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hi all
after waiting of six month when arrived to Iraq ,and i bought Nexus S I9023 with 500 $ , after 4 days iam very disappointed because:
1.rooting and recovery very difficult .
2.there is no Radio
3.there is no Zoom in camera.
4.will damage and not work with two different ROM ,this problem i didnt get it with my old DEsire.
5.Internal Storage , so there is no SDcard thats a bit problem.
there is solution to these problem?
now planning to get HTC Desire HD .
are also diissapointed?
thanks.
1. No it's not, it's easy
2. Can't do a lot about that, a dev might figure it out though
3. Digital zoom is turd and shouldn't exist anyway
4. Pardon?
5. Yes that was a poor decision
cutiyar said:
hi all
after waiting of six month when arrived to Iraq ,and i bought Nexus S I9023 with 500 $ , after 4 days iam very disappointed because:
1.rooting and recovery very difficult .
2.there is no Radio
3.there is no Zoom in camera.
4.will damage and not work with two different ROM ,this problem i didnt get it with my old DEsire.
5.Internal Storage , so there is no SDcard thats a bit problem.
there is solution to these problem?
now planning to get HTC Desire HD .
are also diissapointed?
thanks.
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i'm very satisfied
but i am very sad about arabic language
My friend has a Desire HD and he is lucky if his battery lasts the whole day with wifi, gps and sync turned off. With my nexus s I can easily make it through two days with light use.
The rooting/custom recovery/custom rom process should be the easiest among all android devices since it is a pure google phone meant for developers.
oh man its a devphone why a dev want fm and rooting is easy as pie! fastboot oem unlock & fastboot flash recovery Name.img
what is the difficult?
zoom on camera is silly, you can make a photo and "zoom" in gallery.. same quality as digital zoom
maybe you flashed the roms false? not the devs fault ;D
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cutiyar said:
1.rooting and recovery very difficult .
2.there is no Radio
3.there is no Zoom in camera.
4.will damage and not work with two different ROM ,this problem i didnt get it with my old DEsire.
5.Internal Storage , so there is no SDcard thats a bit problem.
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Err, no. The thing's wide open, you don't even need any exploit code. Care to share your difficulties?
True, but you knew that beforehand (and who knows, maybe the FM radio that's inside it can be brought to life).
Where would you put a zoom lens? Not enough space. "Zooming" in software just lowers the image quality. You can do the same in post-processing by cropping to an area and enlarging that.
Sorry, I didn't quite understand that sentence.
As a matter of fact I agree with you but again, you knew that before you bought it.
1. You rooted a Desire (and s-offed maybe?) and you're saying that nexus s is hard to root? Jesus Christ people what's wrong with you?
2. Who listens to FM radio nowadays? We're in 2011, move on.
3. Why? To reduce quality? Kick ass feature indeed, you can zoom in gallery anyway.
4. Not our problem you can't read ROM descriptions. Besides, the two phone models were already splitted in to 2 different forums.
5. I'm still trying to figure it out why people need more then ~10gb of storage on a phone. Even with 1000 mp3s and a few movies, plus sd card files for certain HD games, you'd still have enough with the 16gb memory.
Instead of crying because of these non sense "dissapointments", you should wine about the laggy browser or about the fact that we only actually have 300mb RAM (since 200 are used for the GPU).
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2. Who listens to FM radio nowadays?
5. I'm still trying to figure it out why people need more then ~10gb of storage
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2. I do, because streaming local radio stations over the internet is generally wasteful (all that tech, just to listen to radio), doesn't work right (mobile internet just isn't reliable enough), is expensive (my data allowance is large but streaming radio will eat it like that) and drains the battery.
5. I don't need more storage but I'd like to be able to physically remove most of my personal data from the phone, to back it up or even just stick it in the next model. Even if I drop my phone and it's toast a microSD card could probably be salvaged. Built-in storage also takes away choice: How much storage do I need? How fast does it need to be? And lastly, cards can be re-used in a lot of different devices, which I prefer over buying new storage for every one.
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2. I do, because streaming local radio stations over the internet is generally wasteful (all that tech, just to listen to radio), doesn't work right (mobile internet just isn't reliable enough), is expensive (my data allowance is large but streaming radio will eat it like that) and drains the battery.
5. I don't need more storage but I'd like to be able to physically remove most of my personal data from the phone, to back it up or even just stick it in the next model. Even if I drop my phone and it's toast a microSD card could probably be salvaged. Built-in storage also takes away choice: How much storage do I need? How fast does it need to be? And lastly, cards can be re-used in a lot of different devices, which I prefer over buying new storage for every one.
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while you might have a point for the radio thing, i kind of disagree with the storage thing. the purpose of storage is not to store your important data. you should in fact never do that. What if you lose your phone or it gets stolen?
I think this is the tech era evolving and that you have choices like google docs, dropbox, picasa.... for storage which is easily accesible (even through your computer at home) and safer.
only complaints i have are battery life(decent), icon looks garbage (thank god for customizable icons but still a hassle...wish the market made a standard for a xxx amount of pixel/size for icons or something. more continuity with the icons) and RAM....the ram is just not enough. /sigh
not really disappointed as i give this phone a 8.5/10 and i was a previous iphone 4 user.
cutiyar said:
hi all
after waiting of six month when arrived to Iraq ,and i bought Nexus S I9023 with 500 $ , after 4 days iam very disappointed because:
1.rooting and recovery very difficult .
