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We were able to get LTE working on the Nexus 4, abit crudely though, I read something about the Nexus 5 having an adjustable tuner, or something like that. Any chance somebody can "adjust" it to work on band 13 for Verizon?
I currently have a Galaxy Nexus, what would happen if I put my SIM card into the Nexus 5? Would it work with CDMA? It has the right CDMA bands and frequencies that Verizon uses. And if I was in an AWS band 4 area, I suppose LTE could work as well.
I know that I can pop my SIM card in any other Verizon phone, and it will work, CDMA and LTE. I don't need to go to Verizon to activate the CDMA part of the phone. So let's say I got a G2 and put my Galaxy Nexus SIM in it, it would work just like my Galaxy Nexus. So if I put my SIM card into a Nexus 5, wouldn't the CDMA just work because my SIM is there and it has the correct CDMA bands? If it does, I guess all we would have to do is get band 13 working so we can get full LTE support on Verizon.
I'm almost compelled to buy a Nexus 5 now and try this out, and hope somebody figures out how to get band 13 working.
Am I just dreaming or what?
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We were able to get LTE working on the Nexus 4, abit crudely though, I read something about the Nexus 5 having an adjustable tuner, or something like that. Any chance somebody can "adjust" it to work on band 13 for Verizon?
I currently have a Galaxy Nexus, what would happen if I put my SIM card into the Nexus 5? Would it work with CDMA? It has the right CDMA bands and frequencies that Verizon uses. And if I was in an AWS band 4 area, I suppose LTE could work as well.
I know that I can pop my SIM card in any other Verizon phone, and it will work, CDMA and LTE. I don't need to go to Verizon to activate the CDMA part of the phone. So let's say I got a G2 and put my Galaxy Nexus SIM in it, it would work just like my Galaxy Nexus. So if I put my SIM card into a Nexus 5, wouldn't the CDMA just work because my SIM is there and it has the correct CDMA bands? If it does, I guess all we would have to do is get band 13 working so we can get full LTE support on Verizon.
I'm almost compelled to buy a Nexus 5 now and try this out, and hope somebody figures out how to get band 13 working.
Am I just dreaming or what?
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I'd say it's easier to leave VZW.
Can you just do hacks and get the band to work?
And secondly it won't work. There have been countless posts about this. When you pop your Sim in it may take a while for service because Verizon is checking the imei on the phone to either grant it access or deny it access to the network.
I'm sure many people have ordered one and hope it will work (I have seen comments on dlife about them).
If the actual hardware components (Transceiver, Power Amplifier, Filters, Duplexers, etc..) on Nexus 5 support Band 13, maybe.
But you can't magically software enable something that doesn't physically exist.
How are you going to add the ESN to Verizons network???
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Yes the actual hardware supports Band 13, this phone hardware wise is a G2 dressed in a different set of clothing and that's it. My Nexus 7 LTE works just fine on Verizon's Band 13 and my IMEI is not in Verizon's database. Now Verizon wont activate a sim in a device that isn't in their database and Verizon CDMA has always been unlocked. I am betting money if you take a sim out of an iPhone 5 and live/visit a market where Verizon is doing LTE on AWS and pop that nano into a Nexus 5 your gonna auth on the LTE network and your gonna be working 100%
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And secondly it won't work. There have been countless posts about this. When you pop your Sim in it may take a while for service because Verizon is checking the imei on the phone to either grant it access or deny it access to the network.
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I currently have the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 LTE. The Nexus 7 LTE's IMEI is not in Verizon's database and it still works when I put my Verizon SIM into it, and it does not take it a while to get service.
I understand things are different with CDMA, but I still have a sliver of hope that somebody will get this working on Verizon.
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Yes the actual hardware supports Band 13, this phone hardware wise is a G2 dressed in a different set of clothing and that's it. My Nexus 7 LTE works just fine on Verizon's Band 13 and my IMEI is not in Verizon's database. Now Verizon wont activate a sim in a device that isn't in their database and Verizon CDMA has always been unlocked. I am betting money if you take a sim out of an iPhone 5 and live/visit a market where Verizon is doing LTE on AWS and pop that nano into a Nexus 5 your gonna auth on the LTE network and your gonna be working 100%
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Same sentiments except the Nexus is micro sim so you would need a converter. Band 13 is controversial because VZ has a consent decree to allow open device access but other bands are not covered. Since Band 13 is not enabled a hacked modem FW need to be installed to enable as such. The Nex 7 LTE does not support CDMA nor Voice so that is not exactly the same.
