Anybody using straight talk? I'm in jacksonville fl with the moto g, using an ATT sim. I'm also using the global version. I seem to be getting about 3-5 mbits tops. Does anybody know if the US version would be faster being that it has different bands?
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runsoverfrogs said:
Anybody using straight talk? I'm in jacksonville fl with the moto g, using an ATT sim. I'm also using the global version. I seem to be getting about 3-5 mbits tops. Does anybody know if the US version would be faster being that it has different bands?
thanks,
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The US version has 1700 AWS which means 1700/2100 which can access H+ speeds up to 21 mpbs.
serophia said:
The US version has 1700 AWS which means 1700/2100 which can access H+ speeds up to 21 mpbs.
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oh crap, is that why my speeds are awful right now?
runsoverfrogs said:
oh crap, is that why my speeds are awful right now?
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Most likely seeing as how 3G/H varies from 1-7 mbps. My device hasn't shipped yet so when i get my 16 gb U.S version ill see if it actually matters or not between both versions. Also im not sure as well could be that the area you are in is congested with other people using AT&T can cause data speed to fluctuates.
runsoverfrogs said:
oh crap, is that why my speeds are awful right now?
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It's normal, and it depends on your location. Hspa+ 21 means it's MAX is 21 Mbps, but you'll rarely achieve the max.
The only difference between global and US versions is that US has the 1700 AWS, which is what Tmobile uses for their 3G (They call it 4G high speed). For ATT / straightalk, both models shouldn't show any speed difference because 1700 AWS is not required..
On Tmobile :
- My LG L9 has hspa+ 21 (same as Moto G), and I was getting 3-5 Mbps at work.
- My Nexus 4's hspa+ 42 gets about 6-9 Mbps at the same place.
- My LG G2 LTE gets about 11-15 Mbps.
There are locations in my city where I can get double their respective speeds. I expect my Moto G (when it gets delivered) to be the same as my L9.
Were you able to successfully get MMS working on your phone with at&t straight talk? If so what are your APN settings?
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Hey guys!
Is there a way we can disable the 4G connection and only use 3G? Any help that you guys can as provide will be greatly appreciated!
There is no 4G in Atrix2. Is just a marketing ATT does.
4G = 3G
Shaliuno said:
There is no 4G in Atrix2. Is just a marketing ATT does.
4G = 3G
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4G LTE = LTE (our phone doesn't support it)
4G = 3G + extra stuff to be better... but still techically 4G as it's AT&T's 4th generation of technology
3G = 3G
But I don't think that there's a way you can disable "4G" and only use 3G... you can disable 3G/4G and only use 2G though.
ATRIX 2 supports 21mbit hspa+ that's what they call 4G. 3g is really just slower versions of hspa+ for us. Post above is correct about LTE. LTE is better than hspa+ also.
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Shaliuno said:
There is no 4G in Atrix2. Is just a marketing ATT does.
4G = 3G
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my wifes iphone 4 must suck then.
hers is a "3g" and gets about 1.25 mbps
my atrix 2 4G gets 4.45 mbps
i think 4g is a bunch faster than 3g.....
or its just that the iphone a generally crap.
take your pick i suppose.
matt99017d said:
my wifes iphone 4 must suck then.
hers is a "3g" and gets about 1.25 mbps
my atrix 2 4G gets 4.45 mbps
i think 4g is a bunch faster than 3g.....
or its just that the iphone a generally crap.
take your pick i suppose.
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Well it's both really .
But our phone is about as fast as you can get on AT&T's network without using LTE. The OG Atrix also was "4G" but it was only 14.x mb/sec while our A2's radio supports up to 21.x mb/sec (or something around there). The iPhone X's only support 3G.
extide said:
ATRIX 2 supports 21mbit hspa+ that's what they call 4G. 3g is really just slower versions of hspa+ for us. Post above is correct about LTE. LTE is better than hspa+ also.
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Not too sure what you guys are meaning when you say better....
I was interested in the differences a while back and after researching around quite a bit, found that the speeds really depended on the phone's programming more so than whether it was LTE or HSPA+.
cowenby said:
Not too sure what you guys are meaning when you say better....
I was interested in the differences a while back and after researching around quite a bit, found that the speeds really depended on the phone's programming more so than whether it was LTE or HSPA+.
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LTE has higher bandwidth, and is less populated. HSPA+ can go up to 21mbit, yes, (which is less than LTE) BUT most AT&T HSPA+ deployments are 7mbit or 14mbit.
HSPA+ users typically see ~4-5mbit or so, maybe up to 7mbit on a 14.4mbit cell, but LTE users typically can see 9-11mbit+.
The best speedtest I have ever gotten on my phone was in the 5mbit range. SLC only has 7mbit HSPA+ from what I can tell, and since AT&T is going to LTE, it appears they wont be upgrading the HSPA+ network any more.
you're lucky. Around my area all you can get is 2-3 mbs.
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you're lucky. Around my area all you can get is 2-3 mbs.
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Thats what I usually get too, but if I am right near a cell tower I can get the ~5mbit speeds.
