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Online nandroid backup or obackup nandroid?

I am looking for an application that can make my nandroid backup without having to go into recovery. But I am not sure if the backups that are created with the apps in this thread title are compatible with clockwork mod.
So, my question is:
Can clockwork mod recovery read the nandroid backup made by those online apps (Online nandroid backup pro or obackup nandroid)?
Thanks

Most likely not. Make one and try it before you rely on it

cesar.maranhao said:
I am looking for an application that can make my nandroid backup without having to go into recovery. But I am not sure if the backups that are created with the apps in this thread title are compatible with clockwork mod.
So, my question is:
Can clockwork mod recovery read the nandroid backup made by those online apps (Online nandroid backup pro or obackup nandroid)?
Thanks
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i guess nandroid backup made by a tool must be restored by the same tool.
note that when backuping with cwm a md5 file is created, and when restoring, md5 of the backup must match

Why do you want to take a backup without going into recovery if you don't mind me asking?
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jd1639 said:
Most likely not. Make one and try it before you rely on it
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good suggestion. but i have not done it and probably will not try it considering that i should use the same tool for making and reading backups like samersh72 suggested.
samersh72 said:
i guess nandroid backup made by a tool must be restored by the same tool.
note that when backuping with cwm a md5 file is created, and when restoring, md5 of the backup must match
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i am glad i asked first before relying on something i might not have use when the need arrives. thanks for pointing that out for me.
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Why do you want to take a backup without going into recovery if you don't mind me asking?
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no worries. i am glad you asked since i can be doing something i am not supposed to do (I am new to all this stuff).
the answer to your question is that i stumbled upon the possibility of doing the nandroid backups without having to go into recovery mode. plus the convenience of uploading such backups to the cloud and doing them automatically/periodically. both Online nandroid backup or obackup nandroid would help me with those features but then i thought "what if the clockwork mod recovery does not read those files?" that is why i made this topic.
is making an online nandroid backup bad? if it is better to make it inside the recovery fine by me. it does not take that much time either. i guess i just have to get used to make them and not forget.
anyway, looks that those online backups are not usable when in clockwork mod so i will not use those apps.
in the mean time, i have been looking in the rom manager premium app. it is made by clockworkmod.. can that application be used for online nandroid backups? maybe these are the same as those made inside the recovery? if so, i could use this application for the nandroid backups.
regards and happy new year!

You can try to make backups both ways and then ţry to restore the 3 rd party backup with CWM. If failed, you will have the proper CWM backup to restore as well. By the way, original backups are accessible to your device as files and you can simply sync that folder to the prefered cloud service - dropbox, box, drive, etc.
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andrey.mironov said:
You can try to make backups both ways and then ţry to restore the 3 rd party backup with CWM. If failed, you will have the proper CWM backup to restore as well. By the way, original backups are accessible to your device as files and you can simply sync that folder to the prefered cloud service - dropbox, box, drive, etc.
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That's what I do; every night, automatic backups are made by Rom Toolbox and automatically uploaded to Dropbox by Foldersync.

PhilipTD said:
That's what I do; every night, automatic backups are made by Rom Toolbox and automatically uploaded to Dropbox by Foldersync.
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Have you been able to restore a nandroid with to toolbox?

jd1639 said:
Have you been able to restore a nandroid with to toolbox?
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Haven't had to. Why? Is there a problem?
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The reason I asked was I use tasker with recovery to automatically take a nandroid every Saturday when im asleep then upload it to my NAS using foldersync.
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Haven't had to. Why? Is there a problem?
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Don't know, I've never tried it. I just make one in my recovery. Never had any problems with that

jd1639 said:
Don't know, I've never tried it. I just make one in my recovery. Never had any problems with that
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Well, I have been using RT for years, and have restored plenty of nandroids in the past on other phones/ROMS with it. It always worked great.
Sent from my Nexus 7

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The reason I asked was I use tasker with recovery to automatically take a nandroid every Saturday when im asleep then upload it to my NAS using foldersync.
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Do you mind explaining how you do it? I already have Tasker and also have Rom Manager Premium. Need to get Foldersync

