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Before I get flamed, let me say that I have done ALOT of research on the questions I am about to ask, and the fact of the matter that there is a lot of conflicting information out there. So please bear with me.
I am on a rooted phone, Android 4.1.1, Sense 4+, 3.18.502.6 radio, kernal version 3.4.10
Rooted with S-on
So here's my questions:
1. Can I install a custom rom with S-on?
2. If the answer is yes, can someone give me the quick run-down, or at the very least point me in the direction of another thread that I can refer to?
3. I have read conflicting threads that claim that with S-on, I need to flash the boot.img first, other threads say just go ahead and flash the ROM
Some of these threads are 30+ pages long and go back to 2012. If you miss one post in the thread then you're screwed. Any help is appreciated. For the record these forums have been extremely helpful. Successfully rooted two phones in the past year. I understand the rooting very, flashing custom roms gives me the willies.
First thing, why not just s-off and solve your problems? It's super simple. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155071
But the answer is... Sometimes. Sometimes you need to flash the boot.img. If you're unsure, just do it anyways. This can be done by
1. Extracting the boot.img from the ROM zip archive you wish to flash.
2. Placing it in your adb working directory.
3. Enter fastboot on your phone.
4. fastboot flash boot boot.img
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RollTribe said:
First thing, why not just s-off and solve your problems? It's super simple. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155071
But the answer is... Sometimes. Sometimes you need to flash the boot.img. If you're unsure, just do it anyways. This can be done by
1. Extracting the boot.img from the ROM zip archive you wish to flash.
2. Placing it in your adb working directory.
3. Enter fastboot on your phone.
4. fastboot flash boot boot.img
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Thanks Man! I'll give the S-off a shot. I'll take your advice and just flasht he boot.img, just to be on the safe side
I am thinking about flashing the CleanRom, unless anyone has any other suggestions
Fivetenfrank said:
Thanks Man! I'll give the S-off a shot. I'll take your advice and just flasht he boot.img, just to be on the safe side
I am thinking about flashing the CleanRom, unless anyone has any other suggestions
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If you're s-off there's no need to flash boot.img.
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RollTribe said:
If you're s-off there's no need to flash boot.img.
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Thanks. One last question. Ok maybe not the last one but one more question regardless.
With custom roms, does the rom need to be based on the same firmware that's on my stock phone? I other words, right now my phone has build 3.18.502.6. I found a rom that I really like that's based on 3.8.402.1. Is that custom rom compatible with my phone?
Fivetenfrank said:
3. I have read conflicting threads that claim that with S-on, I need to flash the boot.img first, other threads say just go ahead and flash the ROM
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The short (and incomplete) answer is that "it depends".
If you are s-on and hboot 1.14 or higher, you need to flash boot.img separately using fastboot. A few ROMs (ViperXL, some versions of CleanROM) will flash boot.img in the AROMA installer. But most will not.
Failure to do so will mean the kernel for the custom ROM is not flashed, and you will likely bootloop or be stuck on the boot screen.
Another option, as already mentioned, is to get S-off. But be aware that S-off means that all security checks are bypassed. Meaning you can flash lots of things, with security checks bypassed. Sometimes this is good, sometimes it can be really bad.
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Fivetenfrank said:
With custom roms, does the rom need to be based on the same firmware that's on my stock phone?
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Typically no.
There are some exceptions. For instance, if you did OTA or RUU to get on the 3.18 stock ROM, the touch panel firmware was upgraded, and AOSP ROMs will not work right (no touch functions). The solution is to have S-off and downgrade the touch panel firmware.
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right now my phone has build 3.18.502.6. I found a rom that I really like that's based on 3.8.402.1. Is that custom rom compatible with my phone?
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Link the ROM, and I can probably answer that for you pretty easily.
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redpoint73 said:
The short (and incomplete) answer is that "it depends".
If you are s-on and hboot 1.14 or higher, you need to flash boot.img separately using fastboot. A few ROMs (ViperXL, some versions of CleanROM) will flash boot.img in the AROMA installer. But most will not.
Failure to do so will mean the kernel for the custom ROM is not flashed, and you will likely bootloop or be stuck on the boot screen.
Another option, as already mentioned, is to get S-off. But be aware that S-off means that all security checks are bypassed. Meaning you can flash lots of things, with security checks bypassed. Sometimes this is good, sometimes it can be really bad.
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Typically no.
There are some exceptions. For instance, if you did OTA or RUU to get on the 3.18 stock ROM, the touch panel firmware was upgraded, and AOSP ROMs will not work right (no touch functions). The solution is to have S-off and downgrade the touch panel firmware.
