Hi all,
Looking for some advice please as a newbie to Android.
I have a Nexus 5 32gb on order that is being delivered any day now.
My assumption is that when I turn it on, it will have Android 4.4 installed as default.
I intend to immediately root my device prior to setting it up with all my personal data etc.
My questions are:
Do I install the 4.4.2 update OTA prior to rooting the device? I imagine this would make the most sense as there may not be further updates for a while - is this right?
If I do install the 4.4.2 update OTA and then root the device - for future updates, do I then have to install a 'Custom Rom'? - for example if/when Android upgrades to 4.5
Are there some good guides showing how to install a stock/vanilla Android upgrade?
If/when I install a 'Custom Rom' of 4.5 , what would happen to my root priviledges? I assume they would disappear? what then?
Is there a good repo/site for stock/vanilla Android OS?
Many thanks in advance,
litfoo
You'll want to first update to 4.4.2, as it will save a bit of time.
What happened with my Nexus is I rooted it while on the 4.4.1 update, and then when 4.4.2 came around, I was able to use OTA which installed it through TWRP. I had to re-root my device and reinstall TWRP after this.
There are guides on how to sideload OTA updates, which is a way to update android.
Most custom roms will come with root, so you may not have to re-root.
Factory nexus 5 images are available here
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
amcgavin said:
You'll want to first update to 4.4.2, as it will save a bit of time.
What happened with my Nexus is I rooted it while on the 4.4.1 update, and then when 4.4.2 came around, I was able to use OTA which installed it through TWRP. I had to re-root my device and reinstall TWRP after this.
There are guides on how to sideload OTA updates, which is a way to update android.
Most custom roms will come with root, so you may not have to re-root.
Factory nexus 5 images are available here
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Many thanks for this .
So - once rooted, I can flash device with an updated Factory Nexus 5 image? If yes, I assume this will lose root?
If I wanted a custom rom of a factory Nexus5 image, but with root - where's the best place to find these and what are the most popular ones?
Cheers,
litfoo
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Hello everyone.
I am a happy owner of NEXUS S and I wanted to ask if I will ever receive future official updates OTA, has I've unlocked and rooted the same with the superboot MoDaCo (Even used Rom Manager to donwload ClockWorkMod)
Thank You very much
You will receive the update notifications as long as you don't flash a custom rom that has it disabled (which most do). In your current state, you will receive the update but if you choose to accept it, you will lose root and clockwork and will need to re-root again. The best way to update is to wait for a flashable update release on xda where you could update without losing root.
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you will receive the update being rooted long before you would if you were stock and never rooted. when the next OTA comes out, it will be on the forum in the first 3 seconds and you will flash it. but if you were stock you'd be waiting 1 week for the rollout to hit your device.
and you can alwyas go back to stock ROM if you REALLY want to sit there and wait for google to push the update to your phone the official way. otherwise, everybody just manually updates as soon as the link is released.
just ignore the OTA update, as it will usually break the custom ROMs if you try to install them.
wait for the custom ROMs to include the OTA update into their next build
thank You very much for support.
only one question even if it is OT
After manually updated my nexus 2.3.2. to original stock 2.3.3 I've seen that there is an app called BOOK of 0kb that can't be uninstalled. Why? How can I remove it?
that is Google books
it is build in part of the stock ROM
that means it is not using any storage space
thank You very much.
So i eventually received my lollipop OTA this morning (UK, EE).............
But what exactly do i do with it
I'm rooted (Locked BL). I obviously can't install the OTA the normal way, can i ?
I was waiting for some custom ROMS to be made available but don't seem to see any. Will these follow soon since the Lollipop update has went global?
I'm kinda torn tbh.... i have my phone set up perfectly on KitKat and it looks amazing and some of my favourite xposed tweaks aren't available on Lollipop e.g. Blurred System UI.
Anyway...If i should decide to install Lollipop (i probably will) what would be the best method?
(Are we talking going back to stock, installing OTA, then re-rooting, or is there a more simple method?)
I believe u only lose root. Install and re-root is my fiddy cent...
Download your respective firmware and make a pre-rooted rom based on it.
And flash it via recovery.
Stick with KitKat.
Sorry to hijack the thread but if I root without unlocking bootloader, will I get to update normally via ota or companion app? I don't mind losing root access if only to reboot later. And does it affect drm keys etc?
I'm rooted with kitkat and received the prompt for lollipop OTA. The point is it downloads but won't install, so to upgrade you'd need to use flashtool, PC companion or boot into recovery and flash an appropriate zip. None of those should have any effect on your DRM, but you'll lose root unless you're flashing a pre-rooted version of lollipop. If you do opt for a rooted version of lollipop it's still a bit unclear whether recovery is fully available to you, and xposed installer has a rack of issues either way...... you might want to hold for now?
Thanks for that I'll wait it out for now. The only real reason I was really updating was for the move to sd feature. Do anyone know of any alternatives?
The point is, I just wanted root until the ota. So it will update normally via sony PC companion?