Yeah, "4G" is actually HSPA+, which AT&T actually was going to call 3G+. The 4G crap came around because T-Mobile marketed it that way and if AT&T stuck with 3G+ they took the risk of people thinking T-Mobile was faster and losing customers. LTE was what they planned to call 4G.
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Thats what I usually get too, but if I am right near a cell tower I can get the ~5mbit speeds.
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Yeah, i'm in Orlando and normally getting 2-4 mbps...
I visited Boston a few Weeks ago and was getting 13!!!!!
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Their hspa+ is like 3.5 g its def better then reg 3g
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I feel as if their labeling of 4g was a bit deceiving as well but its understandable if it was meant to keep up with TMobile because of all the confusion between 4g and 4g lte.
The good news is that I don't believe our 4g is as battery-consuming as 4g lte, its probably about the same as regular 3g.
If you're wanting to limit it to 2g though there is a way to do it even though the menu is left out from our 'Settings'. Use anycut to get to network settings directly and choose GSM only.
At least T-Mobile's HSPA+ is significantly faster than "3G" - not an entirely undeserved title for them. ATT...not so much.
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At least T-Mobile's HSPA+ is significantly faster than "3G" - not an entirely undeserved title for them. ATT...not so much.
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i got 13mbs on at&t so it works good for me
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i got 13mbs on at&t so it works good for me
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That's pretty good. Max I've seen is 11mbit down.
I didn't believe it at first so I reran the speedtest a couple times to make sure.
Mine has topped out around 9Mbps, sadly.
It's not throughput that's bad on a decent 3G network, a lot of time's it's the latency. Meh. Whatever. Long live LTE.
I ran just ran the speedtest.net app and I have 7.20 mbps down and 1.13 up here in Atlanta. Thats even better than basic dsl albiet cable beats it easily....
From what I hear the 1900mhz band for T-Mobile in Vegas gets 4g speeds. Wondering if anyone out there has an international phone model and can tell us about the speeds. I made the mistake about buying the International model, because it's black. I love this phone even though I lack 4g speeds currently, but I'm curious at what's coming.
Thank You
bsd1101 said:
From what I hear the 1900mhz band for T-Mobile in Vegas gets 4g speeds. Wondering if anyone out there has an international phone model and can tell us about the speeds. I made the mistake about buying the International model, because it's black. I love this phone even though I lack 4g speeds currently, but I'm curious at what's coming.
Thank You
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The international version and the T-Mo branded device have the same radios. They read the same frequencies. There would be NO difference in performance. What you can do it change your build.prop for T-Mo specifics or install a T-Mo based ROM. Either way, there should be no differences with 4G.
No they don't. Currently only the T-Mobile one S supports 4g speeds.
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No they don't. Currently only the T-Mobile one S supports 4g speeds.
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I've run us radios and eu radios... It's the same firmware for the same hardware. Any difference in performance is ROM based
Here's the deal:
Before refarm:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G+/4G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100
After refarm:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800
3G+/4G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
All depends on where you are (location/tower)
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I've run us radios and eu radios... It's the same firmware for the same hardware. Any difference in performance is ROM based
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The international model does not have AWS bands though from what all info online says.
mbh87 said:
The international model does not have AWS bands though from what all info online says.
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For a second I was starting to doubt myself.
bsd1101 said:
For a second I was starting to doubt myself.
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Btw the refarm in Las Vegas is done, so if you are in Vegas (as i am) and are not seeing "4g" speeds yet, you likely never will. I now get hspa+ speeds in some areas where i used to get edge speeds.
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Btw the refarm in Las Vegas is done, so if you are in Vegas (as i am) and are not seeing "4g" speeds, you never will.
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I'm in NY. I'm asking because I wanted to know what kind of speeds people were getting. Hopefully by middle of next year I'll get them. If not sooner I hope.
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I'm in NY. I'm asking because I wanted to know what kind of speeds people were getting. Hopefully by middle of next year I'll get them. If not sooner I hope.
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International version should max out at a theoretical 21 Mb. So maybe speeds around 11 Mb for you.
Hey, I have a Moto G (XT1032) international version. I was wondering how everyone's data speeds were, I am using the "phone" apn and where I live (IL, US) I get 0.1-3mbps. I don't think im getting the speeds i should be getting on ATT's HSPA+ network. I've heard of the enhanced backhaul and how it increases speeds but I don't really know anything about it. Any suggestions?
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Hey, I have a Moto G (XT1032) international version. I was wondering how everyone's data speeds were, I am using the "phone" apn and where I live (IL, US) I get 0.1-3mbps. I don't think im getting the speeds i should be getting on ATT's HSPA+ network. I've heard of the enhanced backhaul and how it increases speeds but I don't really know anything about it. Any suggestions?
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Download Phone Testing by Diewland in Playstore and set preferred network to "WCDMA ONLY" this will keep it on 3G. I assume its on 2g hence the slow dataspeeds.
Moto G ATT HSPA+ speeds
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Download Phone Testing by Diewland in Playstore and set preferred network to "WCDMA ONLY" this will keep it on 3G. I assume its on 2g hence the slow dataspeeds.