cesar.maranhao said:
Do you mind explaining how you do it? I already have Tasker and also have Rom Manager Premium. Need to get Foldersync
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The method I use will only work with a CWM based recovery. I find Philz best. This is because I am using extended commands, which are proprietary to CWM.
I wont go into detail on the foldersync part. All I will say is you set up a folder pair between your sdcard/clockworkmod/backup folder and your backup location, which could be a NAS, Computer thats always on or a Cloud location. I set mine to delete the backup from local storage before it takes a new backup and also afterwards. I also set within foldersync that they only run on wifi.
I have the 3 following profiles:
1.Nandroid Copy Pre
2.Nandroid Backup
3.Nandroid Copy Post
Pre and Post are identical in that they run the foldersync task. The only difference is the time they run.
I run the 3 profiles at these times on a Saturday:
1. 02:00 - 04:00
2. 04:00
3: 05:00 - 06:00
So basically, that is foldersync to NAS (deleting backup), taking backup, foldersync to NAS (deleting backup). I do this as I am tight on space. On my S3, I used to keep 2 backups locally, deleting the oldest before taking the next one.
So you're probably wondering what happens in the task for profile 2. Both actions are created using the Script > Run shell
Code:
1. sh /mnt/sdcard/clockworkmod/nandroid.sh
2. reboot recovery
1. calls a script called nandroid.sh as you can see. The contents are below:
Code:
# Set date and time
now=$(date +"%d_%m_%y-%H%M")
# Writes command for cwm based recovery to read
echo 'backup_rom("/data/media/0/clockworkmod/backup/'$now'");' > /cache/recovery/extendedcommand
That's it in a nutshell.
If you wanted to, you could run the task 1 before which does a delete of the backup and the sync after (its 2 for redundancy) to just sync without delete, always keeping 1 backup on your device.

rootSU said:
The method I use will only work with a CWM based recovery. I find Philz best. This is because I am using extended commands, which are proprietary to CWM.
I wont go into detail on the foldersync part. All I will say is you set up a folder pair between your sdcard/clockworkmod/backup folder and your backup location, which could be a NAS, Computer thats always on or a Cloud location. I set mine to delete the backup from local storage before it takes a new backup and also afterwards. I also set within foldersync that they only run on wifi.
I have the 3 following profiles:
1.Nandroid Copy Pre
2.Nandroid Backup
3.Nandroid Copy Post
Pre and Post are identical in that they run the foldersync task. The only difference is the time they run.
I run the 3 profiles at these times on a Saturday:
1. 02:00 - 04:00
2. 04:00
3: 05:00 - 06:00
So basically, that is foldersync to NAS (deleting backup), taking backup, foldersync to NAS (deleting backup). I do this as I am tight on space. On my S3, I used to keep 2 backups locally, deleting the oldest before taking the next one.
So you're probably wondering what happens in the task for profile 2. Both actions are created using the Script > Run shell
Code:
1. sh /mnt/sdcard/clockworkmod/nandroid.sh
2. reboot recovery
1. calls a script called nandroid.sh as you can see. The contents are below:
Code:
# Set date and time
now=$(date +"%d_%m_%y-%H%M")
# Writes command for cwm based recovery to read
echo 'backup_rom("/data/media/0/clockworkmod/backup/@$now");' > /cache/recovery/extendedcommand
That's it in a nutshell.
If you wanted to, you could run the task 1 before which does a delete of the backup and the sync after (its 2 for redundancy) to just sync without delete, always keeping 1 backup on your device.
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following this reply, i have been searching more on how to do this on my nexus 5. found some older topics on it, even found some where you also posted.
it will not be easy on my side to do this. at all.

cesar.maranhao said:
it will not be easy on my side to do this. at all.
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Where's the problem? Perhaps I can help. Its really easy
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Where's the problem? Perhaps I can help. Its really easy
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easy? we surely have different levels of knowledge for sure. but i gladly take your help if you are willing to use the time for it.
lets see if i can sum my difficulties first.
- in your post you mention Philz recovery. so i googled it. i am not sure but is this the "upgrade" for rom manager premium where you can use touch? if so, i do not mind buying that upgrade (because i do not have the touch upgrade, only bought the premium rom manager app).
- i still do not have foldersync but that is probably very easy to configure so only thing left for me is to buy the app. no problems here.
- tasker profiles. never used tasker but already bought it because of its functionality. i tried to make a custom profile on my own and it did not work. been reading help so i can figure out the app and how to program it. it might take a while though
i believe thats it. like you see, i still have a long road ahead of me. if you have patience and want to provide help i will surely be thankful. besides, i am sure a lot of other people out there will find this topic helpful so you will not only be helping me
regards

