok.

NahuelMS said:
The last update to the clock app is buggy for me. It is using massive CPU and kepping my device awake for hours. It is important to check if it is working ok.
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I would try clearing the clock cache / data
On Gsam the clock doesn't even show up on my CPU usage.

Hemidrosis said:
I would try clearing the clock cache / data
On Gsam the clock doesn't even show up on my CPU usage.
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Allready did that but it didn't fix it. The problem was sporadiclly. Finally uninnstaled the update, cleared all the data and updated again, no sign of the problem for now! Thanks!

Facebook lite and messenger lite if you use those services help a ton all by themselves. Shopping apps I disallow them using background data and location. It's doesn't take that long to grab location once open. Saves a great deal of data and battery.. Amazon apps turn off background data takes care of most battery drain issues related to them.