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Bionic is libc for Android. It's a target for optmization because most android programs call into Bionic (functions like memcmp, memcpy, strcmp, etc. are all there) - making bionic faster would improve the speed of a lot of other programs at once. So far, 10-50% improvement seen in microbenchmarks on the optimized version of these functions.
changelog:
version 1.0:
-initial release
-backport changes from gingerbread (switches to v6 atomic instructions, faster strlen)
version 1.1 updates: <--current version
-updated memset, memcpy, memcmp, strcmp, strchr, strcat, strcpy, memchr to faster, optimized versions w/neon or DSP instruction support where applicable.
version 1.1: http://www.nuerom.com/bionic/update-1.1.zip
old version 1.0: http://www.nuerom.com/bionic/update.zip
to restore back to the EC05 version, run:
http://www.nuerom.com/bionic/restore-ec05.zip
Most likely it'll only work on something close to EC05, but I haven't really tested.
benchmark with 0xbench - http://code.google.com/p/0xbench/ (libmicro) to see improvements.
you'll need a bunch of binaries installed for libmicro, i've compiled them and provided an update.zip here that will automatically install these for you: http://www.nuerom.com/bionic/libmicro.zip
Is this the same guy who rocked my wm 6.1 with his awesome mods?
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Dude, you need to totally help out on the CM7 port for the Epic. Hell, what you're doing could go into the main CM7 git repo.
Simply awesome man and keep up the awesome work!
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Is this the same guy who rocked my wm 6.1 with his awesome mods?
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It is.
Holy crap.
Welcome no2chem O:
This is promising,now we have a couple more devs in the epic corner.
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With what I read of you and your return to the scene with a focus towards the epic, I see great things to come. Maybe someone could drop no2chem a dump of the nexus s 4g rom, I know someone that reads this could probably make that happen . Happy development felllas!
sent from "The Other Woman"
So do u go to ucsd?
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This is also working just dandy so far. I don't have any benchmarks to back up any sort of substantial performance gains, but I'm sure the few tweaks you're doing here and there will add-up to a very nice user experience improvement. I have noticed that after this as and the davlik patch were applied, the interface seemed to be much more fluid and smooth without any annoying pauses you sometimes get due to scheduling.
So again, thanks no2chem and definitely keep up the badass work, mi amigo!
No issues so far, running for about 7 hours...
Thanks, no2chem. I loved your WM work.
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So do u go to ucsd?
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no2chem going to a school that specializes in chem?
Test driving this too!
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It is.
Holy crap.
Welcome no2chem O:
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Holy crap is right! This guy was KING back in the days of the TP2 (the last time I was privileged enough to own a device he was developing for). He actually seemed to disappear for a while (web page and from forums) so glad to hear he/she is alright and ready to produce some more amazing work. I am suddenly VERY OPTOMISTIC just knowing a great dev is on the task, particularly one that's been dealing with such intricate coding/mods (dude found a way to get extra memory available by disabling the camera, in a way that made the phone HUGELY more useful! For just one example...)
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Bionic is libc for Android. It's a target for optmization because most android programs call into Bionic (functions like memcmp, memcpy, strcmp, etc. are all there) - making bionic faster would improve the speed of a lot of other programs at once. In fact, it's at the heart of the idea that drives the greendroid project: http://greendroid.ucsd.edu/ which aims to implement libc in very power-efficent conservation core (c-core) hardware. While we can't do exactly implement new hardware, we can attempt to improve the speed of our device by backporting the latest updates to bionic to our devices running older versions of Android, and also optimize Bionic in other ways.
I'd imagine this project requiring several parts:
1) The first part is to figure out how to compile bionic and update libc.so on our phones. It's actually not a trivial task as the exports in AOSP version of bionic differ slightly from the version on our phones... Fortunately I was able to fix that by implementing the missing two exports (they were syscalls).
2) Backport changes from the master bionic tree into our bionic while maintaining the same interface to applications. Fortunately, libc doesn't change much, and they've mainly been adding new functions to bionic instead of changing old ones - I've backported most of the changes now.
3) Figure out which functions are slowing the system down and could be improved. This will probably require some profiling to figure out which parts of libc android spends the most time in.