2.there is no Radio
3.there is no Zoom in camera.
4.will damage and not work with two different ROM ,this problem i didnt get it with my old DEsire.
5.Internal Storage , so there is no SDcard thats a bit problem.
there is solution to these problem?
now planning to get HTC Desire HD .
are also diissapointed?
thanks.
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1. Rooting & Recovery is not difficult at all. It's one of the most simpliest. One-clicks do not count. This phone is one of the few phones that permit unlocking the bootloader. Other phones' (with the exception of the N1) unlock their bootloader by using Android exploits.
2. There is a radio. Every phone has a radio including a flip phone.
3. All zooms in phones are not real "zooms." Real zooms consist of physical zoom.
4. ROMs doesn't damage your phone. It's because of something you did wrong.
5. If SDCard was such a problem, why did you get the phone in the first place? You should of done your research before buying the phone.
The only thing I'm disappointed with is the fact that they go ahead and release a 4G model a couple months later.
fallenguru said:
2. I do, because streaming local radio stations over the internet is generally wasteful (all that tech, just to listen to radio), doesn't work right (mobile internet just isn't reliable enough), is expensive (my data allowance is large but streaming radio will eat it like that) and drains the battery.
5. I don't need more storage but I'd like to be able to physically remove most of my personal data from the phone, to back it up or even just stick it in the next model. Even if I drop my phone and it's toast a microSD card could probably be salvaged. Built-in storage also takes away choice: How much storage do I need? How fast does it need to be? And lastly, cards can be re-used in a lot of different devices, which I prefer over buying new storage for every one.
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Data allowance?? That must be a T-Mobile thiing...because on Sprint the data is unlimited.
Quis89 said:
Data allowance?? That must be a T-Mobile thiing...because on Sprint the data is unlimited.
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LoL he's in Austria dude
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You should have gotten Galaxy S instead.
FM Radio, expandable SD card slot but no camera flash.
cutiyar said:
hi all
after waiting of six month when arrived to Iraq ,and i bought Nexus S I9023 with 500 $ , after 4 days iam very disappointed because:
1.rooting and recovery very difficult .
2.there is no Radio
3.there is no Zoom in camera.
4.will damage and not work with two different ROM ,this problem i didnt get it with my old DEsire.
5.Internal Storage , so there is no SDcard thats a bit problem.
there is solution to these problem?
now planning to get HTC Desire HD .
are also diissapointed?
thanks.
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Im not disappointed generally
the only thing i dont like is the lack of Sim Toolkit coz i cant access my SImcard's menu like banking and all, plus Google removed FB sync for Nexus S. and the compass screws up a lot too, which is impt for me when using maps coz I drive a lot.
but i can live without the sim toolkit and the fb sync... its the compass that bothers me.
lordnikon11 said:
You should have gotten Galaxy S instead.
FM Radio, expandable SD card slot but no camera flash.
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maybe you mean Galaxy S 2 its really a piece of art from inside and outside
asim1401 said:
maybe you mean Galaxy S 2 its really a piece of art from inside and outside
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No I meant Galaxy S.
The S2 is a different league.
deeren said:
while you might have a point for the radio thing, i kind of disagree with the storage thing. the purpose of storage is not to store your important data. [...] I think this is the tech era evolving and that you have choices like google docs, dropbox, picasa.... for storage which is easily accesible [...] and safer.
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Important, hm, not that important mostly, just a hassle to re-create. And I do use it to transport data between home and work ... let's settle for sometimes important data . If I had important data on there I'd certainly not upload it into some cloud. Also sometimes it isn't practical. Store my music and videos in the cloud, whoever thought of that. So it can skip and eat up bandwidth?
melloyellowkc said:
only complaints i have are battery life
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Really, mine's excellent, as long as Latitude is off. What does it say is using it?
zephiK said:
2. There is a radio. Every phone has a radio including a flip phone.
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You realize what (s)he meant, right?
Quis89 said:
Data allowance?? That must be a T-Mobile thiing...because on Sprint the data is unlimited.
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This is a forum with a very international user base, which is great. I've seen flags here that I didn't know existed. Why do so many Americans still assume every one else is from there, too?
Anyway, I'm in Austria and pay €4 / GB. Even if it wasn't limited it still shouldn't be wasted. Wireless bandwidth is scarce no matter what you do.
thanks for all our posts.
i Cant answer all posts but :
1. there is no radio but mr.zephiK said there is , u can tell where to get it?
2. r u in same ?? u say yes there is zoom in but u have to zoom it from gallery , so all phones should remove zoom button , this company pay alot of money to have good lens for zoom in .
3. Mr. Rusty doesnt need pardon i tried modaco and cyaogen mod ROM but they will damage some times.
thanks .
