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This is just a quick list of things I thought would be helpful to Noobs/Newbs. They're not in any particular order. Also, sticky if need be or just leave as is. Sticky would be preferred though so Noobs/Newbs can see it right away. Anyway, here are what I feel should be the 10 Commandments for the SGS4G Forum. You may agree or you may not. Think what you will. If you feel anything should be added, PM me and I'll make the changes myself. Thank you.
#1 - Search The Forum Before Asking Questions.
Unless you like getting flamed by people when you don't search before asking.
#2 - DON'T USE ROM MANAGER ON SGS4G EVER!!!!!!
Unless you really like ODIN that much.
#3 - DON'T TRY TO FLASH ANY ROMS OUTSIDE OF THE SGS4G FORUM
Unless you wanted a nice brick instead of a phone.
#4 - Read the "[Guide] *NOOB's* guide to flashing " Thread In The General Section Before Trying To Flash Anything.
You'll eventually get pointed to that direction anyway if you don't read it. Trust me, we can tell when people don't.
#5 - Read The Instructions For The ROM Before Installing.
Unless you really like reflashing or reverting back to STOCK. HELLO ODIN AGAIN.
#6 - When You Have A Problem With A ROM, Be Descriptive About The Issue.
Believe it or not, the Devs here can't read minds nor can they see over your shoulder to see what your issue is on your phone. They're good, but not that good.
#7 - Be Thankful Towards Our Devs.
If you like a ROM, show your appreciation. If not, then keep your mouth shut and use a different ROM or better yet go back to STOCK. ONCE AGAIN, HELLO ODIN.
#8 - POST IN THE RIGHT SECTION!!!!
Prepare to get flamed if you don't.
#9 - When Flashing From Froyo To GB, Follow FBis251's "[ODIN+CWM] GB Ext4 Starter Pack (Sep 27)" Thread or use the updated Kies Mini to upgrade to official KJ6.
If not, then yet again, HELLO ODIN.
#10 - For The Love Of Our Forum, Don't Ask A Dev For An ETA!!!!!
You'll only get one answer if you do. WHEN IT'S DONE!!!
Going to add one more thing until we actually get it for our phone.
#11 - If You're Coming From Another Device, Don't Come In Here Thinking You Can Get CM7 For The SGS4G.
This goes along with #3 in a way. Its being worked on. Now that we have the kernel source for GB, we are now one step closer. So, until the devs figure everything out with the source to get CM7 working, IT CAN NOT BE INSTALLED!!!
Now if you're wondering, "What is ODIN?" well, there's a guide for that...
[GUIDE] Noobs guide to Odin to flash your SGS4G (Windows)
Like I said, feel free to PM me if you feel something should be added.
Not bad.. I'd also add the noob's guide to ODIN, and put up a link to the Bible thread to find every ROM, guide, Kernel, modem, etc that's been put up in the dev section.
Nice Work Thanks
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Nice list, glad to see it stickied.....hopefully it will cut down on the repetitive questions that have been plaguing the threads lately.
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Good thing no noobs are gonna read this. The newbs might since they're willing to learn, but not the noobs.
number 8 will never happen
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Good thing no noobs are gonna read this. The newbs might since they're willing to learn, but not the noobs.
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HAHAHA....i must be newb then,because i am reading this....you will be seeing more of me as i dig dipper into the expanse of knowledge you folks have here....glad to be here...
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HAHAHA....i must be newb then,because i am reading this....you will be seeing more of me as i dig dipper into the expanse of knowledge you folks have here....glad to be here...
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You're the best kind of new user, the one who reads and tries to keep informed. I'll be glad to help if you have any questions.
well im glad its not overlooked
So, I think "Do NOT necro threads" should be added here. I'm seeing that a lot recently. It's just ridiculous.
I think that is general forum etiquette, not much SGS4G specific.
Updated #9 since we now have an official GB Upgrade. Will be taking #11 off as soon as we get new kernel working to run CM7.
Nice laws. I made the rom manager mistake when I was a noob. Seemed like the easiest way to go, until my phone wouldn't boot.
has anyone figured out why rom manager cannot be used...and if so what are proposed solutions
hey guys could you please direct me to the link on how to totally start over fresh.. basically if i want to do a complete wipe and start over on my phone ive got the kj6 version.. i think its probably a good idea for me to familiarize myself with it now thanks..
