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So, on a whim I googled CM10 16:9 camera and found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901917
I was expecting either camera doesn't work at all, or it would work with 16:9. I took the gallery2.apk and put it on my One S. Camera and gallery still worked but no 16:9 resolution
Maybe someone more capable than me can get 16:9 camera resolution on our One S
The CM10 camera already records in 16:9, but since the grey bar on the right takes up some of the screen real estate, there are black bars on the top and bottom. In fact, you will want to record in 4:3 so that those black bars are gone. Or you can try and make the grey bar on the right transparent somehow.
usaff22 said:
The CM10 camera already records in 16:9, but since the grey bar on the right takes up some of the screen real estate, there are black bars on the top and bottom. In fact, you will want to record in 4:3 so that those black bars are gone. Or you can try and make the grey bar on the right transparent somehow.
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I was referring to taking pictures, not recording video. I don't mind the black bar because ultimately you end up with fullscreen 16:9 during playback. I guess something that would be relevant is whether the camera sensor is more suitable for 16:9 or 4:3 at 8MP? I don't know the answer to that.
OCedHrt said:
I was referring to taking pictures, not recording video. I don't mind the black bar because ultimately you end up with fullscreen 16:9 during playback. I guess something that would be relevant is whether the camera sensor is more suitable for 16:9 or 4:3 at 8MP? I don't know the answer to that.
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The Camera sensor is 4x3 so it just crops the top and bottom for 16x9 giving about 6MP, we could easily add this resolution to the camera if people want.
dzo said:
The Camera sensor is 4x3 so it just crops the top and bottom for 16x9 giving about 6MP, we could easily add this resolution to the camera if people want.
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Thanks for the answer! I never noticed that the Sense camera only took 6 MP pictures. Talk about HTC screw ups after screw ups.
I guess at this point it doesn't really matter to me, though I can still see a desire for 16:9 photos just because they fill the display. I wouldn't mind having a 6 MP 16:9 mode.
There is a HD1080 option in camera settings if your looking for pictures to take up full screen in gallery.
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dzo said:
The Camera sensor is 4x3 so it just crops the top and bottom for 16x9 giving about 6MP, we could easily add this resolution to the camera if people want.
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That's exactly what I meant, just spoke about recording instead of images oops
Hi there,
Got the Samsung S7 and from today when trying to use the camcorder recording mode it will zoom in and not having the current view when it's on normal camera mode. Can someone help how to solve this, factory reset didn't work.
VGA and 1:1 quality works without zoom in but the HD, FHD 1920*1080 and above not.
Thanks.
My camera does the same exact thing, not sure if it's just a built in feature of the phone. Anyone else experience this?
gidomeijer said:
Hi there,
Got the Samsung S7 and from today when trying to use the camcorder recording mode it will zoom in and not having the current view when it's on normal camera mode. Can someone help how to solve this, factory reset didn't work.
VGA and 1:1 quality works without zoom in but the HD, FHD 1920*1080 and above not.
Thanks.
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I think it's because of the aspect ratio of the sensor (4:3).
The camera has to zoom in and crop the sensor when you choose video mode with those resolutions...
-ph- said:
I think it's because of the aspect ratio of the sensor (4:3).
The camera has to zoom in and crop the sensor when you choose video mode with those resolutions...
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How to solve because its strange from.te beginning I had no issues and since yesterday it started, same settings.. anybody an idea if it will ve solved by samsung soon?
Nothing you can do, recording at 1080p requires only 2 mpixels, the whole sensor is 12 mpixels. If you record at 4k it'll zoom in less than at 1080p.
gidomeijer said:
Hi there,
Got the Samsung S7 and from today when trying to use the camcorder recording mode it will zoom in and not having the current view when it's on normal camera mode. Can someone help how to solve this, factory reset didn't work.
VGA and 1:1 quality works without zoom in but the HD, FHD 1920*1080 and above not.
Thanks.
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Just turn off video stabilisation and the zooming would be gone! Suppose you know why.
KenHua said:
Just turn off video stabilisation and the zooming would be gone! Suppose you know why.
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That doesn't work. and this is OIS, not EIS so it shouldn't matter.
So this is due to the camera sensor size? It's very annoying. Especially when I frame my video then start to record and then I'm zoomed in
razorseal said:
That doesn't work. and this is OIS, not EIS so it shouldn't matter.
