[Q] TWRP vs CWM in radio issues - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I've heard a ton about twrp botching the n5's radio on flash. Mainly, my question is if either twrp or cwm is fixed in this regard. Also, is it as easy to fix as:
root -> radio gets messed up on new ROM -> download factory image -> fastboot flash the radio img -> no signal issues?
Thanks.
EDIT: Also, if my signal goes down should I flash the 4.4.1 or 4.4 radio?

First I've heard of twrp botching the radio.

jd1639 said:
First I've heard of twrp botching the radio.
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Must have fixed it then. Whew.
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shbaldw said:
Must have fixed it then. Whew.
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2.6.3.4 fixed pretty much all of the big issues. I've been wiping cache and other things with it, no issues.

The radio botching happens when restoring a backup from a different nexus 5 in twrp. As the efs partition is device specific and restored in twrp it breaks the radio because of the mismatch in information.
If your signal is weaker in 4.4.2 the recommended is going with the 4.4 radio
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Alex240188 said:
The radio botching happens when restoring a backup from a different nexus 5 in twrp. As the efs partition is device specific and restored in twrp it breaks the radio because of the mismatch in information.
If your signal is weaker in 4.4.2 the recommended is going with the 4.4 radio
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Don't backup the efs partition. Who does that anyway. Do it once and save it off device.

As Alex said, it isn't exactly TWRP killing the radio. The problem is that TWRP puts powerful tools such as EFS restore in the hands of people who don't know what EFS is. A few people (myself included) didn't know better and flashed the EFS from our previous phone to the new one, resulting in pain, tears and lots of ice cream consumption.
As I said, do not blame TWRP for borking the radio. But maybe blame them for giving rocket launchers to deer hunters.

leblvin said:
As Alex said, it isn't exactly TWRP killing the radio. The problem is that TWRP puts powerful tools such as EFS restore in the hands of people who don't know what EFS is. A few people (myself included) didn't know better and flashed the EFS from our previous phone to the new one, resulting in pain, tears and lots of ice cream consumption.
As I said, do not blame TWRP for borking the radio. But maybe blame them for giving rocket launchers to deer hunters.
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Yea, that would not be a good thing to do

Alright. I'll back up the EFS to my computer and flash away. Thanks, all of you.
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Having service issues.Please help

My phone was working perfectly on Koush's ICS Alpha 8. I decided to flash a different radio, KF1, and after flashing it I got 0 service. It won't grab any service. I've wiped multiple times, and formatted everything possible from the Recovery menus. I flashed over like 5 other Radios, and still wont work. I don't really understand this.
anyone know what to do?
Have you flashed a different rom? If so, you should probably try a stock ROM. Does the radio show the correct version in the rom?
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Try restoring back to stock.
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I guess I'll restore to entire stock. Though I did re-flash a CM build, and still had the problem.
It shows the radio version in about phone as the correct one too. It's just an odd situation, but I'll restore to stock and see if it fixes anything.
Just FYI, anyone that ahs this problem, odds are your efs was corrupt or formatted.
I flashed a new Radio, and I suppose it somehow wiped over my efs partition.
Anywho, I used this app: http://www.nexussforum.net/nexus-s-apps/(app)-efs-backup-and-restore/msg9658/
And restored a backup I had. Hope you have a backup!

Serious issues trying to flash new rom!