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Thanks serophia, I ran a speed test right after that and I got 3mbps download, which is much better then what I was getting but I was looking for the 5-6mbps that other people get on their hspa+ smartphones
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Thanks serophia, I ran a speed test right after that and I got 3mbps download, which is much better then what I was getting but I was looking for the 5-6mbps that other people get on their hspa+ smartphones
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Your probably in a congested area, i also get around 3 mbps near my house but downtown area i get up to 7 mbps highest i ever gotten was 9.74.
So I've acquired a Verizon M8 and looking at the possibility of getting it fully functional on AT&T LTE. Haven't found anything through search yet other than it doesn't work stock. Flashing new radio? AT&T Rom?
nothinbutnick56 said:
So I've acquired a Verizon M8 and looking at the possibility of getting it fully functional on AT&T LTE. Haven't found anything through search yet other than it doesn't work stock. Flashing new radio? AT&T Rom?
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I had one and couldn't even get it to run 3G or HSPA+. Only thing i could get it to run was Edge. Not to sure why but I sold it. Have you had any luck getting 3G at least?
http://gigaom.com/2013/07/10/att-is...performance-tests-heres-atts-explanation-why/
Show it.
nothinbutnick56 said:
So I've acquired a Verizon M8 and looking at the possibility of getting it fully functional on AT&T LTE. Haven't found anything through search yet other than it doesn't work stock. Flashing new radio? AT&T Rom?
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I used this same data in another thread, figured it might be useful here. Basically, you'd potentially restrict yourself a great deal by using a Verizon M8 on AT&T's network.
I think we need to know what’s theoretically possible with these phones first. Here is what the Verizon M8 has the ability to use:
3G (GSM): 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
LTE: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
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Source: M8 spec page
As it currently stands, these are the 3G and LTE frequencies for AT&T:
3G: 850/1900 MHz up to 21 Mbps
LTE: 700/AWS/1900/2300 MHz
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List of LTE networks - Wikipedia
AT&T Mobility - Wikipedia
What this means is that the Verizon M8 would only be able to use AT&T's 3G up to 14.4 Mbps and not the full 21 Mbps (probably not a big deal). However, for LTE, it could only access 700 MHz and AWS, so you'd be out of luck if you're in an area that only has 1900 or 2300 MHz.
Again, this is all theoretical since it’s not totally easy to get a carrier-specific model to run LTE on another network, but someone had luck getting a Verizon model to run on T-Mobile’s network: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710720
Hi there,
I just got my verizon htc one m8 but I was wondering will this phone works with at&t sim card? Can I receive AT&T 4G LTE signals?
Any helps are welcomed.
Thanks in advance.
No, the verizon m8 runs on the CDMA network whereas the ATT m8 runs on GSM. Sorry man
p2kmafia said:
No, the verizon m8 runs on the CDMA network whereas the ATT m8 runs on GSM. Sorry man
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Wrong... It does have GSM to fallback on but you will only get HSPA+ at best. No LTE
shojus said:
Wrong... It does have GSM to fallback on but you will only get HSPA+ at best. No LTE
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sorry for my ignorance,HSPA+ means regular 4g??
denpad2010 said:
sorry for my ignorance,HSPA+ means regular 4g??
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As far as I'm aware, HSPA+ is just a slightly faster 3G.
zacwilliam said:
As far as I'm aware, HSPA+ is just a slightly faster 3G.
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HSPA+ is about 4-10mbps download in my area versus about 1mbps down with 3g.
shojus said:
HSPA+ is about 4-10mbps download in my area versus about 1mbps down with 3g.
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Wow really? I used to get anywhere from 1-3 mbps with 3G on Verizon, versus 4-6 with HSPA+ on AT&T.
zacwilliam said:
Wow really? I used to get anywhere from 1-3 mbps with 3G on Verizon, versus 4-6 with HSPA+ on AT&T.
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All in where ya live I guess and which provider you have. Sometimes my HSPA+ is quicker than my T-Mobile Lte...
I'm thinking about using an upgrade on a flip phone I have on Verizon to get this phone.
How hard would it be to get it to work on Straight Talk and since they use AT&T's network, would I be able to get HSPA+ too?
Thanks in advance!
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hspa and hspa+
hspa is 3g 850mhz 1.5mbps tops and hspa+ is "4g" 1900mhz 5-20mpbs tops which is really like a 3.9g theres a story behind this but im only answering the question which is which so pretty much this device is ready for either bands just check who's got those bands and you are ready to go ohh by the way no LTE if it isnt with verizon peace im out im batmaaaaaaaaaaaaan!
Because Verizon’s 4G LTE devices use SIM cards, that means many of them (the global-ready ones, anyway) are compatible with the regular 3G/2G GSM bands used everywhere else in the world (no LTE, however). When traveling, simply pop in a prepaid SIM card, configure the APN settings with the network you’ll be using the phone on, and boom. You’re up and running on 3G. Same goes for AT&T in the US (again, no LTE because of incompatible bands).
It does get AT&T LTE, I have a GoPhone account with AT&T and get LTE with my M8. Only in some areas, get about 70% hspa, and LTE the rest, just depends on your location and the AT&T LTE bands used in your area, but the M8 does get LTE