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Rooting + Ota updates

Hey guys I will get my phone this week and I was wondering what these OTA updates are?
When I press update in the options of oneplus, is that it?
I wanna root my phone but I heard OTA updates might not be available.
So, are they available or not? Should I root the phone? I really need it but I don't wanna miss any oficial updates.
I hope I don't lose my root later or something!

OTA updates are Over The Air Updates, and usually they include bug fixes, new functionalities or even a new version of android.
I red in this forum that rooting the OPO does not void the warranty and the phone continues to perform the OTA updates.
Can anyone confirm?

If you change the recovery you may lose the ability to receive the ota updates. But, you're in luck, you can boot into a custom recovery and flash the zip file to gain root access without installing the recovery on the phone itself.
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A couple tutorials floating around and I believe stickied explain this.

cyldman said:
Hey guys I will get my phone this week and I was wondering what these OTA updates are?
When I press update in the options of oneplus, is that it?
I wanna root my phone but I heard OTA updates might not be available.
So, are they available or not? Should I root the phone? I really need it but I don't wanna miss any oficial updates.
I hope I don't lose my root later or something!
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if you root the phone you can flash the updated file or any file for that matter. So to not root your phone to update it to the latest rom to then root your phone and put something completely different on it makes no sense.
Now if you are rooting just to keep stock and root - again you can root and flash stock rom from this forum.. Win Win for you

playya said:
if you root the phone you can flash the updated file or any file for that matter. So to not root your phone to update it to the latest rom to then root your phone and put something completely different on it makes no sense.
Now if you are rooting just to keep stock and root - again you can root and flash stock rom from this forum.. Win Win for you
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Hi,
I want some clarity on how OTA is tied with recovery ? If I put TWRP recovery will I loose the ability for OTA?
Thanks

zaibrockstar said:
Hi,
I want some clarity on how OTA is tied with recovery ? If I put TWRP recovery will I loose the ability for OTA?
Thanks
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From my understanding not with 1+1 but OTA's are generally flashed via stock recovery and not custom ones. Question - what was your other android phone?

playya said:
From my understanding not with 1+1 but OTA's are generally flashed via stock recovery and not custom ones. Question - what was your other android phone?
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I had Nexus 4, Now I am using Nexus 5. I bought OPO to gift to my Dad and wanted to use adfree or adaway and give the phone as it is. But for them to work I need to root access. My understanding is once you put a unlock boot loader and have TWRP, then root it. I will loose OTA. I will not be able to flash the phone every time there is an update as he lives in a different country and I cant travel quite often.
Thanks

zaibrockstar said:
I had Nexus 4, Now I am using Nexus 5. I bought OPO to gift to my Dad and wanted to use adfree or adaway and give the phone as it is. But for them to work I need to root access. My understanding is once you put a unlock boot loader and have TWRP, then root it. I will loose OTA. I will not be able to flash the phone every time there is an update as he lives in a different country and I cant travel quite often.
Thanks
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Then I would go to the thread in general that shows you how to root your phone without unlocking bootloader and use that method . http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/root-unlocking-bootloader-t2820628

playya said:
Then I would go to the thread in general that shows you how to root your phone without unlocking bootloader and use that method . http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/root-unlocking-bootloader-t2820628
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Thanks for the info. I had read this, but was not clear.
Instead just run "fastboot boot recovery.img" and flash the supersu zip from there.
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What I have understood is we are just booting into default recovery and flashing the su binary. Is that correct ?
I have one risk in such case. I will not have an Nandriod Backup with default recovery.
Thanks

zaibrockstar said:
Thanks for the info. I had read this, but was not clear.
What I have understood is we are just booting into default recovery and flashing the su binary. Is that correct ?
I have one risk in such case. I will not have an Nandriod Backup with default recovery.
Thanks
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Stock recovery can always be reflashed and you follow the directions as posted to the tee and yes you boot into recovery flash su binary and thats it. To my understanding you will be flashing twrp but instead of it sticking it just flashes for that session so that you can flash the su binary.
I would go to that thread and ask in there directly for those that have done it or google it. This is of course if that is the route you would like to take

I have received the ota & updated on twrp.No problems
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cyldman said:
Hey guys I will get my phone this week and I was wondering what these OTA updates are?
When I press update in the options of oneplus, is that it?
I wanna root my phone but I heard OTA updates might not be available.
So, are they available or not? Should I root the phone? I really need it but I don't wanna miss any oficial updates.
I hope I don't lose my root later or something!
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See this to root without unlocking. http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/root-unlocking-bootloader-t2820628/page4
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Just updated to XNPH05Q - help

So I lost twrp and root, Whats the easiest way to get root back or twrp as I cant get into twrp recovery to try and flash supersu.

