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I would like to help out with the Cyanogen 7.2 port to the Wildfire S but I can't post in the DEV forums even with 11 posts.
Am I being impatient or do I have more hurdles to hop just so I can be of use to the community?
I know I'm new here, and yes I read the reasoning for the 10 post rule, but it's silly and it's quite frustrating to somebody who not only understands how to read forum rules and etiquette, but also could be helping out with a great project but I'm held back because I must be a "noob"
BTW I know you mods think this isn't true but it really does force new users to have to "spam" in some way shape or form just to be able to help out in the developer forums. I didn't go around posting a bunch of useless junk but my posts would have been more useful and well thought out if they weren't aimed more or less as gaining my 10 count of posts.
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I agree. I'm in same situation and think this 10 post rule is really frustrating.
This is my first "spam" post
I believe that a moderator has to go over your posts, make sure they are valid and not spam (by spam I mean real spam, against forum rules, or just saying that you need ten posts) and then they'll move you from junior member to just "member", allowing you to post in development forums. They do this on a schedule, if I have read correctly. All of your posts seem legit, and you've helped out, so just wait it out.
In the meantime you can pm whoever you need to reach if it's applicable in your case. Good luck, and welcome to the forums!
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plainjane said:
I believe that a moderator has to go over your posts, make sure they are valid and not spam (by spam I mean real spam, against forum rules, or just saying that you need ten posts) and then they'll move you from junior member to just "member", allowing you to post in development forums.
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A user needs 30 posts to become a "member".
Regardless, the solution is still acceptable since cases such as yourself are rare. Happy XDAing however.
Has anyone ever noticed only people with less than 10 posts complain about this rule? You never see people that were stuck by this rule a few weeks ago say how it sucked, and was unfair.
You will see a lot of people with 100+ posts say that 10 posts isn't enough, but you never see anyone with more than 15 posts complain. I always found that interesting. Once people get over the hurdle, they start to feel less a n00b and notice all the n00bs that are so ignorant, and impatient, something they never were.
I agree with the rule, once you have some posts down, and get a feel for how these forums work you realize the rule is far from exorbitant. I think at about 25 posts people discover there is a search button, and at 50 posts they realize that most threads have more than one page, and there is actual useful content between post one and the last post.
If it were up to me it would be 20 posts, AND 30 days before you could open a new thread in a non-dev section, and 100+ posts before you can start a thread in a dev section. To post a reply to an open dev thread with 10 posts seems low, but acceptable.
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quarlow said:
Has anyone ever noticed only people with less than 10 posts complain about this rule? You never see people that were stuck by this rule a few weeks ago say how it sucked, and was unfair.
You will see a lot of people with 100+ posts say that 10 posts isn't enough, but you never see anyone with more than 15 posts complain. I always found that interesting. Once people get over the hurdle, they start to feel less a n00b and notice all the n00bs that are so ignorant, and impatient, something they never were.
I agree with the rule, once you have some posts down, and get a feel for how these forums work you realize the rule is far from exorbitant. I think at about 25 posts people discover there is a search button, and at 50 posts they realize that most threads have more than one page, and there is actual useful content between post one and the last post.
If it were up to me it would be 20 posts, AND 30 days before you could open a new thread in a non-dev section, and 100+ posts before you can start a thread in a dev section. To post a reply to an open dev thread with 10 posts seems low, but acceptable.
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That's almost exactly what I wanted to say , but I didn't want to lecture .
quarlow said:
Has anyone ever noticed only people with less than 10 posts complain about this rule? You never see people that were stuck by this rule a few weeks ago say how it sucked, and was unfair.
You will see a lot of people with 100+ posts say that 10 posts isn't enough, but you never see anyone with more than 15 posts complain. I always found that interesting. Once people get over the hurdle, they start to feel less a n00b and notice all the n00bs that are so ignorant, and impatient, something they never were.