Link the ROM, and I can probably answer that for you pretty easily.
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It won't link to the rom because XDA won't let me because I am a new user. It's Scott's CleanRom version 6.5. It says its built on the 3.17 OTA build
My phone is a week old. It stock with 4.1.1 and 3.18.502.6. No OTA updates happening here. So can I assume the touchpanel firmware will NOT be an issue since 3.18 is stock?
And I'm not going to mess with S-off. Ill stick with S-on for now.
You should be fine to flash it. Like redpoint said, you may have to flash the boot.img. I can't remember whether CR6.5 flashes the boot.img for you or not. To be on the safe side, go ahead and flash it.
Fivetenfrank said:
It won't link to the rom because XDA won't let me because I am a new user. It's Scott's CleanRom version 6.5. It says its built on the 3.17 OTA build
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Fair enough. CR6.5 will work great. One thing to note however, recent versions of TWRP (2.4 and 2.5) are known to be problematic and will not work with CR6.5. Either use an older TWRP (2.3) or use the official CWM.
Fivetenfrank said:
My phone is a week old. It stock with 4.1.1 and 3.18.502.6. No OTA updates happening here. So can I assume the touchpanel firmware will NOT be an issue since 3.18 is stock?
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That would be the incorrect assumption. Since the phone came out of the box with 3.18, it will have the upgraded touch panel firmware. Meaning AOSP ROMs will not have a functional touch screen, unless you S-off and downgrade the touch panel firmware.
For Sense ROMs, its doesn't matter, you are fine with the upgraded touch panel firmware.
BTW, please hit the "Thanks" button for any posts that you found helpful!
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Fair enough. CR6.5 will work great. One thing to note however, recent versions of TWRP (2.4 and 2.5) are known to be problematic and will not work with CR6.5. Either use an older TWRP (2.3) or use the official CWM.
That would be the incorrect assumption. Since the phone came out of the box with 3.18, it will have the upgraded touch panel firmware. Meaning AOSP ROMs will not have a functional touch screen, unless you S-off and downgrade the touch panel firmware.
For Sense ROMs, its doesn't matter, you are fine with the upgraded touch panel firmware.
BTW, please hit the "Thanks" button for any posts that you found helpful!
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I think I am in good shape. CleanRom is built on Sense. Ill flash the boot.img first to be on the safe side. Btw according to Scott's website for this Rom, with respect to TWRP vs CWM, this is what he says:
"Must have TWRP Recovery installed with unlocked bootloader! CWM Recovery not supported!" Can I get a clarification?
Once this is all done ill post and let everyone know how I made out. Going back now and "thanking" all who have replied
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I think I am in good shape. CleanRom is built on Sense. Ill flash the boot.img first to be on the safe side.
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Since your phone is on 3.18, and CleanROM is 3.17 base, I don't know if you can be completely sure there haven't been kernel changes. You're right, it might be the same (or same enough) kernel, but to be on the safe side, it won't hurt to flash the boot.img.
Fivetenfrank said:
Btw according to Scott's website for this Rom, with respect to TWRP vs CWM, this is what he says:
"Must have TWRP Recovery installed with unlocked bootloader! CWM Recovery not supported!" Can I get a clarification?
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Its an outdated statement. There was a time where CWM was only a unofficial (somewhat hacked) port, and caused some serious issues for some people, that then wrongly blamed scrosler and his ROM.
None of this is very relevant any longer. CWM is officially supported for our device. It works great with CleanROM 6.5 (its what I'm currently using); when I will guarantee you that the latest TWRP 2.5.0.0 will not work with CleanROM 6.5. And anything after TWRP 2.3.1.1 is known to be problematic for our device. So its really up to you, which recovery is the best to use.
If you pick CWM, this is the thread you want:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148909
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Since your phone is on 3.18, and CleanROM is 3.17 base, I don't know if you can be completely sure there haven't been kernel changes. You're right, it might be the same (or same enough) kernel, but to be on the safe side, it won't hurt to flash the boot.img.
Its an outdated statement. There was a time where CWM was only a unofficial (somewhat hacked) port, and caused some serious issues for some people, that then wrongly blamed scrosler and his ROM.
None of this is very relevant any longer. CWM is officially supported for our device. It works great with CleanROM 6.5 (its what I'm currently using); when I will guarantee you that the latest TWRP 2.5.0.0 will not work with CleanROM 6.5. And anything after TWRP 2.3.1.1 is known to be problematic for our device. So its really up to you, which recovery is the best to use.
If you pick CWM, this is the thread you want:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148909
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Ok so noted. CWM is the way to go. So next question. How complicated is the process to remove TWRP before I flash CWM?