So this is due to the camera sensor size? It's very annoying. Especially when I frame my video then start to record and then I'm zoomed in
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The video stabilisation in setting is EIS. OIS is built in the hardware and can not be turn on/off. It is permanently on.
And you can't magically take a 16:9 video/image on the 4:3 sensor without cropping.
If you are annoying by zoom in effect when framing the scene, you can first change the image resolution to the one with 16:9 ratio thus already cropped viewfinder before framing the video.
The sensor in S7 is not a native 16:9 sensor like in S6, it is a 4:3 sensor so in order for you to record in 16:9 resolution video, it needs to crop the image while also giving you an impression of zooming in due cropping. The reason why VGA is fine is because its resolution ratio is already in 4:3 format, just resized down to VGA resolution. All 4:3 sensors including the one being used in DSLR are also cropping the image when video recording in 16:9 format.
So if I select 16:9 ratio for stills, will this effect video quality selected at FHD?
Jairus24 said:
The sensor in S7 is not a native 16:9 sensor like in S6, it is a 4:3 sensor so in order for you to record in 16:9 resolution video, it needs to crop the image while also giving you an impression of zooming in due cropping. The reason why VGA is fine is because its resolution ratio is already in 4:3 format, just resized down to VGA resolution. All 4:3 sensors including the one being used in DSLR are also cropping the image when video recording in 16:9 format.
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I know this is a dead thread by now, but this doesn't really address the issue. The GS7 does more than just crop the 4:3 into 16:9, it also crops in a large amount when selecting 1080p as opposed to downsampling the 1080p image as some other cameras do. This is quite annoying, as even if all I need is 1080p I still have to select UHD to get a wide enough FOV, wasting storage space and meaning I have to downsample it later.
Realized later that the above is only true if you have video stabilization on, disregard it, I'm not sure how to delete my reply
Help me understand. I was looking at the functions of the camera in settings. There are so many to choose from and I'm not sure which will be use as default daily 'point and shoot' while still looking nice after uploading to social media. I couldn't really find much info online so hopefully experience users can help out!
I think the reason why I am looking for advises is which options should I choose due to aspect ratio, I just don't get this as 4:3 which has the highest MP, and 16:9 is lower and so forth. 4:3 yes it's smaller frame and 16:9 vice versa.
Rear camera - picture size:
4:3 (12M) or 16:9(9.1M) I didn't bother about the rest since when I look at the megapixels gets lower it surely produce lower quality, so the two will be my top 2 choices.
Video I only use 60fps, it's the only thing stopping me from flashing away TW. TW is fine as it is for me now but not last time (I came from Note 1) and always been a Note user, for some reason cant wait for Note 8 release, so I bought the S8+ 2 weeks ago, told myself let's try the S series for once. I derailed
Lastly, HDR mode under what situation where and when do I choose this? Auto? On? Off?
blecap said:
Help me understand. I was looking at the functions of the camera in settings. There are so many to choose from and I'm not sure which will be use as default daily 'point and shoot' while still looking nice after uploading to social media. I couldn't really find much info online so hopefully experience users can help out!
I think the reason why I am looking for advises is which options should I choose due to aspect ratio, I just don't get this as 4:3 which has the highest MP, and 16:9 is lower and so forth. 4:3 yes it's smaller frame and 16:9 vice versa.
Rear camera - picture size:
4:3 (12M) or 16:9(9.1M) I didn't bother about the rest since when I look at the megapixels gets lower it surely produce lower quality, so the two will be my top 2 choices.
Video I only use 60fps, it's the only thing stopping me from flashing away TW. TW is fine as it is for me now but not last time (I came from Note 1) and always been a Note user, for some reason cant wait for Note 8 release, so I bought the S8+ 2 weeks ago, told myself let's try the S series for once. I derailed
Lastly, HDR mode under what situation where and when do I choose this? Auto? On? Off?
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The aspect ratio has nothing to do with the number of megapixels. The camera sensor itself is 4:3. Choosing 16:9 will basically just crop top and bottom of the sensor. So you're always better off shooting in OAR, 4:3 in this case, then crop in post.
Itaintrite said:
The aspect ratio has nothing to do with the number of megapixels. The camera sensor itself is 4:3. Choosing 16:9 will basically just crop top and bottom of the sensor. So you're always better off shooting in OAR, 4:3 in this case, then crop in post.