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/17/google-galaxy-nexus-hspa-first-impressions-video/
"Using the camera exposed a major flaw in Ice Cream Sandwich, namely the lack of USB mass storage support"
Jesus. I sthotught it was pretty bad when Honeycomb didnt have this feature working on Macs. I thought to myself, "why would Google release a product that's clearly a prototype?" I then thought it was odd that they didn't fix the problem in 3.1 0r 3.2. seemd like a no brainer, like they had just rushed the original version. yet now they're even removing it from their flagship PHONE? a device meant to be used for its utility, meant to compete with the iPhone by having the basic features the iPhone doesn't have? and this is AFTER the phone doesn't have an sd card slot, either. you'd think they'd be smarter than this, with all the stability and security problems Android's been having due to the bloatware and related fragmentation. it's only real advantage over the iPhone is that it can do more, yet Google seems to be doing everything they can to slowly chip away at those functions.
Galaxy Nexus, setting the standard for Android.
5MP Camera
Aging GPU
No MicroSD
No USB Mass Storage
LoL. I still don't know why people are flabbergast over this devices, but to each his own I guess.
I just wanted a SGSII with a 1280x720 display. But since that's not coming stateside, I'm enjoying my SGSII
Odd how they didn't just turn the SGSII LTE HD into the Galaxy Nexus with a few tweaks. Instead, they downgraded the flagship Samsung phone and just threw ICS on it.
i totally agree with you there
it would have made much more logical to use SGS2 HD as a Galaxy Nexus than the low en phone they have released
ICS on SGS2 will easily blow the Nexus G away
Nexus S was the same (internal storage, video record quality, etc. )
Why are people surprised by this.
This is a prototype/reference handset and the only real benefit to it is the early access to new OS updates and apparently a penta-band HSPA+ radio.
Other than that, you're better off just waiting for an OEM to release an ICS device.
The only funny thing is that Google left the Android UI in such deplorable state so long that OEMs are so used to skinning it. They will even skin ICS with Sense and TouchWiz.
I must admit.I was a bit hopeful.for this device. With Google Music and Video Store live, the lack of an SD slot is a really big issue, IMO.
Also, the lack if a Search button is a Showstopper for me. Maybe an OEM will put it back in. I do like the interface cues they took from Apple and Microsoft, though. The UI looks like actual graphics instead of ASCII art now.
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I have no idea if i even want this device , i never had any nexus device . It don't have a /SDCARD slot inside it and no USB storage , what the hell doe's that mean you can't plug it into the PC ?
Guys I just don't believe that it lacks USB mass storage support based on one sentence in one Engadget review. Maybe the guy didn't have his Windows drivers installed or missed a setting somewhere, who knows.
They released the source earlier this week and we haven't heard a peep about this. Surely someone woulda noticed this by now if it were removed?
Anyway.. maybe it is true but I'm not gonna jump to conclusions just yet...
Revolution said:
I have no idea if i even want this device , i never had any nexus device . It don't have a /SDCARD slot inside it and no USB storage , what the hell doe's that mean you can't plug it into the PC ?
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Well,maybe there will be gTunes(You know,something like Google's iTunes?).I dunno.It's complete bull****.I can do with a better UI,but I also liked the previous one.If they're going to deprive us of basic stuff,it'll be more like a downgrade.
Well,maybe we just have to enable USB debugging though...
tolis626 said:
Well,maybe there will be gTunes(You know,something like Google's iTunes?).I dunno.It's complete bull****.I can do with a better UI,but I also liked the previous one.If they're going to deprive us of basic stuff,it'll be more like a downgrade.
Well,maybe we just have to enable USB debugging though...
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it was launched live yesterday night
it's called Google Music
and yes there is also an App not by Google, called gTunes.
N8ter said:
Also, the lack if a Search button is a Showstopper for me.
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this. I'm pretty surprised by it, give that it's a GOOGLE made phone. the search button and its integration into apps is (was?) one of the best features onf Android, made navigating and finding files, contacts, anything you could think of so smooth and thoughtless, with one tap or press, always in the same spot without needing to distract yourself from anything else. now, google seems to be actually TRYING to kill it by relegating it to submenus.
look at Honeycomb: the "task" bar has so much potential, as a persistent bar that can be modified, upgraded, and given a myriad of quick functions due to being a screen based, persistent ~10 inch long area that could be able to launch a million functions. yet Google gives us only back, home, and app switcher. no search icon. even in apps that use the hardware search function on phones, a search button won't appear when you use them, yet menu will if they've been programmed to use the hardware menu key.
*shakes head* I thought Android was set to become THE dominant OS in the mobile sphere, but if Google keeps downgrading their product's most useful and unique functions while the iPhone copies the good ones, at the rate we're going, the iPhone may end up an overall better system by the end of 2012.
i use the search button almost every couple of minutes
makes it easy to find what i want, and read the websites i want in a blink of an eye
without it; i'll have to go the long arse way to find the app i want to run, then execute the app, then enter the website i want...
I don't know what studies they did. Microsoft destroyed the WP contextual search button and now I barely use that phone. Replacing search with app switcher when there's more than enough Tom to fit it there?
Idiotic.