Fivetenfrank said:
Ok so noted. CWM is the way to go. So next question. How complicated is the process to remove TWRP before I flash CWM?
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You don't have to remove TWRP. Just flash over the top of it with CWM.
Egrier said:
You don't have to remove TWRP. Just flash over the top of it with CWM.
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Got it. Wish me me luck fellas. I am going to give this a whirl tonight
Hey while I have everyone's attention, are there any other roms out there worth checking out for someone like me? That's probably a loaded question given the fact that theres a boat load of Roms out there... but all opinions welcomed!
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Ok so noted. CWM is the way to go. So next question. How complicated is the process to remove TWRP before I flash CWM?
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Just for the record, I'm not saying that CWM is necessarily better. Either CWM, or TWRP 2.3.1.1. Your choice. But TWRP 2.5 definitely does not work with CleanROM 6.5, and TWRP 2.4 has issues, also.
As already mentioned, no need to remove TWRP. Just flash CWM, and TWRP will be removed.
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Fivetenfrank said:
Hey while I have everyone's attention, are there any other roms out there worth checking out for someone like me? That's probably a loaded question given the fact that theres a boat load of Roms out there... but all opinions welcomed!
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Yes, that is a loaded question. They are all worth checking out! To suggest one (or a few), would suggest the others are somehow "not worth" checking out. Which is really not fair to the devs that have worked so hard to give us these ROMs.
Look through the ROMs, and if any look interesting, try them. This is what most of us do. You already mentioned you aren't going to s-off yet, so the AOSP ROMs are out (due to the touch panel firmware issue).
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Just for the record, I'm not saying that CWM is necessarily better. Either CWM, or TWRP 2.3.1.1. Your choice. But TWRP 2.5 definitely does not work with CleanROM 6.5, and TWRP 2.4 has issues, also.
As already mentioned, no need to remove TWRP. Just flash CWM, and TWRP will be removed.
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Yes, that is a loaded question. They are all worth checking out! To suggest one (or a few), would suggest the others are somehow "not worth" checking out. Which is really not fair to the devs that have worked so hard to give us these ROMs.
Look through the ROMs, and if any look interesting, try them. This is what most of us do. You already mentioned you aren't going to s-off yet, so the AOSP ROMs are out (due to the touch panel firmware issue).
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Yep, AOSPs are out. Thanks for all of your help everyone. Going to try this tonight. Hopefully I wont have a paperweight by this time tomorrow
Fivetenfrank said:
Yep, AOSPs are out. Thanks for all of your help everyone. Going to try this tonight. Hopefully I wont have a paperweight by this time tomorrow
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Go slow follow directions and your phone will be fine. Don't skip steps or shortcut anything. That's where problems arise.
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31ken31 said:
Go slow follow directions and your phone will be fine. Don't skip steps or shortcut anything. That's where problems arise.
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Thanks for the heads up. I am good on the instructions. I have found a multitude of posts outlining the steps. My biggest fear is/was the compatibility issue - flashing a rom that's not compatible with my phone. I tried flashing a Rom a couple of months ago on an HTC One X on 2.20, and I bricked it. I flashed the wrong Rom. Luckily AT&T didnt catch it and they gave me a new phone. I had to get another new phone this week past because my old HTC One X died for some unknown reason. AT&T gave me another one on warranty. This new one has the 3.18
Sounds like you flashed a ROM for the quad core "international" version (ENDEAVORU). Stick to this forum (says "AT&T" at the top) and any ROM you flash will be fine.
Or use my Index thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
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Sounds like you flashed a ROM for the quad core "international" version (ENDEAVORU). Stick to this forum (says "AT&T" at the top) and any ROM you flash will be fine.
Or use my Index thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
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If my memory serves me correctly, that's exactly what I did.
So i just got this phone. I was told it was rooted and running alliance rom but its not they took it back to stock i guess. I am wanting to put alliance rom on it. It is on 4.3 and its nc1. It has safestrap on it because super user is on it and when i go into the safestrap app and go to recovery it takes me to the safestrap recovery. I tried to install twrp and it said root was required so i check root with root checker and it says its not rooted. My goal is to have it rooted running alliance rom (or if y'all have any suggestions on roms lol feel free to suggest) and being running smooth. any information would be helpful. thanks! :good:
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So i just got this phone. I was told it was rooted and running alliance rom but its not they took it back to stock i guess. I am wanting to put alliance rom on it. It is on 4.3 and its nc1. It has safestrap on it because super user is on it and when i go into the safestrap app and go to recovery it takes me to the safestrap recovery. I tried to install twrp and it said root was required so i check root with root checker and it says its not rooted. My goal is to have it rooted running alliance rom (or if y'all have any suggestions on roms lol feel free to suggest) and being running smooth. any information would be helpful. thanks! :good:
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use safestrap to install alliance, Now that you are on 4.3 you can not use the normal version of twrp. You can install over the stock rom I wouldn't recommend it but I understand why people do.