4) See if there's other places we can take optimized functions from. Some canidates include glibc, the linux kernel, and the implementation in ARM's RVCT.
I've done 1-2 do far. I can't really tell if there's a performance change, but it seems to boot okay on my stock EC05 ROM. There's an update.zip posted at
http://www.nuerom.com/bionic/update.zip
Most likely it'll only work on something close to EC05, but I haven't really tested.
It seems that some string functions were optimized, at least one (strcmp, i think?) was replaced with an assembly version that was 10x faster, and some bugs that caused atomic locking code to be suboptimal were fixed).
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Well look who came out of the wood work! no2chem, long time no see. Been awhile since the Vogue days. I didn't even know you had a Epic or even left M$ for that matter!
No2Chem = Epic community ftw! I loved your WM ROMs.
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I have to unfortunately say that I have not used your previous work but by the sounds of it your a very talented dev and I'm extremely happy to see you here! I am very interested in this "GreenDroid" project and will definitely keep updated on it! Best of luck with your developments, it seems as everyone says so far so good. Thanks again and I can't wait til there's a really noticeable performance increase!
Sincerely,
D3luSi0n4L
No2chem check your PM's please
Awesome work
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No2chem check your PM's please
Awesome work
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I highly doubt he will join ACS Robert, he has his own team he works on and his own site.
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I highly doubt he will join ACS Robert, he has his own team he works on and his own site.
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Lol. I bet he is trying to have him help with tv out. Which that would be awesome.
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I highly doubt he will join ACS Robert, he has his own team he works on and his own site.
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You know what they say about assumptions...
**UPDATE 29 MAY**
CM7-RC3 and CM7 nightly 20120527 both work with the March 2012 baseband and have much higher outgoing volume! I'm not sure the issue I opened on the tracker had any part in this, but thanks to all who helped anyways! Your support was very much appreciated.
As CM7-based ROMs sync to the newer source, I am sure that they too will be fixed.
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I'm converting this thread into a Call to Arms! If you are frustrated with the low microphone volume on anything based on CM, please visit the thread on CM's issue tracker to leave your comments and "star" the issue. This is NOT an attempt to flood their thread with meaningless garbage. My intent is to let the CyanogenMod team know that this issue is very real and annoying. I think I can speak for most of us in saying that CM is a blessing to the Android world and that we mean no disrespect. My sole intent is to not let this issue get swept under the rug as it has in the past.
If you have a minute, please leave comments both here AND on the issue tracker to ensure this gets taken care of in due time. Please be respectful with your comments, but share your experience with the team in order to let them know that you are affected. Thank you all for your support with this issue.
r4d14n7 said:
This project is hereby abandoned by me. I don't have the knowledge, and I don't have the time to learn. If someone else wants to pick this up, I left a fair amount of documentation and research here in the thread and I will be available through PM if you have any questions. The best thing you can do right now is check the official bug report on CM's Issue Tracker, star it and maybe leave a comment or two. Sorry to let you guys down, but I pushed as many buttons as I'm capable of pressing at this point in time. Hopefully RC can figure this one out.
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*Update again* I hit a wall and am not savvy enough to know where else to look. I submitted this bug to the issue tracker on CM's google code site here: http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=5190
Feel free to head over there and "star" it to get updates. I really hope they will help us out. Thanks for the support guys. Going to give them a little bit and see where it takes us.
*Update* Changed thread title for clarity. In the process of trying to unpack/edit/repack a kernel to increase the volume of the microphone. Lucky for me, it's mostly scripts.
Let me start this thread out by saying that I am not a developer, coder, github user, etc. Yes, I'm a noob when it comes to all things coding.
Alright. I searched and searched and searched some more for the commit on CyanogenMod's github. I found it.
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/a042d3bba7dc7d563ef58dfd2b0811722d924f86
I *think* this is the patch that caused the low microphone volume since October of last year. It could be one of its parent patches, but it's related. This commit is also included in CM's ICS branch, which could be causing the low microphone volume issue that some of us have been experiencing for so long.
I went to edit that file so I could try to fuddle my way through a build (which I've never done before) but I couldn't find the actual file in the github. Was this file removed? Are input volumes adjusted somewhere else now? I'm spoiled by our developers and would love it if someone would try reverting this patch if it's possible. Anyone else feel the same?