SysAdmNj said:
So I lost twrp and root, Whats the easiest way to get root back or twrp as I cant get into twrp recovery to try and flash supersu.
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You'll probably need to flash a custom recovery via fastboot/toolkit, you can root at the same time or flash a supersu zip once you have your custom recovery.

gsmyth said:
You'll probably need to flash a custom recovery via fastboot/toolkit, you can root at the same time or flash a supersu zip once you have your custom recovery.
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Dammit, I should of asked first before updating lol. Thanks, I guess I'll have to go that route.

SysAdmNj said:
Dammit, I should of asked first before updating lol. Thanks, I guess I'll have to go that route.
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Same thing happened to me, but at least its simple enough to sort. Doesn't help if you're not near a PC and can't wait though!

For future reference remember and untick update CM recovery in developer options

gsmyth said:
Same thing happened to me, but at least its simple enough to sort. Doesn't help if you're not near a PC and can't wait though!
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Yup, gotta wait till this evening.
bombadier said:
For future reference remember and untick update CM recovery in developer options
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Jeez, missed that as well. Thanks.

Re-Install TWRP through Play Store no PC needed

Cholerabob said:
Re-Install TWRP through Play Store no PC needed
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But you need root to do that, no?

SysAdmNj said:
But you need root to do that, no?
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That's right, the TWRP app is really unreliable anyway so don't bother with it. Why don't you just flash TWRP the normal way, with fastboot?
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Whenever I try to update to v10j via OTA, it gives me an error. I am not rooted (yet)

Why would it be doing this? I already removed root via the SuperSU app permanently. What could be causing the error?

Bebout said:
Why would it be doing this? I already removed root via the SuperSU app permanently. What could be causing the error?
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You might have a system app removed or missing
Or maybe you have done something with the build prop as well if thats messed with that will also throw an error out.
If you read closely it should tell you what the error is

xxbabiboi228xx said:
You might have a system app removed or missing
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I really hope not. How do I go about finding out if I'm missing a system app? I've already done a factory reset along with unrooting via SuperSU's app.

Bebout said:
I really hope not. How do I go about finding out if I'm missing a system app? I've already done a factory reset along with unrooting via SuperSU's app.
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It should tell you the error after you try flashing the ota you may have to use the .kdz method

xxbabiboi228xx said:
It should tell you the error after you try flashing the ota you may have to use the .kdz method
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I don't have TWRP installed, either. I've got stock recovery and stock everything. I was going to remove root so I could update and then re-root for v10j and then install the new version of TWRP.

Bebout said:
I don't have TWRP installed, either. I've got stock recovery and stock everything. I was going to remove root so I could update and then re-root for v10j and then install the new version of TWRP.[/QUOTE
Your telling me you removed root ? But you never had twrp as your recovery ?
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xxbabiboi228xx said:
Bebout said:
I don't have TWRP installed, either. I've got stock recovery and stock everything. I was going to remove root so I could update and then re-root for v10j and then install the new version of TWRP.
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Your telling me you removed root ? But you never had twrp as your recovery ?
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I fixed it. I rooted the device and flashed the v10i recovery image for TWRP that I found and I'm now going to update to v10j via the kdz, as you suggested. Thank you.

Bebout said:
I fixed it. I rooted the device and flashed the v10i recovery image for TWRP that I found and I'm now going to update to v10j via the kdz, as you suggested. Thank you.
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No problem glad i could assist u in your problem

Why not get TWRP again and flash @GameTheory's v10j pre-rooted stock rom, it's not like you're going to see anything special with that update it's the last one before MM:
http://androidcreations.weebly.com/flashable-update-zip.html

Bebout said:
Why would it be doing this? I already removed root via the SuperSU app permanently. What could be causing the error?
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well even if you Remove root via SuperSU that doesn't mean your SYSTEM is unmodified, the only way to get back to FULL Unmod. software is by following my steps of restoring back to stock, here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/rom-lg-g-stylo-h631-ms631-v10j-stock-t3211563
P.S. You need to have TWRP for this so Re-Root and Re-Flash TWRP and follow steps

Any way to root without installing TWRP

Hi everyone
I've just received my Honor 8 and I would like to root it without installing TWRP (or any other recovery than stock one) to receive further OTAs.
Is there any way? I tried Kingroot but did not work.
Thanks

I haven't tried this, but you should be able to do a systemless install of TWRP, root the phone, then re-install the stock recovery.