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Help me understand cropping, perhaps I still do not get it. How do you crop an image that is 4:3 (smaller) but 16:9(bigger), I mean more reason to be able to crop it down to 4:3 size? Btw, I always take pictures/videos in landscape
blecap said:
Help me understand cropping, perhaps I still do not get it. How do you crop an image that is 4:3 (smaller) but 16:9(bigger), I mean more reason to be able to crop it down to 4:3 size? Btw, I always take pictures/videos in landscape
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The ratio is just the ratio and doesn't represent true size. If you want to compare the two, 4:3 is 16:12. So it'll be possible to crop 12 down to 9.
Itaintrite said:
The ratio is just the ratio and doesn't represent true size. If you want to compare the two, 4:3 is 16:12. So it'll be possible to crop 12 down to 9.
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Getting to get it a little. Now for HDR under what circumstances do you use this mode? There are 3 options.
blecap said:
Getting to get it a little. Now for HDR under what circumstances do you use this mode? There are 3 options.
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If you want super realistic photos, HDR off. HDR can either be legit or default processed and in the samsung camera app it's just a process.
When I take an HDR image with my Canon T6i, you take 3 shots. A low exposure, regular exposure, high exposure and then use a computer to blend them together creating a very vivid picture.
There are camera apps on the app store that take the photos this way. The HDR on the samsung camera app is very tame by comparison, but it's still monkeying with the pictures.
I find the majority of people like the HDR images and honestly it's personal preference. You'll have to just take some test photos and see what you like.
Find a subject, flower, car, house, whatever and take a picture of it with each. Off, Auto, On and see what you like best. Auto is going to try and make it least intrusive and so depending on the light and shadows it'll alter the picture to try and make it "better."
Here is an example of a "real" HDR image made by combining 3 photos. Should explain best what HDR does. My grass is not that neon lol.
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If you want super realistic photos, HDR off. HDR can either be legit or default processed and in the samsung camera app it's just a process.
When I take an HDR image with my Canon T6i, you take 3 shots. A low exposure, regular exposure, high exposure and then use a computer to blend them together creating a very vivid picture.
There are camera apps on the app store that take the photos this way. The HDR on the samsung camera app is very tame by comparison, but it's still monkeying with the pictures.
I find the majority of people like the HDR images and honestly it's personal preference. You'll have to just take some test photos and see what you like.
Find a subject, flower, car, house, whatever and take a picture of it with each. Off, Auto, On and see what you like best. Auto is going to try and make it least intrusive and so depending on the light and shadows it'll alter the picture to try and make it "better."
Here is an example of a "real" HDR image made by combining 3 photos. Should explain best what HDR does. My grass is not that neon lol.
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Cheers, guess i just have to test the HDR myself.
If you look at photos mainly on your device then i would normally suggest 16:9, but now the S8+ has 18:something, if you don't choose this then the photo will never fill your mobile screen.
But agreed if you want max then 4:3, then edit therafter.
I prefer the former.
I don't understand why you would want to take a picture in 4:3 then crop it to 16:9 as someone here suggests. The camera options give the same horizontal measurement for both aspect ratios so why not just take a photo in 16:9 in the first place and not have to do any cropping? Maybe I misunderstood the post.
dwj said:
I don't understand why you would want to take a picture in 4:3 then crop it to 16:9 as someone here suggests. The camera options give the same horizontal measurement for both aspect ratios so why not just take a photo in 16:9 in the first place and not have to do any cropping? Maybe I misunderstood the post.
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I'd think because you'd have more megapixels in your image.
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Ok. I guess what is meant is that if a photo is taken in 4:3 and then cropped but not by as much as cropping into a 16:9 image. I misread the post then.
Anyway, I have been playing with camera on auto and on manual settings and found results excellent on a large pc monitor so no worries for the op about quality issues in different aspect ratios.
Rydah805 said:
I'd think because you'd have more megapixels in your image.
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If one wants pictures in the 16:9 aspect ratio, if he takes a 4:3 picture and then crop it to 16:9, at the end he gets the same number of pixels as when taking the picture in the 16:9 mode.
So in this case cropping is only a waste of time...
Sticking with 4:3 gives you more options. Its recording more of the scene, so you can crop, or not, later as you like. That's really the only difference.
