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Hi all,
I have been trying to find information about this particular feature. I know of a similar feature on the iPad 1 & 2, where Keynote can be used to project a presentation on an external monitor whilst being controlled by the iPad etc. via a connection add-on (VGA or HD output)
Is there any mention or does anyone know of support for a dual monitor setup using the HDMI out port or even the micro-USB port?
I ask because this is a feature I would love to see but I'm not interested in the iPad because of the usual 'Jobs' approach and besides, the Xoom has way better specs in comparison.
Many Thanks,
Craig
what, you mean mirroring the xoom's display over hdmi? That's there by default..
You can watch a movie on the xoom and tv at same time not sure about video on tv control on xoom but I assume that it could happen
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patass said:
what, you mean mirroring the xoom's display over hdmi? That's there by default..
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I think mirroring was a bit of an off term, I think I probably meant like a dual monitor support similar to that of a computer.
This is the iPad doing the "dual monitor" style I am trying to desrcibe
www [DOT] youtube [DOT] com/watch?v=GysMfb4_79A
Hope that clears my question up a bit better.
There was an article on Engadget recently about a new Android app that allowed that. I don't remember the name though. It was probably commercial app.
I dont see why you wouldnt be able to use any standard HDMI splitter like this http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10113&cs_id=1011301&p_id=5418&seq=1&format=2
Magnesus said:
There was an article on Engadget recently about a new Android app that allowed that. I don't remember the name though. It was probably commercial app.
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I shall have a look on there later thanks for your input
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I dont see why you wouldnt be able to use any standard HDMI splitter like this www[DOT]monoprice[DOT]com/products/product[DOT]asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10113&cs_id=1011301&p_id=5418&seq=1&format=2
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I don't want to split the signal from the Xoom, I'd like to create a second monitor similar to a computer dual monitor approach, like a second desktop if you will, where the Xoom would be a presentation controller and the HDMI Out signal would serve as the presentation itself, instead of duplicating the Xoom homescreen, where you could hold your finger on a part of the Xoom Screen and then on the output, a red dot like a laser would appear.
The idea is to offer a second screen, not mirroring the Xoom where you could create presentations, plug into a projector, and have the Xoom turn into a controller where you could preview upcoming slides, and then the outputted image, at the same time, would show the presentation full screen.
you can use a micro HDMI to HDMI and go directly to your projector or TV and it mirrors automatically. You can control everything from your tablet just fine.
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guitarwiz said:
Hi all,
I have been trying to find information about this particular feature. I know of a similar feature on the iPad 1 & 2, where Keynote can be used to project a presentation on an external monitor whilst being controlled by the iPad etc. via a connection add-on (VGA or HD output)
Is there any mention or does anyone know of support for a dual monitor setup using the HDMI out port or even the micro-USB port?
I ask because this is a feature I would love to see but I'm not interested in the iPad because of the usual 'Jobs' approach and besides, the Xoom has way better specs in comparison.
Many Thanks,
Craig
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Idisplay in the market
still no cigar...
I think that many people did not quite understand what the OP was asking. He/she wants to hook up an external monitor to the Xoom and display a different image on the monitor as compared to the Xoom itself. On a Windows machine it would be called extended desktop. The iDisplay software does the opposite: it uses the Xoom as a second display.
Maybe someone else uses Lenovo ThinkPad laptops. You have a presentation mode there where, for example, you can see your PowerPoint presentation on a projector but the laptop screen will show the timeline, notes, and other useful options.
This option would be useful not only for PowerPoint presentations but also for watching movies from the Xoom on an HDTV but having the Xoom display turned off to save battery.
Not that this directly helps the OP but maybe someone else has any idea if there's a software for that need.
I get it, encase you want to watch two different porn0 flix at the same time. Nice...
I was thinking whether is possible to switch XOOM display off during watching the movie thru the HDMI. It could save battery. Anyone any idea whether it coould be possible?
Thanks
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Idisplay in the market
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iDisplay would make the Xoom an extended desktop monitor for the PC and like funnycreature pointed out, the OP wants to use a secondary monitor for the Xoom instead.