OTA Can't Verify on Rooted Device
I noticed the update this morning. Phone rebooted like it was going to work but didn't. Now it allows me to download it over and over and each time it says "could not verify". Is there any good reason to want this update? I'm rooted on the 77fw and my phone works fine as is. I do not want to update and find out I lost root. Unless there is a very good reason to, I'll just wait and see if a rooted zip becomes available.
Stickin with kitkat. I will not run without root.
I have successfully rooted my note 12.2 - thanks to this awesome forum.
With that I can't do OTA or use Kies to stay up to date. So I'd like to know how I can stay up to date as Samsung releases new firmwares? For example I just downloaded the newly released 5.0.2 from Samobile and flashed it with Odin 3.09. That went well but of course it wiped my machine so I'm starting fresh again. I'd like to be able to stay up to date with out a complete re-wipe each time if possible. Thoughts?
As a long time root user I can tell you that the cardinal rule is that one should give up the notion of getting OTA updates for good once one roots for the simple fact that with each major OTA update comes the risk of losing root forever should the update lock the doors on the exploit used to gain root to begin with.
Casual root users are best served by watching forum threads after updates are released to see how more experienced users are fairing with getting their devices up to date. The exception to this is if a custom ROM is installed and the developer updates the ROM periodically to integrate the updated software or features that the device manufacturer releases. Even then, if a major update is released that let's say jumps to a new system like kitkat to lollipop there's a chance that a full wipe can't be avoided. ROM developers typically warn users when clean installs are required, and some even distribute their own OTAs.
I'm a religious user of titanium backup, and I will often dirty flash a ROM update or use prior titanium backups to restore data but this can be risky business when major updates are released because if software or drivers change from one major firmware release to another a backup of a particular application may no longer be compatible and stability may be affected upon restore.
Bottom line, if you want lollipop on your note pro, rooted, can live with the current bluetooth issues and want to be able to update further easily while retaining root then go with a custom ROM like civs and just monitor the thread of that ROM for updates.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the excellent advice. One two more more question on the topic. I had root on KitKat, but after flashing the new stock Lollipop via Odin, I lost root. So after installing the stock Lollipop I had to re-do the root flash via Odin to get root back, thankfully it all worked out. (Lollipop is awesome BTW).
Questions:
1. Was I in danger of forever losing root as you state above or was this a safe route? I understand that OTA and even Kies can make me lose root forever, but what about flashing a stock via Odin?
2. Are you saying that next time there's an update I could try to dirty flash the ROM via TWM (after doing a good backup via Titanium of course)? Basically find ROM on samobile, download, copy to SD card and dirty flash away using these suggestions: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/sthr8/dirty_flashing_what_it_is_and_is_not_lets_set_the/
Typically to keep root the stock recovery is replaced with a custom one, TWRP is the main one used for our device. Stock updates from Samsung downloaded as OTA will typically fail to flash in TWRP. Odin flashing stock images will erase everything including the custom recovery, thus causing loss of root. In other words you'll typically lose root one way or another and the key to retaining it is to not blindly update until a root method is ensured for the next version of firmware. Resign to the fact that with each update you will temporarily lose root and need to redo it. Plan ahead, wait for root confirmation and then update with a plan of how to get root again.
I typically don't TWRP flash stock so I don't know if it works but in the distant past I recall that it wouldn't so thus I never try. Maybe someone can confirm. For me I haven't updated firmware on my note pro for a year now and I am not missing anything. ..
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I recently bought a nexus 5, and just updated to 4.4.3. I know this phone runs lollipop but I'm not getting any notifications to update, what do I do?
PS I'm nowhere near confident enough to flash a ROM so suggestions other than that please
Apply OTA updates manually or directly flash the latest factory images. All guides can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...urce-guides-info-threads-linked-read-t2784527
Hello,
I have a Nexus 5 and installed Android 6.0 OTA and I rooted the phone. I recently got a notice for Android system update (2.5MB) and I have a problem with the update I suppose because of that root.
Update gets downloaded, the device restarts and then on the screen I get an error.
Does anyone know what the problem is and how to make the update?
Thanks!
Yes, I think a great number of people know the answer... I had to ask the same question myself a long time ago.
Since Android 5 (I think) the OTA process looks at the entire system for any changes to the ROM partitions, and it will update only if the ROM is intact and unchanged. Root changes the ROM, therefore no update.
I believe that you can update manually by flashing just the system partition, but you'll then have to re-root the phone.
It was precisely for this reason that I got fed up with root, despite its many advantages, and now run encrypted, unrooted, and with Netguard firewall protecting at least some of my privacy.
NoOne12 said:
Hello,
I have a Nexus 5 and installed Android 6.0 OTA and I rooted the phone. I recently got a notice for Android system update (2.5MB) and I have a problem with the update I suppose because of that root.
Update gets downloaded, the device restarts and then on the screen I get an error.
Does anyone know what the problem is and how to make the update?
Thanks!
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u should update before making any changes in the system folder or to the recovery.
You should not take the OTA updates while rooted.
One solution would be to download the factory image for the update and fastboot flash system.img from the download, wipe cache, then reinstall supersu.