Hi, thank you for your answer.
I tried this. I reinstalled stock recovery (found in a UPDATE.APP file). But now, my device fails to do OTAs.

Does it notify you they're available, but fail to install? Or is it not seeing any updates?
I haven't been able to do much experimentation because there's not TWRP backup for my L04 yet, and I don't want to leave myself in a bad state without a restore option. I'm probably going to hold off on any updates (I'm on b140 now) until I have a fully working TWRP.

I had a notification and, when it did reboot, it failed. Now, it doesn't see any update. I am on b101.

Finally, I downloaded frd-L09c432b120 from here.
I followed these instructions: (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68695798&postcount=2)
DigiGoon said:
Steps are below, follow them.
Download your phone's latest firmware and extract system.img, boot.img, recovery.img, cust.img from UPDATE.APP using Huawei Update Extractor tool.
Boot into bootloader mode by switching off the phone then pressing only the Vol DOWN button, and connecting it to PC simultaneously.
Flash recovery first, using this command.
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Flash all other extracted files similarly firing these commands.
Code:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash cust cust.img
fastboot flash system system.img
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I stopped there!
Rebooted my phone (no wipe done) and got a notification for an update.
The update succeeded (I'm now on B120).
But now, bootloader is locked again. So, it will wipe my phone when I will root it (locking bootloader first). So, I'm really looking for a solution to get OTAs on a rooted phone. Even if I will have to root it again, but without loosing lock on bootloader.

Isn't it possible to disable the device encryption so that you can avoid having to wipe it every time?

evilpaul13 said:
Isn't it possible to disable the device encryption so that you can avoid having to wipe it every time?
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How can I do this?

Florent06 said:
Finally, I downloaded frd-L09c432b120 from here.
I followed these instructions: (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68695798&postcount=2)
Flash all other extracted files similarly firing these commands.
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I stopped there!
Rebooted my phone (no wipe done) and got a notification for an update.
The update succeeded (I'm now on B120).
But now, bootloader is locked again. So, it will wipe my phone when I will root it (locking bootloader first). So, I'm really looking for a solution to get OTAs on a rooted phone. Even if I will have to root it again, but without loosing lock on bootloader.
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I suggest to not do any OTA's. For all we know, an OTA can make it harder to root.

The thing might not work with a new official release is the recovery. And looking to other devices that has not been the case.
Just don´t encrypt the phone as it makes much harder to update. Also might mess up the timed on/off function.

Rooting without TWRP must be really hard.
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I know only one way of rooting without twrp and that is to use KingRoot or a similar app/software.
It messes up the phone pretty bad and makes it a headache to get OTA in the future.

muradulislam said:
I know only one way of rooting without twrp and that is to use KingRoot or a similar app/software.
It messes up the phone pretty bad and makes it a headache to get OTA in the future.
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Well root itself will cripple OTA updates. Using Kingroot is really not recommended due to compatibility issues. So SuperSU is the best choice.
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adriansticoid said:
Well root itself will cripple OTA updates. Using Kingroot is really not recommended due to compatibility issues. So SuperSU is the best choice.
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I should have highlighted HEADACHE in the above post. With SuperSU or magisk, it's super easy to enable/get OTA again but not the same with KingRoot.
And the bootloader unlocked by KingRoot has to be unlocked again, using official method, to be able to flash desired images for a complete unroot.

muradulislam said:
I should have highlighted HEADACHE in the above post. With SuperSU or magisk, it's super easy to enable/get OTA again but not the same with KingRoot.
And the bootloader unlocked by KingRoot has to be unlocked again, using official method, to be able to flash desired images for a complete unroot.
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I once rooted my father's Honor Holly with Kingroot. Damn. Never again. Haha.
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adriansticoid said:
I once rooted my father's Honor Holly with Kingroot. Damn. Never again. Haha.
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Messed up partitions didn't it?

Tmobilefan906 said:
Messed up partitions didn't it?
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Yes! I rooted it with Kingroot and tried to flash a custom recovery through Flashify. The recovery partition got corrupted and I can't flash anything to it anymore.

adriansticoid said:
Yes! I rooted it with Kingroot and tried to flash a custom recovery through Flashify. The recovery partition got corrupted and I can't flash anything to it anymore.
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You can fix it

I think i can help you
You should use FRAMAROOT
link to download this is given below :
https://framarootappdownload.net/;);)

Tmobilefan906 said:
You can fix it
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How?
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kbhatia1 said:
You should use FRAMAROOT
link to download this is given below :
https://framarootappdownload.net/;);)
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Framaroot isn't updated anymore.
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Another upgrade question..