I agree with the rule, once you have some posts down, and get a feel for how these forums work you realize the rule is far from exorbitant. I think at about 25 posts people discover there is a search button, and at 50 posts they realize that most threads have more than one page, and there is actual useful content between post one and the last post.
If it were up to me it would be 20 posts, AND 30 days before you could open a new thread in a non-dev section, and 100+ posts before you can start a thread in a dev section. To post a reply to an open dev thread with 10 posts seems low, but acceptable.
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Thanks for the lecture.
Granted there are, and always will be, people with far less than even half a brain. Far more are just plain lazy and don't know how to search google. People also like to break rules, or just not read / follow them in the first place, I know what you're saying.
The frustrating part is that I've actually spent many many hours on these forums, just never had anything to contribute - I know the ropes, I get the gist of what is going on and where posts belong / where they dont but I found it annoying nontheless.
Anyway I'm not here, as a new member, trying to change any rules - I was more or less wondering what else I had to do, and somebody kindly answered my question for me above so I thank you for that.
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That's almost exactly what I wanted to say , but I didn't want to lecture .
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It's a dirty job, but someone's got to do it.
I wasn't trying to lecture, just respond to one rant with a rant of my own. It wasn't directed at the OP. He wasn't the first to gripe about this rule, and he won't be the last (even this week probably). That was my point, its a constant issue, but an issue that is always dropped as soon as the person hits the hurdle. If its such an unfair rule, why are there no advocates of repealing it (with more than 15 posts at the time)?
I agree with the OP, as I am in the same situation myself. I have spent weeks reading xda-dev posts, rooted my new Nook Tablets, learned from the experience and would like to contributed my experience and collaborate with other members. But due to this rule, I am forced to spend time on other topics, for which I am making less of a contribution to the community.
Regarding the reason why people with 100+ posts are not complaining about this rule... well, I think that is obvious -- they are now (hopefully) contributing to the community and do not want to waste their effort complaining. Otherwise people like myself and the OP could likely give-up out of frustration before ever finding enough less constructive posts to make. In these cases we all lose. We continue to make progress on our own (sometimes "re-inventing the wheel") but we could all be more productive together.
Preaching to the Choir here, but yeah, I'm commenting here because in other threads where I'd like to respond to a reply to a post I made, I can't.
What is odd is that I was able to post in Development threads at first and then couldn't.
Either way, walking the path because I am forced to...
Cheers
Even I've made 11 and can't post in the development thread I want. There's a great CM 12 Rom thread I need to post urgently and still can't post although I got 11. Really frustrated!
randika171 said:
Even I've made 11 and can't post in the development thread I want. There's a great CM 12 Rom thread I need to post urgently and still can't post although I got 11. Really frustrated!
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Some developers have put limits on which ranks of users are able to post in their threads. As of right now, you should be able to post in any thread on XDA, so that thread's OP may have set a rank limit, or perhaps it's a bug.
Let me know.
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Some developers have put limits on which ranks of users are able to post in their threads. As of right now, you should be able to post in any thread on XDA, so that thread's OP may have set a rank limit, or perhaps it's a bug.
Let me know.
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Yup I can post now. It seems all I needed to do was wait for an hour or so. I logged in after an hour and yay!
I have been a member for years. I don't post often but read a lot. (More people should.) I have over 10 posts but I am not able to download. Is it because I haven't posted in so long? I was able to download a little over a month ago no problem but now it says I don't have 10.
When you are absolutly sure, that u only cant download from this website,
then you should contact an admin by using the contact form!
regards
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I have been a member for years. I don't post often but read a lot. (More people should.) I have over 10 posts but I am not able to download. Is it because I haven't posted in so long? I was able to download a little over a month ago no problem but now it says I don't have 10.
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Downloads don't have postcount limit, in fact you can download while not logged in!
What are you trying to access?
Here is the link to the page and to the response that I get.
Thanks for the help so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1463854
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hazzmatt69, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
Remember, your question has very likely been asked already, so please search before posting.
Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
Try logging out, clearing your cookies, and logging back in. You never know, might work
Maybe you are not verified???