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hey guys could you please direct me to the link on how to totally start over fresh.. basically if i want to do a complete wipe and start over on my phone ive got the kj6 version.. i think its probably a good idea for me to familiarize myself with it now thanks..
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Look up Raver's Odin KJ6 rom. It'll leave your phone as if you had just downloaded the Kies official update.
Thanks alot... I've just been putting particular things on my phone.. Checked out and installed a few roms... I've read on some of these threads about ghost roms and other issues just want to make sure ive got my bases covered.. Thanks again..
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I know it's a little late, but updated #11 since we now have the kernel source for gb.
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Thanks for this thread. Took me over a week to wade through and find this starting point. I just rooted my phone and have been nervous about flashing a rom with all the different ways posted on how to go about it.
First off please don't flame me, I've been on XDA for years an am by far not new to this. I know the procedures and I DID search and try to find these answers but am still a little confused so I would appreciate some help and I'd be very grateful please . I finally talked my buddy into getting an android phone and dropping iOS so he has the sensation and decided he wants to root and install custom Roms so I'm going to do so for him. He's on stock ICS and all the stickie threads for rooting I seen for the most part were last edited or not posted on since before the ICS update. I seen about the tool kit but just want to double check so I don't brick my buddies phone, could someone just link me to the newest method to root and flash recovery for flashing Roms for a phone on stock ICS? Once again my apologies as I know these noobie questions are annoying but my searching didn't help me . Thanks all!
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The reason I'm posting is because its so complicated on HTC phones, Samsung is easy lol but I read the thread about how to do things but there's a million different things it talks about. It talks about s off and adb and all that, there doesn't seem to be a good guide in everything to do just to root and be able to flash custom Roms from straight stock from step one. Help please friend may be willing to donate after all said and done.
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The reason I'm posting is because its so complicated on HTC phones, Samsung is easy lol but I read the thread about how to do things but there's a million different things it talks about. It talks about s off and adb and all that, there doesn't seem to be a good guide in everything to do just to root and be able to flash custom Roms from straight stock from step one. Help please friend may be willing to donate after all said and done.
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Hi,
Please check the ☺ A great starting point for all new Sensation owners ☺ link in my signature.
It has all the latest links to the threads you want.
Hi, sorry if this thread is short, but i have two question blowing my mind.
1: Why don't whe have a 4.0.4 Cyanogenmod Rom?
2: And can we have a stock 4.1.2 rom? I mean, with motoblur, not cyanogenmod or that kinda variants
I know that motorola isn't collaborating with its upgrades. But, there is any chance?
First of all the boot loader is locked that means no custom kernel that means no proper CM builds, still there is an unofficial CM ROM in the development section take a look at it. And don't forget the funda "search before you post"..
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tchsvy said:
First of all the boot loader is locked that means no custom kernel that means no proper CM builds, still there is an unofficial CM ROM in the development section take a look at it. And don't forget the funda "search before you post"..
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You don't get me at all. I know that there's 3 roms of 4.1.2 CM.
And this was my comment about that, but no ones answers me:
I know that is hard, and i really really really apreciate the work that they're doing.
But, we have 3 roms of cyanogenmod, and the 3 roms have the same bugs.
I repeat. I know, they can't spend the whole free-time that you have working in the creation of the rom. But, why don't you team up and make a unique functional rom.
Or, am i missing something, and for the moment we can't have a functional rom because of motorola or whatever?
I repeat again, sorry if i'm bothering someone, but i ask this from my ignorance.
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You don't get me at all. I know that there's 3 roms of 4.1.2 CM.
And this was my comment about that, but no ones answers me:
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I know that is hard, and i really really really apreciate the work that they're doing.
But, we have 3 roms of cyanogenmod, and the 3 roms have the same bugs.
I repeat. I know, they can't spend the whole free-time that you have working in the creation of the rom. But, why don't you team up and make a unique functional rom.
Or, am i missing something, and for the moment we can't have a functional rom because of motorola or whatever?
I repeat again, sorry if i'm bothering someone, but i ask this from my ignorance.
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Then learn how to build your own freaking ROM, and why even start a NEW thread with this junk, it all fits in the CM Q&A thread.