Unless an OEM mods it back in, this won't be usable to me. Its not something I cab just get used to. It completely destroys the way I use my devices.
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How do you copy music/pictures then?
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Es no bueno!
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Cape Lucid said:
How do you copy music/pictures then?
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MTP quite likely. I hate that ****. It makes navigation, copying, pasting renaming etc annoying and slow compared to standard windows explorer.
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Yep, Android is MTP from now on. This switch already actually happened with the first version of Honeycomb. Supposedly a benefit is that the SD card doesn't have to be unmounted and remounted when transferring files. If you search online you can find some quotes from Google dev's on the topic of MTP.
I don't have a Galaxy Nexus to test, but I do have a Galaxy S II which defaults to MTP instead of mass storage USB. This is fine as it means it works perfectly with existing media managers, which is what I expect most consumers want.
That said, you can enable Mass Storage by checking USB Debugging in the Development section of settings. I suspect it's the same in the Galaxy Nexus.
TL;DR This report is unlikely to be true.
The Google Search Widget is integrated on every homescreen in ICS.
Funny, that's one of the things fandroids tend to bring up when discussing androids advantage over other OSes... And it was one of few valid points they had.
I suppose its a good thing then that Android has many OEMs that will probably provide the feature.
Hello,
I have a question about HTC Inspire 4G. I accidently stripped the gold pins on the sdcard module, so when you insert an sdcard inside of the sdcard module (slot), and then activate the camera, the camera activates, and a popup message says "Please insert an sdcard". Well, obviously it will say that, because I messed up the pins inside the module. I can get a replacement for 10.00 usd on ebay for it. But, thats not my question, I would like to see if I can root the phone, and have the pictures be saved to the internal memory instead of the sdcard.. Does anyone think this will work? If I root the phone, will the camera give me an option to save a picture anywhere else other then that darn sdcard slot? I appreciate it who ever is willing to help
Regards, :laugh:
xxcorrosionxx
xxcorrosionxx said:
Hello,
I have a question about HTC Inspire 4G. I accidently stripped the gold pins on the sdcard module, so when you insert an sdcard inside of the sdcard module (slot), and then activate the camera, the camera activates, and a popup message says "Please insert an sdcard". Well, obviously it will say that, because I messed up the pins inside the module. I can get a replacement for 10.00 usd on ebay for it. But, thats not my question, I would like to see if I can root the phone, and have the pictures be saved to the internal memory instead of the sdcard.. Does anyone think this will work? If I root the phone, will the camera give me an option to save a picture anywhere else other then that darn sdcard slot? I appreciate it who ever is willing to help
Regards, :laugh:
xxcorrosionxx
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I can only speak for the ROM I'm currently using, codefireX. I just looked at Camera and Gallery settings, and I don't see an option to choose where to save pictures.
Well, before you root the phone you will need to repair the sd card module. Which will then have solved your issue regarding the cam.
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Please post all questions in the Q & A section. Thanks! Thread moved.
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Hey thanks for the feedback, and sorry I posted in the wrong section. So, it isn't possible to root it without a sdcard? Also, is their any rom I can use that will have a feature to save pictures/recorded videos to the internal memory? If not I might as well go spend a few bucks on ebay and use gentle hands to dissamble the htc xD
xxcorrosionxx said:
Hey thanks for the feedback, and sorry I posted in the wrong section. So, it isn't possible to root it without a sdcard? Also, is their any rom I can use that will have a feature to save pictures/recorded videos to the internal memory? If not I might as well go spend a few bucks on ebay and use gentle hands to dissamble the htc xD
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Nope, it's not possible to root without an sdcard. Teichopsia caught a really good point. And I don't think there is a ROM that saves to internal memory, or at least I don't know of one.
bananagranola said:
Nope, it's not possible to root without an sdcard. Teichopsia caught a really good point. And I don't think there is a ROM that saves to internal memory, or at least I don't know of one.
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Hey I found a great tutorial for exactly what I wanted. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675864 Thanks mate
bananagranola said:
Nope, it's not possible to root without an sdcard. Teichopsia caught a really good point. And I don't think there is a ROM that saves to internal memory, or at least I don't know of one.
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I guess it could be theorerically possible by modyfing the script (heck if I know how to), but since the phone has limited memory I don't see much fotos being stored.
If it is possible then one could add a script for it to use 'x' amount of memory (to limit the amount used) and an option which asks where you want to save it. Which would get tedious after a while being asked constantly where to save the pic - or it could ask once per session. As well you could set it to default and somewhere in settings to change the default.
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I guess it could be theorerically possible by modyfing the script (heck if I know how to), but since the phone has limited memory I don't see much fotos being stored.
If it is possible then one could add a script for it to use 'x' amount of memory (to limit the amount used) and an option which asks where you want to save it. Which would get tedious after a while being asked constantly where to save the pic - or it could ask once per session. As well you could set it to default and somewhere in settings to change the default.
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That actually sounds nice, it would be pretty damn cool if their was a ROM that could do that. I mean it would be a small new feature that would help alot to users that have my problem.
xxcorrosionxx said:
That actually sounds nice, it would be pretty damn cool if their was a ROM that could do that. I mean it would be a small new feature that would help alot to users that have my problem.
