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I was thinking that a Generic Android Tablet Discussion thread would be a good idea. No matter the brand , maker size etc. Talk about them here.
Im debating between the Archos 101 and waiting to see if the Moto tab is good.
Whats Out There
I have been keeping a keen eye out for the variety of higher end tablets and here is what I have sort of come up with so far:
Samsung Tablet (7")
Motorola Stingray (10")
Viewsonic viewpad (7")
LG Optimus pad
SteamTV Elocity pad (7")
Archos Family of pads (3"-10")
They all have there merits, and the minor things that make them not so great. But here is a list of the gamot of features you can look for. Some of the tablets have alot of them, some have none, its basically what you want to do with it:
3G
WIFI
GPS
Bluetooth 2.1 or 3.0
Capacitive Screen
USB port(s)
(Micro) SD card slot
HDMI
G-Sensor
Accelerator meter
Geomagnetic sensor
Light Sensor
Front Camera
Back Camera
Google Apps Integration
NVIDA Tegra 2 versus 1GHx CPU w/ GPU
1024 x 600 resolution versus 800 x 480
RAM
Disk Space
Version of Android (2.2 now 3.0 later)
-MW
I know they are poppping out of the woodwork now. My biggest thing is that the majority are really expensive. Like the new Toshiba announced today is $540. THat is why Either the Cruz or Archos will match all my criteria. But the nice thing is that there seems to be a ton of different options.
Toshiba Folio 100
10.1-inch capacitive touchscreen
1024 x 600
Android 2.2 (Froyo)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 processor
16 GB internal storage (32 GB available SD expansion)
Adobe Flash 10.1
1.3 MP front-facing camera
Mini-HDMI
USB 2.0
Bluetooth 2.1
WLAN (802.11)
Mobile broadband (available Q1 2011)
I've been disappointed with the IFA ones as almost all of them have 3G which means here, onerous data contracts or ridiculous prices w/o.
Archos underwent feature regression(e.g. no GPS), and has some whacked prices for the 70 & 101. The rest seem kind of useless to me too small and at least the smallest two don't have any way of expanding storage which makes them kind of useless as anything other than a portable music player.
The Viewsonic is the Olivepad one? Didn't seem to be all that great.
Toshiba Folio MIGHT have been nice, but that Tegra will likely make it expensive.
...just too many hawking 3G and not enough that have useful extras like higher res cameras, GPS, mics, and maybe bluetooth... i.e. I'm just meh'ed by IFA offerings... Witstech A81-E is still looking good and they just got another new fw release 8/31...
Good catch, forgot the toshiba one. Here is what I am looking for a tablet:
3G (mainly so I can have google apps)
7" Display
Capacitive screen (OMLED prefered)
1024 x 600
Android 2.2 upgradeable to android 3.0
front camera
1 GHz CPU (perferably the tegra 2)
GPU (if no NVIDIA CPU)
front camera (dont care about a back one)
A-GPS
Bluetooth (at least 2.1)
WIFI B/G/N
USB
8+ GB internal storage
SD card slot is nice but not manditory
HDMI is nice but not manditory
Which matches up with the samsung tab, but the British price I found had it at over 600 British pounds, which converts to over 1000 US dollars.
-MW
mothy said:
I know they are poppping out of the woodwork now. My biggest thing is that the majority are really expensive. Like the new Toshiba announced today is $540. THat is why Either the Cruz or Archos will match all my criteria. But the nice thing is that there seems to be a ton of different options.
Toshiba Folio 100
10.1-inch capacitive touchscreen
1024 x 600
Android 2.2 (Froyo)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 processor
16 GB internal storage (32 GB available SD expansion)
Adobe Flash 10.1
1.3 MP front-facing camera
Mini-HDMI
USB 2.0
Bluetooth 2.1
WLAN (802.11)
Mobile broadband (available Q1 2011)
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Damn that is expensive.
Im mainly looking for a ereader, web surfer, watch some videos on trips, and check my gapps when on wifi.