These types of threads are not cool to your dev team. We all work very hard to bring the stuff that we do, to you guys, for free.
If you do not like the bugs in the CM based roms that we have then do not use them and stick to stock and stop basically complaining about it, or do some reading and learn about the process and see why we have these issues, we have all posted about it so many times now it is not even funny.
I saw your post before and chose to ignore it, but now that you have posted a new thread like this, I just had to reply.
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And to answer the questions you put in the first post here:
1) because the source for CM10 with 4.0.4 is not out anymore
2) because motorola will not release a 4.1 or 4.2 stock ROM and kernel, so we can not port that, even our 4.1 and 4.2 CM based roms are still really 4.0.4 because we still have the 4.0.4 version of the kernel underneath.
Again all this has been spelled out too many times now and some reading and searching could have gotten your answers.
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Then learn how to build your own freaking ROM, and why even start a NEW thread with this junk, it all fits in the CM Q&A thread.
These types of threads are not cool to your dev team. We all work very hard to bring the stuff that we do, to you guys, for free.
If you do not like the bugs in the CM based roms that we have then do not use them and stick to stock and stop basically complaining about it, or do some reading and learn about the process and see why we have these issues, we have all posted about it so many times now it is not even funny.
I saw your post before and chose to ignore it, but now that you have posted a new thread like this, I just had to reply.
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And to answer the questions you put in the first post here:
1) because the source for CM10 with 4.0.4 is not out anymore
2) because motorola will not release a 4.1 or 4.2 stock ROM and kernel, so we can not port that, even our 4.1 and 4.2 CM based roms are still really 4.0.4 because we still have the 4.0.4 version of the kernel underneath.
Again all this has been spelled out too many times now and some reading and searching could have gotten your answers.
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I already said this, but, i do not want you to get mad.
If you can't response a single question without freaking out, then, don't answer.
I just gave an opinion, like i said, from my ignorance.
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I already said this, but, i do not want you to get mad.
If you can't response a single question without freaking out, then, don't answer.
I just gave an opinion, like i said, from my ignorance.
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I am not mad BTW, I am just tired of people not doing their own research. You are more than welcome to do some reading on compiling Cyanogenmod, so that you understand what we are up against. Also try searching for compiling cyanogenmod on locked bootloaders.
We (all the A2 devs), have answered these same questions so many times now, it is not even funny. It seems that as of late people have gotten more and more lazy in here, and we just keep hashing the same crap over and over again.
You say it is from your own ignorance, but you do not have to be ignorant, just use the search function or do some reading on your own and find what you need. And I do not want to hear excuses or complaints about the search function, I use it all the time, all you have to do is play with the wording until you find what you want. Also note other devs did not answer your original query either, for probably the same reason, not to put words in their mouth's either.
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But, why don't you team up and make a unique functional rom.
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Also I hate to tell you but most of your devs do "team up" and we work together on our IRC chat room to do dev work, but again reading around the forms would have also told you that as well, as we talk about it quite often.
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You don't get me at all. I know that there's 3 roms of 4.1.2 CM.
And this was my comment about that, but no ones answers me:
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I think only PA is 4.1.2 so far.. the others are 4.1.1, I think
And Jim's right, I also saw your post in the PA thread and started to reply, but discarded it because I felt I was sounding too mean.. let me try again:
I can say from my personal experience and (relatively low) skill level - it's a mess trying to get all the pieces in place to compile a working ROM from source code for our phone - specifically, the vendor and device files..
I know at least a few A2 devs are working to straighten things out for Edison directly - and a few others working on other Motos with similar hardware and locked bootloaders, which benefits us all.
It's probably safe to say that our phone is in the early stages of true ROM development (as opposed to derivative pseudo-roms and ports) - there is still a lot of work to be done to get something truly stable.
Again, please be patient, or learn and contribute... don't stir the pot.
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Okay, Let me start by saying two things. Yes I'm new to this. And yes I looked in the forums for something similar.
Now, basically I just recently rooted my Samsung Galaxy S 4G. It is Model SGH-T959V, Firmware 2.2.1, Baseband T959VUVKB5, Build FROYO.VUVKB5. There are a few things I was wanting to ask the community.
Is it possible or a good idea to update it to JB, ICS, GB. And if so what are the benefits and procedures to do so?
