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I'm making the transition from my old Droid X to the VZW Galaxy S3, and I have a few questions. The flashing process between these two phones are quite different and perhaps another ex-Droid X user (or just an all around knowledgeable person) could help me out.
1. To my knowledge, we were never able to flash Kernels on the Droid X because of its locked bootloader. So how does Kernel flashing work? Are there certain kernels that only pair with certain roms, or can you flash any kernel you like with any rom? I have a feeling it's the former, as I've already seen kernels categorized i.e. Touchwiz Kernels or CM10 based kernels.
2. With the Droid X, all roms were flashed using CWM. But with this phone that's not always the case right? Some may require a kexec method or even a custom recovery image, correct?
3. I've seen a few roms recommend backing up IMEI / MEID / EFS data before flashing. Is something I should consider doing whenever I flash, just as one would do a nandroid backup?
4. I've seen a few threads mentioning flash count, resetting flash count, etc. Should I be concerned with flash count? If so, why?
5. With the Droid X, before you could flash a rom, you had to make sure the firmware you were on was compatible with whatever rom you were trying out. For example, if you wanted to try cm7 you had to flash over the stock froyo kernel. If you wanted to try miui you had to flash over a stock gingerbread kernel. However, it would seem, with the S3 you can flash any rom (whether it be an ics rom or a jb rom) over stock 4.0.4. Is this correct? Can you flash an ics rom over the top of a jb rom? Or do you always have to revert back to ics stock?
6. Is Odin the Samsung equivalent of rsd lite?
D-meist said:
I'm making the transition from my old Droid X to the VZW Galaxy S3, and I have a few questions. The flashing process between these two phones are quite different and perhaps another ex-Droid X user (or just an all around knowledgeable person) could help me out.
1. To my knowledge, we were never able to flash Kernels on the Droid X because of its locked bootloader. So how does Kernel flashing work? Are there certain kernels that only pair with certain roms, or can you flash any kernel you like with any rom? I have a feeling it's the former, as I've already seen kernels categorized i.e. Touchwiz Kernels or CM10 based kernels.
2. With the Droid X, all roms were flashed using CWM. But with this phone that's not always the case right? Some may require a kexec method or even a custom recovery image, correct?
3. I've seen a few roms recommend backing up IMEI / MEID / EFS data before flashing. Is something I should consider doing whenever I flash, just as one would do a nandroid backup?
4. I've seen a few threads mentioning flash count, resetting flash count, etc. Should I be concerned with flash count? If so, why?
5. With the Droid X, before you could flash a rom, you had to make sure the firmware you were on was compatible with whatever rom you were trying out. For example, if you wanted to try cm7 you had to flash over the stock froyo kernel. If you wanted to try miui you had to flash over a stock gingerbread kernel. However, it would seem, with the S3 you can flash any rom (whether it be an ics rom or a jb rom) over stock 4.0.4. Is this correct? Can you flash an ics rom over the top of a jb rom? Or do you always have to revert back to ics stock?
6. Is Odin the Samsung equivalent of rsd lite?
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1. Flashing kernels has been made as simple as flashing ROMs
2. kexec is outdated since the bootloader got unlocked. You can also still use CWM on this or there's another recovery that people like called TWRP (Download an app called EZ-Recovery from the play store, youll need it to flash any recovery)
3. Losing IMEI is a royal paiin in the arse, but it's rare. Either way you want to back it up. I believe the guide on how to do so is in the Development Forum.
4. I haven't tripped the flash count. Basically all it is is a way for Verizon to tell if you been f'in with your phone. I Believe that only AOSP/AOKP ROMs can trip it, not stock ROMS
5. It's a bit simpler flashing between ROMs on this phone. Just wipe data/factory reset and flash away. For the most part.
6. Yes it is basically.
Check the guide out in my sig, it'll explain how to do most everything in detail.
Brian Gove said:
1. Flashing kernels has been made as simple as flashing ROMs
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To Elaborate on this just a bit, yes it is as easy as flashing roms but you were correct in saying that there are aosp kernels and there are tw kernels. just make sure the os version (ICS, JB) and the framework (TW, AOSP) match your rom and you are good to go!
Relentless D said:
To Elaborate on this just a bit, yes it is as easy as flashing roms but you were correct in saying that there are aosp kernels and there are tw kernels. just make sure the os version (ICS, JB) and the framework (TW, AOSP) match your rom and you are good to go!