BTW my S4 now shows Band 17/20 support with the new MJ7 Modem update.
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Yes the actual hardware supports Band 13, this phone hardware wise is a G2 dressed in a different set of clothing and that's it. My Nexus 7 LTE works just fine on Verizon's Band 13 and my IMEI is not in Verizon's database. Now Verizon wont activate a sim in a device that isn't in their database and Verizon CDMA has always been unlocked. I am betting money if you take a sim out of an iPhone 5 and live/visit a market where Verizon is doing LTE on AWS and pop that nano into a Nexus 5 your gonna auth on the LTE network and your gonna be working 100%
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IMEI can be activated by Verizon
from google forums:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/Jv9FAwucMWM/7pIfTKxY5yUJ
sconosciute on Dec 1 said:
Okay so non-vzw device is actually a common issue. It is completely possible to activate a non Verizon device on the Verizon Wireless network, thought it's not something we advertise, and chances are you if you ask us if it's possible we will give you the blanket answer of no because many phones designed for other carriers are locked to that carrier, it is possible to unlock it for activation on another network (eg AT&T iPhone on Verizon network) but it's not something we do. When we receive something that the system does not recognize (it can only be done by placing an active sim into a new device) we have to fill out an e911 compliance form and manually add the MEID/IMEI to the system, tech support is capable of doing all of this upon request.
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FYI: I have a Nexus 5 on latest Marshmallow update and it runs great on the Project Fi network after I activated the SIM in my Nexus 6.
Thought I would try this to answer your questions.
I have an activated VZW SIM which I swap out to many other devices, including the Project Fi version of the Nexus 6 (Non-VZW device), a Droid MAXX, GPE HTC One... and many unlocked tablets and MiFi hotspots without issues (so long as the bands are supported).
I popped the VZW SIM into the Nexus 5 and it recognized the SIM but showed no network service. I attempted the pre-configured VZW APN settings to no success. I then manually entered all APN settings from the Nexus 6 which works fine. Nothing... no service.
While you may be able to get VZW to manually add your IMEI to their E911 database, I doubt it's worth the effort.
In Short and to re-confirm all of the previous posts... NO, you cannot use a Nexus 5 on Verizon wireless.
I recommend you go pick up a 5X and it'll work straight up out of the box.... or sign up for Project Fi. I love Fi but keep my VZW for the unlimited data.
Does the Nexus 5 support the correct Verizon bands? I have read and cannot find a definite answer. Any help would be awesome!
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Does the Nexus 5 support the correct Verizon bands? I have read and cannot find a definite answer. Any help would be awesome!
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Officially the N5 does not support Verizon explicitly, it may work but that is dependent on Verizon allowing you to activate the phone on their network. you can try but there are no guarantees. Personally i wouldn't hold my breath in anticipation.
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Does the Nexus 5 support the correct Verizon bands? I have read and cannot find a definite answer. Any help would be awesome!
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CDMA bands, which is used for voice capabilites and 3G data: No. The Nexus 5 supports CDMA bands 0, 1, and 10. Verizon uses 2 and 5.
EDIT: It looks like my cross-referencing led me astray. Verizon and Sprint use the same 3G frequencies, Band 0 and 1, at 850 MHz and 1900 MHz, respectively. The Nexus 5 supports CDMA bands 0, 1, and 10. In theory, assuming you can get Verizon to sign off on it, it might actually be possible.
LTE bands, which is used for....LTE data: Yes, but it's very very limited. The Nexus 5 supports bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 17, 19, 25, 26 , and 41. Verizon mainly uses band 13, but is slowly rolling out band 4 support, but the odds are it won't be in your area right now, and the roll-out is slow.
EDIT: Again, more research suggests that through firmware editing, it might be possible to enable band 13 LTE on the Nexus 5. This is due to the Snapdragon 800 having band 13 support. It would be along the lines of enabling band 4 LTE support on the Nexus 4 (although we had official legacy radios that supported it, so we had something to go off of).
Besides: look at how Verizon is handling the activations of the Nexus 7 deb ("mobile version," if you will). They won't officially activate them, so you have to activate another device on their network and plug that SIM card into the N7, essentially working around them.
