Hi Everyone,
I am new in XDA with Nexus 5 mobile, i am wondering can i update my rooted and unlocked bootloader Nexus 5 through OTA with stock rom and stock kernal? Thanks Everyone
Duckone said:
Hi Everyone,
I am new in XDA with Nexus 5 mobile, i am wondering can i update my rooted and unlocked bootloader Nexus 5 through OTA with stock rom and stock kernal? Thanks Everyone
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Yes, you will receive and be able to install the OTA (if you also have the stock recovery) but you will loose root though.
Thanks alot for your kind reply.
This is all covered in the "ota helpdesk" thread stuck at the top of this general forum.
Always read stickies before asking questions... including the one that says not to ask questions in the general forum
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rootSU said:
This is all covered in the "ota helpdesk" thread stuck at the top of this general forum.
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The Helpdesk thread must have been un-stickied in the last few days, because I saw you give this answer several times but had to go digging to find it myself.
There's conflicting information out there -- I've spent hours reading posts here but have had some places tell me that I *can't* get an OTA update when rooted, while some tell me that I *can*. I think the nuance is the problem. It sounds like OTA will work, but only if you haven't changed any system files, and also will wipe out your root and custom recovery. Still, I'd rather have to re-root than to manually update.
The best solution is the one that gets me from "rooted, stock version X" to "rooted, stock version X+1" in the least amount of time!
Ghengis042 said:
...I'd rather have to re-root than to manually update...
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Actually, flashing the stock image yourself is quite easy and can be less problematic.
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Actually, flashing the stock image yourself is quite easy and can be less problematic.
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Good to know. So, I'm getting an N5 in the next week or two (shipped today, but has to be forwarded overseas by a relative ) and want it rooted, stock. Best bet is to OTA update (if it doesn't ship with 4.4.2) -> unlock bootloader -> install CWM -> install SuperSU? Then, next time Google issues an update, download the OTA ZIP and install it from CWM?
Won't that remove CWM and root, like I was saying? Or is there some version of the "stock image" I can download that doesn't overwrite recovery and/or the su binary/APK?
What you've said is correct, and then after an OTA just reflash CWM* and then re-root it - takes all of 30 seconds if you have the image on your computer
*CWM might give you the option of removing the stock recovery reflash script before rebooting, so say yes to it if it mentions it
Ghengis042 said:
... Or is there some version of the "stock image" I can download that doesn't overwrite recovery and/or the su binary/APK?
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Take a look here.
PhilipTD said:
Actually, flashing the stock image yourself is quite easy and can be less problematic.
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I am new to Android, so i would like to ask more before root, that would be less problem
BTW thanks for everyone's reply
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Hi,
the automatic update process in my nexus 5 just launched and i thought great. But then it rebooted into my twrp recovery which really didnt do anything except for aborting the process rather quickly. With no error whatsoever i reboot, go and See that my phone is still on 4.4. So what the heck should i do to get this working ? I had no success in search for my problem, or everyone just assumes that you have to know this stuff . Well i dont so a bit oft help would be appreciated (also i dont have access to my PC currently which would render the advise to "just sideload it" very very useless.
Thanks for your help in advance.
EntroP
Exactly what happened to me. See here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6914
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Sry but i cant find it
Go to the general section ota help desk post download the zip for going from 4.4 to 4.4.2 and flag it with twrp and oy should be good to go have you flashed any mods or any stuff like that (kernels, zipthemer stuff)??
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Yeah, the headphone boost and the camera mod is currently installed
If you are still on the stock kernel use flashify to flash the 4.4 system IMG let it reboot and then flash the zip from ota helpdesk and u should be on 4.4.2
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EntroP said:
Yeah, the headphone boost and the camera mod is currently installed
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thats why your OTA failed.
if you modify system files, you cannot install the OTA. this is OTA 101
Ben36's method worked like a charm, without even flashing anything back to stock! I'd recommend his method for everyone with mods on their phone. Thanks
EntroP said:
Ben36's method worked like a charm, without even flashing anything back to stock! I'd recommend his method for everyone with mods on their phone. Thanks
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I wouldn't recommend ANY method of flashing an OTA if you have ANY mods on your phone!
In fact, i'd flat out recommend against it.