So, I'm on B380 since febuary or march (L09C432), and I think my battery stinks. It was way better before upgrading to Emui5. I haven't had the time to fix it but no I do. Just can't remember the "rules".
I'm no unlocked, Twrped and rooted. In System update I can download B389. But, will this work? Can I install it just like that? Will I loose Twrp and/or root?
I don't have a computer with me atm so I have no way of undoing the upgrade if I start it, thats why I want to be sure.
Thanks a bunch in advance guys!
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i preffer no, because if you brick at certain points ,PC is must to unbrick,if your phone is hard bricked.so stay back is good.

Rommco05 said:
I'm no unlocked, Twrped and rooted. In System update I can download B389. But, will this work? Can I install it just like that? Will I loose Twrp and/or root?
I'm not sure about this sentence, u not unlocked, no rooted no twrp? If no make update without any issue. If u are rooted and u have root update will be unsuccessful
Anyway B389 is pretty good update
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Sorry. It's supposed to say "I'm NOW unlocked, twrped and rooted."
Ok so it's a no go then. Guess I'll better wait until I'm back home and have access to a computer.
Thanks guys.
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were u rooted at b380?
if so, which root?

Since there is already B394 and some reported B398 coming I would wait a bit longer to update your device. And since you have twrp it's either flashable through it or you must first unroot your device, second fastboot stock recovery.img (don't forget recovery2.img) and then finally update via system update or dload. IF you are not familiar with the methods or the process please use search function on this website.

nortish said:
Sorry. It's supposed to say "I'm NOW unlocked, twrped and rooted."
Ok so it's a no go then. Guess I'll better wait until I'm back home and have access to a computer.
Thanks guys.
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Yeah, take a TWRP backup in case you've done something wrong

PalakMi said:
Yeah, take a TWRP backup in case you've done something wrong
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But the twrp backup wont work until u got the patched boot image .so first patch the boot by installing magisk and then proceed to take back up

venugopalu007 said:
But the twrp backup wont work until u got the patched boot image .so first patch the boot by installing magisk and then proceed to take back up
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I got it

PalakMi said:
I got it
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Good bro:good:

EduBaixo said:
were u rooted at b380?
if so, which root?
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im not sure to be honest. SuperSU i think but might be magisk as well.
im at home with my computer now. Should i just install stock recovery and install via System update? or download some files and flash via twrp?
nevermind backup, i have all my pictures on nextcloud and everything else is ok to loose.

nortish said:
im not sure to be honest. SuperSU i think but might be magisk as well.
im at home with my computer now. Should i just install stock recovery and install via System update? or download some files and flash via twrp?
nevermind backup, i have all my pictures on nextcloud and everything else is ok to loose.
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Flash stock recovery and then do dload method.

PalakMi said:
Flash stock recovery and then do dload method.
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Ok thanks.
Figure I might do a full factory reset and then upgrade. Do I have to unroot first and install stock recovery in this case also?
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nortish said:
Ok thanks.
Figure I might do a full factory reset and then upgrade. Do I have to unroot first and install stock recovery in this case also?
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It will be better if you do so.

nortish said:
Ok thanks.
Figure I might do a full factory reset and then upgrade. Do I have to unroot first and install stock recovery in this case also?
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After update the root willbbe automatically removed.so no need to again unroot

nortish said:
Ok thanks.
Figure I might do a full factory reset and then upgrade. Do I have to unroot first and install stock recovery in this case also?
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So regarding root. Magisk is currently running systemless. So i hope u wont face any difficulties

Magisk is best but it didn't passed me the safety net

gopinaidu77 said:
So regarding root. Magisk is currently running systemless. So i hope u wont face any difficulties
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Ok. Do You think I will?
Maybe I should unroot, factory reset, update, install twrp again and root again? Or will the factory reset not install stock recovery?
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nortish said:
Ok. Do You think I will?
Maybe I should unroot, factory reset, update, install twrp again and root again? Or will the factory reset not install stock recovery?
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Factory reset will not bring stock recovery back.

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Factory reset will not bring stock recovery back.
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But upgrade can

Ok so I ended up downgrading to B131 and from there I upgraded via System Update to B389.
I have installed TWRP, no problems there. But I cant get SuperSU to work.
Running TWRP 3.0.3.0 and tried flashing SuperSU-v2.79-201612051815-EMUI5.0 (which is what i think i used before). No luck. SuperSU app says "no binaries". So then I tried to mount system partition in TWRP and install Supersu again. Made no difference.
I have also tried flashing a newer version och SuperSU, but that didnt help.
So, what am I missing guys?