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I am looking for an application that can make my nandroid backup without having to go into recovery. But I am not sure if the backups that are created with the apps in this thread title are compatible with clockwork mod.
So, my question is:
Can clockwork mod recovery read the nandroid backup made by those online apps (Online nandroid backup pro or obackup nandroid)?
Thanks
Most likely not. Make one and try it before you rely on it
cesar.maranhao said:
I am looking for an application that can make my nandroid backup without having to go into recovery. But I am not sure if the backups that are created with the apps in this thread title are compatible with clockwork mod.
So, my question is:
Can clockwork mod recovery read the nandroid backup made by those online apps (Online nandroid backup pro or obackup nandroid)?
Thanks
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i guess nandroid backup made by a tool must be restored by the same tool.
note that when backuping with cwm a md5 file is created, and when restoring, md5 of the backup must match
Why do you want to take a backup without going into recovery if you don't mind me asking?
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Most likely not. Make one and try it before you rely on it
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good suggestion. but i have not done it and probably will not try it considering that i should use the same tool for making and reading backups like samersh72 suggested.
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i guess nandroid backup made by a tool must be restored by the same tool.
note that when backuping with cwm a md5 file is created, and when restoring, md5 of the backup must match
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i am glad i asked first before relying on something i might not have use when the need arrives. thanks for pointing that out for me.
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Why do you want to take a backup without going into recovery if you don't mind me asking?
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no worries. i am glad you asked since i can be doing something i am not supposed to do (I am new to all this stuff).
the answer to your question is that i stumbled upon the possibility of doing the nandroid backups without having to go into recovery mode. plus the convenience of uploading such backups to the cloud and doing them automatically/periodically. both Online nandroid backup or obackup nandroid would help me with those features but then i thought "what if the clockwork mod recovery does not read those files?" that is why i made this topic.
is making an online nandroid backup bad? if it is better to make it inside the recovery fine by me. it does not take that much time either. i guess i just have to get used to make them and not forget.
anyway, looks that those online backups are not usable when in clockwork mod so i will not use those apps.
in the mean time, i have been looking in the rom manager premium app. it is made by clockworkmod.. can that application be used for online nandroid backups? maybe these are the same as those made inside the recovery? if so, i could use this application for the nandroid backups.
regards and happy new year!
You can try to make backups both ways and then ţry to restore the 3 rd party backup with CWM. If failed, you will have the proper CWM backup to restore as well. By the way, original backups are accessible to your device as files and you can simply sync that folder to the prefered cloud service - dropbox, box, drive, etc.
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You can try to make backups both ways and then ţry to restore the 3 rd party backup with CWM. If failed, you will have the proper CWM backup to restore as well. By the way, original backups are accessible to your device as files and you can simply sync that folder to the prefered cloud service - dropbox, box, drive, etc.
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That's what I do; every night, automatic backups are made by Rom Toolbox and automatically uploaded to Dropbox by Foldersync.
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That's what I do; every night, automatic backups are made by Rom Toolbox and automatically uploaded to Dropbox by Foldersync.
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Have you been able to restore a nandroid with to toolbox?
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Have you been able to restore a nandroid with to toolbox?
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Haven't had to. Why? Is there a problem?
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The reason I asked was I use tasker with recovery to automatically take a nandroid every Saturday when im asleep then upload it to my NAS using foldersync.
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Haven't had to. Why? Is there a problem?
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Don't know, I've never tried it. I just make one in my recovery. Never had any problems with that
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Don't know, I've never tried it. I just make one in my recovery. Never had any problems with that
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Well, I have been using RT for years, and have restored plenty of nandroids in the past on other phones/ROMS with it. It always worked great.
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The reason I asked was I use tasker with recovery to automatically take a nandroid every Saturday when im asleep then upload it to my NAS using foldersync.
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Do you mind explaining how you do it? I already have Tasker and also have Rom Manager Premium. Need to get Foldersync
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Do you mind explaining how you do it? I already have Tasker and also have Rom Manager Premium. Need to get Foldersync
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The method I use will only work with a CWM based recovery. I find Philz best. This is because I am using extended commands, which are proprietary to CWM.
I wont go into detail on the foldersync part. All I will say is you set up a folder pair between your sdcard/clockworkmod/backup folder and your backup location, which could be a NAS, Computer thats always on or a Cloud location. I set mine to delete the backup from local storage before it takes a new backup and also afterwards. I also set within foldersync that they only run on wifi.