Check out the stream tv elocity pad. No 3g, but no gps ether. the reason why everyone puts on 3g is because it's the only way to get google apps on it, until google changes their requirements for google apps.
-MW
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My wishlist is 2ghz processor at least 50gb harddrive maybe even (dare I say it) windows 7. I would like my tablet to replace my laptop. Android just isn't ready yet.
I saw talks of honeycomb [url="http://phandroid.com/2010/09/02/android-3-5-honeycomb-to-be-on-samsungs-next-generation-of-tablets-in-2011/]"here[/url] on the samsung tablet. That might be nice . Or that isn't going to be outdated in a few months
Asadullah said:
My wishlist is 2ghz processor at least 50gb harddrive maybe even (dare I say it) windows 7. I would like my tablet to replace my laptop. Android just isn't ready yet.
I saw talks of honeycomb [url="http://phandroid.com/2010/09/02/android-3-5-honeycomb-to-be-on-samsungs-next-generation-of-tablets-in-2011/]"here[/url] on the samsung tablet. That might be nice . Or that isn't going to be outdated in a few months
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I think a 2Ghz CPU, as of right now, is over powered for android. I have a Gentouch78 tablet that runs at 600MHz and it seems to run OK. My 1GHz nexus one has had no issues, and I have it multi tasking several apps at once sometimes. It will get really hot, especially when I toss the car charger on it while its doing all that, but never seen it slow down to unresponsiveness. As for the HDD space. I dont use mine much for multi media, so 50gb would be overdoing it for me. Just the ability to have an SD card slot would be enough for me, that right there is 32 gb.
Now dealing with the android OS itself, this is where things are starting to get wierd. You have 2.2, which is really a phone OS, you have 3.0 which is really a tablet OS, and so the current samsung tablet is supposed to be 2.2 and will get 3.0, but now this 3.5 is where it gets confusing. Some of the stuff I have been reading is stating that 3.5 is going to be an entirely different OS completly, or at least have an entirely different usage beyond that of a tablet or cell phone. And that you will have to buy an entirely new piece of hardware to use it because samsung already said their current tablet wont get 3.5 when it comes out, but i twill get 3.0. This is making me think that 3.5 may be the google chrome OS, which from what I am hearing I am not a total fan of. So basically, the idea as I understand it, is that the hardware will just be the input/output device and all the applications will be stored on teh cloud as well as the work being done will be done on the cloud. This is all nice and dandy until either 1) everyone gets on all at once and bogs down the system or 2) the cloud or network goes down and the device is worthless. Thats why I like android right now. If you have no data connection you can still do work. Now some things on android that do run off the cloud, like the GPS, if you need to reroute and you loose the data connection, since all the work is done on the back end you cant get anywhere until the data connection comes back.
Since Android is a full fledge Linux OS I think it can do whatever you need it to do, you just need to port the apps over. So i think it can replace a laptop, but there will always be certain things that make a laptop easier to use that are unrelated to the android OS, like a real keyboard. With phones, for instance, I still feel more comfortable texting on a physical keyboard on my blackberry then I do on the virtual keyboard on my nexus one. Now can I develope a web page, photoshop some images and toss them on the web page, with android? If they ported the apps over then sure why not, the physical keyboard will just make it easier. But as soon as you start talking windows 7 you are changing the entire hardware requirements (ARM CPU versus an x86 CPU) which will allow you to run your favorite web development software and photo editing software, and now your 50gb of disk space will be all chewed up with the OS and applications but no room for media, and with the new hardware requirements the price goes up (not like the samsung tab isnt expensive either) but then the bottom line is its still awkward to use because of the lack of a physical keyboard.
Now I am just using web development/photo editing as an example, simplier tasks, like email and web surfing, will require less and are easily done on the android OS. But the bottom line is to use the right tool for the right job, outline your requirements and find a solution that best fits your needs. I believe that android will be a decent laptop replacement if all your doing with your laptop is surfing the web and sending email but if your trying to do less casual stuff, like photo editing and web development, then android right now is obviously not enough, but in the future it might be. It goes back to the age old question, does hardware push the software industry, or does software push the hardware industry?
