I'm aware there are multiple threads about tethering (sorry for creating a new one) and how they charge you or monitor you if you go over 2.5GB or 5GB but im still confused. Alot of the post are takling about using the $15 plan.
Can anyone give me a quick and clear answer to this question? Heres my situation
1. I have the ATT FUZE with the $30 Unlimited Data Plan.
2. I plan to only use this when i don't have access to Wifi
3. I stream from my Slingbox and Orb occassionally and sometimes youtube.
4. I want to play counter Strike occassionaly usually for 2 hour session when im stuck in hotel rooms.
When i plug in the USB cable i'm presented with Menu and choose Internet Sharing and am able to to connect to the Media Net connection just fine. Should I be using this or a different setting.
Is there a way to monitor the data usage and cap it at 2GB ir 4.5GB so I don't go over 5GB?
I don't understand the difference with the $30 and $60 tethering plan. If they both cap you at 5GB/month whats the point in getting the $60 if you can tether with the $30 plan.
Have you tried playing a game over 3G? It is extremely lagy, ping times are about 250ms
Tekka said:
I'm aware there are multiple threads about tethering (sorry for creating a new one) and how they charge you or monitor you if you go over 2.5GB or 5GB but im still confused. Alot of the post are takling about using the $15 plan.
Can anyone give me a quick and clear answer to this question? Heres my situation
1. I have the ATT FUZE with the $30 Unlimited Data Plan.
2. I plan to only use this when i don't have access to Wifi
3. I stream from my Slingbox and Orb occassionally and sometimes youtube.
4. I want to play counter Strike occassionaly usually for 2 hour session when im stuck in hotel rooms.
When i plug in the USB cable i'm presented with Menu and choose Internet Sharing and am able to to connect to the Media Net connection just fine. Should I be using this or a different setting.
Is there a way to monitor the data usage and cap it at 2GB ir 4.5GB so I don't go over 5GB?
I don't understand the difference with the $30 and $60 tethering plan. If they both cap you at 5GB/month whats the point in getting the $60 if you can tether with the $30 plan.
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Ill break it down for ya
Media Net.. For non PDA devices.
Pda Personal.. For Pda devices.
Tether.. (self explanatory) plus it allows data on the device itself.
Monitor Data... Use online account manager or *DATA#
Now there is a way to tether with media net. But you need to read the existing threads I have spent hours explaining.
If you have any other questions P.M. me
So what happens if you set up wifi tethering and start using it without a tethering plan?
Do they know automatically or do they attempt to guess based on increases in data usage?
This would be using the menu options available to you under Network settings in STOCK (not rooted).
there no tethering plan with t-mobile you can wifi tether all you want. But if they do see that you're hitting your cap quickly lets say in a 3 month period. they'll text you if you want to upgrade.
when I was picking up my mt4gs, I overheard a rep trying to sell people an additional tethering plan. is that for unlimited tethering? I wanted to walk up to them and tell them I have been tethering since the G1 without any additional plan... the only real issue is getting throttled, but most months I don't hit the data cap.
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when I was picking up my mt4gs, I overheard a rep trying to sell people an additional tethering plan. is that for unlimited tethering? I wanted to walk up to them and tell them I have been tethering since the G1 without any additional plan... the only real issue is getting throttled, but most months I don't hit the data cap.
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Well the rep that sold me my MT4GS said that they don't throttle automatically. He had one customer use 200+GB before he was throttled. Apparently it's hit or miss anyway and he basically talked me into a lower data rate because of it.
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If you attempt to tether or do wi-fi sharing on any T-mobile phone that is capable of it one of four things will happen.. Either
A) it will fail...
B) Any browsing attempt will re-direct you to T-mobile.com
C) You will automatically get directed to a page that prompts you to call Customer care to add the $14.99/month Tethering and Wi-Fi sharing feature
D) It will allow you to browse a certain amount and then give you the above page.