Besides even if you wanted to use the Xoom as an external monitor for the PC (which I would actually like to do) iDisplay wouldn't be the way to go. After reading the reviews of the app it's not even close to being worth the $5 price tag. One person said that it will work on the Xoom, but is so slow it's pretty much unusable.
I plugged the tablet into a Samsung LCD TV and it doesn't seem very clear.. sort of grainy ..lost quality.. am I missing a setting somewhere? It looks OK don't get me wrong but an HDMI connection I expected to be a lot crisper.
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csmall said:
I plugged the tablet into a Samsung LCD TV and it doesn't seem very clear.. sort of grainy ..lost quality.. am I missing a setting somewhere? It looks OK don't get me wrong but an HDMI connection I expected to be a lot crisper.
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I believe this too. i have a 1080p tv and it outputs to 720p which is fine but it is a bit grainy and the screen blinks alot when trying the youtube app as well.
surely it depends on what you are trying to view ....
Its anything I view. Its just lossy. Even idle at the main screen. I just thought it would be crisper. Its not terrible or anything.
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I believe this too. i have a 1080p tv and it outputs to 720p which is fine but it is a bit grainy and the screen blinks alot when trying the youtube app as well.
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you sure its not mirroring the TF's resolution?
Do you have to resize the output on the samsung ? All my samsung TVs look way better through VGA than HDMI with computers. FYI I dont own a EEE im just a TV geek.
Also make sure you plug it in the DVI labelled port on the Samsung.
if its a samsung set the screen size to just scan ........ that any better?
The issue at present I believe is that the HDMI out at present is showing at the same resolution as the screen even if it is a 1080p file. This will alledgedly be sorted in a future update.
What does hdmi out do on the transformer, is it full desktop mirroring or only used by some apps?
currently it will always output 720p, asus has stated it will be fixed in a future update.
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What does hdmi out do on the transformer, is it full desktop mirroring or only used by some apps?
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Its full mirroring, so what ever you do on the tablet is mirrored on the TV.
I use Skype quite often, and I recently acquired an HDMI cable and I noticed an issue with HDMI plugged into my tv, I want to see the person I'm talking to on TV, but it shows myself on the tv, I kinda want the opossite, also I've had problems with the TV viewing the full android screen, help is appreciated. Thank you
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I dont have answers to your questions but...
I think you get some cropping on android becuase the resolution of the TV and the tablet are different. If you go full screen with apps(video players) they actually pump out the 1080p resolution. Test it out... Fire up youtube search for 1080p and play it. On the tablet the little window where the video normally is but on the TV the correct 1080p resolution is played.
Check if your TV has the option for turning off overscan. If it has you will able to see the full android display on your tv without any cropping. My tv doesn't have it T_T, but I did tried on a TV that does and it worked.
Yea, that seems to be a tv issue since i tried with a different tv and it worked, but what about the skype issue, anyone have any ideas?
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I've notice different things that the TF300, TF200, and TF100 are able to do that the TF700 cannot:
Built-in bluetooth support for PS3 controllers Fixed in JB
HDMI out issues: HDMI over DVI does not work. Also, the TF700 is missing the HDMI menu option called "scaling". Both are fixed in JB
unable to lock the navigation bar Fixed in JB
can't change the mouse pointer shape it's in a different place - under asus customized setting
I hope these are addressed soon, since they appear to be software issues. The DVI issue is particularly troublesome as it prevents me from replacing my laptop. I have a theory that the HDMI driver in the TF700 doesn't implement the protocol that the monitor relies on to determine resolution.
I'll keep this list updated.
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I've notice different things that the TF300, TF200, and TF100 are able to do that the TF700 cannot:
Built-in bluetooth support for PS3 controllers
HDMI out issues: HDMI over DVI does not work. Also, the TF700 is missing the HDMI menu option called "scaling."
I hope these are addressed soon, since they appear to be software issues. The DVI issue is particularly troublesome as it prevents me from replacing my laptop. I have a theory that the HDMI driver in the TF700 doesn't implement the protocol that the monitor relies on to determine resolution.
I'll keep this list updated.
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Isn't scaling unnecessary because of the native 1080p resolution?