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Update! bassmadrigal from the CyanogenMod staff helped me locate the microphone volume values. They are in the /sys/devices/platform/star_wm8994/data file. Using an older CM7 (167) build, I was able to modify the volumes until the phone reboots. I tested the voice quality by calling my own voicemail since the volumes can be different while in a call.
Having done this, I flashed a newer CM9 build. The values at the specific registers in that file are indeed different on CM9, but I was unable to modify them. Any modifications to that file via root explorer or adb were ineffective. I even went so far as to delete the file completely, but it was regenerated within seconds. There is some kind of built-in security (either in Android 4.x itself or CM9) that prevents manipulation of this file, and others I'm sure.
Does anyone know of a way to manipulate this file?
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Update! bassmadrigal from the CyanogenMod staff helped me locate the microphone volume values. They are in the /sys/devices/platform/star_wm8994/data file. Using an older CM7 (167) build, I was able to modify the volumes until the phone reboots. I tested the voice quality by calling my own voicemail since the volumes can be different while in a call.
Having done this, I flashed a newer CM9 build. The values at the specific registers in that file are indeed different on CM9, but I was unable to modify them. Any modifications to that file via root explorer or adb were ineffective. I even went so far as to delete the file completely, but it was regenerated within seconds. There is some kind of built-in security (either in Android 4.x itself or CM9) that prevents manipulation of this file, and others I'm sure.
Does anyone know of a way to manipulate this file?
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You're a legend man! Thanks for chasing this issue.
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From what I'm told, this file is actually part of the kernel. And I know nothing about any of this stuff. Is there anyone who knows how to modify and build their own kernel from source of whom I could ask some questions? I browsed around on Faux's github, but I seriously have no idea what I'm looking at.
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You're a legend man! Thanks for chasing this issue.
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Man, I'm just trying to get the ball rolling on this ignored bug. I guarantee if I can fix it myself, I will definitely share.
Oh man, I hope this leads to the bug getting fixed. I love MIUI and CM, but the low mic volume has forced me to go back to using stock.
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Oh man, I hope this leads to the bug getting fixed. I love MIUI and CM, but the low mic volume has forced me to go back to using stock.
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I'm no kernel dev, but I'm still working on it. Hopefully I'll be able to get this issue resolved.
Edit: And by working on it, I mean asking kernel devs if they could build a test kernel with these changes included.
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I'm no kernel dev, but I'm still working on it. Hopefully I'll be able to get this issue resolved.
Edit: And by working on it, I mean asking kernel devs if they could build a test kernel with these changes included.
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Good luck to you sir!!!
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Lol, I just can't stop thanking. I was so happy to see that I wasn't the only one (thanks mt3g for your empathy there) to notice this annoying issue in CM based ROMs, when I've opened a thread the other day:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538240
IMHO, for some reason this bug just never got enough attention.
So, I'm crossing my fingers.
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Oh definitely, it just seemed to get shoved under the rug like it never happened a bunch of people in Baldwin guy cm7 thread stated it a bunch and it never got any attention if the OP can point someone in thebright direction after he does a bunch reading and reaching out to people then it can get resolved. It is honestly the only "bug" in cm7 that I hate. A bunch of people said they just switched ril's to fix it but I don't think so, I've done plenty of recording and what not with voicemails and I can easily tell between 2.3.3 to cm7 and found a build that was around 150ish
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Oh definitely, it just seemed to get shoved under the rug like it never happened a bunch of people in Baldwin guy cm7 thread stated it a bunch and it never got any attention if the OP can point someone in thebright direction after he does a bunch reading and reaching out to people then it can get resolved. It is honestly the only "bug" in cm7 that I hate. A bunch of people said they just switched ril's to fix it but I don't think so, I've done plenty of recording and what not with voicemails and I can easily tell between 2.3.3 to cm7 and found a build that was around 150ish
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Almost all of the old CM7 builds are still hosted here: http://goo.im/cm/p999/nightly but for some reason the 170's are missing. Haha...
I agree with you on it being the only thing I hate about CM7/9.