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Thanks Brian and Relentless. Going to cut my teeth on an easy TW rom for starters, probably Synergy.
D-meist said:
Thanks Brian and Relentless. Going to cut my teeth on an easy TW rom for starters, probably Synergy.
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If you are just getting your feet wet with tw roms, you might consider giving Bean's a try. I've been using Build 9 since it dropped and it's smooth.
imo, it's themed just enough to not look like a straight tw rom, the performance is great and the battery life is fantastic as well.
I've tried synergy once or twice and was never quite completely satisfied with it.
D-meist said:
Thanks Brian and Relentless. Going to cut my teeth on an easy TW rom for starters, probably Synergy.
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I haven't run CM or MIUI or any other AOSP ROM on this phone so take this with a grain of salt;
If you want cool stuff and constant bugs/lack of normal features go with the AOSP....
If you want some cool stuff and a nice stable daily driver... go with the TW ROMs. I've been running Synergy since 1.2(or 3 I cant remember lol) and I love it. Everything works on it, it's stable, and it's currently being ported to Jelly Bean so I can't wait for that shtuff. Eschelon and the rest of his team are good about listening to feature suggestions/requests too when they got time so more and more will be added.
Brian Gove said:
I haven't run CM or MIUI or any other AOSP ROM on this phone so take this with a grain of salt;
If you want cool stuff and constant bugs/lack of normal features go with the AOSP....
If you want some cool stuff and a nice stable daily driver... go with the TW ROMs. I've been running Synergy since 1.2(or 3 I cant remember lol) and I love it. Everything works on it, it's stable, and it's currently being ported to Jelly Bean so I can't wait for that shtuff. Eschelon and the rest of his team are good about listening to feature suggestions/requests too when they got time so more and more will be added.
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Relentless D said:
If you are just getting your feet wet with tw roms, you might consider giving Bean's a try. I've been using Build 9 since it dropped and it's smooth.
imo, it's themed just enough to not look like a straight tw rom, the performance is great and the battery life is fantastic as well.
I've tried synergy once or twice and was never quite completely satisfied with it.
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The moral of the story...Try out a few different roms What is amazing for one person might not be for the next. I'm flashing new roms every few days because I always want to see what else is out there.
Relentless D said:
The moral of the story...Try out a few different roms What is amazing for one person might not be for the next. I'm flashing new roms every few days because I always want to see what else is out there.
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Yea I had beans for a little while... I honestly cant remember why I switched. I was just suggesting he stick with the TW ROMs period cuz I dont feel the AOSP ROMs are anywhere near stable enough yet.
Don't want to hijack OP's thread, but do any of you know how to check flash counter?
I will be getting my FOURTH sg3 this week, and this is the first time I will be returning a phone that I had rooted/unlocked/rommed. I'm all back to stock, just want to make sure I don't get a bill for $600.
Kreeker said:
Don't want to hijack OP's thread, but do any of you know how to check flash counter?
I will be getting my FOURTH sg3 this week, and this is the first time I will be returning a phone that I had rooted/unlocked/rommed. I'm all back to stock, just want to make sure I don't get a bill for $600.
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haven't tried it but this is the best I've found searching around real quick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781471
Brian Gove said:
3. Losing IMEI is a royal paiin in the arse, but it's rare. Either way you want to back it up. I believe the guide on how to do so is in the Development Forum.
How "rare" is it to lose the IMEI after flashing? And is losing your IMEI a possibility flashing any ROM or just certain ones like CM10 or AOSP, or are TW and Stock roms susceptible to this as well?
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davefields3 said:
How "rare" is it to lose the IMEI after flashing? And is losing your IMEI a possibility flashing any ROM or just certain ones like CM10 or AOSP, or are TW and Stock roms susceptible to this as well?
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I honestly don't know. One of the devs for Synergy ROM said something to the effect its "a weird Samsung reboot code and so the phone automatically restores a bad backup of your IMEI. It's a fluke thing"
It's 100% random when flashing anything I believe.