The feature has to be on the account for tethering to work long term.. Even if you get away with it for a short time, eventually they will catch you and shut you off until you add the feature. The $14.99/month allows you to share whatever data is on your phone (2GB, 5GB, 10GB) with the phone and Tethering... SO... If you have the 5GB data plan, you get 5GB to share between tethering and your regular phone data usage, then speeds get slowed down to approx 100kbps after that until the bill cycle resets.
Like i told you before there is no tethering plan for t-mobile. My gf tether her phone with her iPad all the time. Nothing had happen so far.
Say that now, but I am guaranteeing you that T-mobile will catch up with her eventually.. There IS a tethering plan and you can call T-mobile and and verify that whenever you want.
Brock6949 said:
Say that now, but I am guaranteeing you that T-mobile will catch up with her eventually.. There IS a tethering plan and you can call T-mobile and and verify that whenever you want.
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I've been tethering since 2008 without a plan.
perhaps it has something to do with new data plans? I've had a grandfathered data plan for years.
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I've been tethering since 2008 without a plan.
perhaps it has something to do with new data plans? I've had a grandfathered data plan for years.
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Same and I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan that comes with unlimited texts for only $35. Been tethering forever.
I think he's just making it up. hahaha
A grandfathered plan may be the reason you are still able to tether, but I will tell you that I am a T-mobile employee who works in the phone as modem department and there IS a tethering plan that t-mobile does charge for... Infact, go to t-mobile's website and search for "Tethering" and then look at all of the official documents for tethering with different devices and they will all mention the tethering and wi-fi sharing feature.
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A grandfathered plan may be the reason you are still able to tether, but I will tell you that I am a T-mobile employee who works in the phone as modem department and there IS a tethering plan that t-mobile does charge for... Infact, go to t-mobile's website and search for "Tethering" and then look at all of the official documents for tethering with different devices and they will all mention the tethering and wi-fi sharing feature.
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I tethered my Touch Pro 2 a few times after they introduced tethering and nothing ever became...
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I tethered my Touch Pro 2 a few times after they introduced tethering and nothing ever became...
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A few times may not have been enough for you to get the message... There is a preset threshold you have to meet or exceed to get the message about the tethering plan.. THey have not told any of us what that threshold is (for obvious reasons)
and even if you don't get the message right away, at some point our system will flag the account... Trust me, I field these calls 5 days a week.
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A few times may not have been enough for you to get the message... There is a preset threshold you have to meet or exceed to get the message about the tethering plan.. THey have not told any of us what that threshold is (for obvious reasons)
and even if you don't get the message right away, at some point our system will flag the account... Trust me, I field these calls 5 days a week.
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So how can they tell that it's tethering data vs. data from the phone? Especially since I can set my browser to desktop mode. Well, I'm too lazy to do it but if tethering ever goes to court, service providers will lose.
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There is no way to tell between tethering and phone data... it's all lumped together... even when you add the tethering feature (if the system makes you) you get your data shared with your cell data usage so on a non grandfathered rate plan you get 2gb,5gb, or 10gb to share between tethering and phone data usage.
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There is no way to tell between tethering and phone data... it's all lumped together... even when you add the tethering feature (if the system makes you) you get your data shared with your cell data usage so on a non grandfathered rate plan you get 2gb,5gb, or 10gb to share between tethering and phone data usage.
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So tethering won't get caught...
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HTTP traffic is TCP which means it's encoded in ASCII which makes it really easy to scan what goes over the line. In those HTTP headers they can check what the user-agent is as well as the time-to-live setting on each packet which will be different from a windows desktop connection.
However it's possible to mask this. I could in theory make an SSH connection from the phone to an SSH server I have on the internet and tunnel all my tethering through that. It would be very difficult to prove tethering at that point because it would be masked behind the phone's connection to a server.
That all being said. In real world usage I might only tether once or twice a month in what basically amounts to not much more bandwidth usage then normal.
Also. The telecom providers are very backhanded about tethering. We made tethering possible before they knew what the **** tethering even meant. I've been doing this since before most people understood what it means to tether. And I signed up for my unlimited plan back when unlimited meant unlimited. So uh..... T-mo can go **** itself if they expect me to pay extra. lol.