Noticed also the ability to lock the navigation bar below is missing. I used it a lot when I had the Prime for games and watching movies and letting my 5 year old play with my tablet without accidentally hitting buttons. Missing it. Hopefully they bring that back with the new JB coming soon.
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jdeoxys said:
Isn't scaling unnecessary because of the native 1080p resolution?
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I don't want it to scale 1080p on my 1920x1200 monitor.
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I don't want it to scale 1080p on my 1920x1200 monitor.
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Your monitor may have a setting in its' on screen menu to disable or control its' own automatic scaling. For example, my monitors have a setting called Aspect Control which I can set to 1:1 to prevent stretching a lower resolution video signal.
I noticed that mouse pointer options in the settings menu is missing, on my prime I would use the blue ring as a pointer instead of the black mouse because it was easier to see
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Yeah I miss the native PS3 controller over bluetooth. I guess sixaxis will have to do.
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Dachande said:
I noticed that mouse pointer options in the settings menu is missing, on my prime I would use the blue ring as a pointer instead of the black mouse because it was easier to see
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Those settings are still there on my TF700.... Settings->Asus Customized Settings (Touchpad/Mouse). You don't have those settings on your TF700??
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allan1313 said:
Yeah I miss the native PS3 controller over bluetooth. I guess sixaxis will have to do.
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This is my biggest complaint, too. Other than that, I'm pretty happy. Hopefully this'll get ported over with the JB update.
No lock bar.
Wifi Direct connects but doesn't work. (might as well not be there)
No Face Unlock
When Dock connected it doesn't actually show that it's charging with the >> lit up. Also, my dock seems to drain while the TF700 drains. Only way I can tell it's charging is by looking at orange button on top of Infinity.
Would have been nice to have HDMI options when connected, although on a 1080 it doesn't need it (but it does have extra pixels)
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Also, my dock seems to drain while the TF700 drains.
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The dock charges the tablet and will keep the tablet charged to a certain level until it is completely discharged.
I am missing all of these features too.. especially the hdmi options. Can anyone get their tf700 to output actual 1920x1200? I have monitors that are that res and it still only outputs 1920x1080! I can't find any way to change this but I would like to find a work around or some way to set the config in the tablet to output native res only.
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I am missing all of these features too.. especially the hdmi options. Can anyone get their tf700 to output actual 1920x1200? I have monitors that are that res and it still only outputs 1920x1080! I can't find any way to change this but I would like to find a work around or some way to set the config in the tablet to output native res only.
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As of now the software on the TF700 will ONLY output 1920x1200 resolution. Unless you have a monitor/tv that can adjust the input itself and downscale it then no you can't use it. I don't know of any android apps out there that allows this to happen at this time.
Bring back the native PS3 already! !!!!
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neo1738 said:
As of now the software on the TF700 will ONLY output 1920x1200 resolution. Unless you have a monitor/tv that can adjust the input itself and downscale it then no you can't use it. I don't know of any android apps out there that allows this to happen at this time.
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It doesn't make me a sandwich or transport me back to my spaceship. Dammit Asus! Slackers...
neo1738 said:
As of now the software on the TF700 will ONLY output 1920x1200 resolution. Unless you have a monitor/tv that can adjust the input itself and downscale it then no you can't use it. I don't know of any android apps out there that allows this to happen at this time.
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That is not true!! I want to see someone with a native 1920x1200 lcd that has it connected to the infinity at native resolution!! It will only output 1080 on vertical resolution. I have tried several 1920x1200 native monitors and even bought a brand new one for $300+ and it will not fill the entire screen no matter what. I want video proof of this claim-- someone, anyone, have a native 1920x1200 monitor that they can hook up to an infinity and use the monitor's menu to display the current resolution as 1920x1200?
There may be no apps that currently support that resolution but the launcher and other infinity screens should run at native res.
Word to the wise neo- test it before answering. You need a monitor that will support the native res... not very many monitors out there run at that resolution natively.