If u use the synergy Rom to flash it automatically has a script to back up your meid number and stuff. I've flashed synergy official cm10 nightlies without a hitch. Just make sure that u obtain root and unlock the bootloader and flash recovery. Thus far I've had no problems. Btw synergy Rom is the best one out there. Jellywiz is a jb Rom it is awesome but only thing that doesn't work is sms at the present time. If u want to back up ur meid best tool to use is qpst just Google it. Also all in one tool that has been great for me unlocking obtaining root and stuff is Verizon gs3 casual tool. In order to use that tool u mist have java se framework which u can find at the java website. Any questions feel free to shoot me a message! Good luck!
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chrisharper9643 said:
If u use the synergy Rom to flash it automatically has a script to back up your meid number and stuff. I've flashed synergy official cm10 nightlies without a hitch. Just make sure that u obtain root and unlock the bootloader and flash recovery. Thus far I've had no problems. Btw synergy Rom is the best one out there. Jellywiz is a jb Rom it is awesome but only thing that doesn't work is sms at the present time. If u want to back up ur meid best tool to use is qpst just Google it. Also all in one tool that has been great for me unlocking obtaining root and stuff is Verizon gs3 casual tool. In order to use that tool u mist have java se framework which u can find at the java website. Any questions feel free to shoot me a message! Good luck!
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Just to clarify. Synergy is a stock tw based rom and CM10 is well a cm based rom. Two different monsters and roms entirely.
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U r right but both can be flashed the same way
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Brian Gove said:
3. Losing IMEI is a royal paiin in the arse, but it's rare. Either way you want to back it up. I believe the guide on how to do so is in the Development Forum.
How "rare" is it to lose the IMEI after flashing? And is losing your IMEI a possibility flashing any ROM or just certain ones like CM10 or AOSP, or are TW and Stock roms susceptible to this as well?
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I found this thread which looks like the Synergy guys made a script to backup IMEI. I gave it a go and was succesful in backing it up. Seemed much easier than the QPST method. Don't know if it will actually restore, but hopefully I'll never have to find out.
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I was looking at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2063058
I'm not sure which to flash as I don't know the difference. One is based off of LK3 and I don't know what that is. The other 2 I do know, CM 10 or 10.1. Could anyone explain or suggest which is good to try? I am currently only rooted and not using any ROMs.
Please inform yourself! The kernel is the communicator between the hardware and software. It is imperative you flash a kernel designed for your device/rom!
If you're on Stock, you'll want one labeled TW (or TouchWiz). Make sure you download the JB (Jelly Bean) version. LK3 is the radio baseband of the phone. You can check in Settings > About Phone then last 3 digits of Baseband Number.
Based on the information you've said, I'd recommend looking into LeanKernel or 747. Hope I've helped. All the info you need is on this site, just gotta read it. GL
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And backup your imei if you haven't
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sweeds said:
Please inform yourself! The kernel is the communicator between the hardware and software. It is imperative you flash a kernel designed for your device/rom!
If you're on Stock, you'll want one labeled TW (or TouchWiz). Make sure you download the JB (Jelly Bean) version. LK3 is the radio baseband of the phone. You can check in Settings > About Phone then last 3 digits of Baseband Number.
Based on the information you've said, I'd recommend looking into LeanKernel or 747. Hope I've helped. All the info you need is on this site, just gotta read it. GL
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Thanks and informing myself is exactly what I'm doing! I don't want to screw anything up. Currently, I only plan on flashing a kernel which is why I wanted a backup of the stock kernel that comes with the phone just in case anything stupid happens. I'll check out leankernel and 747. Thanks!
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I was looking at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2063058
I'm not sure which to flash as I don't know the difference. One is based off of LK3 and I don't know what that is. The other 2 I do know, CM 10 or 10.1. Could anyone explain or suggest which is good to try? I am currently only rooted and not using any ROMs.
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You got the first step right, and that's asking questions if you don't understand.
sweeds said:
... LK3 is the radio baseband of the phone. ...
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Not entirely. When talking about official (or leaked) Service provider (and phone) specific builds of Android, they're each given a build number.
The latest "build" of Jelly Bean 4.1.1 from Verizon for the SGS3 has a build identifier of VRBLK3. That covers everything from the stock kernel, to the stock ROM, to the version of the radio for that particular build (you can apply any radio to any other build without an issue, though).
Since the LK3 build is the latest official from Verizon, that's the base (not baseband - 2 different things) that most of the custom verizon roms are built off of. (latest = greatest, at least sometimes ).