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use safestrap to install alliance, Now that you are on 4.3 you can not use the normal version of twrp. You can install over the stock rom I wouldn't recommend it but I understand why people do.
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so i just install alliance like normal and then flash like normal? what about the modem that it says to flash do i flash that as well?
pitbullmommy45245 said:
so i just install alliance like normal and then flash like normal? what about the modem that it says to flash do i flash that as well?
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I think its just the modules you need to flash (fixes wifi for locked phones). The modem flash is for people on a unlocked bootloader. If you have connectivity problems try to flash the modem file because alliance is based on ml1 and nobody is sure if the modem is different in the new update.
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I think its just the modules you need to flash (fixes wifi for locked phones). The modem flash is for people on a unlocked bootloader. If you have connectivity problems try to flash the modem file because alliance is based on ml1 and nobody is sure if the modem is different in the new update.
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i don't want to brick my phone though lol. i don't have data on my phone and i'm using it on tmobile. i just am worried about talk/text and wifi.
pitbullmommy45245 said:
i don't want to brick my phone though lol. i don't have data on my phone and i'm using it on tmobile. i just am worried about talk/text and wifi.
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As long as you don't try to downgrade past 4.3 or try to unlock your bootloader your pretty safe. Any brick you encounter can easily be fixed by a ml1 or nc1 odin flash. If the modem doesn't work with alliance you wont brick by flashing the ml1 modem. seriously stay away from pre 4.3 odin files, bootloader unlock, and custom recovery's that are not safestrap its a headache to unbrick. Also be aware that you can only flash touch wiz 4.3 roms (no aosp).
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As long as you don't try to downgrade past 4.3 or try to unlock your bootloader your pretty safe. Any brick you encounter can easily be fixed by a ml1 or nc1 odin flash. If the modem doesn't work with alliance you wont brick by flashing the ml1 modem. seriously stay away from pre 4.3 odin files, bootloader unlock, and custom recovery's that are not safestrap its a headache to unbrick. Also be aware that you can only flash touch wiz 4.3 roms (no aosp).
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so i thought i had root and i just went into safestrap and it says i don't have root.
pitbullmommy45245 said:
so i thought i had root and i just went into safestrap and it says i don't have root.
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Well that answers a question I had does safestrap work on nc1. Flash ml1 in odin and root with saferoot then install safestrap. You should be good to go after that.
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Well that answers a question I had does safestrap work on nc1. Flash ml1 in odin and root with saferoot then install safestrap. You should be good to go after that.
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i thought that it was dangerous to flash in odin.
pitbullmommy45245 said:
i thought that it was dangerous to flash in odin.
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if you stay on 4.3 and do not unplug mid flash its safe enough. I have never had a problem other than the time I tried to odin to 4.1.2 after I took the 4.3 update.
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Just because your new to the s3 I will help you out
Odin________ If you need help follow the odin guid here
ML1
Saferoot yes its in the s4 forum but it works perfect on the s3
Safestrap read the op from top to bottom
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oh and when you odin to ml1 your internal data will be formatted so make sure you backup anything you want saved.
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if you stay on 4.3 and do not unplug mid flash its safe enough. I have never had a problem other than the time I tried to odin to 4.1.2 after I took the 4.3 update.
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Just because your new to the s3 I will help you out
Odin________ If you need help follow the odin guid here
ML1
Saferoot yes its in the s4 forum but it works perfect on the s3
Safestrap read the op from top to bottom
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oh and when you odin to ml1 your internal data will be formatted so make sure you backup anything you want saved.
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well thanks for the links lol. i downloaded all those files. now can you give me a step by step on how to do it or direct me to the thread that shows me how please!
pitbullmommy45245 said:
well thanks for the links lol. i downloaded all those files. now can you give me a step by step on how to do it or direct me to the thread that shows me how please!
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It's from another site, but here is a great visual guide for using ODIN:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/dr...odin-package-last-resort-fix.html#post1007773
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It's from another site, but here is a great visual guide for using ODIN:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/dr...odin-package-last-resort-fix.html#post1007773
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when i try to use odin it says no binary! and then it stops.
pitbullmommy45245 said:
when i try to use odin it says no binary! and then it stops.