Yeah that 10 posts thing is garbage. Lol. I read through these forums and don't really post because all my questions are answered by reading. I understand your frustration. Hopefully you get this figured out.
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hazzmatt69 said:
Here is the link to the page and to the response that I get.
Thanks for the help so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1463854
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hazzmatt69, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
Remember, your question has very likely been asked already, so please search before posting.
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I've got the same problem. But the first link is useless (for you). You need to click the second link.
The first one says "Thank you." to the author.
And that seems to be forbidden for users without ten posts.
- My first post!
awww bless congratulations on your first post.
that link doesnt work for me either.
-> My 10th post
Related Q
How are people with only 3 posts posting in development threads?
I can't yet. I don't mind. It's a good rule. Just wondering what's up.
jrocivxx said:
Yeah that 10 posts thing is garbage. Lol. I read through these forums and don't really post because all my questions are answered by reading. I understand your frustration. Hopefully you get this figured out.
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agreed, im trying to post up a how to guide with photos for the galaxy note and it wont even let me, now ive got to make up another 6 or so nonsense posts still before im allowed, I feel like im spamming but unfortunetly its the only way!
I can understand the 10 post limit, however there should be an option to be invited by a friend or even a developer.
LOL....Not enjoying this 10 post rule but I understand it. Been reading these forums for months and finally decided I wanted to help out in some of the dev threads and learned I couldn't yet. I remember what it was like being a noob so have some patience for it. But happy to be a part of this community!
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ElScorpione said:
I can understand the 10 post limit, however there should be an option to be invited by a friend or even a developer.
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Congrats on #10! This post will probably be deleted now. hahaha!
Annoying
The first 10 posts r really annoying!
i dont have 10
I somehow agree...
Well, all the forums are affected by a strange epidemic problem: Noobs that start to post few things like "I like it" just see their counter going up.
I am a new "NOOB" here too and this is my second post but all I wanted to do is to give a feedback to one developer about a ViewPad7 ROM I downloaded from here two weeks ago. It was not one of the classic "Please I need this function working on my VP7". It's a valid feedback with some advices but I cannot.
So I believe that sending a PM to a developer and then developer sending you an invitation to take active part to a discussion.. will be a nice feature.
Same for me but I am new.
Been trying to get permissions to post in the dev forums, to be frank, the main reason i registered as its what xdadev is renowned for.
Got more than 10 posts, not really being GIVEN a reason, per se, that explains why I cant post yet
It's a good idea though, but if I meet the freaking criteria, it should be letting me in!
Yeah I get it for new comers that just want a quick fix without searching the forums and doing their homework and for spam. I can donate on a dev site but can't post? What gives.
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Glad I'm not the only one frustrated beyond believe with this STUPID, I'm gonna say it again IDIOTIC rule. I get it, we don't need NooBs spamming the forum and I respect XDA immensely but for the sake of everything that's sweet and evil I can't even express my gratitude to my precious Devs for the hard work they did on the ROM I have been using for months now :/ Yes, I can hit the thanks button, I can donate but still I want to voice my excitement! Now, I'm done venting and apologize for spamming. Android FTW!
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I don't see what the issue is... I once made 100 (useful) posts in 2 days. I don't see how 10 is a problem
where do we supposed to reply in this forum? if we make a new thread here, they will closed it. if we reply to the topic that we needed, we are not allowed. what will we do here?
New version for taptalk have this problem .. just try many time it will work
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zerovirusity said:
where do we supposed to reply in this forum? if we make a new thread here, they will closed it. if we reply to the topic that we needed, we are not allowed. what will we do here?
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You need to fulfill the 10 post rule first. Most threads are development threads, therefore new members are not allowed to post until the 10 post minimum is met. This doesn't mean go and make 10 spam/junk/worthless posts either. Someone is always watching for this kind of behaviour.
zerovirusity said:
to all members here, although we are newbies here, we are aware of the rules in this forum because i am also a member in some forums. i hope you will considerate us. we chose to be a member here because this forum has a lot of things that we needed and some answers for our questions. if that's the case that we need to post 10 or more than posts, then please allow us here to post. don't closed it first until we reach 10 posts.
