[Q] Lost Root with 4.4.2, How to Reset Flash Count - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

I'm currently using the 4.4.2 Gummy Rom and I somehow lost my root but I still have my TWRP recovery. I was going to go back to stock unrooted and use the Casual toolkit to get back to where I was, but my flash count is tipped.
I feel like I'm in a loop because I can't root on 4.4 and because I lost my root I can't use Triangle Away to fix my flash count, but I feel like I'm missing something. Is there anyway I can get my root back to use Triangle Away?
Thanks, any help is appreciated.

NVijapura said:
I'm currently using the 4.4.2 Gummy Rom and I somehow lost my root but I still have my TWRP recovery. I was going to go back to stock unrooted and use the Casual toolkit to get back to where I was, but my flash count is tipped.
I feel like I'm in a loop because I can't root on 4.4 and because I lost my root I can't use Triangle Away to fix my flash count, but I feel like I'm missing something. Is there anyway I can get my root back to use Triangle Away?
Thanks, any help is appreciated.
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Have to use twrp to flash SuperSU 1.86zip (latest version)?

Tap build number about ten times to enable Developer Options, go into Developer Options, and set root access to "Apps and ADB."
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buhohitr said:
Have to use twrp to flash SuperSU 1.86zip (latest version)?
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SlimSnoopOS said:
Tap build number about ten times to enable Developer Options, go into Developer Options, and set root access to "Apps and ADB."
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I don't see that option?
And I thought I couldn't flash SuperSU v1.89 if I didn't have root?

NVijapura said:
I don't see that option?
And I thought I couldn't flash SuperSU v1.89 if I didn't have root?
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You don't need root to flash SuperSu in twrp, that's how you originally obtained root.

buhohitr said:
You don't need root to flash SuperSu in twrp, that's how you originally obtained root.
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Thank you for your help, but according to the SuperSu thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053), the second line stats how I need root access for this.

NVijapura said:
Thank you for your help, but according to the SuperSu thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053), the second line stats how I need root access for this.
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Just to clairify are you still on gummy rom or are you on stock?

Mtsprite said:
Just to clairify are you still on gummy rom or are you on stock?
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I am on gummy rom with a KT kernel.

NVijapura said:
I am on gummy rom with a KT kernel.
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Just install SuperSu from the play store and update the binary. Its not that you lost root, its just gummy does not come with a superuser app installed. I had this same problem too.

Mtsprite said:
Just install SuperSu from the play store and update the binary. Its not that you lost root, its just gummy does not come with a superuser app installed. I had this same problem too.
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When I do that, it keeps saying that installation failed and to try reboot.
Also, what you are saying is that technically I can move to another rom and I will have root?

NVijapura said:
When I do that, it keeps saying that installation failed and to try reboot.
Also, what you are saying is that technically I can move to another rom and I will have root?
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yes, if you flash a pre-rooted rom you would have root.

Mtsprite said:
Just install SuperSu from the play store and update the binary. Its not that you lost root, its just gummy does not come with a superuser app installed. I had this same problem too.
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buhohitr said:
yes, if you flash a pre-rooted rom you would have root.
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Got it! thanks guys!

Related

2.3.6 update question

I know if I update i'll lose my root but what i'm not sure of is whether I'll lose my apps and game progress/saves etc.
Does anyone know?
Thanks
You won't lose any data or game progresses.
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Just got the OTA today, installed and running....I didn't lose the root. Everything else stays the same.
vennstrom said:
Just got the OTA today, installed and running....I didn't lose the root. Everything else stays the same.
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Really? When I updated from 2.3.2 to 2.3.4 I lost root so I assumed this would occur again (for the OTA update).
vennstrom said:
Just got the OTA today, installed and running....I didn't lose the root. Everything else stays the same.
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You lost root. You need to flash superuser again.
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yup...my bad, didn't check properly. I assumed it was not just by looking at superuser without trying.
Update: Rooted again now ^_^
vennstrom said:
yup...my bad, didn't check properly. I assumed it was not just by looking at superuser without trying.
Update: Rooted again now ^_^
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How did you rooted again? Just flash the su.zip?
Hey guys I have a question.
I received my ota update today. It says that it's downloaded and ready to install on reboot. However I want to save the update prior to this. Where is it located on the phone? Reason being that I have a custom kernel installed and I want to 1) revert to my stock 2.3.4 nand backup 2) install 2.3.6 update 3) root again 4) make a stock 2.3.6 nand backup 5) install custom kernel again and see if it works
I already tried searching with astro on / for update,aosp, 2.3.6 but so far no hits..
alexxdj said:
How did you rooted again? Just flash the su.zip?
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So I can DL the official OTA update and just flash the su.zip? Where to I download the appropriate su.zip file?
dccxviii said:
So I can DL the official OTA update and just flash the su.zip? Where to I download the appropriate su.zip file?
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alexxdj said:
How did you rooted again? Just flash the su.zip?
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Just flash the su from CWR
I got it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17033340&postcount=819
Version 3 in the market is not stable according to some user