-MW
Here is the Archos 101 in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZD4Mdkt40g
You can see all the new Archos line in action here:
http://archosfans.com/
Nice...
@mothy: They're all very nice and all..but taking out the GPS is like taking a step back.....Price is nice, but I'm sure there'll be cheaper WITH GPS before too long.
marcelol said:
@mothy: They're all very nice and all..but taking out the GPS is like taking a step back.....Price is nice, but I'm sure there'll be cheaper WITH GPS before too long.
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maybe..but for me I have no use for GPS on a tablet....but that is just me. Just like all new technologies price points will get better with maturity of product.
Hello, I am newbie in using (or just having) android tablet and I am seeking one that will suits me. I found this one
Code:
gpccn.com/picshow.asp?id=31&fl=Tablet%20pc
and like it.
I want
capacitive multitouch screen
fast CPU
7 to 10 inch screen
HDMI, USB, G-sensor etc
It looks that this device have all of this, but it has just 512MB nand and it has 1366x768 and I dont know if nand will be enough and if there will be any use for such high resolution if there is no possibilities for using market
What do you thing? Is there anybody who knows this company? Anybody with tablet 1366x768?
Thanks for any reply
ondrapopik said:
Hello, I am newbie in using (or just having) android tablet and I am seeking one that will suits me. I found this one
Code:
gpccn.com/picshow.asp?id=31&fl=Tablet%20pc
and like it.
I want
capacitive multitouch screen
fast CPU
7 to 10 inch screen
HDMI, USB, G-sensor etc
It looks that this device have all of this, but it has just 512MB nand and it has 1366x768 and I dont know if nand will be enough and if there will be any use for such high resolution if there is no possibilities for using market
What do you thing? Is there anybody who knows this company? Anybody with tablet 1366x768?
Thanks for any reply
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Hmmm.... looks like they took a screenshot of an android VM running on ubuntu and photoshopped it into their device. If they don't have any pictures of the tablet in action, I'd be really dubious...
Finally I ordered this one, so will post some review when it arrives.
So I tested tablet I ordered few weeks ago and realized that this is the same device as Advent Vega. I test quadrant benchmark and got 2200 points without any customization of rom.
Screen is nice and response is fast. I can recommend this one.
ondrapopik said:
So I tested tablet I ordered few weeks ago and realized that this is the same device as Advent Vega. I test quadrant benchmark and got 2200 points without any customization of rom.
Screen is nice and response is fast. I can recommend this one.
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Can you tell us where you got it from please? Thanks.
Itaintrite said:
Can you tell us where you got it from please? Thanks.
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I found it on alibaba.com ( w w w . alibaba. com/product-tp/111757797/Nvidia_10Inch_tablet_PC_with_Capacitive.html ) or you can try web I posted before
Hi all,
Another Tegra2 tablet, eLocity A7, is finally available in-store:
http://www.centredaily.com/2010/12/15/2404279/elocity-a7-mobile-tablet-launching.html
I'll check it out at Fry's & Micro center.
Seems better option than the Archos 70, but considering about same price of Gtablet, the G appears the better option over the Elocity A7.
Not to mention uncharted mod territiry. Gtablet is proven in that regard
rushless said:
Seems better option than the Archos 70, but considering about same price of Gtablet, the G appears the better option over the Elocity A7.
Not to mention uncharted mod territiry. Gtablet is proven in that regard
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Totally agree. 6 months back I was looking at this tab or Galaxy Tab but got GTab with Zpad/TnT-Lite and there's no looking back ... . BTW, haven't touched my Dell XT 12" laptop since.
I wonder if everything works, or same problems as the other Tegra devices so far.
Seems big price differences:
Amazon = $380
Tiger = $350
BJs = $300
Hmmm.. Which would I pick.....
Agreed on the lappy use. My M11X has been used twice since having the G.