I have the 3 following profiles:
1.Nandroid Copy Pre
2.Nandroid Backup
3.Nandroid Copy Post
Pre and Post are identical in that they run the foldersync task. The only difference is the time they run.
I run the 3 profiles at these times on a Saturday:
1. 02:00 - 04:00
2. 04:00
3: 05:00 - 06:00
So basically, that is foldersync to NAS (deleting backup), taking backup, foldersync to NAS (deleting backup). I do this as I am tight on space. On my S3, I used to keep 2 backups locally, deleting the oldest before taking the next one.
So you're probably wondering what happens in the task for profile 2. Both actions are created using the Script > Run shell
Code:
1. sh /mnt/sdcard/clockworkmod/nandroid.sh
2. reboot recovery
1. calls a script called nandroid.sh as you can see. The contents are below:
Code:
# Set date and time
now=$(date +"%d_%m_%y-%H%M")
# Writes command for cwm based recovery to read
echo 'backup_rom("/data/media/0/clockworkmod/backup/'$now'");' > /cache/recovery/extendedcommand
That's it in a nutshell.
If you wanted to, you could run the task 1 before which does a delete of the backup and the sync after (its 2 for redundancy) to just sync without delete, always keeping 1 backup on your device.
rootSU said:
The method I use will only work with a CWM based recovery. I find Philz best. This is because I am using extended commands, which are proprietary to CWM.
I wont go into detail on the foldersync part. All I will say is you set up a folder pair between your sdcard/clockworkmod/backup folder and your backup location, which could be a NAS, Computer thats always on or a Cloud location. I set mine to delete the backup from local storage before it takes a new backup and also afterwards. I also set within foldersync that they only run on wifi.
I have the 3 following profiles:
1.Nandroid Copy Pre
2.Nandroid Backup
3.Nandroid Copy Post
Pre and Post are identical in that they run the foldersync task. The only difference is the time they run.
I run the 3 profiles at these times on a Saturday:
1. 02:00 - 04:00
2. 04:00
3: 05:00 - 06:00
So basically, that is foldersync to NAS (deleting backup), taking backup, foldersync to NAS (deleting backup). I do this as I am tight on space. On my S3, I used to keep 2 backups locally, deleting the oldest before taking the next one.
So you're probably wondering what happens in the task for profile 2. Both actions are created using the Script > Run shell
Code:
1. sh /mnt/sdcard/clockworkmod/nandroid.sh
2. reboot recovery
1. calls a script called nandroid.sh as you can see. The contents are below:
Code:
# Set date and time
now=$(date +"%d_%m_%y-%H%M")
# Writes command for cwm based recovery to read
echo 'backup_rom("/data/media/0/clockworkmod/backup/@$now");' > /cache/recovery/extendedcommand
That's it in a nutshell.
If you wanted to, you could run the task 1 before which does a delete of the backup and the sync after (its 2 for redundancy) to just sync without delete, always keeping 1 backup on your device.
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following this reply, i have been searching more on how to do this on my nexus 5. found some older topics on it, even found some where you also posted.
it will not be easy on my side to do this. at all.
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it will not be easy on my side to do this. at all.
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Where's the problem? Perhaps I can help. Its really easy
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easy? we surely have different levels of knowledge for sure. but i gladly take your help if you are willing to use the time for it.
lets see if i can sum my difficulties first.
- in your post you mention Philz recovery. so i googled it. i am not sure but is this the "upgrade" for rom manager premium where you can use touch? if so, i do not mind buying that upgrade (because i do not have the touch upgrade, only bought the premium rom manager app).
- i still do not have foldersync but that is probably very easy to configure so only thing left for me is to buy the app. no problems here.
- tasker profiles. never used tasker but already bought it because of its functionality. i tried to make a custom profile on my own and it did not work. been reading help so i can figure out the app and how to program it. it might take a while though
i believe thats it. like you see, i still have a long road ahead of me. if you have patience and want to provide help i will surely be thankful. besides, i am sure a lot of other people out there will find this topic helpful so you will not only be helping me
regards
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easy? we surely have different levels of knowledge for sure. but i gladly take your help if you are willing to use the time for it.
lets see if i can sum my difficulties first.
- in your post you mention Philz recovery. so i googled it. i am not sure but is this the "upgrade" for rom manager premium where you can use touch? if so, i do not mind buying that upgrade (because i do not have the touch upgrade, only bought the premium rom manager app).
- i still do not have foldersync but that is probably very easy to configure so only thing left for me is to buy the app. no problems here.