SuperSU needs to update binary

Just updated my Nexus 5 using the OTA thread that went through fine,
I then proceeded to update SuperSU using the following link: http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu which was the update v1.99r3.
Using TWRP I flashed this and root is working for most apps i have tested: titanium, adblock, root explorer. So root is back.
However whenever I load up SuperSU I keep getting the following message: "The SU binary needs to be updated. Continue?"
So of course I have done this and let it use TWRP to flash. Let the phone boot up and upgrade the app as it needed. However on next load up of the app it asks to do the same yet again.
I feel as though I'm forgetting something as it's been a while since I've done this. ( use to live on flashing when i had my SII)
My Nexus is Stock ROM. CF-Auto Rooted. TWRP Recovery. Nothing else is modified.
Help would be appreciated, even though I don't go into supersu all that often anyways.
Cheers all.
What if you upgrade it using the "normal" method?
If I do a normal install i get the following:
Installation failed!
Please reboot and try again.
brichardson1991 said:
If I do a normal install i get the following:
Installation failed!
Please reboot and try again.
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That message is usually indicative of not having root in the first place. What if you flash it via TWRP then do it normally? Could TWRP be removing it with its "Fix root" option?
What about other recoveries? Do they allow root to stay?
rootSU said:
That message is usually indicative of not having root in the first place. What if you flash it via TWRP then do it normally? Could TWRP be removing it with its "Fix root" option?
What about other recoveries? Do they allow root to stay?
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How odd like I said my apps are all receiving their root permissions...
What file would we be talking about flashing? The Temp one SuperSU makes to flash when you click install via TWPR?
I don't have any other recoveries on my phone, so I wouldn't know about that last option.
brichardson1991 said:
How odd like I said my apps are all receiving their root permissions...
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Are they though? SuperSU grants permissions but if the binary is not present, its irrelevant. Can you actually do root things with the root apps that have the permissions?
Have you tried other binary download?
brichardson1991 said:
What file would we be talking about flashing? The Temp one SuperSU makes to flash when you click install via TWPR?
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In SuperSU, do the TWRP flash install of the binary and reboot, then try the "normal" install immediately after
brichardson1991 said:
I don't have any other recoveries on my phone, so I wouldn't know about that last option.
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Theres a link in my signature to Philz recovery. In the settings is a root option, so the recovery itself can root without flashing any zips. Maybe try that if downloading an older flashable zip or the above hasnt worked.
rootSU said:
Are they though? SuperSU grants permissions but if the binary is not present, its irrelevant. Can you actually do root things with the root apps that have the permissions?
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It does seem that way Titanium has backed up an app just now, adblock has updated and Nova is hiding the time on the first screen.
rootSU said:
Have you tried other binary download?
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No, I shall give a older one a try.. Tried 1.97 as well and to no luck.....
rootSU said:
In SuperSU, do the TWRP flash install of the binary and reboot, then try the "normal" install immediately after
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This failed to do anything just got the install failed again.
rootSU said:
Theres a link in my signature to Philz recovery. In the settings is a root option, so the recovery itself can root without flashing any zips. Maybe try that if downloading an older flashable zip or the above hasnt worked.
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I assume this would override TWRP recovery?
brichardson1991 said:
I assume this would override TWRP recovery?
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Yes it would. You can always flash back to twrp afterwards
rootSU said:
Yes it would. You can always flash back to twrp afterwards
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Well considering that worked and I now can get into SuperSU I think I will stick with Philz. Even if I paid for the TWRP app
brichardson1991 said:
Well considering that worked and I now can get into SuperSU I think I will stick with Philz. Even if I paid for the TWRP app
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Good news. The latest version of Philz, s it is CWM based - uses the latest Cyanogen sources to build. I update the CM sources everytime I build Philz so hopefully there should be fewer issues when new stuff comes out.

OTA Updates, Keep Root?