Well looks like elocity took their time, flash works. But angry birds wont install. I got this info from the amazon review from a guy that just got it. My only question is how is the screen? I myself have the gtab and really like it. Once I get my desktop gtab holders, I will be even happier. I was interested in the a7 a few months back and consider it a real contender since they have a built in hdmi port. I know I could have used that port his past weekend while stuck in chicago. After getting the gtab and putting on tnt lite, no going back.
Btw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6foXW1zizM
Shows a hands on review of the Elocity A7 - same screen viewing angles?
only 4gb internal
I'd get it over the gtab if it had a higher Res screen. 800x480 isn't enough.
Looks pretty cool! The screen resolution is a little low, as is the internal memory. But you gotta envy the HDMI port. Our device might be able to do hdmi with a special cable someday soon, but who knows. Also, at a pound, it is not exactly a lightweight. I'm not sure how I would feel about a 7 inch after having the g tablet. There are times I wish our screen was a little bigger...like at the end of the day and my eyes are tired and I am trying to read this forum!
Same display issues as the g, but lower screen res. The advantage with the display is more native for current apps so almost all would work.
Catch is that based on reports, the Nvidia updates we have are not on the device, since Angry Birds apparently does not work. No market bridge yet either.
The issues we have with ports (bluetooth, mounting) and the accelerometer are apparently not an issue. Also, microsd mapping issues are not a factor, since apparently, the entire 4gb is for device app space (no internal sd space), so like the Advent, you need a micro sd.
If just 4gb, smart move mapping this way, since 3.6gb device space is about right. Not too much and not too little.
So far this is what I've gathered:
- viewing angle issue
- No true multitouch (only 1 +1 pinch as stated in eLocity website)
- Quandrant score: ~1800 (stock)
More info about this eLocity A7 posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872299
rushless said:
Same display issues as the g, but lower screen res. The advantage with the display is more native for current apps so almost all would work.
Catch is that based on reports, the Nvidia updates we have are not on the device, since Angry Birds apparently does not work. No market bridge yet either.
The issues we have with ports (bluetooth, mounting) and the accelerometer are apparently not an issue. Also, microsd mapping issues are not a factor, since apparently, the entire 4gb is for device app space (no internal sd space), so like the Advent, you need a micro sd.
If just 4gb, smart move mapping this way, since 3.6gb device space is about right. Not too much and not too little.
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My understanding is the screen is lower rez but seems the viewing angles are definitely better
I am after a Galaxy Tab but I keep switching between wanting a 10 inch and wanting a 7 inch. The thing is, I definitely prefer the screen size of the 10 inch. I saw someone on the train this morning with an iPad 2 reading a PDF on it and I could immediately see the advantage of the screen size for this. I have several technical PDFs which will be the first thing that I put on it.
However, I need to commute with this device and the 7 inch tablets seem far better due to their size and weight. They just seem more practical and I even question whether a 10 inch would fit in my bag (it should do but it'll be a tight squeeze). I've noticed that Adobe Reader has a text flow feature which seems to work reasonably well (but not perfectly) which helps with these large PDFs.
I suppose I am the only one that can really answer which one is best for me but I wondered if anyone went through a similar dilemma and what decision they made? Was it the right decision?
In a way, the 8.9 is probably the perfect compromise but they are way too expensive here in the UK. To qualify that statement, I can only afford a 10.1 by buying a manufacturer refurbished unit and there don't seem to be any 8.9 refurbs on the market.
you posted in a tab 7+ forum which is why you would mostly get biased anwers. anyways, i hate 10 inch tablets 'cause they're too big. but one time, i also considered buying the GTab 10.1. however, by reading the 10.1 forum, I've read a lot of negative feedbacks on how much it lagged, etc. Try visiting the General section of the GTab 10.1.
Also take a sneak peek at the GSMArena comparison here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4208&idPhone2=3894
Specifically look for the processor power. GTab+ has a Dual Core Exynos 1.2GHz while the GTab 10.1 only has a Dual Core Tegra 1GHz. You can also look around the web why Exynos is better and faster than Tegra 2. I think the only reason why Tegra is better is because of the Tegra Games which BTW can also be played on Exynos chipsets by using the Chainfire 3d app (FREE).