So, in short, no it's possible I would not buy this phone if you are locked to Verizon. My advice? Ditch Verizon ASAP. Not just for the phone, but because they are a shady company that blocks competition, among other things.
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CDMA bands, which is used for voice capabilites and 3G data: No. The Nexus 5 supports CDMA bands 0, 1, and 10. Verizon uses 2 and 5.
LTE bands, which is used for....LTE data: Yes, but it's very very limited. The Nexus 5 supports bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 17, 19, 25, 26 , and 41. Verizon mainly uses band 13, but is slowly rolling out band 4 support, but the odds are it won't be in your area right now, and the roll-out is slow.
Besides: look at how Verizon is handling the activations of the Nexus 7 deb ("mobile version," if you will). They won't officially activate them, so you have to activate another device on their network and plug that SIM card into the N7, essentially working around them.
So, in short, no. I would not buy this phone if you are locked to Verizon. My advice? Ditch Verizon ASAP. Not just for the phone, but because they are a shady company that blocks competition, among other things.
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Where do you find info about cdma bands for Verizon? Thx
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equake said:
Where do you find info about cdma bands for Verizon? Thx
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My good ol' friend Wikipedia:
Cellular frequencies by company
Cross-referenced with UMTS frequency bands to get the operating band
And finally, the LTE bands by company
And here for the specs on the Nexus 5
I am sad.
Damn, thank you for the reply!
Johmama said:
My good ol' friend Wikipedia:
Cellular frequencies by company
Cross-referenced with UMTS frequency bands to get the operating band
And finally, the LTE bands by company
And here for the specs on the Nexus 5
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From the chart Both Sprint and VZW uses the same 3G FRQ only different Voice FRQ but each carrier can ride the Voice on the 3G bands so conceivably it can still work.
My 2 cents
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CDMA bands, which is used for voice capabilites and 3G data: No. The Nexus 5 supports CDMA bands 0, 1, and 10. Verizon uses 2 and 5.
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I thought that Verizon uses bands 0 and 1 for CDMA. Well I got the information from Wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Wireless#Radio_Frequency_Summary so I guess it could be wrong.
But Sprint devices can roam on Verizon's network, so that means that the Nexus 5 will be able to connect to a Verizon CDMA tower. The only problem is getting it to comemct to Verizon, and we still don't know what will happen when we pop an already active Verizon SIM card into the Nexus 5 yet.
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From the chart Both Sprint and VZW uses the same 3G FRQ only different Voice FRQ but each carrier can ride the Voice on the 3G bands so conceivably it can still work.
My 2 cents
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This is my understanding as well. you should be able to roam on verizon through sprint.
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I thought that Verizon uses bands 0 and 1 for CDMA. Well I got the information from Wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Wireless#Radio_Frequency_Summary so I guess it could be wrong.
But Sprint devices can roam on Verizon's network, so that means that the Nexus 5 will be able to connect to a Verizon CDMA tower. The only problem is getting it to comemct to Verizon, and we still don't know what will happen when we pop an already active Verizon SIM card into the Nexus 5 yet.
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Just because some sprint devices can roam on Verizon, doesn't mean ALL can. Every phone doesn't have the exact same frequency bands. That said, I would Imagine any newer cdma phone will be able to ride both verizon and sprint CDMA networks.
^^^ this. And for all we know band 13 LTE is supported by the hardware, just not by a Google that has a soured relationship with big red.
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^^^ this. And for all we know band 13 LTE is supported by the hardware, just not by a Google that has a soured relationship with big red.
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All LTE bands are supported by the baseband IP in the Snapdragon but it depends on the FW.
Activation of course is another story ie Nexus 7 LTE. Preactive SIMs should work but its up to VZW to accept it on their towers.
Well I can still hope. I'm on contact with Verizon until February and I'm about ready to kill my GNex. And I can't just go pay full price for a phone. Too much money, but the Nexus 5 is actually reasonable without contract. That's why I want it so bad.
And even when my contract is up, I can't switch, because everybody else is on my family plan. And I can't just go to T-Mobile $30 unlimited prepaid because there is no T-Mobile coverage at my house. (So frustrating, my housing development has towers for all the other three carriers, but when T-Mobile got their tower approved, the STUPID school people and parents got it blocked because it was within 1500 ft of the school. Like seriously I hate those people who appealed that, but that's another argument) And AT&T is too expensive for a single line. And Sprint just flat out sucks.
So I'll be on Verizon for a while, unless they can fight off those school people and get their tower built.