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You extracted the ml1 tar from the 7zip compressed file right?
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You extracted the ml1 tar from the 7zip compressed file right?
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yes i did.
I have been reading these two threads closely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...ide-nexus-5-how-to-unlock-bootloader-t2507905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/faq-to-android-read-post-root-t2508292
But one thing I am yet to understand, is how do you go about flashing a baseband? What I've learned so far, is not to rely on toolkits. I will follow the directions from the first link, which seem pretty straightforward.
I downloaded the factory image "KOT49H" which corresponds with the baseband I want to flash, that being from 4.4.2. If I want to flash the baseband only, would the command be something like this?
fastboot flash radio radio-hammerheadx.x.x.x.x.x.x..img
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I have been reading these two threads closely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...ide-nexus-5-how-to-unlock-bootloader-t2507905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/faq-to-android-read-post-root-t2508292
But one thing I am yet to understand, is how do you go about flashing a baseband? What I've learned so far, is not to rely on toolkits. I will follow the directions from the first link, which seem pretty straightforward.
I downloaded the factory image "KOT49H" which corresponds with the baseband I want to flash, that being from 4.4.2. If I want to flash the baseband only, would the command be something like this?
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almost all the radios are available in zip format(check the xda thread for the zips. all you do is download one, then go into your custom recovery and flash it there. it takes seconds, then boot up after that. btw, radio and baseband is the same thing in this conversation.
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darksome123 said:
I have been reading these two threads closely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...ide-nexus-5-how-to-unlock-bootloader-t2507905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/faq-to-android-read-post-root-t2508292
But one thing I am yet to understand, is how do you go about flashing a baseband? What I've learned so far, is not to rely on toolkits. I will follow the directions from the first link, which seem pretty straightforward.
I downloaded the factory image "KOT49H" which corresponds with the baseband I want to flash, that being from 4.4.2. If I want to flash the baseband only, would the command be something like this?
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if you are using fastboot to flash a radio then that is the correct command. but, as i said, its much easier to download a zipped up version and flash in recovery.
darksome123 said:
I have been reading these two threads closely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...ide-nexus-5-how-to-unlock-bootloader-t2507905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/faq-to-android-read-post-root-t2508292
But one thing I am yet to understand, is how do you go about flashing a baseband? What I've learned so far, is not to rely on toolkits. I will follow the directions from the first link, which seem pretty straightforward.
I downloaded the factory image "KOT49H" which corresponds with the baseband I want to flash, that being from 4.4.2. If I want to flash the baseband only, would the command be something like this?
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yes that's how it would look like if you want to flash a .img radio file via fastboot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...t/modem-nexus-5-flashable-modems-efs-t2514095
or just download the radio zip you want and flash in recovery,
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almost all the radios are available in zip format(check the xda thread for the zips. all you do is download one, then go into your custom recovery and flash it there. it takes seconds, then boot up after that. btw, radio and baseband is the same thing in this conversation.
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if you are using fastboot to flash a radio then that is the correct command. but, as i said, its much easier to download a zipped up version and flash in recovery.
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That was the other question I had. So simply download the zipped file to my phone and flash it in recovery mode, right?
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That was the other question I had. So simply download the zipped file to my phone and flash it in recovery mode, right?
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right, that easy. if you want to be safe, make a backup in recovery before flashing. that way if the new radio gives you issues, all you have to do is restore the backup.
I've never flashed anything, but have been doing my research for the last few months. Everything seems pretty easy to follow. I guess the coward in me never really gave it a chance. I'll give it a go and do a follow up on the results.
Thank you so much for the help.
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I've never flashed anything, but have been doing my research for the last few months. Everything seems pretty easy to follow. I guess the coward in me never really gave it a chance. I'll give it a go and do a follow up on the results.
Thank you so much for the help.
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are you not happy with your current radio? i do it occasionally, to check if another radio is better. if so, ill keep it, if not, ill flash to the previous radio i had. but anything you flash, if you make a backup in recovery first, itll save what you had before flashing, rom as well. when i first rooted ages ago(g1), it also took me month of reading before doing anything. but once familiar with it, it doesnt take any thought anymore, and ive been helping others with it here on xda since.
After the update from 4.4.2 to 4.2.3 and then to 4.4.4...reception kept getting worse. And then there was the battery issue, I used to be able to keep a charge for over 24 hours...now it doesn't last more than 5 hours. Some individuals from another forum have attributed it to the baseband. Several of them went back to the 4.4.2 version and say the battery issue is gone. I've tried everything and this seems like the last resort.