MattZTexasu said:
I've notice different things that the TF300, TF200, and TF100 are able to do that the TF700 cannot:
Built-in bluetooth support for PS3 controllers
HDMI out issues: HDMI over DVI does not work. Also, the TF700 is missing the HDMI menu option called "scaling"
unable to lock the navigation bar
can't change the mouse pointer shape
I hope these are addressed soon, since they appear to be software issues. The DVI issue is particularly troublesome as it prevents me from replacing my laptop. I have a theory that the HDMI driver in the TF700 doesn't implement the protocol that the monitor relies on to determine resolution.
I'll keep this list updated.
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Bluetooth support is there, get the sixaxis app its better than the default support anyways, lets you customize screen touches, etc. and set different profiles for different games.
HDMI over DVI does not work on newer devices because it costs manufacturers LESS to have the security / id profile included in their HDMI devices. Basically, when you plug in a device over HDMI the two devices talk to each other and set up a sort of security protocal. DVI does not have this and a lot of legacy devices do not have this which is why DVI to HDMI works but barely. You also have this problem with MHL adapters for your samsung phones, some MHL adapters support this newer profile, some do not. Those that do not don't work with some TV's. Just do your research and make sure the tech your connecting is compatible. Its like saying "My truck doesnt run on electricity! Why do i have to use gas?"
Scaling was needed when the HDMI signal being transmitted was lower resolution than 1080p. Since were transmitting a full HD signal there is no need to scale. Its already 1:1. No need to choose between upscaling or sending a smaller resolution and having it stretched or having it windowed or whatever. That is like asking why you get no money back when you buy your morning coffee and give the person exact change. I dont understand why so many people complain theres no scaling feature when if you stop to think about it you realize its a useless feature on this tablet.
Lock the navigation bar would be nice. Its about the only "feature" i can tell were missing.
Mouse pointer shape can be changed. I forget where the setting for it is, someone posted it on the forum here somewhere, mines currently the circle instead of the pointer. You can also root into the tablet and change what image it uses. Theres a thread about it somewhere....
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Bluetooth support is there, get the sixaxis app its better than the default support anyways, lets you customize screen touches, etc. and set different profiles for different games.
HDMI over DVI does not work on newer devices because it costs manufacturers LESS to have the security / id profile included in their HDMI devices. Basically, when you plug in a device over HDMI the two devices talk to each other and set up a sort of security protocal. DVI does not have this and a lot of legacy devices do not have this which is why DVI to HDMI works but barely. You also have this problem with MHL adapters for your samsung phones, some MHL adapters support this newer profile, some do not. Those that do not don't work with some TV's. Just do your research and make sure the tech your connecting is compatible. Its like saying "My truck doesnt run on electricity! Why do i have to use gas?"
Scaling was needed when the HDMI signal being transmitted was lower resolution than 1080p. Since were transmitting a full HD signal there is no need to scale. Its already 1:1. No need to choose between upscaling or sending a smaller resolution and having it stretched or having it windowed or whatever. That is like asking why you get no money back when you buy your morning coffee and give the person exact change. I dont understand why so many people complain theres no scaling feature when if you stop to think about it you realize its a useless feature on this tablet.
Lock the navigation bar would be nice. Its about the only "feature" i can tell were missing.
Mouse pointer shape can be changed. I forget where the setting for it is, someone posted it on the forum here somewhere, mines currently the circle instead of the pointer. You can also root into the tablet and change what image it uses. Theres a thread about it somewhere....
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So your answer to this thread about features we are missing was to tell us that you are not missing the features... save 1... then discount the need for features that others find useful and needed??? Nice post.
Scaling is needed on any device that may need to output to a different resolution than what the device is at natively.... not like asking for money back when getting exact change... pretty bad analogy. Saying there is no use for this function is silly. There may be no use for you, but many others out there would love that option and I think you are in the minority of users who think it is useless. A more tactful way to approach that would have been to ask if there was a reason that people need it. I can say without a doubt that it is a feature that I am asked about frequently since I support a large number of these tablets. I have had very little luck getting hdmi output to be reliable and compatible with full size monitors. The suggestion on the first page to set the ratio to 1:1 is no help since most monitors do not have that option... it is the monitor's default mode already and starts in that mode.
A couple of things you wrote are wrong.