Anyway, another update for you guys. I found a guide on how to unpack the kernel and ramdisk from boot.img so I can modify this file, then repack it. Downloading Ubuntu now. Going to install it in a Virtual Machine and see if I can do this. Might take me a bit though. I'm a busy guy
Well, I was able to unpack the kernel and split it into the kernel and ramdisk. The ramdisk contains the "sys" directory, but it's empty. I can't find the file that I need to modify. Maybe it's in the kernel part of the split.
I would just like to say thank you.
And I wish I could help!
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So if it's based in the kernel, do other kernels face this problem?
I'm using CM7.2 with faux kernel and haven't noticed low speaker volume.
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I'll take a look at it when I get the chance.
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So if it's based in the kernel, do other kernels face this problem?
I'm using CM7.2 with faux kernel and haven't noticed low speaker volume.
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Low mic volume is the issue. Speaker volume is fine.
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Low mic volume is the issue. Speaker volume is fine.
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Yea sorry that's what I meant, I haven't had complaints about that but maybe I'm just loud.
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redmonke255 said:
Yea sorry that's what I meant, I haven't had complaints about that but maybe I'm just loud.
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Record your self on a stock based rom or leave a voice mail its very noticeable, speaker phone is almost pointless while on cm7/9 you set the phone down 2 feet from your face and they can't hear you practically it sounds like you're whispering.
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Record your self on a stock based rom or leave a voice mail its very noticeable, speaker phone is almost pointless while on cm7/9 you set the phone down 2 feet from your face and they can't hear you practically it sounds like you're whispering.
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You're absolutely right mt3g, speakerphone is horrible. And I'm typically kind of a "chin talker" who lets the phone drift down away from the mouth. If I pay attention to holding the phone up further in front of my mouth and speak firmly, I can usually get heard alright on the other side, but I'm used to phones in the past picking up a lot better, and sometimes I need to speak softly if my kids are napping, etc.
FYI, this is my test environment (to eliminate variables):
Always call voicemail to perform the tests, because the input volume can change from just using a voice recorder app to actually in a call.
I play the same part of the same song at the same volume with my phone in the same position every time.
Just nandroiding back and forth between stock/early CM7/late CM7/CM9, there is a major difference.
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So if it's based in the kernel, do other kernels face this problem?
I'm using CM7.2 with faux kernel and haven't noticed low speaker volume.
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If I'm not mistaken, custom kernels designed for CM7/9 are based on the original CM7/9 kernels. Regardless, I have personally verified this issue exists with faux's and morfic's kernels.
Any change a developer could do a mod to add the Galaxy Nexus navigation buttons to the screen? I for one don't like the physical home button and would really like the screen buttons. If the unoffical AOKP rom had the standard AOKP custom nav button mod I would be all over it but seeing how it's unofficial/alpha and the CM10 roms are very alpha I'd rather wait. Based on the info I found it's relatively easy mod if you know how to decomplie and recompile the framework-res.apk. I attempted to do this but kept running into issues and my limited knowledge of Android development (to say the least) seems to be the biggest huddle.
IMO, I'd still like the native button active but others would prefer them disabled.
Here a thread on the mod for CM9/CM10... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788780&page=1
Thanks!
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Any change a developer could do a mod to add the Galaxy Nexus navigation buttons to the screen? I for one don't like the physical home button and would really like the screen buttons. If the unoffical AOKP rom had the standard AOKP custom nav button mod I would be all over it but seeing how it's unofficial/alpha and the CM10 roms are very alpha I'd rather wait. Based on the info I found it's relatively easy mod if you know how to decomplie and recompile the framework-res.apk. I attempted to do this but kept running into issues and my limited knowledge of Android development (to say the least) seems to be the biggest huddle.
IMO, I'd still like the native button active but others would prefer them disabled.
Here a thread on the mod for CM9/CM10... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788780&page=1
Thanks!
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It won't work on the stock ROM. But it works in CM10, I have it on my phone and am loving them. Just like my old Nexus.
I know the mod in the link I provided will not work on the stock rom. Thanks for your most value input and stating what is outright obvious for the mod in the link. No reason a developer couldn't create a mod that does work with the stock rom though. Already using a few mods on my stock rom.
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I know the mod in the link I provided will not work on the stock rom. Thanks for your most value input and stating what is outright obvious for the mod in the link. No reason a developer couldn't create a mod that does work with the stock rom though. Already using a few mods on my stock rom.