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Mhm i dont think his method included the ota files but the whole Firmware .ZIP which was already pre rooted. Then again im just glad it worked, i really just follow instructions and have no actual idea what im doing. So as long as it works its fine (dont judge me)
Hi does anyone know where I can find the stock recovery for the nexus 5? I have not found him namely: (
There's a thread in general with a link to all recoveries including stock
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APP-Maker said:
Hi does anyone know where I can find the stock recovery for the nexus 5? I have not found him namely: (
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Google recovery zip collection xda
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513701
Scroll to method 2 and download the recovery
APP-Maker said:
Hi does anyone know where I can find the stock recovery for the nexus 5? I have not found him namely: (
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If you go to Google's page for "Factory Images for Nexus Devices" then you can download a script which will install the official stock image, this will also give you the latest baseband (currently version M8974A-1.0.25.0.23 I think) but you should have that already if you ever did the official 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 stock OTA update, you can check your baseband version in fastboot.
Charlular said:
If you Google's page for "Factory Images for Nexus Devices" then you can download a script which will install the official stock image, this will also give you the latest baseband (currently version M8974A-1.0.25.0.23 I think) but you should have that already if you ever did the official 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 stock OTA update, you can check your baseband version in fastboot. I'd link to the page I mentioned earlier but I can only link once I have made ten posts.
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Dude, he's looking for the recovery not the whole factory image. One will wipe your whole device, the other won't. If you're looking for your 10 posts there's better ways to do it
jd1639 said:
Dude, he's looking for the recovery not the whole factory image. One will wipe your whole device, the other won't. If you're looking for your 10 posts there's better ways to do it
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Well if they want the stock recovery then it's likely that they want stock Android too. They may also prefer to use an official script from Google or may have been unaware of the updated baseband and may want it, don't be angry at me for suggesting completely legitimate alternatives.
Charlular said:
Well if they want the stock recovery then it's likely that they want stock Android too. He may also prefer to use an official script from Google or may have been unaware of the updated baseband and may want it, don't be angry at me for suggesting completely legitimate alternatives.
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Not angry, just like to see productive ways to get a post count up. I'd suggest reading the pinned, stickies, threads in the general section to learn as much as you can about your device. Then ask questions there if you have any.
[Q] [URGENT] Need quick reply about OTA of 5.0 and "system file modification" issue
Hello, i have such a situation now that i require a fast answer regarding nexus 5 and its lollipop update.
If the Nexus 5 device has been rooted using towelroot, and its softkey buttons are changed, will the phone get OTA update?
I have read that it might say that system files have been modified and that it wont let the device update via OTA.
nikssims said:
Hello, i have such a situation now that i require a fast answer regarding nexus 5 and its lollipop update.
If the Nexus 5 device has been rooted using towelroot, and its softkey buttons are changed, will the phone get OTA update?
I have read that it might say that system files have been modified and that it wont let the device update via OTA.
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youll get it but wont be able to apply it. but it doesnt matter, you can wait several hours after the files get dropped into aosp for a rooted 5.0 rom to come out, or you can flash the factory img. anyways, all the answers are out there. all you need to do is search.
simms22 said:
youll get it but wont be able to apply it. but it doesnt matter, you can wait several hours after the files get dropped into aosp for a rooted 5.0 rom to come out, or you can flash the factory img. anyways, all the answers are out there. all you need to do is search.
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Thank you for your reply, but now i have another question, how long does it usually take for a stock image of a new android version to get uploaded at Nexus Google developer site?
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
nikssims said:
Thank you for your reply, but now i have another question, how long does it usually take for a stock image of a new android version to get uploaded at Nexus Google developer site?
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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as soon as google allows it, they will place a link there. so, asap. all they do is link it there, not upload it.
Alright thanks!
Is rooting the OPO on 4.4.4 05Q the same as rooting it on 4.4.4 44S? thanks a lot guys. I couldn't find any answer on this anywhere else considering this update is fairly new
Yes. It's the same no matter what firmware version you're on.
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Is rooting the OPO on 4.4.4 05Q the same as rooting it on 4.4.4 44S? thanks a lot guys. I couldn't find any answer on this anywhere else considering this update is fairly new
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...and you just need to update SuperSU app in order to maintain 05Q rooted (if previous version was, of course...)