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HDMI over DVI does not work on newer devices because it costs manufacturers LESS to have the security / id profile included in their HDMI devices. Basically, when you plug in a device over HDMI the two devices talk to each other and set up a sort of security protocal. DVI does not have this.
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You are referring to HDCP. DVI does support HDCP. Both monitors I tested with are HDCP enabled and work fine with other HDCP devices over the same HDMI-DVI adapters that I used to test the TF700 with. Here is an informative article http://tv.about.com/od/hdtv/a/hdmidvihdcp.htm. You have to have a really old display not to support HDCP.
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Scaling was needed when the HDMI signal being transmitted was lower resolution than 1080p. Since were transmitting a full HD signal there is no need to scale. Its already 1:1.
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A scaling setting is needed for connecting the TF700 to a 1200p display. I have yet to experience this; but I've read that the TF700 will scale 1080p up to 1200p. It would be better if it did 1:1 on 1200p monitors. see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31420239&postcount=8
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Mouse pointer shape can be changed. I forget where the setting for it is, someone posted it on the forum here somewhere, mines currently the circle instead of the pointer. You can also root into the tablet and change what image it uses. Theres a thread about it somewhere....
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This may not be wrong; but it would be a lot more helpful if you provided the location or at least a link to the thread. You might as well be wrong about this too.
The TF101 had 2 speakers, and although there were issues with the balance it was nice to not muffle a speaker when stood it up in my lap in portrait mode.
Not a tablet feature, but the TF101 dock had 2 USB ports.
So I have the tf700 tablet and an Iphone, are there any apps that let me controle my tablet through my phone? For instance if I watch youtube I can switch video and stuff, not just pause. Would be really awsome if I could controle the whole interface with my phone but I doubt that is possible.
Now, this makes me really curious: How do you use your tablet that you want to use your phone as a remote???
I usually have it in my hand, on my lap - somewhere in arms reach definitely...
Do you hang your tab on the wall across the room? You definitely have better eyes than I do, dude
LOL
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berndblb said:
Do you hang your tab on the wall across the room? You definitely have better eyes than I do, dude
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A 10" tablet with HDMI can be connected to a projector to produce a 100" picture on the wall across the room. No need for eagle eyes.
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A 10" tablet with HDMI can be connected to a projector to produce a 100" picture on the wall across the room. No need for eagle eyes.
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I've done that a few times to give a presentation. You still don't need to use your phone as a remote for that, though...
what is so hard to understand? I want to switch between youtube videos while my tablet is connected to my tv, instead of getting my ass of the couch I want to do this on my phone, which happens to be an iphone, thus my problem.
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If you have a jailbroken iphone look for WeBe++ in cydia. It turns the phone into a mouse track pad, keyboard, and ps3 controller. It works over wifi or even better, bluetooth. The app is also available for non jailbroken phones in the app store as just WeBe. I have never used this version but it seems like maybe it would only work over wifi at the time and I wanted the versatility of bluetooth. I use it when hooking the tablet to the television to watch movies.
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If you have a jailbroken iphone look for WeBe++ in cydia. It turns the phone into a mouse track pad, keyboard, and ps3 controller. It works over wifi or even better, bluetooth. The app is also available for non jailbroken phones in the app store as just WeBe. I have never used this version but it seems like maybe it would only work over wifi at the time and I wanted the versatility of bluetooth. I use it when hooking the tablet to the television to watch movies.
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according to the description this app doesn't support android, only mac and pc, which is normal to understand and there are other better apps for this controlling mac and pc purpose
btw it's rated 3 stars https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/webe-bluetooth-mouse/id348874608?mt=8
@OP: i don't think there's an app for this,
I doubt such an app exists, cobsidering tjat Apple wont let anything even so much as referencing to Android near them... (there is a hilarious topic in General about them censoring even the word Android in the comments on their appstore... :laugh: )
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Like I said. I have never used the version in the Apple App Store. I know that version doesn't have as much access to the iphone system as the jailbroken version does. But when I use it on my jailbroken phone, the phone acts just like the track pad on the infinity's keyboard dock. Mouse pointer and all.
That reminds me, all that battery and work is a bit overkill since you can also simply use a wireless mouse comnected to the keyboard dock. ...
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