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You could be the first to do it.
All you need is free time and the willingness to learn.
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You could be the first to do it.
All you need is free time and the willingness to learn.
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Well here is a code I found for android programming that can save bitmap image to the internal memory. But, I am not a android developer, I have no knowledge of app programming and rom modding: stackoverflow.com/questions/7314125/saving-image-to-internal-memory-and-would-appear-in-the-gallery
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Well here is a code I found for android programming that can save bitmap image to the internal memory. But, I am not a android developer, I have no knowledge of app programming and rom modding: stackoverflow.com/questions/7314125/saving-image-to-internal-memory-and-would-appear-in-the-gallery
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I read some where, where a developer said that some android apps come equiped with internal/sd card options to picture saving picture. One of the apps the developer said that would work is a free app called Camera ICS. Idk, I am in the process of downloading it. I shall let you all know if this could be an option.
Update: Did not work for the camera app
For everyone with the S4 google edition. As you know the ability of many apps to be able to write to the sd card was busted with the 4.3 update. Just got off the phone with Samsung and explained the situation and they said they have not received any other calls on this and basically nothing will be done until they receive more calls. So please let them know. their number is 1 800 726 7864 Thank you!
Please dont take it personal but don't be naive
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Please dont take it personal but don't be naive
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Please don't take it personal but don't be a anus
Heard another user using this Samsung number can escalate the issue quicker
You can contact our voice support at 1-888-987-4357, Mon-Fri: 7 AM - 9 PM (CST), Sat: 9 AM - 6 PM (CST).
I will call on Monday and urge others to as well.
In the meantime, it there anyway to go back to stock 4.2.2 on the GT-I9505G? Everything was so good!
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/11...-breaks-sd-card-writing-for-apps-heres-a-fix/
planoman said:
I will call on Monday and urge others to as well.
In the meantime, it there anyway to go back to stock 4.2.2 on the GT-I9505G? Everything was so good!
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If like me you don't want to root no. Some apps that could save to SD card(camera JB+)developers are working on a fix but from what I read today it doesn't sound good. One program that still works is ES File Explorer to move files to SD card. But not the greatest solution. Hopefully Samsung will put out a fix if we make some noise.
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If like me you don't want to root no. Some apps that could save to SD card(camera JB+)developers are working on a fix but from what I read today it doesn't sound good. One program that still works is ES File Explorer to move files to SD card. But not the greatest solution. Hopefully Samsung will put out a fix if we make some noise.
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Dude, just root the phone, install Busybox and use Foldermount to move apps to the sdcard
These threads are funny. Everyone *****es about Samsung's apps, framework, overlay and customizations so they release a phone that's as AOSP as possible. Then people ***** about not having access to Samsung's customizations. OP, Google's adamantly against external storage which is why Nexus devices don't have it. Be lucky the SGS4 GE supports it at all which is a customization to AOSP in itself. There are two SGS4s - pick the one that works for you. Expecting Samsung to continue to add their own features to a phone intentionally kept as "pure" as possible is a bit nuts and goes against why GE edition phones exist in the first place. The post above this one is the answer to your problem. Not spamming Samsung.
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Expecting Samsung to continue to add their own features to a phone intentionally kept as "pure" as possible is a bit nuts and goes against why GE edition phones exist in the first place.
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Uhhh, you're a little misinformed. We can't write to the SD card at all. Not just apps2sd is broken. I don't care about that. I can't create a folder on my SD Card with Solid Explorer without rooting my phone and modifying a system file. That's bull****. The phone is advertised on play.google.com as supporting expandable storage. They need to fix it.
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Uhhh, you're a little misinformed. We can't write to the SD card at all. Not just apps2sd is broken. I don't care about that. I can't create a folder on my SD Card with Solid Explorer without rooting my phone and modifying a system file. That's bull****. The phone is advertised on play.google.com as supporting expandable storage. They need to fix it.
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You're right. I am. But you guys looking for people's help in getting the problem fixed also did a crappy job of explaining it. Let me help.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/08/ga...-android-4-3-breaks-sd-card-writing-for-apps/
Since it's an identified problem that's been picked up by the media you can pretty much assume a fix is in the works. Relying on low-paid third party call center agents as a source of info ("Samsung's not aware of the problem") isn't really that wise as they are typically the last to know about both problems and their solutions.
Hope it gets fixed soon.
I called this morning to the mobile services number. They did ask me for my IMEI number he repeated the issue back to me and he understood it as a SD writing issue not apps to SD issue.
I also requested he put in to Google "4.3 issue with s4 Google edition" and they will see several post explaining the issue.
He said he would forward to technical support.
To those with a GT-I9505G please call even if you do not care about the issue.
Although ES file explorer work to move pics and video to the Ext SD card, this should be fixed for this model since it is about the only pure android OS with an SD card.