cesar.maranhao said:
easy? we surely have different levels of knowledge for sure. but i gladly take your help if you are willing to use the time for it.
lets see if i can sum my difficulties first.
- in your post you mention Philz recovery. so i googled it. i am not sure but is this the "upgrade" for rom manager premium where you can use touch? if so, i do not mind buying that upgrade (because i do not have the touch upgrade, only bought the premium rom manager app).
- i still do not have foldersync but that is probably very easy to configure so only thing left for me is to buy the app. no problems here.
- tasker profiles. never used tasker but already bought it because of its functionality. i tried to make a custom profile on my own and it did not work. been reading help so i can figure out the app and how to program it. it might take a while though
i believe thats it. like you see, i still have a long road ahead of me. if you have patience and want to provide help i will surely be thankful. besides, i am sure a lot of other people out there will find this topic helpful so you will not only be helping me
regards
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Its not as long as you think
Philz touch is a cwm based recovery. Its like cwm but much more. Its free and can be found in our nexus 5 "android development" forum here. Should be easy to spot. Thread is posted by me It will still work with rom manager although i prefer to not have rom manager.
Foldersync has a free version too by the way
But let's break it into byte size chunks. Firstly decide if you're willing to flash philz recovery via fastboot or not. You don't have to. Cwm is fine for now.
Next step will be to create profile 2 and task. Let me know when you're ready for that. I can't promise you quick responses but i'll walk you through it.
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rootSU said:
Its not as long as you think
Philz touch is a cwm based recovery. Its like cwm but much more. Its free and can be found in our nexus 5 "android development" forum here. Should be easy to spot. Thread is posted by me It will still work with rom manager although i prefer to not have rom manager.
Foldersync has a free version too by the way
But let's break it into byte size chunks. Firstly decide if you're willing to flash philz recovery via fastboot or not. You don't have to. Cwm is fine for now.
Next step will be to create profile 2 and task. Let me know when you're ready for that. I can't promise you quick responses but i'll walk you through it.
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Hello. I have subscribed your thread about philz recovery. I am thinking of installing the zip file from clockwork mod recovery. Do you think it will be OK doing that way?
Why do you think it is better to not have rom manager?
Do not worry about "quick answers" , that way you give me time to read and learn. Going to read your thread on recovery, might learn something there
Regards.

Yep, that way is fine to flash
Personally I feel that apps and tool kits that do things like flashing are detrimental to the user experience. Doing things manually is the best way to learn, ergo the best bet in case you ever need to get yourself out of trouble. The manual steps are good to know so it's always best to be familiar with adb, fastboot and recovery yourself, instead of having apps and kits that manage these crucial steps for you.

[Q] Can't install several roms

Hi, there are Roms like Omni or CM or AOKP or SlimKat I can install but also Roms like Cataclysm or RastaKat I can't install doesn't matter which recovery I'm using (I tried CWM, the latest TWRP and the one before the latest) but it did never work. CWM shows me "bad file" and TWRP shows me "E:Error executing updater binary in zip '/sdcar..." But I don't think it's a bad file because I tried with several downloads ? Whats the problem ?

I think it IS actually a bad file. Those errors are consistent with a bad file.
If you downloaded via your phone, try downloading via computer and transfer to phone. If you are downloading via computer, download via phone.

rootSU said:
I think it IS actually a bad file. Those errors are consistent with a bad file.
If you downloaded via your phone, try downloading via computer and transfer to phone. If you are downloading via computer, download via phone.
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I did it either ways

sGollSv said:
I did it either ways
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Through same data connection?
Download a ROM that gives an MD5 sum and check the md5 sum on your phone.
To do this, open terminal emulator and type:
Code:
md5sum /path_to_ROM/rom.zip
Where path_to_Rom is the location of your ROM.zip (eg /sdcard/Download) and ROM.zip is the name of the zip file you downloaded.

rootSU said:
Through same data connection?
Download a ROM that gives an MD5 sum and check the md5 sum on your phone.
To do this, open terminal emulator and type:
Code:
md5sum /path_to_ROM/rom.zip
Where path_to_Rom is the location of your ROM.zip (eg /sdcard/Download) and ROM.zip is the name of the zip file you downloaded.
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Yes through same data connection? Do I have to download the MD5sum to do this?

Should just be able to run terminal command without downloading anything as long as you have a terminal app.
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Should just be able to run terminal command without downloading anything as long as you have a terminal app.
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Ah got it.. i've got to do it with the phone?

sGollSv said:
Ah got it.. i've got to do it with the phone?
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Well yes, if you're downloading it via computer and downloading it directly to the phone with the same result, the issue wont be at the computer side. Its either your phone, or the data connection causing the problem. What we need to do is find out if the MD5 is different once on your phone.

How do I push a cwm backup to my device

So did a factory reset on my nexus then reinstalled 4.4.2 then cwm then root. Now I want to copy my old cwm backup that is on my computer to my phone.... how would I do this?

rans0m00 said:
So did a factory reset on my nexus then reinstalled 4.4.2 then cwm then root. Now I want to copy my old cwm backup that is on my computer to my phone.... how would I do this?
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Connect your phone to your pc using the usb cable and drag and drop it

jd1639 said:
Connect your phone to your pc using the usb cable and drag and drop it
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Negative. The folder where CWM keeps the backups is not accessible like that.