As sweeds points out, there are two main "strains" of Android (for us samsung guys). The first is based off of Samsung's take on Android with their tweaks, features, etc and that's called TouchWiz (TW).
The other is Android built straight from Google, without any of the Samsung proprietary stuff. It's called AOSP (Android Open Source Project). ROMs like CM, ParanoidAndroid, AOKP, are based on AOSP code.
You cannot mix and match AOSP and TW kernels and ROMs, which is why you'll have the choice of downloads that your initial question addressed. Most developers will release a version of what they code for each version of Android. Things will go bork if you flash a TW kernel on an AOSP ROM and vice versa.
sweeds said:
Based on the information you've said, I'd recommend looking into LeanKernel or 747. Hope I've helped. All the info you need is on this site, just gotta read it. GL
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I wouldn't knock KOR - I've been having good luck with it (TW) on both GalaxyMOD and Synergy....
bobAbooE said:
And backup your imei if you haven't
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+1 Do this. (see here for how: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852255 )
letinsh said:
You got the first step right, and that's asking questions if you don't understand.
Not entirely. When talking about official (or leaked) Service provider (and phone) specific builds of Android, they're each given a build number.
The latest "build" of Jelly Bean 4.1.1 from Verizon for the SGS3 has a build identifier of VRBLK3. That covers everything from the stock kernel, to the stock ROM, to the version of the radio for that particular build (you can apply any radio to any other build without an issue, though).
Since the LK3 build is the latest official from Verizon, that's the base (not baseband - 2 different things) that most of the custom verizon roms are built off of. (latest = greatest, at least sometimes ).
As sweeds points out, there are two main "strains" of Android (for us samsung guys). The first is based off of Samsung's take on Android with their tweaks, features, etc and that's called TouchWiz (TW).
The other is Android built straight from Google, without any of the Samsung proprietary stuff. It's called AOSP (Android Open Source Project). ROMs like CM, ParanoidAndroid, AOKP, are based on AOSP code.
You cannot mix and match AOSP and TW kernels and ROMs, which is why you'll have the choice of downloads that your initial question addressed. Most developers will release a version of what they code for each version of Android. Things will go bork if you flash a TW kernel on an AOSP ROM and vice versa.
I wouldn't knock KOR - I've been having good luck with it (TW) on both GalaxyMOD and Synergy....
+1 Do this. (see here for how: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852255 )
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Somehow I missed this response so I just read it and wanted to say thanks for the very detailed explanation! I finally ROM'd this phone yesterday and I have Hyperdrive RLS7 running with Galaxy KOR kernel. I haven't had any issues at all yet and the battery life definitely seems better even with the OC'd processor. I also started using SPB Shell 3D since this phone seems powerful enough to run it completely smoothly versus some old phones I had where I had some reservations about that.
Hey guys, I have had a Bionic for the past 18 months or so....forgive me if my questions sound silly....
Recently, I was given a S3 to use. Before I take the plunge and get it activated, I was tryign to learn about the ROMS etc out there.
- I see there are TouchWiz ROMS and AOSP roms. I'm assuming the TouchWiz ROMS are based on stock rom just tweaked and debloated and teh AOSP ROMS are the ones built from scratch?
- I see there are kernels around....same, AOSP and TW. Is it safe to assume if I use AOSP, I need to get an AOSP kernel? If I install for example the latest Liquidsmooth....do I have to do the kernel 1st? or does the ROM have the kernel built in?
- Do I have to unlock the bootloader? Or is that what the kernel does?
Again, sorry for the dumb questions....my Bionic was simpler to do...with less options....
Thanks in advance
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Hey guys, I have had a Bionic for the past 18 months or so....forgive me if my questions sound silly....
Recently, I was given a S3 to use. Before I take the plunge and get it activated, I was tryign to learn about the ROMS etc out there.
- I see there are TouchWiz ROMS and AOSP roms. I'm assuming the TouchWiz ROMS are based on stock rom just tweaked and debloated and teh AOSP ROMS are the ones built from scratch?
- I see there are kernels around....same, AOSP and TW. Is it safe to assume if I use AOSP, I need to get an AOSP kernel? If I install for example the latest Liquidsmooth....do I have to do the kernel 1st? or does the ROM have the kernel built in?