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running my i9505g stock rooted on 4.3
ive been getting ALOT of force closes since the the update. unrooted the device/factory reset and still getting alot of FC's
Google Play music
Candy crush
Feedly
flipboard
Facebook
etc etc
almost every app
about to go back to 4.2.2
WhiteSRT69 said:
running my i9505g stock rooted on 4.3
ive been getting ALOT of force closes since the the update. unrooted the device/factory reset and still getting alot of FC's
Google Play music
Candy crush
Feedly
flipboard
Facebook
etc etc
almost every app
about to go back to 4.2.2
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4.2.2 was great! of the apps you mentioned I only use Google Play music and have not had any force closes. The only issue for my is the ext sd card writing bug in which my camera apps, JB+ camera, Procapture and Zoom camera FX cannot save pictures to the ext SD card like they could on 4.2.2!
You people expect an answer by calling samsung? Seriously?
Let me tell you this- they don't care. They got away with your $$$ and don't give a rat's poop.
They release updates and put what they want on it when they feel like it (or a court order forces them).
That's why XDA exists so we won't have to be so reliant on samsung regarding features that we want.
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You people expect an answer by calling samsung? Seriously?
Let me tell you this- they don't care. They got away with your $$$ and don't give a rat's poop.
They release updates and put what they want on it when they feel like it (or a court order forces them).
That's why XDA exists so we won't have to be so reliant on samsung regarding features that we want.
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They apparently listened on the low available space on the S4 and brought back apps to SD for the S4 in a fairly quick update. In the case of the S4 Google Edition, we are taking about one line of code in the platform.xml file. I do expect them to issue a fix. Why wouldn't they if it is a legitimate bug? If not, they may as well stop making the S4 GPe because nobody will buy them if this is not fixed. Many people that buy the s4 GPe want their apps to have write access the ext SD card.
The Samsung email address page is a little tricky to find here it is
https://contactus.samsung.com/custom....jsp?SITE_ID=1
This is what I wrote feel free to use all or part
I have a recently purchased Samsung s4 google edition i9505G from the Google play store. After the 4.3 android update my apps have lost the ability to write to the sd card. This has been documented in many articles on the web.
I have talked to Google and they told me a fix for this would be your responsibility.
Are you aware of this problem? Are you working on a fix? Thanks!
I'm sure this will be patched eventually but I don't think bugging them will make it any quicker lol
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Because the squeaky wheel doesn't get the grease?
Did you see where Google refunded the shipping cost on the Nexus 7 sleeve because of the uproar on the outrageous shipping cost. These companies listen and respond once you let them know. At $649 a pop for this device they should fix this.
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They apparently listened on the low available space on the S4 and brought back apps to SD for the S4 in a fairly quick update. In the case of the S4 Google Edition, we are taking about one line of code in the platform.xml file. I do expect them to issue a fix. Why wouldn't they if it is a legitimate bug? If not, they may as well stop making the S4 GPe because nobody will buy them if this is not fixed. Many people that buy the s4 GPe want their apps to have write access the ext SD card.
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Why not download a tool from the market that allows this ? problem solved
I'm debating between the two. I have a change to get one soon but I'm leaning on keeping the S7e since the U firmware runs well. I also think the S7e looks way better than the XL. It also means giving up SPay, Qi, IP68, compact body,... But Android 7.0 with the new goodies... hmmmm
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Samsung Pay, and the sleek look of the S7edge are the only things that keep me on.
I've never liked the camera UI of vanilla android.... also water resistant, sd card support & big ass battery
wait for the Galaxy S8 edge it will have all the upgraded specs and way more.
to get rid of touchwiz..... in a heartbeat
I'll put an end to this. The S7 Edge has the following advantages over the Pixel XL:
Bigger battery
Edge shortcuts
Waterproof
Better always on display
SD card
Wireless charging
Floating window
Screen gets brighter in daylight and darker at night
Scroll capture
Samsung widgets, magazine, weather, calendar..
Can still use JOD
Can use T-Mobile insurance
Samsung backup
Samsung pay
Better price
Dimensions are way better
As you can see the choice is a no-brainer. Shouldn't even require any thought actually. The only thing the Pixel has is android 7.1 and some software tricks for the camera. 7.1 doesn't do much (I have it on my Nexus) and the photos look better in all lighting conditions on the S7e, even though the Pixel has really great stabilization and is faster at snapping the photo.
The only thing the Pixel has is android 7.1 and some software tricks for the camera.
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...Yeah, what's "real root on a usable kernel" anyway?
DOMF said:
...Yeah, what's "real root on a usable kernel" anyway?
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I don't know why don't you explain to me exactly what you'll be gaining with root. And then explain how that is worth throwing away android pay.
seh6183 said:
I don't know why don't you explain to me exactly what you'll be gaining with root. And then explain how that is worth throwing away android pay.
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Host-file based ad blocking, Xposed and everything that goes along with that, viper, freezing system apps you don't like, DriveDroid...
All for the low low price of "having to swipe a credit card instead of tapping your phone on a thing"
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Host-file based ad blocking, Xposed and everything that goes along with that, viper, freezing system apps you don't like, DriveDroid...
All for the low low price of "having to swipe a credit card instead of tapping your phone on a thing"
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Ad blocking can be done without root.
Viper is buggy and totally unnecessary.
Freezing system apps can be done without root.