- tasker profiles. never used tasker but already bought it because of its functionality. i tried to make a custom profile on my own and it did not work. been reading help so i can figure out the app and how to program it. it might take a while though
i believe thats it. like you see, i still have a long road ahead of me. if you have patience and want to provide help i will surely be thankful. besides, i am sure a lot of other people out there will find this topic helpful so you will not only be helping me
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Its not as long as you think
Philz touch is a cwm based recovery. Its like cwm but much more. Its free and can be found in our nexus 5 "android development" forum here. Should be easy to spot. Thread is posted by me It will still work with rom manager although i prefer to not have rom manager.
Foldersync has a free version too by the way
But let's break it into byte size chunks. Firstly decide if you're willing to flash philz recovery via fastboot or not. You don't have to. Cwm is fine for now.
Next step will be to create profile 2 and task. Let me know when you're ready for that. I can't promise you quick responses but i'll walk you through it.
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Its not as long as you think
Philz touch is a cwm based recovery. Its like cwm but much more. Its free and can be found in our nexus 5 "android development" forum here. Should be easy to spot. Thread is posted by me It will still work with rom manager although i prefer to not have rom manager.
Foldersync has a free version too by the way
But let's break it into byte size chunks. Firstly decide if you're willing to flash philz recovery via fastboot or not. You don't have to. Cwm is fine for now.
Next step will be to create profile 2 and task. Let me know when you're ready for that. I can't promise you quick responses but i'll walk you through it.
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Hello. I have subscribed your thread about philz recovery. I am thinking of installing the zip file from clockwork mod recovery. Do you think it will be OK doing that way?
Why do you think it is better to not have rom manager?
Do not worry about "quick answers" , that way you give me time to read and learn. Going to read your thread on recovery, might learn something there
Regards.
Yep, that way is fine to flash
Personally I feel that apps and tool kits that do things like flashing are detrimental to the user experience. Doing things manually is the best way to learn, ergo the best bet in case you ever need to get yourself out of trouble. The manual steps are good to know so it's always best to be familiar with adb, fastboot and recovery yourself, instead of having apps and kits that manage these crucial steps for you.
Ok, I admit up front I am an idiot and don't know what I am doing!
So I deleted that file, and even though I have it backed up, TB just hangs every time I want to restore it. If someone has a file I can download, and can give me clear directions as to how to reinstall it, I would be eternally grateful, as I realize after some reading of threads, etc, that that file actually controls ALL calendars. It's obviously a system file. I have Root Explorer, and I'm not sure how to even use that program. Please ask any questions I haven't answered here, and hopefully some kind soul can walk me through this. The package name is com.android.providers.calendar. My current phone/ROM is SGH-T769, Android 4.0.4
Thanks in advance,
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uesay said:
Ok, I admit up front I am an idiot and don't know what I am doing!
So I deleted that file, and even though I have it backed up, TB just hangs every time I want to restore it. If someone has a file I can download, and can give me clear directions as to how to reinstall it, I would be eternally grateful, as I realize after some reading of threads, etc, that that file actually controls ALL calendars. It's obviously a system file. I have Root Explorer, and I'm not sure how to even use that program. Please ask any questions I haven't answered here, and hopefully some kind soul can walk me through this. The package name is com.android.providers.calendar. My current phone/ROM is SGH-T769, Android 4.0.4
Thanks in advance,
Totally inept uesay
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Hello. I met you on IRC, my nick was "Potatoes".
Anyway, I saw your message after you quit. I'll try to walk you through fixing this.
First up, Try to follow this guide.
If that doesn't work, Use this guide. You can get the stock firmware here. You need an account, but it is free to create one.
Good luck!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! It's fixed!!!!! I had to go the Odin route, but it worked, and my calendar is back, YAYY!!
-uesay, much relieved
A friend lost her "camera roll" folder contents after installing an app through Instagram. Had her install ES file explorer but nothing can be found. I grabbed a program to try to recover the pictures(in debugging mode) but it had to have root access. So I recommended contacting MobileTechVideos as I know they had a very good reputation. Unfortunately she hasn't been able to contact them(dead phone number and undeliverable email address). My question is...who else can we send this phone(Droid turbo) to for data recovery. I may add that these were wedding and honeymoon pictures so you can understand the urgency.
stuckmoto said:
A friend lost her "camera roll" folder contents after installing an app through Instagram. Had her install ES file explorer but nothing can be found. I grabbed a program to try to recover the pictures(in debugging mode) but it had to have root access. So I recommended contacting MobileTechVideos as I know they had a very good reputation. Unfortunately she hasn't been able to contact them(dead phone number and undeliverable email address). My question is...who else can we send this phone(Droid turbo) to for data recovery. I may add that these were wedding and honeymoon pictures so you can understand the urgency.