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After the update from 4.4.2 to 4.2.3 and then to 4.4.4...reception kept getting worse. And then there was the battery issue, I used to be able to keep a charge for over 24 hours...now it doesn't last more than 5 hours. Some individuals from another forum have attributed it to the baseband. Several of them went back to the 4.4.2 version and say the battery issue is gone. I've tried everything and this seems like the last resort.
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the radio that came with L gave me issues, the radio before that worked fine, so i went back to that. it would all depend on your location, in how well they work for you.
OK so on an unrelated note, now that I'm unlocked what does this mean now that Android Lollipop is about to be released? How will an OTA update affect my phone? The modifications I've made so far is installed CWM recovery and SuperSU, reverted baseband to previous 4.4.2 version, and changed the kernel to Franco Kernel. All other system apps are intact.
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OK so on an unrelated note, now that I'm unlocked what does this mean now that Android Lollipop is about to be released? How will an OTA update affect my phone? The modifications I've made so far is installed CWM recovery and SuperSU, reverted baseband to previous 4.4.2 version, and changed the kernel to Franco Kernel. All other system apps are intact.
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You won't get OTA because you're too modified. But now you're rooted, you owe it to yourself to learn how to manage your modified phone. OTA is the worst way to update in your situation.
Learn about flashing ROMs. All info and guides are in my signature
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OK so on an unrelated note, now that I'm unlocked what does this mean now that Android Lollipop is about to be released? How will an OTA update affect my phone? The modifications I've made so far is installed CWM recovery and SuperSU, reverted baseband to previous 4.4.2 version, and changed the kernel to Franco Kernel. All other system apps are intact.
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you cant get a flashable ota. you might get an ota, but it wont flash. only the original rom with all of its files intact can receive and apply an ota. a day or two after source is released, youll be able to flash a rooted version. or you can flash the factory img and reroot.
I think I may write a thread about this.
So it sounds like a rooted version would be the easiest thing for me then. Now, it won't delete all my data will it? As in a typical OTA update all the data remains intact. Any suggestions as to where I should be looking for a rooted versiob when it is released?
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So it sounds like a rooted version would be the easiest thing for me then. Now, it won't delete all my data will it? As in a typical OTA update all the data remains intact. Any suggestions as to where I should be looking for a rooted versiob when it is released?
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I'm positive you'll have to do a full wipe to flash the 5.0 rom. So, yes you'll lose your data. You could try just flashing the system.img and boot.img from 4.4.4 then taking the ota. But back up everything off your device. 5.0 is a different animal and most likely will require a full wipe before working correctly.
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Say I were to reinstall the previous baseband along with the stock kernel, I still have stock android running, couldn't I just flash the ROM through fastboot or through CWM?
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Say I were to reinstall the previous baseband along with the stock kernel, I still have stock android running, couldn't I just flash the ROM through fastboot or through CWM?
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Could you expand on your question please?
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Could you expand on your question please?
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I have stock Android 4.4.4, but the baseband from 4.4.2 along with Franco Kernel. If I were to revert these to the originals found in 4.4.4, would it be enough to fastboot a rooted version of Lollipop, without running into trouble? As I understand it, even if I were to revert these I still wouldn't be able to get OTA because of CWM recovery. Am I correct?
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I have stock Android 4.4.4, but the baseband from 4.4.2 along with Franco Kernel. If I were to revert these to the originals found in 4.4.4, would it be enough to fastboot a rooted version of Lollipop, without running into trouble? As I understand it, even if I were to revert these I still wouldn't be able to get OTA because of CWM recovery. Am I correct?
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You wouldn't need to revert to fastboot. Fastboot will replace these so it doesn't care what's there now.
Have a read of the thread in my signature about rooted users updating.
nice time for androidfilehost to be unreachable... i did post the firmware up. RUU and OTApkg.zip are ready for upload.
FYI guys/gals.. there's a new hboot on this one too.
Edit..uploading now
I am unlocked and rooted but the download from verizon automatically started. It did nothing after it was done downloading. I dont know what to expect of this?? I am on viper rom 2.5.
Here's the link folks
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95747613655049317
Only for stock recovery and untouched system users
dottat said:
Here's the link folks
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95747613655049317
Only for stock recovery and untouched system users
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Hey dottat what is the correct directory that the file gets saved to on the phone?
lucky_strike33 said:
I am unlocked and rooted but the download from verizon automatically started. It did nothing after it was done downloading. I dont know what to expect of this?? I am on viper rom 2.5.
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Won't flash if you have custom recovery or modified system.
krazie1 said:
Hey dottat what is the correct directory that the file gets saved to on the phone?