rans0m00 said:
Negative. The folder where CWM keeps the backups is not accessible like that.
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It should be.
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It should be.
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Try this from a cmd window
adb push your file /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup

jd1639 said:
It should be.
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Try this from a cmd window
adb push your file /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup
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pretty sure it should be something closer to /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup
about to try this in a sec... just surprised there is not an easier way to get it on there since it was so easy to get it off

And pushing them to that location works.

rans0m00 said:
And pushing them to that location works.
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Which location?

jd1639 said:
Which location?
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/mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup

rans0m00 said:
/mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup
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Thanks

You could just use airdroid and transfer it wirelessly. I had a problem on my old phone where cwm backups will generate corrupted md5 sums if I used a USB cable. Airdroid fixed that issue for me.
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Can't access that location with airdroid as far as I know. It's a root location that is hidden.
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rans0m00 said:
Negative. The folder where CWM keeps the backups is not accessible like that.
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What difference does that make? He has the backup on his computer, he just wants to know how to push it back to his device. Does CWM not let you browse for the backup files when you restore? If so, then that's all the more reason to switch to TWRP.

So use airdroid to move it to SD card. Then use root explorer or some other file explorer with root permissions to move it where you need to be. BTW ..my twrp backups are stored on my SD card.
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After this experience with cwm I am trying out twrp. Too much hassle.
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Cwm still doesnt use /data/media/0 for sdcard. It uses /data/media which is a 4.1 location.
I explain it all in my thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534010
[ info] Storage: Nexus 5 Data (info / loss / recovery / prevention)
You can adb push to data media but its a ball ache. This is one if the reasons I like philz recovery. Its cwm based but implementing all the missing features and fixes that cwm should have.
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Had some issue time ago, find two way, both with CWM
Renamed the .zip in .jpg (i know it's not safe but it works)
Then plug phone and moved file from PC to sdcard/DCIM then with root explorer or other file manager rename in .zip, moved to /sdcard, reboot to recovery and choose install zip from /sdcard from CWM recovery
Other was similar but used airdroid to send file to /sdcard
Never got an issue with both of this method
sparato dritto dritto sul web dal mio N5
shoot right on the web from my N5

rootSU said:
Cwm still doesnt use /data/media/0 for sdcard. It uses /data/media which is a 4.1 location.
I explain it all in my thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534010
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rootSU, I'm not sure how I missed seeing that thread before, but thanks. I've marked it for future reference because I know at some point, it's going to come in handy. btw, another vote for Philz here.

adrman said:
rootSU, I'm not sure how I missed seeing that thread before, but thanks. I've marked it for future reference because I know at some point, it's going to come in handy. btw, another vote for Philz here.
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Yeah, its because it's not a sticky. I asked for it to be sticky but at the same time, I asked to have a "sticky roll-up thread" to replace all the stickies and have "sticky worthy" threads linked within it... and with that, the original request got lost

So wondering we have two votes for philz... I have never used it.... Always been twrp or cwm... What makes you guys want to use philz?
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So wondering we have two votes for philz... I have never used it.... Always been twrp or cwm... What makes you guys want to use philz?
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Its based on cwm so doesn't have the bugs and quirks (compatability issues etc) that twrp has but has all the functions twrp has and more...
Its a no brainer for me
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Honor 8|Backup| Help with previous backup

Greetings,
I got a problem with my Honor8 and I made both a full backup on my pc and a backup on a SDcard of contactlist, sms, calendar.
The phone was damaged, I sent it back to Amazon and I bought a Samsung.
Now, since my contact list wasn't completely sync with gmail, I couldn't restore all the phone numbers I had previously.
Long story short, I lost the SDcard and I don't know how to browse the Backup I have on my pc without the phone.
I've tried to open the .db file with Notepad++, but it's not plain text (as I expected, because I used a password for the backup).
Is there a way to recover all these data?
Thank you for any kind of help!

gabri.guido said:
Greetings,
I got a problem with my Honor8 and I made both a full backup on my pc and a backup on a SDcard of contactlist, sms, calendar...
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I don't have this device but, the following area of the forum is specific to your device.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8
With that stated...
I believe that the following thread is your best bet to post your question.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3524455
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Ibuprophen said:
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Thank you! I really hope your hint can heal my headache

Stock Rom

I have a Viewsonic NMP-302w with a custom rom on it, I would like to replace it with something more functional that can load apps like YouTube etc. I can connect to the device via ADB but I am unable to see anything on the display when I reboot in recovery mode or boot selector option. Any help would be appreciated.

sutibun said:
I have a Viewsonic NMP-302w with a custom rom on it, I would like to replace it with something more functional that can load apps like YouTube etc. I can connect to the device via ADB but I am unable to see anything on the display when I reboot in recovery mode or boot selector option. Any help would be appreciated.
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I don't have this device but, you may be able to obtain some member guidance within the following Q&A thread that's specific to your device.
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