Ok, I have an AT&T HTC One X. I have already rooted the phone and I have been running Venom Rom successfully for quite some time now. I decided I wanted to give some other roms a try today and I am running into some weird issues that I can't seem to figure out. To clarify my set up, I am not trying to run any custom kernels or anything that would potentially cause the issues I am experiencing. The roms I have tried and had these issues on are King Kang, Paranoid Android, and CM 10 official. With each the issues are always the same. First of all, I can't even type anything because Android Keyboard keeps force closing. Secondly, none of my hardware keys work at all except the back key, volume rocker, and power (home and recent apps do not function at all except to vibrate). Basically it leaves the phone completely unusable. I have gone back to Venom Rom for now because I have NEVER had any issues out of it. If anyone has any ideas why I am being plagued with these issues I would appreciate some feedback because I can't seem to find anyone else experiencing these kinds of issues honestly. Also I might add that I used a method to downgrade my HBOOT to, I believe, 1.09 instead of 1.14 because of the need to flash kernels separately with 1.14. My phone has worked flawlessly installing any ICS roms. This seems to only happen with JB roms. Thanks for your help in advance guys!
Factory reset in TWRP, and wipe Dalvik and cache before flashing any new ROM?
And to confirm, you are flashing the respective boot.img extracted from each ROM file, every time you've flashed a new ROM?
redpoint73 said:
Factory reset in TWRP, and wipe Dalvik and cache before flashing any new ROM?
And to confirm, you are flashing the respective boot.img extracted from each ROM file, every time you've flashed a new ROM?
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Yeah, I of course did a factory reset and wiped cache and dalvik.
As far as the boot.img, I was under the impression that was only necessary for those with HBOOT 1.14 which is why I reverted my HBOOT. That was the only reason I have read anywhere to have the extract the boot.img. I am not new to Android or rooting.
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Yeah, I of course did a factory reset and wiped cache and dalvik.
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If you don't tell us, we don't know. Its a common mistake, and better to ask, rather than the possibility of your issue just being something simple like not wiping.
guitarjuggalo said:
As far as the boot.img, I was under the impression that was only necessary for those with HBOOT 1.14 which is why I reverted my HBOOT. That was the only reason I have read anywhere to have the extract the boot.img. I am not new to Android or rooting.
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Ah, I see I read that part too quickly. Confirm on the hboot screen that you are in fact on hboot 1.09, since you seem unsure.
And you are on TWRP, not CWM right?
Yea he wouldn't even boot up if he was on 1.14...
OP, are you doing a titanium backup?
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redpoint73 said:
If you don't tell us, we don't know. Its a common mistake, and better to ask, rather than the possibility of your issue just being something simple like not wiping.
Ah, I see I read that part too quickly. Confirm on the hboot screen that you are in fact on hboot 1.09, since you seem unsure.
And you are on TWRP, not CWM right?
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Yes, I am on 1.09 for sure and using TWRP.
InflatedTitan said:
Yea he wouldn't even boot up if he was on 1.14...
OP, are you doing a titanium backup?
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No, I haven't done a titanium backup. When things didn't work for whatever reason in any of those roms I just went back to the nandroid backup I had for Venom Rom that I did before jumping to any of those roms.
That's odd... usually a 100% fresh install comes out with good results lol.
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InflatedTitan said:
That's odd... usually a 100% fresh install comes out with good results lol.
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Yeah, it is very weird. I have never encountered these kind of issues. I have been using android since the original G1 on T-Mobile and haven't encountered issues with roms this horrible. Installing any of those roms makes my phone pretty much unusable. All 3 of them (haven't tried others) exhibit the same issues. Android keyboard force closes over and over again and won't ever pull up, and the home and recent apps buttons don't work at all. Also just about any Google app or service I tried to use was crashing out.
What are you using to download?
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What are you using to download?
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Downloading through wi-fi on my computer and sending it to the phone via USB. Also dried downloading directly to the phone over wi-fi. Results are all the same.
So, it appears that nobody has an answer?
Did you check the md5 of the zip before flashing?
I had a problem where the Rom would install fine but issues loading. Md5 of the zip on my pc was good but was bad on my sdcard. Got messed up while transferring I guess.
Also try updating to latest twrp
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Make sure you aren't flashing 4.2 gapps on a 4.1 ROM. That could cause a lot of Google app FCs.
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lauterm said:
Make sure you aren't flashing 4.2 gapps on a 4.1 ROM. That could cause a lot of Google app FCs.
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I officially feel retarded. Thank you so much! That was indeed the issue. FML lol :good: :victory:
Its amazing that gapps controls so much that it even screwed my hardware keys with the wrong version. I really appreciate all the suggestions guys.