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Well I can still hope. I'm on contact with Verizon until February and I'm about ready to kill my GNex. And I can't just go pay full price for a phone. Too much money, but the Nexus 5 is actually reasonable without contract. That's why I want it so bad.
And even when my contract is up, I can't switch, because everybody else is on my family plan. And I can't just go to T-Mobile $30 unlimited prepaid because there is no T-Mobile coverage at my house. (So frustrating, my housing development has towers for all the other three carriers, but when T-Mobile got their tower approved, the STUPID school people and parents got it blocked because it was within 1500 ft of the school. Like seriously I hate those people who appealed that, but that's another argument) And AT&T is too expensive for a single line. And Sprint just flat out sucks.
So I'll be on Verizon for a while, unless they can fight off those school people and get their tower built.
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if you want other options, I've had lots of luck buying phones on Swappa.
If Verizon said yes, how would the non-LTE part of the phone know which network to hook up with? WithSprint and Verizon phones, they go automatically to their own network when activating. Would different CDMA networks pop up like with a GSM phone?
Recently I bought a LG Nexus 5, I am so Happy to Hold it in my handsbut my happiness ends when I try to connect to LTE with a Globe Philippines LTE Sim Card but it didn't connect even if I am on a LTE Zone so i begun searching for any solution suddenly I saw numerous post indicating the LTE BAND Compatibility for my NEXUS 5, and i was shocked that my Nexus 5 D820 doesn't support LTE BAND 3 for GLOBE Philippines and now I am soooooo!!!!!!!!!!! sad :crying: and mad of buying this fast as i saw it, now I don't know what to do I spent my Money on a Nexus that doesn't support my Carrier, I am SO DEAD for this, how do i Fix this :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
decade673 said:
Recently I bought a LG Nexus 5, I am so Happy to Hold it in my handsbut my happiness ends when I try to connect to LTE with a Globe Philippines LTE Sim Card but it didn't connect even if I am on a LTE Zone so i begun searching for any solution suddenly I saw numerous post indicating the LTE BAND Compatibility for my NEXUS 5, and i was shocked that my Nexus 5 D820 doesn't support LTE BAND 3 for GLOBE Philippines and now I am soooooo!!!!!!!!!!! sad :crying: and mad of buying this fast as i saw it, now I don't know what to do I spent my Money on a Nexus that doesn't support my Carrier, I am SO DEAD for this, how do i Fix this :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
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Sell it and get a Nexus 5 D821 (D821 seems to be more expensive than the D820) :/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Differences-between-the-two-Nexus-5-models-D820-and-D821_id48985
Do not get a Nexus 5 from America. I am from Singapore and got mine D821 from Japan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Philippines' Smart Communications seems to be using Band 1... If your friend is using that network, you can borrow it can test?
There is nothing we can do to make your phone support Band 3. You should have research a bit more before getting it. I know it sucks.... My country is using Band 3 and 7 but my Nexus 4 didn't support it as well at the time...
Bad for you man. But to be honest I'm not seeing the point for making a thread about this...
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I will be traveling to Japan and read that b-mobile offers a pre paid sim card for data. I see that they have every other galaxy phone listed as compatible but don't see the S6. I'm wondering if they just haven't updated it due to it being new or will it not work with the the Galaxy S6?
The requirements they write for it are :
Your device must support one of the following frequency
LTE Band 1 (2100MHz), Band 19 (800MHz), Band 21 (1500MHz)
W-CDMA/HSDPA/HSUPA Band 1 (2100MHz), Band 19 (800MHz)
Also says it must be unlocked SIM card but I believe that verizon's phones fit that.
Thanks in advance,
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I will be traveling to Japan and read that b-mobile offers a pre paid sim card for data. I see that they have every other galaxy phone listed as compatible but don't see the S6. I'm wondering if they just haven't updated it due to it being new or will it not work with the the Galaxy S6?
The requirements they write for it are :
Your device must support one of the following frequency
LTE Band 1 (2100MHz), Band 19 (800MHz), Band 21 (1500MHz)
W-CDMA/HSDPA/HSUPA Band 1 (2100MHz), Band 19 (800MHz)
Also says it must be unlocked SIM card but I believe that verizon's phones fit that.
Thanks in advance,
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I think you will only get 3G with b-mobile. The Verizon S6 doesn't seem to have the bands from b-mobile's 2G & 4G networks.