Now if size and weight matters, it would always boil down to your preferences. If you like heavy, expensive, large screen, not-so-thin tablets, buy the GTab 10.1. But if you adore the little, light, not-so-expensive, thin tablets, buy the GTab+.
You would be surprised how much this little thing can do for you.
Good luck!
10.1 isn't exactly expensive - since it's been around longer, you can find refurbs for less than the Tab Plus.
It's really a matter of preference - the Plus has a better CPU, the 10.1 has a better screen (higher resolution, larger size), although the "larger size" aspect of the 10.1 isn't always a positive.
I've never found my 10.1 laggy
Gunnzie said:
I am after a Galaxy Tab but I keep switching between wanting a 10 inch and wanting a 7 inch
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Honestly who didn't giggle and say in their head "THATS what she said..."
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I've been looking for a tablet with a screen size of 12inches+. Yet can't seem to find any.... (apart from the 13 inch one from Toshiba (Excite).
I am just wondering why it would be difficult to make an android tablet at this size (screen resolution issues in ICS, etc)? And wouldn't the Chinese manufacturers like to sell something like this (much higher profit margins, as Samsung, etc ain't making tablets this big).
LuciferAust said:
I've been looking for a tablet with a screen size of 12inches+. Yet can't seem to find any.... (apart from the 13 inch one from Toshiba (Excite).
I am just wondering why it would be difficult to make an android tablet at this size (screen resolution issues in ICS, etc)? And wouldn't the Chinese manufacturers like to sell something like this (much higher profit margins, as Samsung, etc ain't making tablets this big).
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Tablets were made to be portable. Making tablets of such sizes would eliminate that purpose. There are no compatibility problems, its just this being a fact. Sales on such tablets would not be high and this can be easily seen for Toshiba's Excite tab. Just look at it's sales compared to the Nexus 7 (the Nexus destroys it).
Non-ipads aren't selling all that well in general, and at that size the market would be marginal at best.
As Theon says, 11-12 inches probably pushes it in terms of portability.
You might be interested in this though: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/lenovo-wants-to-make-a-23-inch-tablet/
Hi all,
I have an Android tablet at the moment (Asus Memopad HD 7) and it has been a great little tablet however I'm on the lookout for a new, slightly bigger tablet. The reason being, I read a lot of medical books on it and the aspect ratio is not the most ideal. It gets the job done, but once I saw the 4:3 tablets by chance on Google Images, it was love at first sight.
I'm a fan of the Chinese tablets (Aoson, Hisense, Teclast, Chuwi, Pipo, etc) and am seriously considering importing one as I've bought a Chinese mini-PC (Vensmile IPC002) before and it's a pure joy to use (transformed my entertainment center).
Anyways, I digress. Here are the specs I would like (but will consider others, I know there's no such thing as a "perfect match"):
7.9" screen 4:3 aspect ratio (iPad mini style, etc)
2GB / 4 GB RAM
32GB RAM ( or more but no less) including a microSD card slot
Windows 10 (or 8.1) dual boot with Android (but a single Windows OS is fine too)
Cherry trail processor (again, will settle for Bay Trail but as a last resort)
GPS (highly preferred)
3G (not a must, but welcome)
Everything else is a bonus and not a deal-breaker.
The iPad Mini is absolutely wonderful but I cannot stand iOS. I'm well aware of the Samsung Tab S2 however not only is the price more than what I'm willing to spend, Android-only for that price is not a decent deal in my opinion, especially with the much cheaper dual-OS similar-spec (some even better) tablets out there.
I welcome all suggestions and/or recommendations.
Thank you in advance for any replies.
Edit: I meant to post this in the Q & A section! Can a mod please move it! Truly sorry!
You may take a look on Acer Iconia or take a look on here
http://www.cnet.com/topics/tablets/products/small-7-to-7-9-inches/