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There might actually be a reason. The framework is totally different.
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There might actually be a reason. The framework is totally different.
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Of course the framework is different, one is TouchWise and one is CM9/CM10 but that has absolutely nothing to do with a developer modifying the stock TW framework-res.apk with this mod. Why do users who have no clue keep adding their useless 2 cents? I now understand why the developers get so frustrated and the development forum in highly moderated!
Here a new thread to shows how to do this mod on any ROM. If I had the experience of decompling/compling apks or time I would do it.
http://thetechjournal.com/how-to/tutorial-how-to-use-on-screen-virtual-buttons-at-ice-cream-sandwich-rom-on-android.xhtml
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Of course the framework is different, one is TouchWise and one is CM9/CM10 but that has absolutely nothing to do with a developer modifying the stock TW framework-res.apk with this mod. Why do users who have no clue keep adding their useless 2 cents? I now understand why the developers get so frustrated and the development forum in highly moderated!
Here a new thread to shows how to do this mod on any ROM. If I had the experience of decompling/compling apks or time I would do it.
http://thetechjournal.com/how-to/tutorial-how-to-use-on-screen-virtual-buttons-at-ice-cream-sandwich-rom-on-android.xhtml
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lol, someone who has no clue yelling at someone he thinks has no clue about clueless 2 cents. Being an asshole is a really great way to get people to do things for you, I've heard.
Im dont know why anybody wants onscreen buttons? Yea the nexus had them and thats fine. But with 2 capacitive buttons and a hardware button, why have nav buttons that do the same thing? All its does is take up screen space no?
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Im dont know why anybody wants onscreen buttons? Yea the nexus had them and thats fine. But with 2 capacitive buttons and a hardware button, why have nav buttons that do the same thing? All its does is take up screen space no?
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I agree with this. I have figured out how to get them and I've been using it for a day or so now. I don't like it. I thought I would, but I don't.
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Im dont know why anybody wants onscreen buttons? Yea the nexus had them and thats fine. But with 2 capacitive buttons and a hardware button, why have nav buttons that do the same thing? All its does is take up screen space no?
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I hate the physical home button and much prefer the on-screen buttons.
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I hate the physical home button and much prefer the on-screen buttons.
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why?
droidstyle said:
why?
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Because I'm used to capacitive buttons, it's clunky to use a physical button, and depressing the button off-balances the whole phone if you're using it one-handed.
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Because I'm used to capacitive buttons, it's clunky to use a physical button, and depressing the button off-balances the whole phone if you're using it one-handed.
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I totally agree!
It's funny how people think that because they don't mind the physical home button that everyone else should feel the same way. The screen is big enough that I don't mind losing a little space. Give me a "touch" home button and task list button that I don't have to wait 2 seconds for...
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Because I'm used to capacitive buttons, it's clunky to use a physical button, and depressing the button off-balances the whole phone if you're using it one-handed.
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To each is own...i would much rather have more screen. However if they designed this device like the nexus with only nav buttons, then that would be ok. I just dont like the idea of having multiple buttons that do the same thing.
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lol, someone who has no clue yelling at someone he thinks has no clue about clueless 2 cents. Being an asshole is a really great way to get people to do things for you, I've heard.
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Whatever! It's the same BS that the developers get upset over. People who have no clue making useless statements that do nothing for the cause. It's a waste of space and time...
I could be wrong but I thought all ICS and JB frameworks have the vitual navigation button code, it just a matter of enabling it. See the second link I posted...
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I totally agree!
It's funny how people think that because they don't mind the physical home button that everyone else should feel the same way. The screen is big enough that I don't mind losing a little space. Give me a "touch" home button and task list button that I don't have to wait 2 seconds for...
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I dont expect anybody to feel the same way...I was simply wanting to know why he didnt like hardware button.
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Whatever! It's the same BS that the developers get upset over. People who have no clue making useless statements that do nothing for the cause. It's a waste of space and time...
I could be wrong but I thought all ICS and JB frameworks have the vitual navigation button code, it just a matter of enabling it. See the second link I posted...