I just got the 4.4.4 OTA update and appear to have lost root, i'm sure i can re root again when i get home.
However i'm wondering what people recommend in keeping root when taking an OTA update.
Thanks for any advice.
InsaneNutter said:
I just got the 4.4.4 OTA update and appear to have lost root, i'm sure i can re root again when i get home.
However i'm wondering what people recommend in keeping root when taking an OTA update.
Thanks for any advice.
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SuperSU has a "survival" mode you can check off. It basically tries to keep root after an update. Luckily its easy enough to re-root the One+.
theorioles33 said:
SuperSU has a "survival" mode you can check off. It basically tries to keep root after an update. Luckily its easy enough to re-root the One+.
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Thanks for the tip, I purchased SuperSU Pro and enabled the feature. As you say though easily enough to re root if you have access to a PC.
InsaneNutter said:
Thanks for the tip, I purchased SuperSU Pro and enabled the feature. As you say though easily enough to re root if you have access to a PC.
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Its easy to re-root from your phone too, just flash SuperSU in recovery.
InsaneNutter said:
Thanks for the tip, I purchased SuperSU Pro and enabled the feature. As you say though easily enough to re root if you have access to a PC.
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You're welcome!
zephiK said:
Its easy to re-root from your phone too, just flash SuperSU in recovery.
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+1 (no pun intended Lol)
InsaneNutter said:
Thanks for the tip, I purchased SuperSU Pro and enabled the feature. As you say though easily enough to re root if you have access to a PC.
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You don't need a pc at all, you boot back into recovery after the update and flash your SuperSU zip.
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timmaaa said:
You don't need a pc at all, you boot back into recovery after the update and flash your SuperSU zip.
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Could you please tell where to find the SupetSU zip? Thanks in advance.
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HasseY said:
Could you please tell where to find the SupetSU zip? Thanks in advance.
Send with my OPO using Tapatalk
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I'm guessing you used a toolkit to unlock and root, right? If you haven't done it already, download SuperSU from here:
http://download.chainfire.eu/452/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.02.zip
Then you can flash it using the install menu in TWRP recovery.
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theorioles33 said:
SuperSU has a "survival" mode you can check off. It basically tries to keep root after an update. Luckily its easy enough to re-root the One+.
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Do you have tried it successully?
TazZHD said:
Do you have tried it successully?
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Of course it works. Also guys TWRP will try and reroot your phone a well after a flash if it detects you lost root. Not for nothing but some of you need to do more reading before you street messing with your phones and leave them toolkits alone.
This is not meant to be disrespectful or directed at anyone in general but informative.. Read Read Read
@playya alright mate got my one plus one now. unlocked bootloader installed twrp and flashed super su. disabled update cm recovery on update. then did update from 22r - 25r then did 25r - 30O and obviously 30O - 33r I didn't realise that the update cm recovery would not stick after each update. so ive now tried to reflash twrp but command line says writing recovery ok and finished but checked on phone and its not there? any ideas do I need to unlock bootloader again which I doubt. but not sure if flashing update would also relock?? cheers
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nathlynn22 said:
@playya alright mate got my one plus one now. unlocked bootloader installed twrp and flashed super su. disabled update cm recovery on update. then did update from 22r - 25r then did 25r - 30O and obviously 30O - 33r I didn't realise that the update cm recovery would not stick after each update. so ive now tried to reflash twrp but command line says writing recovery ok and finished but checked on phone and its not there? any ideas do I need to unlock bootloader again which I doubt. but not sure if flashing update would also relock?? cheers
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lol ignore me something simple haha
Heisenberg said:
I'm guessing you used a toolkit to unlock and root, right? If you haven't done it already, download SuperSU from here:
http://download.chainfire.eu/452/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.02.zip
Then you can flash it using the install menu in TWRP recovery.
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I've been told that Oreo OTA will replace the recovery and get rid of root. Is this true?
BearOfXDA said:
I've been told that Oreo OTA will replace the recovery and get rid of root. Is this true?
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Wooot?!!!
BearOfXDA said:
I've been told that Oreo OTA will replace the recovery and get rid of root. Is this true?
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If you have root and a custom recovery you shouldn't be taking an OTA in the first place.

How to update to 33R?