[Q] Getting bsod after reboot on Liquid Smooth

Hi. I recently installed Liquid Smooth (Unofficial) 4.3 onto my Skyrocket. Since install, if I reboot the phone it will get the ever dreaded Black Screen Of Death. The only way I've found to fix this is to clear the data partition in my recovery (TWRP updated to most recent version) and then reflash the ROM and the gapps. Any ideas on how to keep the BSOD from happening again? I've tried everything I can think of. I tried just wiping the dalvek, cache and system and then flashing the ROM again. As I said, the only way I can find to "fix" it is to wipe the data partition and then flash the ROM and gapps again. I would have asked in that specific thread, but since I am a new member I can't until I reach the 10 post requirement.
CoolWolf22 said:
Hi. I recently installed Liquid Smooth (Unofficial) 4.3 onto my Skyrocket. Since install, if I reboot the phone it will get the ever dreaded Black Screen Of Death. The only way I've found to fix this is to clear the data partition in my recovery (TWRP updated to most recent version) and then reflash the ROM and the gapps. Any ideas on how to keep the BSOD from happening again? I've tried everything I can think of. I tried just wiping the dalvek, cache and system and then flashing the ROM again. As I said, the only way I can find to "fix" it is to wipe the data partition and then flash the ROM and gapps again. I would have asked in that specific thread, but since I am a new member I can't until I reach the 10 post requirement.
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Try using the latest CWM recovery. Some people are reporting having better luck using this for the BSOD issue.
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jondroid2 said:
Try using the latest CWM recovery. Some people are reporting having better luck using this for the BSOD issue.
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I will try this and will get back to you. I'd still like to know what's causing the issue in the first place. I've been flashing on Samsung devices since the original Epic 4G launched. Never have had any issues like this before.
CoolWolf22 said:
I will try this and will get back to you. I'd still like to know what's causing the issue in the first place. I've been flashing on Samsung devices since the original Epic 4G launched. Never have had any issues like this before.
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I've had the same issue and switching to cwm solved it. It's a real pita though as a prefer twrp and my nandroids are twrp. I switch back and forth between them.
jd1639 said:
I've had the same issue and switching to cwm solved it. It's a real pita though as a prefer twrp and my nandroids are twrp. I switch back and forth between them.
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CWM fixed my BSOD. I've had 2 successful reboots so far. I too preferred TWRP over CWM. But oh well. I am in contact with the devs for TWRP to see if they are aware of the issue and can issue a fix for it.
CoolWolf22 said:
CWM fixed my BSOD. I've had 2 successful reboots so far. I too preferred TWRP over CWM. But oh well. I am in contact with the devs for TWRP to see if they are aware of the issue and can issue a fix for it.
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There's an build of TWRP 2.7 that I've been using and haven't had any issues with. The only thing "wrong" with it is it only reads internal storage. Here's the Link
theesotericone said:
There's an build of TWRP 2.7 that I've been using and haven't had any issues with. The only thing "wrong" with it is it only reads internal storage. Here's the Link
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Thanks. I'll download that and keep it in reserve for future reference.

[Q] Any way to recover lost EFS?