-my 2 cents
Akujin said:
We made tethering possible before they knew what the **** tethering even meant. I've been doing this since before most people understood what it means to tether. And I signed up for my unlimited plan back when unlimited meant unlimited. So uh..... T-mo can go **** itself if they expect me to pay extra. lol.
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YES!
Tethered on my MDA before I even used the word!
Theoretically based on some of the statements here of how PC band with flows, I should be able to tether my Acer A500 tablet without any problems or discovery.
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I know on Sprint that using tethering does not come out of your phone's data bucket but instead wifi hotspot/tether has a seperate tethering bucket it pulls from.
Is this the same if you PAY for tethering on TMobile? Or will it use my phones bucket of data?
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You can use it for free as long you don't exceed your plan's limit. It counts against your data allowance, but if you continuously go over the limit, T-Mobile will send you a notice. And if you disregard it they will block the tethering on your phone. Now, if you buy a tethering plan, it will be separate from your phone's data plan.
i'm a customer service representative, I've been working for TMOUS for the past 4 years.
Wi Fi calling, has nothing to do with your capped data package ie 200 mb/ 2GB/ 5gb/ 10gb plans.. Wifi calling feature is using your source of cable or dsl connect via wireless router.
IF you're worried you many use all your minutes, then call 611 and ask your agent to add the free unlimited wifi calling. simple.
second part, hotspot is kinda different, its tethering using the data service and yes this can cause reduced speeds. no separate bucket, just the one i mention above... keep track of your usage by dailing #963# and hit the call key.
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danperde said:
You can use it for free as long you don't exceed your plan's limit. It counts against your data allowance, but if you continuously go over the limit, T-Mobile will send you a notice. And if you disregard it they will block the tethering on your phone. Now, if you buy a tethering plan, it will be separate from your phone's data plan.
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my network will let you use it free for about 100 mb before, you receive a text message requesting you call tmous cs to add tether to your account per line using this feature at $15 per month. (you can't be with the 200mb plan) >
the network reads the mac address of your computer.. ipods and simple device seems to slip by without alert.
Oh im nlt worried about WiFi calling. I know how that works and never have to use it...
But i have the Preferred Android Web plan.. Which is basically still 5gb of data. Ive also worked for TMobile for 3yrs up until this feature was released. I now work for At&t ironically lol.
But our tethering at at&t uses different data.. So the data you use for apps and mobile web aren't touched by tethering.
It uses a separate 5gb of data for tethering so it basically it's own data plan when you pay for it that way separately.
So basically, if i pay for tethering package on TMobile im STILL using my same 5gb mobile data and not a separate 5gb tethering bucket, right???
I hope you actually get what i mean.
Thanks.
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Forgive me if this is not the best forum for this question.
I am on sprinit with unlimited data. Its been great when I am away and can tether my laptop from my phone (thanks kenny!). I never worry about data since its unlimited.
If I go to att or verizon (or t mobile), and they have a cap does tethering affect my cap? I would assume if it does then I assume I would hit 3 or 4 GB rather quickly.
Yes, it does.
Tethering counts as data usage, and goes against your cap.
did anyone reversing your plan its because you can bypass it? right now I'm on $70 plan 50 for unlimited calls and text and $20 for unlimited 4G data. as advertised (unlimited data on browsing mobile 2.5GB on mobile hotspot) 2.5GB lol I'm on 20gb now and it keeps on going
ad78 said:
did anyone reversing your plan its because you can bypass it? right now I'm on $70 plan 50 for unlimited calls and text and $20 for unlimited 4G data. as advertised (unlimited data on browsing mobile 2.5GB on mobile hotspot) 2.5GB lol I'm on 20gb now and it keeps on going
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I imagine it is much easier for T-mobiles automated system to track total data usage vs tethered data usage.
I know I used to have the 2GB plan, and getting throttled sucks. My question is, why do you need to tether 20 gb a month?
Also, why does everyone on this forum trying to find ways around paying their bills? At first I thought people were having real issues tethering, then I realized people are having issues tethering, that didn't have tethering on their plans. And were COMPLAINING that they couldn't tether.