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You "Totally agree" with the guy in one post and then call him clueless in another. A guy who has been part of xda since 2007 and has 1000 more thanks than you do. Be civil
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You "Totally agree" with the guy in one post and then call him clueless in another. A guy who has been part of xda since 2007 and has 1000 more thanks than you do. Be civil
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I don't see why agreeing with someone preference for something and calling them out regarding a statement that seems clueless has anything to do with each other. Unless he knows for a fact that the Touchwiz ICS framework-res.apk has been stripped of the navigation button code (not just disabled) his comment was clueless... Having a 1000+ posts does not make someone an expert and if he knows for a fact then he should have said the TW ICS framework has been stripped of the navigation bar code...
There are plenty of opinions on the value of the mod. The original thread link I posted seemed to suggest there are a lot of people who want this. This thread so far may not support that for US users... Oh, well... If there is no dev that wants to do this mod then I guess I'll wait for a stable release of AOKP where I can modify/add buttons too...
Thanks!
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I know the mod in the link I provided will not work on the stock rom. Thanks for your most value input and stating what is outright obvious for the mod in the link. No reason a developer couldn't create a mod that does work with the stock rom though. Already using a few mods on my stock rom.
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As I said in my post, "it won't work on the stock ROM". The support for it is just not there in TouchWiz. You can modify the framework-res.apk if you want (I've tried), but it just won't work. If you want on screen navigation keys, you'll need to get onto CM/AOSP.
Here are my reasons for preferring nexus style on-screen buttons:
1. I no longer have to overextend my thumb to press the menu button when holding the device with one hand. Usually this results in my palm hitting something on the screen unintentionally.
2. Once frustrated with #1, I will tilt the device down (increasing the chances of dropping the phone) to be able to successfully press the menu button. With on screen buttons I no longer have to do this.
3. If 1&2 are not an option I am forced to use 2 hands to control the device. With on screen buttons this is no longer so.
4. I will no longer accidentally press menu or back while playing a game in landscape mode.
5. I will no longer accidentally tap something on the bottom edge of the screen when attempting to press the back or menu button. Because it is a far stretch, part of my thumb will often interact with the lowest point of the screen before interacting with the back or menu button.
The slogan for this device shouldn't be "Designed for humans" but rather "Designed for gorilla hands".
If possible, I would also like to see on screen buttons on touchwiz.
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As I said in my post, "it won't work on the stock ROM". The support for it is just not there in TouchWiz. You can modify the framework-res.apk if you want (I've tried), but it just won't work. If you want on screen navigation keys, you'll need to get onto CM/AOSP.
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Ok, thanks for the update and clarifying the the ICS framework has been stripped of the code for the onscreen navigation buttons. Really too bad but CM and AOKP are both coming long nicely...
Preface :
Well i know that its too early to call android 5.0 keylimepie and all (or is it ? ) but just for the time being let it be so the title says the rest
Aim :
To let people post there wishes on what Google should alter or add into the latest and greatest version of their mobile operating system when it comes out some time next year !
Aftermath :
Nothing no Google employees are ever gonna see this but we'll get to know what people are expecting which may help us better judge KLP when it comes out
Well i have a long list of wishes too but i need a physical keyboard to type em all out so I'll edit this post with my wishes are soon as i reach home
Wait ....
Are there similar threads ? - no worries just report and delete this one - i mean no offense just wanted to gather more info from a creative discussion
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To be honest it is unlikely it will be called key lime pie i am saying that because of what many users have found in the jelly bean easter egg looks more like kandy kane or something similar
im what Willis was talking about
My first wish is please change the name other than key lime pie... If sounded repeatedly it feels like some chinese words or something. lol.
i wish google could reduce the OS battery consumption.
dailyliar said:
My first wish is please change the name other than key lime pie... If sounded repeatedly it feels like some chinese words or something. lol.
i wish google could reduce the OS battery consumption.
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Then your probably in luck as there are reports of Google introducing project road runner which is aimed at increasing overall battery life
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sharingan92 said:
Then your probably in luck as there are reports of Google introducing project road runner which is aimed at increasing overall battery life
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Yes i heard about it before, but i haven't search about it until you mention it.
It would be great if android smartphones can last 1-2 days longer with daily usage.