Ok, so I probably know the answer to this already :crying:
Brief story - stock rooted ROM with custom kernel. Made backup with TWRP. Flashed stock boot,img and system.img in fastboot, flashed downloaded update from 4.4 -> 4.4.2 in recovery. Wiped cache and dalvik - started but recovery locked up. Had to hold power to reboot phone. Booted fine but no network, no IMEI, no baseband.
And no I don't have and EFS backup
I take it the phone is now buggered.
Is there anything I can do to fix this??
Appreciate anything that might help this.
Cheesy Wotsit said:
Ok, so I probably know the answer to this already :crying:
Brief story - stock rooted ROM with custom kernel. Made backup with TWRP. Flashed stock boot,img and system.img in fastboot, flashed downloaded update from 4.4 -> 4.4.2 in recovery. Wiped cache and dalvik - started but recovery locked up. Had to hold power to reboot phone. Booted fine but no network, no IMEI, no baseband.
And no I don't have and EFS backup
I take it the phone is now buggered.
Is there anything I can do to fix this??
Appreciate anything that might help this.
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The same thing happened to me. Flash the latest version of TWRP, wipe your cache again, and your phone will be back to normal.
not true for all you may end up having to RMA I had my efs backup it still didn't fix it sorry to be the bearer of bad news but they make it sound like bringing it back is 100% but in some cases that's not true
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ddloco said:
not true for all you may end up having to RMA I had my efs backup it still didn't fix it sorry to be the bearer of bad news but they make it sound like bringing it back is 100% but in some cases that's not true
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In his case, if he just does what I said to do he'll be fine. He didn't lose his EFS, he rebooted in the middle of a cache wipe and his partitions got messed up. Updating TWRP and wiping the cache again will set everything straight. This is a fairly common issue with older versions of TWRP.
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In his case, if he just does what I said to do he'll be fine. He didn't lose his EFS, he rebooted in the middle of a cache wipe and his partitions got messed up. Updating TWRP and wiping the cache again will set everything straight. This is a fairly common issue with older versions of TWRP.
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I'm just saying the same thing happens to me and nothing that's suggested fixed it that's why I say its not 100% me and another guy both had the same problem and the only way was to RMA I also had my efs but even after doing everything from going back to stock updateubg twrp and reflashing my esf backup my phone would not correct its self so I'm not saying that this method doesn't work for some people but for me and another used it was a no go
So why are you guys still using twrp if it is causing issues?
Just use cwm instead!
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Elisha said:
So why are you guys still using twrp if it is causing issues?
Just use cwm instead!
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because the majority dont have any problems.
and people, take precautionary measures and back up your efs partition, its the first thing i did as soon as i had a custom recovery. it takes 2 seconds. and store it somewhere OTHER then your phones internal storage, like on a comp or dropbox
TheAtheistOtaku said:
because the majority dont have any problems.
and people, take precautionary measures and back up your efs partition, its the first thing i did as soon as i had a custom recovery. it takes 2 seconds. and store it somewhere OTHER then your phones internal storage, like on a comp or dropbox
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This is not an EFS issues. Simple matter of twrp messing up partitions.
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Elisha said:
This is not an EFS issues. Simple matter of twrp messing up partitions.
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i know, still doesnt hurt to be caution though
ddloco said:
I'm just saying the same thing happens to me and nothing that's suggested fixed it that's why I say its not 100% me and another guy both had the same problem and the only way was to RMA I also had my efs but even after doing everything from going back to stock updateubg twrp and reflashing my esf backup my phone would not correct its self so I'm not saying that this method doesn't work for some people but for me and another used it was a no go
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Yeah but did it happen to you the way it happened to OP? So far every single person that I have come across who was in this boat due to a bad cache wipe in TWRP was able to fix it by updating TWRP and re-wiping the cache. It's a well known issue.
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Yeah but did it happen to you the way it happened to OP? So far every single person that I have come across who was in this boat due to a bad cache wipe in TWRP was able to fix it by updating TWRP and re-wiping the cache. It's a well known issue.
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Thanks for the help guys. Got it up and running again more by accident than anything. Seems like MetalHead was correct, the partition was fine but just not readable. Unfortunately in order to get up and running again I flashed all the stock images in flasboot and did a full factory reset in the stock recovery which fixed the problem. Sounds like I could have done without the full wipe after all but at least it's all fixed now.
As for backing up the EFS, lesson learned. I had the 1st official TWRP on the phone which had no option for EFS backup like the current one. Guess what I'll be doing right now??
Anyway, happy man again and thanks to all that replied :good:
I must apologize for saying its not 100% but the truth is I had the exact same thing happen and no stock or fast boot cache fixed it I'm living proof that it works for the masses but under rare circumstances this just doesn't solve it oh man how I wish this would've fixed mine I been using a inspire 4g its killing me I feel like I jumped out of a beemer and landed in a pinto lol
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Glad that the OP got the issue resolved !
on a side note , can anyone tell me what is the safest version of TWRP there ? i.e without this cache wipse issue ( taking too long to wipe ? )
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I must apologize for saying its not 100% but the truth is I had the exact same thing happen and no stock or fast boot cache fixed it I'm living proof that it works for the masses but under rare circumstances this just doesn't solve it oh man how I wish this would've fixed mine I been using a inspire 4g its killing me I feel like I jumped out of a beemer and landed in a pinto lol
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Thats a bummer man. What kind of phone are you using now?
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Glad that the OP got the issue resolved !
on a side note , can anyone tell me what is the safest version of TWRP there ? i.e without this cache wipse issue ( taking too long to wipe ? )
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I believe 2.6.3.4 is the latest version. That's the one I'm on, works just fine.
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_MetalHead_ said:
Thats a bummer man. What kind of phone are you using now?
I believe 2.6.3.4 is the latest version. That's the one I'm on, works just fine.
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Got it , thanks mate Just upgraded my version of TWRP .
the nexus 4 is my phone I gave to my wife now that its hers I'm lucky to pick it up just to hop on xda but when its her Facebook time she hurrie up and kick me off lol the phone I'm using is an HTC inspire 4g it sucks
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[Q] EFS and Support