HDR often helps in low light, or bad conditions, but can make bright scenes look a bit too intense. It helps with dark or bright regions in a picture, so you might get more detail in dark areas and more details in clouds, or on water.
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If one wants pictures in the 16:9 aspect ratio, if he takes a 4:3 picture and then crop it to 16:9, at the end he gets the same number of pixels as when taking the picture in the 16:9 mode.
So in this case cropping is only a waste of time...
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Not necessarily. If you take a peek into the camera settings you'll see there are multiple options for megapixels.
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Rydah805 said:
Not necessarily. If you take a peek into the camera settings you'll see there are multiple options for megapixels.
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But if we are comparing only the best possible camera 4:3 and 16:9 resolutions, IMHO it doesn't matter in terms of megapixels if at the end we want to get a 16:9 picture, even taken in 4:3 and then cropped, or taken just in 16:9.
Best 4:3 available = 4032 x 3024 (12 M)
Best 16:9 available = 4032 x 2268 (9.1 M)
As the picture width is the same for both, a 4:3 picture cropped to a 16:9 aspect ratio has a final height of 2268 pixels, so this too is a 4032 x 2268, just the same as the best available 16:9 resolution.
It's basic mathematics...
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Not necessarily. If you take a peek into the camera settings you'll see there are multiple options for megapixels.
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That's quite true but I think the previous poster was referring, like I was earlier, to the 4:3 and 16:9 options that have the same horizontal pixel count in settings options.
Lost pixels can't be recovered. If you're certain you're okay with 16:9 format though, just shoot in 16:9 and save space. I shoot in 4:3 because once in a while, I like to crop my photos vertically in post (rarely but it happens).
Alright got this reply from another forum, Pretty sure this is the reply what I was looking for:
" You're confusing overall all MP with the MP used at different aspect ratios. The 16:9 and 4:3 have the same resolution. All the 16:9 does is crop the top and bottom which gives you a lower MP. The resolution is the same because the used pixel density is still the same.
There IS a difference between 4:3 (12M) and 4:3 (6.2M) though. Half the pixels are not being used. The same goes for 16:9 (9.1) and 16:9 (3.7). "
Still confusing if the answers are already being answered here but I understood this clearly.
So I love my pixel 2 and its google photos integration, I also like how when you take a burst/portrait photo it saves the original under the same photo (you open the photo and the 2 photos are at the bottom.) Now I have been for the longest of time just taking my photos in a 16:9 but with such a good camera I want all the pixels I can, so I switched to 4:3 but I HATE 4:3 so damn much, so my question, how do I save the original 4:3 photo but have a 16:9 photo taken by default too, cropped properly and selected as the `default`?
If you hate 4:3, just change the default to 16:9 in the camera settings? Sorry, I don't think the official google camera app supports dual formats. However, you could probably automate it with something like Tasker. If (new photo detected), send to (photo resizer), for example.
ViperPyro said:
If you hate 4:3, just change the default to 16:9 in the camera settings? Sorry, I don't think the official google camera app supports dual formats. However, you could probably automate it with something like Tasker. If (new photo detected), send to (photo resizer), for example.
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I never thought of tasker, Ill look into this soon, I hate 16:9 but throwing away data seems stupid and poor practice.
Update, I have tasker doing it automatically but since I take landscape and portrait photos this doesnt really work, someone mentioned that I can just offload this work to my pc, which I will do. Will edit this post with tasker info soon
Just wanna ask if anyone here remembers back when phone screens all used the 4:3 aspect ratio? I hate the new 18:9 - it's just too wide for most content viewing.
PuffDaddy_d said:
Just wanna ask if anyone here remembers back when phone screens all used the 4:3 aspect ratio? I hate the new 18:9 - it's just too wide for most content viewing.
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I have my nexus one infront of me and its a 16:9 so I mean... Also I havent had much experiece with 2:1 but my experience has been good
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I never thought of tasker, Ill look into this soon, I hate 16:9 but throwing away data seems stupid and poor practice.
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Dont you always crop the pictures anyway
With 4:3 you have more image vertical, horizontal is the same, so you have more to crop from :good:
Hello, has someone figured a way to change the default square resolution of the selfies taken when the phone is closed? I would like the standard 16:9 resolution, not cropped on both sides. Thanks for replies. M.