This is odd. I was previously Unlocked, and Rooted, with SuperSU 2.37. After OTA update to 05Q, my Root is gone. No SuperSU app in my installed program list.
Okay, so I go look for the latest, find that it's now at 2.46, download, reboot, flash (no errors), reboot, and i'm back into my phone. But: Still no SuperSU in my apps list, and I'm getting warnings from XPrivacy that it's not running. Does anyone recognize these symptoms? Am I still rooted or not?
thanks guys so can i use any 4.4.4 root toolkit?
i guess you can, unfortunately i'm not skilled in android things but as timmaaa said nothing changed between 44S and 05Q so your toolkit should work if you root your phone for first time. Take a little time to install custom twrp recovery and make a nandroid backup first...just in case of...
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thanks guys so can i use any 4.4.4 root toolkit?
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Don't use a toolkit, they're bad news. They cause more problems than they're worth, plus they allow you to do things to your device without actually knowing what's going on, which is bypassing some very crucial learning and knowledge.
This phone is very easy to unlock and root. Very easy. Just go to my guide thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2839471
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Thanks man, ill use that
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Thanks man, ill use that
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Feel free to ask any questions if you get stuck.
timmaaa said:
Feel free to ask any questions if you get stuck.
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Thanks man ill let you know. Contemplating rooting now lol might wait till I need to reset because of lack of space because i really don't want to set everything up again
This is an upgrade pathway that worked well for me in upgrading to 5.0.1 originally from KK as I described in THIS post. All the same thanks go out for the original ideas and guidance to: dottat, Dees Troy, and Darth.
The same method works. Even if you're S-OFF, the trick is following the S-ON instructions...that's it.
Find the latest S-ON RUU and instructions HERE.
The latest TWRP (for the HTC One M8) HERE.
The latest SuperSU per the instructions HERE.
Install the S-on 5.0.1 RUU by whatever method you chose from the link above. I used the fastboot method and it did a great job upgrading the stystem. Most importantly, it did NOT wipe my data. You can also use the htc_fastboot.exe in it's extraction directory for all subsequent fastboot operations [highly recommended]. It will reboot and take at least 5 minutes to update all of your applications. At first, it looks like it hangs on the Verizon splash for a minute or three, then it shows you the upgrade of your applications with a count up. How long it takes depends on how many applications you have and how large they are.
Follow the guides to install TWRP and reinstall SuperSU for root. (step 5) I went to the new TWRP page (step 2) and loaded mine by fastboot, then used the new TWRP to flash SuperSU as described.
If you haven't taken the OTA, that should take care of the upgrade nag screens and keep your data intact. If you have, keep reading.
REMINDER: to reflash any tweaks. My favorite package is HERE at the bottom of the links list. It has just about everything I like.
ADDITIONAL INFO FROM dotatt
You also would be wise to note if the user was already getting nagged for the ota they will still be nagged about it even after upgrading this way. Couple more steps needed
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AND HIS DESCRIPTION VIA PM
If the user doesn't download the OTA and defer it they might be able to get away with it. Once the file is downloaded (and it goes in /cache) the user will need to wipe cache to delete the actual file as well as go into app manager and clear data on the htcdm app. When they enter the software update screen again it should check and show no updates available instead of asking when to install the deferred update.
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If you need to get rid of the nag screen, the update files, and clear htcdm data, you may be able to use THIS (M8vzw OTA Killer updated for Lollipop) tool.
I have a problem and need help, maybe you can help. I was stock but was s-off and took the stage fright update and phone did all the update and when the phone booted it did not go past the Verizon bootup screen, can anybody help me with this? Thanks you.
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I have a problem and need help, maybe you can help. I was stock but was s-off and took the stage fright update and phone did all the update and when the phone booted it did not go past the Verizon bootup screen, can anybody help me with this? Thanks you.
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I answered your other post. Please only post for help in one thread. Thanks.
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Thanks for keeping your eyes open, dottat. Good reminder that he'll have to reflash TWRP and SuperSU though. And, he'll have to reflash any tweaks.
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Thanks for keeping your eyes open, dottat. Good reminder that he'll have to reflash TWRP and SuperSU though. And, he'll have to reflash any tweaks.
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You also would be wise to note if the user was already getting nagged for the ota they will still be nagged about it even after upgrading this way. Couple more steps needed ?
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