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Kenpachi 91 said:
I think you will only get 3G with b-mobile. The Verizon S6 doesn't seem to have the bands from b-mobile's 2G & 4G networks.
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Would that be fast enough to use google maps and read/send an occasional email? I mostly need it for those purposes.
I also have access to an older Iphone 4s (it was on verizon) but currently not activated on any carrier. Would that work better or would I need it activated w/ some carrier before I could swap the sims?
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firejr33 said:
Would that be fast enough to use google maps and read/send an occasional email? I mostly need it for those purposes.
I also have access to an older Iphone 4s (it was on verizon) but currently not activated on any carrier. Would that work better or would I need it activated w/ some carrier before I could swap the sims?
Thanks,
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I don't think the Verizon iPhone 4s would work. If got had an iPhone 5s, then that would have a better chance working. I thinks that's when Apple bragged about supporting numerous networks across the world. 3G should be fine for emails. Navigation wise, perhaps? Idk what b-mobile's 3G speeds average at.
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I don't think the Verizon iPhone 4s would work. If got had an iPhone 5s, then that would have a better chance working. I thinks that's when Apple bragged about supporting numerous networks across the world. 3G should be fine for emails. Navigation wise, perhaps? Idk what b-mobile's 3G speeds average at.
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I was actually told the 4s should work (although mb not 4g speeds). It's on their list of supported phones as well.. Too bad the s6 isn't.
Going to go to verizon tom. to have it unlocked and hopefully it will work with the sim card when I get to Japan.
Can someone please do me a huge favor? If you have a T-mobile note 5 and another Verizon 4g phone, and your note 5 is unlocked. Can you please pop the Verizon sim card into the note 5..
I have Verizon service and can't switch anytime soon, but I looked up the specs on the Verizon and T-Mobile Note 5 and they have the same bands. I want to buy an unlocked T-Mobile Note 5 so I can have root, but I need to make sure it will work on Verizon first.
T-MOBILE:
13 (700)
4 (1700/2100)
2 (1900
3 (1800)
7 (2600)
LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B20
LTE: 13(700), 4(1700/2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 7(2600), LTE CA 13+4 (10+10)
UMTS: 1/2/4/5;
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
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VERIZON:
13 (700)
4 (1700/2100)
2 (1900)
3 ( 1800)
7 (2600)
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20
LTE: 13(700), 4(1700/2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 7(2600), LTE CA 13+4 (10+10);
UMTS: 1/2/4/5
GPRS/EDGE/GSM(850/900/1800/1900)
HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
I thought Verizon didn't use sim cards? I read somewhere that Verizon and Sprint phones can be used with Att/Tmo but not the other way. Could be wrong though.
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Theoretically you could but only for data not sure if Verizon will let you. calling requires CDMA which our phone does not have. Attached Verizon specs.
Data works great. Just no calls nor text. Tried it for myself
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Data works great. Just no calls nor text. Tried it for myself
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Is there no way to force VoLTE on Verizon for calling and messaging? I was just gifted an unlocked T-mobile Note 5, but I'm on Verizon.
I have no idea. I traded the phone away a couple days ago for a edge plus
Ya I am in same boat as you , I'm waiting for my note 5 tmobile to be unlocked , I will let you as soon as possible , 1 to 2 days hopefully
Tested mine with the latest update, temp unlock method selected. No dice with VZW, but I could access ATT service, so I know the unlock was successful.
Jbramont said:
Is there no way to force VoLTE on Verizon for calling and messaging? I was just gifted an unlocked T-mobile Note 5, but I'm on Verizon.
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No. Not that I am aware of. Volte is registered on vzw sides and requires an approved phone to activate. The only option you might have is a close to stock vzw note 5 rom
Just to answer an old question
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re: Verizon Note 5 / S6 Edge+ phones.
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No. Not that I am aware of. Volte is registered on vzw sides and requires an approved phone to activate. The only option you might have is a close to stock vzw note 5 rom
Just to answer an old question
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There is no such thing as a Verizon Note 5 rom.
So far the Verizon Note 5 phone is not root-able at
all, check out the Verizon Note 5 XDA forum and
see for yourself.
None of the Verizon Samsung Note 5 or the Verizon S6 Edge+ phones are root-able.
(just like the AT&T Note 5 and the AT&T S6 Edge+ in xda forums are not root-able.)
But in any case Good luck, and have a very Merry Christmas.