My wish would be to make all the worth while apps FREE for everyone for a day"only joking?". Would like to see more apps for photosphere to work along side with. Would like to see all the advertising removed from all apps. I would like more interactive ideas with say tv that works flawlessly and not so much fuffing around, 'dear me im sounding like an applesaurus!!" And yeah Roadrunner sound the business I'd like that, kinda smooth and chill out name!!!!
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dailyliar said:
Yes i heard about it before, but i haven't search about it until you mention it.
It would be great if android smartphones can last 1-2 days longer with daily usage.
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Don't think there is anything Google can do to increase battery life beyond a certain extent - oem's must come up with some sort of innovation !
nikufellow said:
Don't think there is anything Google can do to increase battery life beyond a certain extent - oem's must come up with some sort of innovation !
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im sure that if project butter + road runner + THIS will work out pretty well for battery issue, don't you think?
dailyliar said:
im sure that if project butter + road runner + THIS will work out pretty well for battery issue, don't you think?
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Lets hope so !
I want app data sync (that works) so I can play a game on my tablet and continue on my phone
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Since they have a new "Chrome" (really some other alloy) statue at MountainView, maybe it'll be called Khronium. Android 5.0 Khronium sounds so cool xD.....but yea it'd break the dessert line...but maybe it'll be so epic it HAS to break the usual naming convention.
I want to see these features:
Root Access choice by default
Lockscreen Customization by default
Group MMS by default
A more Gesture based interface like Ubuntu...(xD copying isn't so bad >.> ) or at least a new UI that has the different Settings, and such, much more consolidated to reduce the need to press this, then that, then this, then back to that.
Google Play Music upgraded to include basic and advanced music features, as extensive as the Sony Walkman app for example and built into the Stock ROM with full voice controls like Samsung's music app
Stock file manager with root access
Revamped and fully functional Google Docs integrated into the OS completely.
Full Desktop Experience when docked would be cool.
Features that are more outlandish:
Insta-Porting. Instantly port the latest AOSP version of Android to any device. (rofl yea to the right)
Posted by Habarug: I want app data sync (that works) so I can play a game on my tablet and continue on my phone
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Yea, that's a great idea!
pass giousas
Better keyboard layout...commas are hidden away and I can't remember the number of times I accidentally clicked "Go" when trying to press the backspace key.
Yes yes yes there is a version for Verizon gs3 available in case you have not seen.
I would have brought along some screen shots....but I don't think Ubuntu would let me :/
Anyways
I know my opinion is irrelevant because you guys do not care and the build is currently the definition of " Not a daily driver"
However,
One can still understand the flow and mechanics of the layout.
I use my phone for everything. Quickly moving from one app to another.
In this sense, Ubuntu flows like a river in how to navigate through the apps and home pages. Everything was smooth and no lag any where.
I did find a draw back to the easy access though.
Because of all the swipes in different locations at different times and the multiple spots to pull down different sections of the notification bar, you find your self
Being as clumsy as a new born giraffe while navigating.
Also, because hard ware keys are broken. I found my self somewhere but lost. It would take me a minute to get where I needed to go only because I just didn't know how to get there haha
Coming from touch wiz and an AOSP ROM here and there... Ubuntu almost seems childish?
The layout makes me feel like an old man picking up a smart phone for the first time.
The colors and theme remind me of a day care.
Haha I know all of this is purely theme as not everyone will be happy with it.
But the idea and creativity into this is purely AMAZING.
One of the most refreshing (ROM?) I have used.
I will be coming back when it is daily qualified and might even think that day would be donation worthy
Side notes:
If you are thinking about flashing. DO it.
It was fun until I realized there is no WiFi or network.
Most Apps open but don't work
No settings?
Can't turn screen off?
Lock screen was only a picture I believe?
Did not seem to be interactive yet.
random contacts and media in there. I believe it was for the demo purposes only.
But get
Hey, after one day of release. Phantom already had it out.
Seriously put a smile on my face.
Let me know what you guys think.
Try not to be a **** on this forum.
If after reading this and you just absolutely hate me, PM me about it instead.
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Is it available for Verizon GS3. Can you please provide the link.
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rajkumard said:
Is it available for Verizon GS3. Can you please provide the link.