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Hi, sorry for your situation.
I would recommend using a Google search.
Also, consider asking here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help
That's the help forum for your device. Maybe someone there can help.
Good luck!
For some reason the stock calendar app just wouldn't work and I accidentally deleted the calendar storage app as well when I removed it. No backup of the system apps, sadly. I've been looking for this app for a while, doesn't seem to be on the app store or the various apk archive sites. Anyone have a copy? Can I extract it from the stock ROM?
Thanks.
rtomasso said:
For some reason the stock calendar app just wouldn't work and I accidentally deleted the calendar storage app as well when I removed it. No backup of the system apps, sadly. I've been looking for this app for a while, doesn't seem to be on the app store or the various apk archive sites. Anyone have a copy? Can I extract it from the stock ROM? Thanks.
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The attached one should be what your looking for.
Just unzip the apk file.
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The attached one should be what your looking for.
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Thanks, but this is for a different phone and different release. Didn't install.
rtomasso said:
Thanks, but this is for a different phone and different release. Didn't install.
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It doesn't traditionally install but, needs to be placed in the appropriate location within the system directory.
I've got a feeling that you had completely uninstalled this app and you may have to install the app as a system app.
My I535 device is actually taken apart awaiting for me to finish the Micro Soldering for the USB replacement.
I can try to grab another from the stock firmware if you can wait a bit...
Or another option is to ask within the following thread if someone can provide an unmodified stock of this app.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2494145
I only mention that thread because it's one of the few threads that remains fairly active.
Good Luck!
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It doesn't traditionally install but, needs to be placed in the appropriate location within the system directory.
I've got a feeling that you had completely uninstalled this app and you may have to install the app as a system app.
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Yes it's gone. So you think if I just move it into the system apps directory it will just work?
I can try to grab another from the stock firmware if you can wait a bit...
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Yes.
rtomasso said:
Yes it's gone. So you think if I just move it into the system apps directory it will just work?.....
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Something just occurred to me...
Is your device only Rooted?
Is it Unlocked with TWRP?
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It's rooted. I don't think I put a custom recovery on it.
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It's rooted. I don't think I put a custom recovery on it.
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Give the following a try...
Open up your File Manager and see if you can locate the following 2 Directories:
/system/app/Calendar/
/system/priv-app/CalendarProvider/
I'm hoping you, at least, locate the 2nd one but, please let me know if you find either/or...
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Neither is there.
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Neither is there.
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I had a feeling of this...
You don't only need the Calendar app but, the Calendar Provider app as well.
With your Android version being an older one, the following may work out for you but, I'm not completely sure if the provider app will follow.
The following won't harm your device if it doesn't work but, it just may work for you.
Go back to the devices root "/" directory and then navigate to the...
/system/app/
Create a Folder labeled "Calendar" and navigate within it as follows...
/system/app/Calendar/
Now place the Calendar app, I had previously uploaded, and then rename it to "Calendar.apk" and paste it within the above Calendar directory that should now reflect the following...
/system/app/Calendar/Calendar.apk
Now Reboot your device and see if the calendar app is now available.
When placing any app like this within the system, after the device reboots, the system should see and auto install it as a system app.
I'm hoping that if it auto installs the app, it will also do the same for the provider app that just might be based upon the calendar app itself.
Please let me know how it did and I'm keeping my fingers crossed!
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I had a feeling of this...
You don't only need the Calendar app but, the Calendar Provider app as well.
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Right, that's what I really need, any calendar should work with it, but none will work without it.
Copying the apk to the app directory and rebooting did nothing. I think it's from a different variant and apparently my phone cares enough.
I'm thinking I may just re-apply the 4.4.2 update and see if the calendar storage app is in there. I tried looking at the system.img file but wasn't able to read it to pull the apk.
rtomasso said:
Right, that's what I really need, any calendar should work with it, but none will work without it. Copying the apk to the app directory and rebooting did nothing. I think it's from a different variant and apparently my phone cares enough. I'm thinking I may just re-apply the 4.4.2 update and see if the calendar storage app is in there. I tried looking at the system.img file but wasn't able to read it to pull the apk.
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That may be the case as well.
I've actually got 2 I535 devices and one of them can't be unlocked and actually has the Stock NE1 firmware installed.
I actually just located it and I'm in the process of charging the battery since I haven't used that one in a while because I've been using my other one that is unlocked with LineageOS 14.1 installed in it.