- Do I have to unlock the bootloader? Or is that what the kernel does?
Again, sorry for the dumb questions....my Bionic was simpler to do...with less options....
Thanks in advance
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1. AOSP is the original Android OS untouched by any company. Touchwiz is Samsung's version Android.
2. You don't need a custom kernel but it can optimize your phone for increase in battery life.
3. All ROMs have kernels built-in they have to or else it won't work .
4. You must unlock the boot loader in order to flash anything.
Gotcha..!
Thank you!
So is it safe to assume, you flash ROM 1st, then you flash kernel? At 1st glance, I like the Liguidsmooth ROM, but people are also raving about the KT747 kernel. SO I would have to flash his AOSP version...
I have seen some radios also...Is that advisable to do?
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1. AOSP is the original Android OS untouched by any company. Touchwiz is Samsung's version Android.
2. You don't need a custom kernel but it can optimize your phone for increase in battery life.
3. All ROMs have kernels built-in they have to or else it won't work .
4. You must unlock the boot loader in order to flash anything.
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Yes that is correct but you must first root your phone. The bionic had a larger margin of error when it came to rooting.
Yes, 1st thing I'm going to do is root and unlock the bootloader....
One last Q...
I see people are having GPS lock issues on some ROMs (eg Liquidsmooth), compared to stock. Would that be a kernel type off issue? Would updating the kernel to the KT747 fix this?
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Yes that is correct but you must first root your phone. The bionic had a larger margin of error when it came to rooting.
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It is a ROM issue so the devs have to make a fix for it.
It has been a long day of researching on unlocking my aunts SGH-T959W . I have finally finished rooting the phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956025
My phone has the following status atm:
Firmware:2.3.6
Build no.: Gingerbread.WUQL86
kernel: 2.6.35.7-blastoff-v2
Blastoff does not detect any network signal, and hence I have to install another ROM
However, I am having a bit problem making a decision which ROM to install, since this is not even my phone and I am not sure.I was looking at this list http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/List_of_ROMs
Basically I just want a stable ROM for her phone, and something fast.
One thing particularly confusing is, how can I install ICS kernels into a Gingerbread ROM, that is just not compatible. And if you guys can provide links that would be useful, THANKS ! :laugh:
With blast off kernel you can flash any ics or jb roms. Ics is solid except for wifi calling and the battery won't go for days...maybe one day. Jb needs some work still gps doesn't work and wifi is broke on 4.2.2. If you're after something stable and wifi calling isn't a deal breaker go with any ics and proton kernel. O and the latest cm9 has broken video but proton kernel fixes it.
I can vouch for CM9 with the Proton kernel. Ultragen is supposed to be good too. If the JB ROMs haven't got GPS and WiFi working when I get The Urge, I'm trying that combo.
Btw, Google Voice works for WiFi calling. It doesn't show as the cell phone number at the recipient's phone tho.
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4.1.2 is jellybean and WiFi works on that actually it all does now except for gps and 4.2.2 is the one with the borked WiFi
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TwitchyEye said:
With blast off kernel you can flash any ics or jb roms. Ics is solid except for wifi calling and the battery won't go for days...maybe one day. Jb needs some work still gps doesn't work and wifi is broke on 4.2.2. If you're after something stable and wifi calling isn't a deal breaker go with any ics and proton kernel. O and the latest cm9 has broken video but proton kernel fixes it.
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Thanks, so I was looking at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/Installing_a_ROM
in the upgrade/downgrade path section, it says I have to go CM9 to upgrade, am I am still in GB (MTD) or (BML) ? And why is I can't find blastoff kernel in the list. What I am confused about is how can I get proton kernel in CM9, in the list it doesnt seem to have it in the list. Okay wait is this what you mean, go to follow the instructions of flashing to CM9, then flash to CM10 ,slim bean 3.1 or paranoid andriod 2.99
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I can vouch for CM9 with the Proton kernel. Ultragen is supposed to be good too. If the JB ROMs haven't got GPS and WiFi working when I get The Urge, I'm trying that combo.
Btw, Google Voice works for WiFi calling. It doesn't show as the cell phone number at the recipient's phone tho.
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Thanks for the response, so if custom ROMS still have problem should I just go back to the stock ROM, and if I go to the Stock ROM would I lose my rooting ? .What will be the pros and cons in this case ?