DriveDroid? Lol
Xposed is the only decent thing on your list and even it is buggy and questionable.
seh6183 said:
Ad blocking can be done without root.
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Not very effectively
seh6183 said:
Viper is buggy and totally unnecessary.
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Untrue, dont even know where to start on this..
seh6183 said:
Freezing system apps can be done without root.
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Again yea kinda
seh6183 said:
Xposed is the only decent thing on your list and even it is buggy and questionable.
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WTF are you even doing on XDA? Are you a shill for closed systems and locked bootloaders? If you are that naive about the benefits of real root then you really should do some homework.
Custom roms
debloating
Overclocking
Expanded app features
Root explorer and the like (and if you say samsungs file manger is good enough I'll beat you with a sack of doorknobs)
Titanium backup
X touchwiz
Feature tweaking and customization
Busybox
Actual Privacy control
Actual control to do what you want with your property
And more, not to mention each of those has a bunch of reasons all their own.
Android and samsung pay and any other mobile pay option are jokes. I have credit cards that also are tap and pay and have been for many years. You feel free to explain why something available in cards already is worth throwing all that away just to put it on a phone that is unless all youre doing is trolling.
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Not very effectively
Untrue, dont even know where to start on this..
Again yea kinda
WTF are you even doing on XDA? Are you a shill for closed systems and locked bootloaders? If you are that naive about the benefits of real root then you really should do some homework.
Custom roms
debloating
Overclocking
Expanded app features
Root explorer and the like (and if you say samsungs file manger is good enough I'll beat you with a sack of doorknobs)
Titanium backup
X touchwiz
Feature tweaking and customization
Busybox
Actual Privacy control
Actual control to do what you want with your property
And more, not to mention each of those has a bunch of reasons all their own.
Android and samsung pay and any other mobile pay option are jokes. I have credit cards that also are tap and pay and have been for many years. You feel free to explain why something available in cards already is worth throwing all that away just to put it on a phone that is unless all youre doing is trolling.
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Ad blocking is not very effective without root? I don't see a single ad, don't have root. Seems pretty effective to me.
I have 180 apps frozen on my phone right now. What is this "kinda" you speak of?
XDA was created when phones NEEDED to be rooted and tweaked just to make them enjoyable. The OEMs are eliminating the need for root one item at a time and eventually it will be totally unnecessary. Believe it or don't but that's reality and it will hit you in the face like a ton of bricks in the next year or two.
Every single thing that you mentioned can be done without root or is unnecessary.
If you have to have those features you mentioned, excellent then go ahead and choose a phone that can be rooted, and root your heart out so you can change the color of your status bar LOL
I personally prefer not to give up things such as Samsung pay. If you cant wrap your head around why Samsung pay is popular and useful then there is nothing I can say to educate you. Maybe you don't even know what mst is? Anyway have fun with whatever it is that you do.
Your arrogance is amazing, do you purport know better than everyone else?
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Ad blocking is not very effective without root? I don't see a single ad, don't have root. Seems pretty effective to me.
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LOL wow so because you dont have any adds that means the method you use is just as good for everyone? If everyone uses your method there would be no adds whatsoever, is that what you are saying?
seh6183 said:
I have 180 apps frozen on my phone right now. What is this "kinda" you speak of?
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As for freezing, you cant freeze certain system apps w/o root that's why I said kinda. See how that works? Not to mention the overall problem of freezing instead of removing. But yea keep the bloatware and limit your space.
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XDA was created when phones NEEDED to be rooted and tweaked just to make them enjoyable. The OEMs are eliminating the need for root one item at a time and eventually it will be totally unnecessary. Believe it or don't but that's reality and it will hit you in the face like a ton of bricks in the next year or two.
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As far as you rationale on xda and rooting, OEMs are not eliminating the need for root, otherwise most people wouldnt be on here. And who are you to say what is needed to make other's phones more enjoyable? The fact that people want root is indicative of their need to make modifications to make their phone enjoyable to them. And also is that why the international versions have unlocked bootloaders? To educate you, OEMS lock bootloaders at the request of carriers. Locked bootloaders have been available to be instituted for many years, and seeing as US carriers are starting to utilize them the demand for unlocked phones are increasing.
https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-introduces-unlocked-galaxy-s7-and-galaxy-s7-edge-in-the-u-s
Samsung even admits it and has released a carrier independent unlocked s7
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Every single thing that you mentioned can be done without root or is unnecessary.
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Again who says its unnecessary? You? Since when do you speak for the majority?
seh6183 said:
If you have to have those features you mentioned, excellent then go ahead and choose a phone that can be rooted, and root your heart out so you can change the color of your status bar LOL
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Again I will and many others will to due to our need to make our phones more enjoyable
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I personally prefer not to give up things such as Samsung pay. If you cant wrap your head around why Samsung pay is popular and useful then there is nothing I can say to educate you.
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AGAIN so... because you have settled on that tradeoff and others dont agree with your opinion, you are saying that we must not be educated? What a narrow world view, agree with everything I say and do or you're wrong and must be corrected. The Nazis had the same idea but took it a step further and eliminated opposition.