I have downloaded the 33R OTA on my computer. I'm using TWRP. Can someone please give me steps to update? Thank you.
You put the zip onto your phone and then boot into TWRP and then flash it.
Or you can go boot into TWRP and adb sideload it.
The dragging zip onto the phone is probably easier for you.
Thank you!
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Did installing through TWRP break root for you? It appears to have broken mine.
TheAtheistReverend said:
Did installing through TWRP break root for you? It appears to have broken mine.
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If it did, boot back into TWRP and flash SuperSU 2.02 and you'll have root again.
TheAtheistReverend said:
Did installing through TWRP break root for you? It appears to have broken mine.
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Yes it did break root. At the end of the flash, you will be prompted to install SuperSU again. When the phone reboots, go back to your App Drawer and look for SuperSU installer. Press it and install. You regain root.
Does anyone know if it is safe to use franco.kernel r14 after update to 33R? Thanks
zephiK said:
If it did, boot back into TWRP and flash SuperSU 2.02 and you'll have root again.
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skyhonor said:
Yes it did break root. At the end of the flash, you will be prompted to install SuperSU again. When the phone reboots, go back to your App Drawer and look for SuperSU installer. Press it and install. You regain root.
Does anyone know if it is safe to use franco.kernel r14 after update to 33R? Thanks
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Did work :victory:
Thanks!
skyhonor said:
Yes it did break root. At the end of the flash, you will be prompted to install SuperSU again. When the phone reboots, go back to your App Drawer and look for SuperSU installer. Press it and install. You regain root.
Does anyone know if it is safe to use franco.kernel r14 after update to 33R? Thanks
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Yup its safe, r13 was safe to boot 33R as well but you might as well get r14. The fixes in r14 are worth having.
zephiK said:
Yup its safe, r13 was safe to boot 33R as well but you might as well get r14. The fixes in r14 are worth having.
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Thank you so much!
zephiK said:
Yup its safe, r13 was safe to boot 33R as well but you might as well get r14. The fixes in r14 are worth having.
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What are the fixes?
I'm either blind or stupid, can't find it...
MasterThiefGarrett said:
What are the fixes?
I'm either blind or stupid, can't find it...
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http://kernels.franco-lnx.net/OnePlusOne/4.4/appfiles/changelog.xml

Whenever I try to update to v10j via OTA, it gives me an error. I am not rooted (yet)

Why would it be doing this? I already removed root via the SuperSU app permanently. What could be causing the error?
Bebout said:
Why would it be doing this? I already removed root via the SuperSU app permanently. What could be causing the error?
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You might have a system app removed or missing
Or maybe you have done something with the build prop as well if thats messed with that will also throw an error out.
If you read closely it should tell you what the error is
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You might have a system app removed or missing
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I really hope not. How do I go about finding out if I'm missing a system app? I've already done a factory reset along with unrooting via SuperSU's app.
Bebout said:
I really hope not. How do I go about finding out if I'm missing a system app? I've already done a factory reset along with unrooting via SuperSU's app.
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It should tell you the error after you try flashing the ota you may have to use the .kdz method
xxbabiboi228xx said:
It should tell you the error after you try flashing the ota you may have to use the .kdz method
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I don't have TWRP installed, either. I've got stock recovery and stock everything. I was going to remove root so I could update and then re-root for v10j and then install the new version of TWRP.
Bebout said:
I don't have TWRP installed, either. I've got stock recovery and stock everything. I was going to remove root so I could update and then re-root for v10j and then install the new version of TWRP.[/QUOTE
Your telling me you removed root ? But you never had twrp as your recovery ?
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Bebout said:
I don't have TWRP installed, either. I've got stock recovery and stock everything. I was going to remove root so I could update and then re-root for v10j and then install the new version of TWRP.
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Your telling me you removed root ? But you never had twrp as your recovery ?
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I fixed it. I rooted the device and flashed the v10i recovery image for TWRP that I found and I'm now going to update to v10j via the kdz, as you suggested. Thank you.
Bebout said:
I fixed it. I rooted the device and flashed the v10i recovery image for TWRP that I found and I'm now going to update to v10j via the kdz, as you suggested. Thank you.
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No problem glad i could assist u in your problem
Why not get TWRP again and flash @GameTheory's v10j pre-rooted stock rom, it's not like you're going to see anything special with that update it's the last one before MM:
http://androidcreations.weebly.com/flashable-update-zip.html
Bebout said:
Why would it be doing this? I already removed root via the SuperSU app permanently. What could be causing the error?
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well even if you Remove root via SuperSU that doesn't mean your SYSTEM is unmodified, the only way to get back to FULL Unmod. software is by following my steps of restoring back to stock, here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/rom-lg-g-stylo-h631-ms631-v10j-stock-t3211563
P.S. You need to have TWRP for this so Re-Root and Re-Flash TWRP and follow steps

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