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4.1.2 is jellybean and WiFi works on that actually it all does now except for gps and 4.2.2 is the one with the borked WiFi
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Ahh I don't need gps xD.
There are some interface changes going from gb to ics I like. Valhalla Black and CM7 were the, two GB ROMs I used other than stock, and I liked them both for different reasons.
Usually I try a different ROM because the one I'm on flakes due to a bad app, sun spots or sumthin'. If I gotta wipe and reflash, I figure may as well try something new.
I miss swype and the office app from the stock ROMs, but I like the overall experience better with the custom ROMs.
From a security standpoint, you really have no idea if the devs can be trusted, but that's not to say SAMSUNG or Google are implicitly trustworthy either. Just saying... For that matter, having private info on a smart phone isn't probably the most secure idea either. You pick the risks you find acceptable.
One of those risks is taking on the tech support for a phone you don't own
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Oh, and I believe unlocking and rooting are two totally different things. The former relates to being able to use other service providers and the later gives more access to the device's software 'innards'.
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meekazhu said:
Thanks, so I was looking at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/Installing_a_ROM
in the upgrade/downgrade path section, it says I have to go CM9 to upgrade, am I am still in GB (MTD) or (BML) ? And why is I can't find blastoff kernel in the list. I am still confuse
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It's probably because our wiki is outdated. Forgive us.
What matters is the version of cwm that you're using. Blastoff has 5.0.xx I forget which exact version is in the kernel. Anyway then you should be good to go. I'm not sure you still have to go to cm9 first. I think all our roms have the right stuff to take you from blastoff to wherever.
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There are some interface changes going from gb to ics I like. Valhalla Black and CM7 were the, two GB ROMs I used other than stock, and I liked them both for different reasons.
Usually I try a different ROM because the one I'm on flakes due to a bad app, sun spots or sumthin'. If I gotta wipe and reflash, I figure may as well try something new.
I miss swype and the office app from the stock ROMs, but I like the overall experience better with the custom ROMs.
From a security standpoint, you really have no idea if the devs can be trusted, but that's not to say SAMSUNG or Google are implicitly trustworthy either. Just saying... For that matter, having private info on a smart phone isn't probably the most secure idea either. You pick the risks you find acceptable.
One of those risks is taking on the tech support for a phone you don't own
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Oh, and I believe unlocking and rooting are two totally different things. The former relates to being able to use other service providers and the later gives more access to the device's software 'innards'.
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Lol, I am just trying to save my aunts 20$, and also I get to learn something new. what method do u usually do to change custom roms is it flashing from CWM or is there a software ?. I have been really careful regarding what i do to the phone since yesterday as it is not my phone, that is why I have been asking all possible questions before starting anything . I know unlocking and rooting are two different things , but in order to unlock you need to root.
Ok so I am flashing to CM9 now , after that should flash to a different ROM, like CM10 or should I just stick to CM9 or move to Ultragen. blastoff is a battery drainer, i got up this morning it went from 100% to 30% O_O
TwitchyEye said:
It's probably because our wiki is outdated. Forgive us.
What matters is the version of cwm that you're using. Blastoff has 5.0.xx I forget which exact version is in the kernel. Anyway then you should be good to go. I'm not sure you still have to go to cm9 first. I think all our roms have the right stuff to take you from blastoff to wherever.
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okay cool .I am rewriting this question, i think it did not get updated in my previous response. What I am confused about is how can I get proton kernel in CM9, in the list it doesnt seem to have it in the list. Okay wait is this what you mean, go to follow the instructions of flashing to CM9, then flash to CM10 ,slim bean 3.1 or paranoid andriod 2.99
You'll be able to flash any MTD rom from any other MTD/BML rom. The problem will be going from MTD back to BML but you probably won't want to do that.
As was mentioned, you will need a kernel with CWM 5.x+. You can find the blastoff kernel if you go back a few pages in the development forum.
As for which ROM to install? I recommend Team Acid's AOKP (link in my signature) using the Proton ICS kernel (by beastmode). It's been a very stable combination for me.
FBis251 said:
You'll be able to flash any MTD rom from any other MTD/BML rom. The problem will be going from MTD back to BML but you probably won't want to do that.
As was mentioned, you will need a kernel with CWM 5.x+. You can find the blastoff kernel if you go back a few pages in the development forum.