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I'd love to provide the link. But I am sure it is against the rules somewhere to share links to other peoples work whom do not have it posted on xda.
It is available at roots wiki for the Verizon galaxy s3.
Sorry guys :/
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Isn't it based on CM? Thought I read that on Twitter. Pretty cool for them.
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bobAbooE said:
Isn't it based on CM? Thought I read that on Twitter. Pretty cool for them.
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I believe so. The file clearly has cm in the name Haha so it would make sense
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It's not based on CM, from what I understand it requires that to be installed first to get this booting on our phones. The CM file is only about 50mb.
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It's not based on CM, from what I understand it requires that to be installed first to get this booting on our phones. The CM file is only about 50mb.
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Yeah well it is a two part flash kind of lay out. And I believe that xda wrote an article about this.
Check the portal and read what they had to say.
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It's definitely different and original, which I like. Hard to get a real feel for it since it's basically a non-working demo at this point. Lots of swiping all over the place to do everything. But it looks pretty clean and has some cool features like the favorite apps bar and easy app switching/multitasking.
for people asking about the link, it is on rootzwiki forum.
Saw an article on this and knew it would be posted about here. Not ready to try it out myself just yet. But I do like the idea and will be watching. Unfortunate that they put out a semi-functional build with flaws such as these but it's understandable.
I am definitely excited to see this up and running.
Make it so number one!
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Saw an article on this and knew it would be posted about here. Not ready to try it out myself just yet. But I do like the idea and will be watching. Unfortunate that they put out a semi-functional build with flaws such as these but it's understandable.
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Builds for the GS3 variants is just a developer preview, I'm guessing we won't see a solid functional build for any device until the source code drops which will probably be around the same time the Ubuntu phone is announced/released. Truly unique experience, lots of swiping and great for multi tasking which I do a lot of. Wasn't too thrilled with the dock system but I suppose it's worth getting use to. The ability to dual boot ubuntu touch/android will be the selling point for most ppl.
Shibby87 said:
Builds for the GS3 variants is just a developer preview, I'm guessing we won't see a solid functional build for any device until the source code drops which will probably be around the same time the Ubuntu phone is announced/released. Truly unique experience, lots of swiping and great for multi tasking which I do a lot of. Wasn't too thrilled with the dock system but I suppose it's worth getting use to. The ability to dual boot ubuntu touch/android will be the selling point for most ppl.
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Do you have any idea when the Ubuntu phone is going to be ?
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barrackOBAMA said:
Yes yes yes there is a version for Verizon gs3 available in case you have not seen.
I would have brought along some screen shots....but I don't think Ubuntu would let me :/
Anyways
I know my opinion is irrelevant because you guys do not care and the build is currently the definition of " Not a daily driver"
However,
One can still understand the flow and mechanics of the layout.
I use my phone for everything. Quickly moving from one app to another.
In this sense, Ubuntu flows like a river in how to navigate through the apps and home pages. Everything was smooth and no lag any where.
I did find a draw back to the easy access though.
Because of all the swipes in different locations at different times and the multiple spots to pull down different sections of the notification bar, you find your self
Being as clumsy as a new born giraffe while navigating.
Also, because hard ware keys are broken. I found my self somewhere but lost. It would take me a minute to get where I needed to go only because I just didn't know how to get there haha
Coming from touch wiz and an AOSP ROM here and there... Ubuntu almost seems childish?
The layout makes me feel like an old man picking up a smart phone for the first time.
The colors and theme remind me of a day care.
Haha I know all of this is purely theme as not everyone will be happy with it.
But the idea and creativity into this is purely AMAZING.
One of the most refreshing (ROM?) I have used.
I will be coming back when it is daily qualified and might even think that day would be donation worthy
Side notes:
If you are thinking about flashing. DO it.
It was fun until I realized there is no WiFi or network.
Most Apps open but don't work
No settings?
Can't turn screen off?
Lock screen was only a picture I believe?
Did not seem to be interactive yet.
random contacts and media in there. I believe it was for the demo purposes only.
But get
Hey, after one day of release. Phantom already had it out.
Seriously put a smile on my face.
Let me know what you guys think.
Try not to be a **** on this forum.
If after reading this and you just absolutely hate me, PM me about it instead.
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I would love to test once they work out some more bugs.