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/cache/fumo
dottat said:
Won't flash if you have custom recovery or modified system.
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Thank you!
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Is there a full change log somewhere?
all good here, just reflashed @dottats RUU and updated the organic way. SOFF is good, it even says official in the software status in HBOOT
hboot- 3.19.0.0000
radio- 1.09.20.0926
dsp - v46.2.2-00564-m8974_F0.0811
os- 3.28.605.4
dottat said:
nice time for androidfilehost to be unreachable... i did post the firmware up. RUU and OTApkg.zip are ready for upload.
FYI guys/gals.. there's a new hboot on this one too.
Edit..uploading now
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Ready for that RUU.... It saved me 1,000 million times...
JB_Da_Greatest said:
Ready for that RUU.... It saved me 1,000 million times...
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You can just use the 4.4.3 ruu and do the OTA, then your firmware is done all in 1 shot
can someone upload a 4.4.4 system dump? or point me to one if someone has already? thanks!
I have looked around and found all kinds of different answers so can someone here help me out a bit?
I got the phone when it first came out, have S-OFF, root, TWRP custom recovery but have version 4.4.2 still installed with everything being left pretty much stock. I would prefer to keep things pretty much stock so what would I need to do to update to 4.4.4? Do I need to get 4.4.3 first? Do I need to flash stock recovery first before doing anything? Anything with firmware or radios?
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I have looked around and found all kinds of different answers so can someone here help me out a bit?
I got the phone when it first came out, have S-OFF, root, TWRP custom recovery but have version 4.4.2 still installed with everything being left pretty much stock. I would prefer to keep things pretty much stock so what would I need to do to update to 4.4.4? Do I need to get 4.4.3 first? Do I need to flash stock recovery first before doing anything? Anything with firmware or radios?
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well, this is my idea for you
1. Flash the stock 4.4.2 recovery over the TWRP, then just do the OTA's
aer0zer0 said:
well, this is my idea for you
1. Flash the stock 4.4.2 recovery over the TWRP, then just do the OTA's
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Reasonable enough, sorry if this is another dumb question but I havent been paying much attention to these boards since I rooted, I see that recent phones require Sunshine to root, is that because of the firewater method being patched via a software update (4.4.3?) or some other manufacturer change that I shouldnt be concerned with if the old root method already works for me?
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You can just use the 4.4.3 ruu and do the OTA, then your firmware is done all in 1 shot
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I already updated... I was just saying for safe keeping just in case I get in some unforseen trouble.
Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723159 and just flash the 4.4.3 with not boot img. YOu dont need to flash the recovery to accept ota's. YOu can just flash this and you will get the updated radios and h boot.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723159
Downloaded OTA and updated, they added file manager and flashlight back ~!
JB_Da_Greatest said:
I already updated... I was just saying for safe keeping just in case I get in some unforseen trouble.
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yup, its saved a billion times too
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lchupacabras said:
Downloaded OTA and updated, they added file manager and flashlight back ~!
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i know, right that was such an awesome surprise
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Resputan said:
Reasonable enough, sorry if this is another dumb question but I havent been paying much attention to these boards since I rooted, I see that recent phones require Sunshine to root, is that because of the firewater method being patched via a software update (4.4.3?) or some other manufacturer change that I shouldnt be concerned with if the old root method already works for me?
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nope, if your already SOFF, you will stay SOFF. might break your root, but all you need to do is reinstall supersu when you put twrp back on
dottat said:
nice time for androidfilehost to be unreachable... i did post the firmware up. RUU and OTApkg.zip are ready for upload.
FYI guys/gals.. there's a new hboot on this one too.
Edit..uploading now
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Hi dootat, Hope you remember me. You help me restore my mobile Via team viewer. Thanks for the RUU i am trying to flash but nothing going. Copy zip to SD card rename to 0p6bimg.zip and hit Hboot. i can see it installing and then ask for reboot but when check in mobile still 4.4.3. Any help?
thanks
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Hi! My question is lame, i know.. But here it goes anyway, i couldn't find a simple and direct answer..
Is less than a week that i have this phone, and i've been reading a lot of guides of how to rollback to cm11s.. the thing is i've flashed the latest CM12S signed zip ota through CM Recovery, everything is fine as i'm testing it right now..
My question is: if i want to go back to CM11S (in the case that i don't like CM12S or have some bugs), can i just wipe data / factory reset and cache in CM Recovery, and then flash the cm11s signed zip?
I haven't rooted or unlocked bootloader, is it relatively easy from what i read around here.. but i wondered if i had to go through all those steps (unlock bootloader, custom recovery, and then flash) or just doing the steps mentioned before will work just fine..