Secondly, I've been looking into getting some custom roms. So far the only things I have found haven't been comprehensible. They either require a higher firmware version, have no explanation as to what the rom does, or have highly technical steps which are way beyond me. Does anyone have any recommendations as to what would be some good roms? What they do? And the benefits of using them?
If this has all been discussed somewhere else and have just missed it, please feel free to link to the thread and close this one.
ok i see you are new to the concept of flashing and rooting ....etc) you should try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001759
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Is it possible or a good idea to update it to JB, ICS, GB. And if so what are the benefits and procedures to do so?
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First, you should start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470716 Second here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V now you have all the source of instructions and guides to follow all you have to do is take some time to read and search. and now good luck to you and your phone..
Well, as for the Odin thing a lot of people have said it can brick your device, and that's not something wanna do.
As for the other guides, I started it, I got to the point where I'm updated to GB 2.3.6. The rest of the stuff didnt say what it was for, so I was unsure as whether or not to proceed. Are they required for flashing ROMs? Or just extra stuff?
The last one didn't seem to have anything really useful, but I didnt look at every last thing.
And what about useful ROMs? I've looked around online and a lot people recommend Cyanogenmod, although no one has said what it does. I looked at the steps and it seemed over complicated to install for someone new to this stuff.
Are they required for flashing ROMs? Or just extra stuff?
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And what about useful ROMs?
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In this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V it will guide you to rest of Custom rom's and kernel's that you must need to use in order to
start flashing custom rom and kernels. the rest is a guide which you can use and it will save you'r time from looking around.. The only rom which is very much stable to our phone are
GB and ICS while Cyanogenmod 10/10.1 are still in Alpha and beta stage..
Yeah, I saw that as I looked through it more. Just a lot of it is way over my head so it's gonna take me a while to get to it
That's right, you will never get lost by following that guide because everything you need to know are already in there.. just take some time to read and you
will be enlightened as you go on the process..
Well, my biggest problem is I keep looking for useful and cool ROMs, but haven't found any so far. So at the moment I can justify to myself to go through all those things just to not have anything to put on it. So far I like the GB look and feel much better than FROYO. I've found a few minor apps here and there, but so far nothing that has required flashing.
Or you can check some of the great ICS rom's we have, here i am going to provide some links of it for you.
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1733097
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034855
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1730954
4. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886035
Or some goodness of GB
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669364
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404863
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598561
This are just few of the rom's we have that i personally try and use it by myself, but you can have as much as you like and you can take a look at the development section and hand pick some
of the great rom's courtesy of our great dev's..
Cool, I'll check out those GB ones. Thanx
Good luck and make sure to follow as per OP's instruction of flashing the respective rom's to avoid further problem, u won't get lost as every instructions are provided
for the ease of use and flashing.. and take some time to each and every rom you flash so that you can personally experience the goodness and you can make a choice which rom you think it's best for you..
Hey guys converter from iPhone over here. Last time I rooted it was fairly straightforward and was able to get going quickly. This newer stuff is a little new to me.
I rooted my sprint s5 using towel root. Now what? I see roms like omega but none really say anything about the sprint model.
What should i do next to install a boottloader then a rom?
Thanks
kwwood said:
Hey guys converter from iPhone over here. Last time I rooted it was fairly straightforward and was able to get going quickly. This newer stuff is a little new to me.
I rooted my sprint s5 using towel root. Now what? I see roms like omega but none really say anything about the sprint model.
What should i do next to install a boottloader then a rom?
Thanks
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Assuming you are a new XDA user. Welcome to the forum and be sure to read over the forum rules. They might save you some headache in the future. For example, this post should of been in the Q&A section but no biggie. A mod will move it if need be.
Anyways, about your question, this is the Sprint specific forum so all the roms here should be compatible with the Sprint S5 (900P). Some of the roms will be based off of Touchwiz (these will keep almost 100% of stock functionality while adding some extras) and AOSP roms (custom based on CM, MIUI, etc.) The first post of each rom thread will give you a good idea of what the rom has included, instructions to flash, what works and doesn't, and so on.
If you just rooted get a custom recovery on there and do a backup of the system and EFS first thing. As for bootloader, that is preference and may depend on what rom you flash but I would think you will be fine with what version you have now.
This is also a good thread to take a look at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52456762&postcount=1