If you would like to wait a little bit for the battery to charge so I can reset the device back to default (there was a bit of customization done when my daughter had it a while ago).
The reset is so i can be sure that all is stock NE1 and what I copy from there is what your looking for.
Please let me know if you would like to wait or take another avenue.
I've got no problem with either answer...
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Waiting isn't a problem. I've been searching all day for this apk, seems every version is uploaded on the apk archive sites but this one.
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Waiting isn't a problem. I've been searching all day for this apk, seems every version is uploaded on the apk archive sites but this one.
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I understand and have been on this same boat before. Especially for older devices.
It looks like you will need both the Calendar and the Calendar Services restored. The Services is the communication between the information from and to the Stock calendar.
It acts much like what the Google Play Services is required for making the Google Play Store work.
I'll keep you informed of the progress... :thumbup:
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@rtomasso... First go back to the devices root "/" directory and then navigate to the...
/system/app/
DELETE the following Folder labeled "Calendar" with the apk in it...
/system/app/Calendar/
Then Reboot the device.
I had created a flashable zip from the Stock I535 NE1 Firmware and uploaded it to the following link on my File Host Account.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=5862345805528051036
I've got a feeling that you may not be able to or have never flashed a file...
Also, it does require BusyBox installed on your device because it calls out for one of the BusyBox Binaries.
If none of the above applies, please let me know and I'll provide a manual way (and files) to install it.
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Okay, I'll have time later today to do this.
I notice there is just the SecCalendar apk and odex in the zip file. Will flashing do all the rest to create the storage service?
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Okay, I'll have time later today to do this. I notice there is just the SecCalendar apk and odex in the zip file. Will flashing do all the rest to create the storage service?
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My apologies for not mentioning this but, i may have been wrong about the Services part because i had thought that this was for Stock Android 4.2+ when it was 5.0+.
It looks like the Google Calendar was the one that used this in Android 4.2+...
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My apologies for not mentioning this but, i may have been wrong about the Services part because i had thought that this was for Stock Android 4.2+ when it was 5.0+.
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I'm fairly certain the separate storage service is what's needed. I put other calendars on the phone and none of them worked b/c the storage app isn't there. The apps are looking for it.
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I'm fairly certain the separate storage service is what's needed. I put other calendars on the phone and none of them worked b/c the storage app isn't there. The apps are looking for it.
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When I had powered up my SCH-I535 (with the Stock NE1) there were no Calendar Services within it.
If you didn't or couldn't flash the file, then you should have mentioned this because they don't go into a dedicated folder as I had previously thought.
Remove all of the calendar files and directories that you had manually added then reboot your device.
Grab the zip file (that is specific to a Manual Install) from the following AFH link and unzip it...
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=5862345805528051043
... There's a folder and a text file. The text file is only instructions for you to read that's very brief regarding where to specifically place the 2 calendar files that's within the that folder.
*** DON'T COPY THE FOLDER ITSELF, ONLY THE 2 TEXT FILES ***
Now Reboot your device and please let me know how it went... :thumbup:
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Those files gone after reboot. Still missing the com.android.providers.calendar app. Is that apk not on your phone?
Hi,
My phone's build number is: 00CN_2_120
I downloaded the following file: SS2-135F-0-00WW-B01-update.zip
Then I renamed it to SS2-136F-0-00CN-B01-update.zip
I copied and pasted it into the internal shared storage of my phone
and on dialer pressed: *#*#874#*#* but i keep getting FILE NOT FOUND!?
What am i doing wrong? please help, i feel like my money has gone to waste with this phone
thanks
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Hi,
My phone's build number is: 00CN_2_120. I downloaded the following file:.....
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I don't have this device and there's very little that I can locate specific to your device and question but, the following thread is probably the closest one for obtaining some member guidance within it that's specific to your device.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3761071
Good Luck!
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Hi,
My phone's build number is: 00CN_2_120
I downloaded the following file: SS2-135F-0-00WW-B01-update.zip
Then I renamed it to SS2-136F-0-00CN-B01-update.zip
I copied and pasted it into the internal shared storage of my phone
and on dialer pressed: *#*#874#*#* but i keep getting FILE NOT FOUND!?
What am i doing wrong? please help, i feel like my money has gone to waste with this phone
thanks
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I just bought the Aquos S2 64GB version and just know that the server had gone.
Do you still have the SS2-135F-0-00WW-B01-update.zip file and can send to me via Cloud drives such as google drive?
Thanks a lot.