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Threads are only closed for irrelevant posts/spam. Make a worthwhile post and it won't be deleted/locked/removed. Pretty simple really. Everyone needs to bear in mind that this forum is intended for developers. Which 90% or better of you are not.
There are already plenty of threads that discuss this topic, so we don't need a new once (hence the closure).
One of my favourite reasons for the 10 post rule is that it encourages most users (the less spammy and needy ones) to spend more time reading than trying to post in development forums. If you do spend enough time reading you find that 99% of your questions have already been answered, and you learn a hell of a lot and start being able to answer questions yourself. That's a great way to take part in the community as a contributing member. In fairness, if you come here to leech and not participate then you're not adding anything to the forum.
Anyway, if you want more info then see the link in my signature about 10 posts - that should answer more questions
So, i'm member for quite a long time (not including the hours i've spent without logging in!) and the post limitation is just of no use.
Mostly I browse through XDA in matters of need.
I Reply only in a topic of my interest, not just posting [email protected] so I can lift the 10 posts limitation.
Right now I'm trying to reply in a developer thread for a software that I've found a solution to a program error
and I can't post it because of my 10 post limitation.
IMO post count just doesn't work the way it supposed to.
It keeps away some people that want and know how to help in a problem but they are very irritated because they can't post.
And what's with the 9-digit captchas? I feel like I'm being punished!
P.S: I just tried to edit my post and guess what? I had to wait another 5 minutes...
It's got to be really easy to make 10 posts, there are loads of general discussion thread you could participate in.
killall said:
It's got to be really easy to make 10 posts, there are loads of general discussion thread you could participate in.
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Yes bro they are the best way to help new people and make them comfortable and also increase your post count
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Here's a good place to voice your concerns/get more information:
Alternative to 10 post rule
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Hello,
Can somebody explain why there is a 10 posts policy? I am new in this forum, before I used it a lot for reading and download useful software.
Now I want to install FlashTool Xperia Driver Pack (v1.5) available by this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635830, but something goes wrong. I would like to ask in that thread, but I cannot, because I do not have 10 posts yet. Is there any options to ask this question without making 10 posts?
P.S. It is really strange policy, because many people will not ask question, will not get help and will tell to their friends that xda-developers is useless. Also from site promotion (SEO) point of view it is better to have more posts and etc, but this rule is really limits it.
Zlelik said:
Hello,
Can somebody explain why there is a 10 posts policy? I am new in this forum, before I used it a lot for reading and download useful software.
Now I want to install FlashTool Xperia Driver Pack (v1.5) available by this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635830, but something goes wrong. I would like to ask in that thread, but I cannot, because I do not have 10 posts yet. Is there any options to ask this question without making 10 posts?
P.S. It is really strange policy, because many people will not ask question, will not get help and will tell to their friends that xda-developers is useless. Also from site promotion (SEO) point of view it is better to have more posts and etc, but this rule is really limits it.
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It is so new users don't break rules. New users probably will not know what to do and they might post something in the wrong section or something that's not allowed.
For now go to another thread and post some posts there, but don't post just to get 10 posts. Whew, that was 4 posts in just one sentence. :sly:
janekmuric said:
It is so new users don't break rules. New users probably will not know what to do and they might post something in the wrong section or something that's not allowed.
For now go to another thread and post some posts there, but don't post just to get 10 posts. Whew, that was 4 posts in just one sentence. :sly:
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Anyway there is moderation and moderators can move or delete or block wrong posts. Otherwise this forum is not a helpful place for people how really need help, It is place for people how already know a lot, but they want to discuss deep details.
Actually the 10 posts policy to stop spamming on this forum. You can find a lot of spammer all over the online forums. They just try to create backlink. The 10 posts policy prevent this kind of spamming on this forum.