As for which ROM to install? I recommend Team Acid's AOKP (link in my signature) using the Proton ICS kernel (by beastmode). It's been a very stable combination for me.
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what are the chances of me going back to BML rom, so once I upgrade to custom ICS based roms, I can flash different roms that are only related to ICS and JB, and not Gingerbread, since it a version behind? So if I went to CM9 , i can easily switch AOKP with proton ics kernel or ICBINB ?
Thanks FB , I followed your post for rooting it was really useful. Also I thought BML and MTD, are just file systems or type of mapping, why are they supported in kernel level and not ROM level?
I just bought a new Nexus 5. I love all the extra features custom ROMs come with, and I bought this phone because it has the best ROMs
How good are the various custom ROMs in terms of stability and battery life at present? Should I switch to a ROM rightaway or is it better to wait for better/more stable builds (the ROMs I'm considering are still in beta)?
Imho the best rom is purity for n5, stable and rock solid. For kernels there are a lot but i personally use faux
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Hello,
Please read the stickies before creating a new topic. ROM Comparison threads are not allowed here. You can head over to the development section and try the various AWESOME roms which have been developed and settle on the one which suits you the best!
I would reccomend you to stay stock for at least a few weeks so that you feel the stock experience for a while and then jump on to a custom rom as you will now have something to compare the custom rom with and the awesome feeling when you jump from stock to custom!
Almost all the custom roms which are there in the development section are stable enough to be used as a daily driver...
Just a friendly reminder that this thread is about the stability about custom ROMs, not which ROM's the best/better than...
Discussions about stability are ok, but please don't slide into "best ROM" discussions, or else I have to close this thread
Stock works very well. I would recommend you unlock the bootloader right away, then run stock for awhile. Rooted stock with xposed+ gravity box will get you just about anything a custom Rom will have.
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jd1639 said:
Stock works very well. I would recommend you unlock the bootloader right away, then run stock for awhile. Rooted stock with xposed+ gravity box will get you just about anything a custom Rom will have.
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The phone is already unlocked/rooted/running CWM. That's the first thing I did when I unboxed it. And I'm already looking into the xposed modules that would fit my requirements.
vin4yak said:
Hello,
Almost all the custom roms which are there in the development section are stable enough to be used as a daily driver...
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When you say "stable enough", does that mean there are still some minor issues I might encounter? Also, how would the battery life be compared to stock?
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When you say "stable enough", does that mean there are still some minor issues I might encounter? Also, how would the battery life be compared to stock?
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Yes there are... I'm on AICP and I get SODs once every 2-3 days... Because of the various CM patches and other stuffs, it sometimes breaks Tethering (although it is fixed by the dev the very next day)... Some other patch broke the lockscreen wallpaper on other rom...
I hope you know what I'm trying to say... These are just minor issues which occur when you flash custom roms and are ironed out by the dev within days... but they seem negligible when you get the awesome experience in using a custom rom...
What seems stable to one person may not to the next. And vice versa. We all use our phones different ways for different things. The only real way to know is read through the rom threads, starting from the last page and going backwards for latest comments and/or flash them and find out for yourself.
Thanks to nandroid backups and restores....going back to our good setup is easy if you don't like something.
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I would stay stock for now and test out all of the custom kernels and see which has the greatest impact on impoving your current battery life. As said before in other threads what works for one Nexus 5 may not be the same on another one. As for the rom I prefer using stock+xposed. The modules I use are: gravitybox, xHaloFloatingWindow (with Floatifications from the play store) and greenify.
The custom dishes by our chefs are all great! Those who have to ask should stay stock for a while!
Stay stock . There has been no need for custom roms for a while. Kk is great. Kernels are another matter. I'd concentrate on finding a good kernel. All the features you want on a rom can be got with Xposed framework and modules, ie gravity box
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The N5 has been out for a while, alot of awesome dev's has made roms. At this point, a custom rom is a must for the N5!
I would recommend PA for a stock experience or PAC for a all in one rom.
Thank you for the suggestions everyone.
I've had this phone for just a couple of days, so I won't rush into a custom ROM. Gravitybox and other xposed modules have most of the features and customisations I wanted, so I'll stick to stock for a while, and explore stock KK thoroughly. I might try out a few custom kernels though.