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Maybe you don't even know what mst is?
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Do you? Yes I know what MST is, its Samsung's latest push towards wireless payment technology utilizing NFC. And if the merchant doesnt use it then samsung pay will go ahead and use older "Less Secure" Technology or wont work at all resulting in you having to pull out your bank card and use it either by tap and pay, chip or good old fashioned swiping.
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Anyway have fun with whatever it is that you do.
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Yes, I like many others, will keep trying to get real root because of OUR need to make our devices more enjoyable.
Oh and btw I forgot to mention Xposed by itself, does absolutely nothing, its a framework for root apps to make the modifications and in fact most apps are quite stable on real root. Real root enables the users to fix and streamline the performance of their devices not just customize. Like disabling DVFS, odex/deodex, custom kernels, these are not for aesthetic purposes but functional. To make up for problems like this
http://bgr.com/2016/03/25/galaxy-s7-performance-test-us-vs-global-pt-2/
But keep drinking the koolaid and insist that security is paramount to freedom. The establishment will love you for it.
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a bunch of annoying babbling
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Look buddy take a hike. No one cares. Go to a forum for a phone that has "proper root" and tell them about how much you love root and all the cool things you can do with it.
The fact of the matter is, like I've stated before, almost everything can be accomplished without root. I don't need you to believe this for it to be fact.
Go buy the inferior pixel so you can load a custom rom that allows you to have a floating side bar or buggy app addons and then wait for the dev to fix them all.
Either way just go away. This isn't a root thread, it's about the s7e vs the pixel and I've already blown that argument out of the water.
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Look buddy take a hike. No one cares. Go to a forum for a phone that has "proper root" and tell them about how much you love root and all the cool things you can do with it.
The fact of the matter is, like I've stated before, almost everything can be accomplished without root. I don't need you to believe this for it to be fact.
Go buy the inferior pixel so you can load a custom rom that allows you to have a floating side bar or buggy app addons and then wait for the dev to fix them all.
Either way just go away. This isn't a root thread, it's about the s7e vs the pixel and I've already blown that argument out of the water.
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LOL awwwww did I make the troll mad? "the fact of the matter is" I respond with structured facts and refrences, you refuse to refute my points with anything other than a tantrum and unfounded opinions. YOU were the one that tried to act like everything you said was fact with no proof, You began this debate and now that its plain to see that you have no real ground to stand on, you are gonna knock the pieces off the board. And apparently people care, you may not but others do. So your "No one cares" is yet another unfounded opinion that has no basis in truth. And as far as going to a forum where people care about root, I did, that's what XDA is, all of it! Its XDA DEVELOPERS! Maybe you should find a new site to spout your locked bootloader/anti root vitrol and where you can refuse to act like a reasonable adult. LMFAO.
All my ads are blocked.
I can freeze every single process on my phone.
You don't know how mst works.
FAIL.
Im eating popcorn while reading all this.
I would not trade the GS7E for a pixel or any other Google branded phone. Had bad experiences with prior Nexus phones. To put it simply, the plusses of this phone easily outweigh the plusses of the pixel, which really is only that it has stock Android and quick updates. I couldn't care less about root, as another poster stated, ad blocking and freezing apps can be done without. Never had good experiences with xposed. And lastly, if you want the UI to look stock, Samsung good lock has you covered. Overall, this phone doesn't lag, doesn't crash, has excellent battery life, water resistance, and reasonably quick updates. Life is too short to deal with rooting and other nonsense. I want a phone that works with minimal input from me, and this gives me that.
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You don't know how mst works.
FAIL.
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This is literally all I saw...the failure to realise what MST is and/or how it works. NFC is kind of weak...android pay uses it some cards have it the samsung gear s2 watch uses it for sam pay....but mst...mst since nobody wanted to educate the other guy...creates an electromagnetic field of sorts that mimics the magnetic frequency resonance whatever what have you of said card (well actually a secondary card number to protect yours) to emulate a card swipe...works places NOTHING else does..android pay apple pay paypal none of them work because you are in the country somewhere at some hillbilly gasstation that has only a card reader...sam pay will save you. It should even work with square pay readers ?. I will say though...v4a Viper4Android...is VERY useful especially if you are an audiophile. No other app compares...period...coming from someone with an s7e that isnt rooter because i use sam pay. And i must say yea i miss the abilities of a rooted phone...but ive been fine since march without. Also heard tmobile was checking to see if devices were rooted now on insurance....i already cracked my screen once(sparks shooting across the room actually did it)...if thats true i would have been a $$ out if rooted...oh and to answer your question...not in a million years...tmobiles bill credit isnt even enticing enough coupled with the note7 fiasco. Ill be getting the 5.5 s8 or s8e however they will market the moniker as soon as it drops
I didn't want to explain mst to the guy because I was hoping he would continue to live his life believing that mst is just nfc lol
I guess I just don't see what is so great about viper. An equalizer is very important to me but that is built into the apps these days. All the other functions of viper are unimportant to me. I'm not an audiophile so I'm probably missing it, but adding an echo or virtual surround to my music is not important. And I've had bugs and drain with viper before (only on certain devices)