Is it better to fastboot flash or through custom recovery is fine also?
Thanks in advance!
PD: I'm also asking what do you think about some other 5.1.1 Lollipop ROM, custom kernel, etc.. I'm kind of a flashaholic and i would be able to install the custom recovery if would be really worth it
PD2: sorry for the bad english, i'm from argentina
cesarp3791 said:
Hi! My question is lame, i know.. But here it goes anyway, i couldn't find a simple and direct answer..
Is less than a week that i have this phone, and i've been reading a lot of guides of how to rollback to cm11s.. the thing is i've flashed the latest CM12S signed zip ota through CM Recovery, everything is fine as i'm testing it right now..
My question is: if i want to go back to CM11S (in the case that i don't like CM12S or have some bugs), can i just wipe data / factory reset and cache in CM Recovery, and then flash the cm11s signed zip?
I haven't rooted or unlocked bootloader, is it relatively easy from what i read around here.. but i wondered if i had to go through all those steps (unlock bootloader, custom recovery, and then flash) or just doing the steps mentioned before will work just fine..
Is it better to fastboot flash or through custom recovery is fine also?
Thanks in advance!
PD: I'm also asking what do you think about some other 5.1.1 Lollipop ROM, custom kernel, etc.. I'm kind of a flashaholic and i would be able to install the custom recovery if would be really worth it
PD2: sorry for the bad english, i'm from argentina
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Just unlock your bootloader now, the longer you leave it the more difficult it'll be to backup your internal storage beforehand. You should really have it unlocked anyway as insurance against anything going wrong with your phone. Once you have unlocked it you can flash TWRP recovery, then the correct procedure to go back to CM11S would be to perform a full wipe (system, data, cache, dalvik cache) and then just flash the zip. As far as custom ROMs for this device go, there are many excellent options to choose from that offer extra customisation that you won't find on the stock ROM.
Don't we have to flash the firmware prior to flashing back to CM11s to prevent a hardbrick? I'm looking into doing this as well, so I'm just asking for my own clarity.
uansari1 said:
Don't we have to flash the firmware prior to flashing back to CM11s to prevent a hardbrick? I'm looking into doing this as well, so I'm just asking for my own clarity.
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The firmware is contained in the official zip.
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The firmware is contained in the official zip.
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Thanks! Stupid question, but can you please link me to the official zip? I already have TWRP installed, so it would be nice to revert sooner than later.
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Thanks! Stupid question, but can you please link me to the official zip? I already have TWRP installed, so it would be nice to revert sooner than later.
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You'll find them all here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2906746
Thanks!
Thank you both, i believe that this week i'll have some time and unlock the bootloader and flashing the TWRP recovery right away.. Then i'll see which ROM suits my use (i'm looking to battery friendly and high screen on time, will see the forums accordingly) and start the journey on this beautiful and well supported device
Also, thanks for the clarification of the modems.. Will be looking after that and make sure not to miss that step if required :good:
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Thank you both, i believe that this week i'll have some time and unlock the bootloader and flashing the TWRP recovery right away.. Then i'll see which ROM suits my use (i'm looking to battery friendly and high screen on time, will see the forums accordingly) and start the journey on this beautiful and well supported device
Also, thanks for the clarification of the modems.. Will be looking after that and make sure not to miss that step if required :good:
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Once you've flashed the ROM, please do share your results. I am still unsure if reverting from a Lollipop ROM to CM11S will cause issues with the radio and/or a softbrick of the device, as I've read that this "can" happen.
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Once you've flashed the ROM, please do share your results. I am still unsure if reverting from a Lollipop ROM to CM11S will cause issues with the radio and/or a softbrick of the device, as I've read that this "can" happen.
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Reverting from Lollipop to KitKat won't brick your device, whoever said that is wrong, and would have caused a brick because they didn't know what they were doing. You do need to make sure you flash a KitKat modem though, otherwise you'll have issues with the prox sensor.
Heisenberg said:
Reverting from Lollipop to KitKat won't brick your device, whoever said that is wrong, and would have caused a brick because they didn't know what they were doing. You do need to make sure you flash a KitKat modem though, otherwise you'll have issues with the prox sensor.
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Thanks Timaaa...last question, I'm downloading the latest modem from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-stock-rooted-xnph05q-t3027033.
Is this the correct flashable modem file to use, or do you recommend another for XNPH05Q?
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Thanks Timaaa...last question, I'm downloading the latest modem from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-stock-rooted-xnph05q-t3027033.
Is this the correct flashable modem file to use, or do you recommend another for XNPH05Q?
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That modem should be fine.