So today I think I messed up pretty bad.
I was installing the Carbon Rom via fastboot and after, I went to delete the cache and userdata.
Now, I didn't notice anything strange, I was at home and on wifi. Until' I tired texting a friend. I noticed that nothing was showing up. No IMEI, no number, no baseband!
I was planning on running a data recovery tool on the / area whenever I next can, but if I can't get the EFS back, what would be the next course of action?
Flash stock and send it back to Google to get fixed?
Also, what is the exact location of the EFS directory on the nexus 5's?
Someone offer me some guidance, I feel so lost!
Thanks, Alex.
AplusJ said:
So today I think I messed up pretty bad.
I was installing the Carbon Rom via fastboot and after, I went to delete the cache and userdata.
Now, I didn't notice anything strange, I was at home and on wifi. Until' I tired texting a friend. I noticed that nothing was showing up. No IMEI, no number, no baseband!
I was planning on running a data recovery tool on the / area whenever I next can, but if I can't get the EFS back, what would be the next course of action?
Flash stock and send it back to Google to get fixed?
Also, what is the exact location of the EFS directory on the nexus 5's?
Someone offer me some guidance, I feel so lost!
Thanks, Alex.
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First, how did you flash carbon in fastboot?
Second, there is no efs folder it's a partition
Try flashing the cache.img in fastboot
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jd1639 said:
First, how did you flash carbon in fastboot?
Second, there is no efs folder it's a partition
Try flashing the cache.img in fastboot
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I have restored it to stock, and it's all fine. But stock sucks.
And I mean in recovery.img, clockwork touch.
The problem lies within the radio.img, as that is the thing stopping the baseband coming.
Will try reflashing Carbon and then putting the stock radio.img onto it. :silly:
AplusJ said:
I have restored it to stock, and it's all fine. But stock sucks.
And I mean in recovery.img, clockwork touch.
The problem lies within the radio.img, as that is the thing stopping the baseband coming.
Will try reflashing Carbon and then putting the stock radio.img onto it. :silly:
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You could have just flashed the cache.img on fastboot and would have solved your problem without losing your custom Rom or data. Something to remember if it happens again.
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