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I used the root.bat method to enable Apps2SD on my LG Optimus GT540 - Eclair, today. I've installed atleast 80 apps yet, n leaving few aside, most of the apps are installing on the SD card.
But, now when I plugged in my SD card thru a card reader to check how much of the Ext2 partition is filled with app installation, I found that only 16mb of the 512mb partition is filled !!!
The phone isnt storing apps on the internal storage, as earlier, it had 98mb internal memory n now 75mb coz some of the apps automatically installed on the internal memory. Where the hell is it installing the apps then?
What the hell is going on?
niraj87 said:
I used the root.bat method to enable Apps2SD on my LG Optimus GT540 - Eclair, today. I've installed atleast 80 apps yet, n leaving few aside, most of the apps are installing on the SD card.
But, now when I plugged in my SD card thru a card reader to check how much of the Ext2 partition is filled with app installation, I found that only 16mb of the 512mb partition is filled !!!
The phone isnt storing apps on the internal storage, as earlier, it had 98mb internal memory n now 75mb coz some of the apps automatically installed on the internal memory. Where the hell is it installing the apps then?
What the hell is going on?
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I kind of have an idea of what's happening here but I don't know how to explain but I'll try. In froyo, when you move the apps to sd card, the size of the app "reduces". That is, if it takes about 5 MB in internal storage, it'll take only some KBs in the memory card, the app is saved in the memory card but it takes a lot less space. I don't know why but this is the case on froyo. I hope I've helped you in someway!
^^Your clarification did help, but now I've installed arnd 150 apps n many of them are large games of 6-10mb, but still the Ext2 is filled only 16mb !!! Its not like its being compressed in Froyo, like u explained, but its something much stranger, coz even if it takes memory in kbs on the SD card in Froyo, its not taking ANY space in my case.
If we assume that the Partition tool that I used on PC isnt reading the installed Ext2 for some reason, then it should have either displayed that the Ext2 parition is EMPTY or the actual size of 150 apps installed, but why only 16mb still?
And another query is y does it install some apps on the internal memory?
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^^Your clarification did help, but now I've installed arnd 150 apps n many of them are large games of 6-10mb, but still the Ext2 is filled only 16mb !!! Its not like its being compressed in Froyo, like u explained, but its something much stranger, coz even if it takes memory in kbs on the SD card in Froyo, its not taking ANY space in my case.
If we assume that the Partition tool that I used on PC isnt reading the installed Ext2 for some reason, then it should have either displayed that the Ext2 parition is EMPTY or the actual size of 150 apps installed, but why only 16mb still?
And another query is y does it install some apps on the internal memory?
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Check the standard SD partition free space, because maybe the apps are not being moved to ext2 but to normal sd partition.
niraj87 said:
I used the root.bat method to enable Apps2SD on my LG Optimus GT540 - Eclair, today. I've installed atleast 80 apps yet, n leaving few aside, most of the apps are installing on the SD card.
But, now when I plugged in my SD card thru a card reader to check how much of the Ext2 partition is filled with app installation, I found that only 16mb of the 512mb partition is filled !!!
The phone isnt storing apps on the internal storage, as earlier, it had 98mb internal memory n now 75mb coz some of the apps automatically installed on the internal memory. Where the hell is it installing the apps then?
What the hell is going on?
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the same thing happened to me!
^^The above has been solved now.
I thnk the reason for that is all apps cannot be installed on the SD card (even after this method of Apps2SD), due to app permissions or something else I'm not aware of.
I used the app AndRootFile to check out where the apps are being installed. They're installed at System/sdcard/app. This app clearly states the size of the parition created n how much of it is used currently, at the top, in my case 512mb ext2 parition.
Hello. I have a Motorola Milestone XT-720 Android Dexter's 2.2.1 Froyo Kahlpower's V4 GalaxyXT ROM. Is it possible to install the ROM on the SD card ? - I mean for the phone to be able to boot ROM from SD card. I’m asking for this, because when I install some app on the sd card it takes up space, but at the same time this app also takes up space on the internal storage. I know that is normal, but the phone has 250MB internal storage and after installing the ROM the free space is about only 150-160MB. Thanks in advance.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. The ROM must be located on the phone.
OK....I have 4-5 apps installed and 110MB free space internal storage. So, I have enough space for may be 5-6 more apps and what will happen after that?... Then I will use my phone only to view photos or may be like a mp3-player?
V_XT720 said:
OK....I have 4-5 apps installed and 110MB free space internal storage. So, I have enough space for may be 5-6 more apps and what will happen after that?... Then I will use my phone only to view photos or may be like a mp3-player?
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I don't have a single app that is over 5 mb in size. I do believe that you are mistaken on how big apps really are. Most apps are well under 1 mb.
So you have GalaxyXT V4 and the SD has one Partition?
Than have a look at the Market and search for "Move2Sd Enabler" from Roberto Leinardi......Install it...open it.....chose the "Extern" entry and press OK/Save or what ever......after that you can go to your apps under Settings....there you will find an entry "Move to SD" or something like that......you can move every App you installed....but you should not move any System apps....
reverendkjr said:
I don't have a single app that is over 5 mb in size. I do believe that you are mistaken on how big apps really are. Most apps are well under 1 mb.
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Let me give you an examples:
1- IGO - around 9MB data storage (in newest version was more);
2- Skype - almоst 5MB
And 2-3 more apps which can not be moved to the SD card....and you know the result..... May be I'm wrong, but after every single app installed on the phone the internal storage dramatically reduced. I really don't know what to do
Enricosteph said:
So you have GalaxyXT V4 and the SD has one Partition?
Than have a look at the Market and search for "Move2Sd Enabler" from Roberto Leinardi......Install it...open it.....chose the "Extern" entry and press OK/Save or what ever......after that you can go to your apps under Settings....there you will find an entry "Move to SD" or something like that......you can move every App you installed....but you should not move any System apps....
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Yes, I know how to move my apps to the SD card (I have app2sd). But also used storage on SD card there is “ Data storage” and this is used internal storage. I know that is normal the app to save settings, accounts and so on to internal storage, but I think that these ”Data storage” files are too big.
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Hello. I have a Motorola Milestone XT-720 Android Dexter's 2.2.1 Froyo Kahlpower's V4 GalaxyXT ROM. Is it possible to install the ROM on the SD card ? - I mean for the phone to be able to boot ROM from SD card. I’m asking for this, because when I install some app on the sd card it takes up space, but at the same time this app also takes up space on the internal storage. I know that is normal, but the phone has 250MB internal storage and after installing the ROM the free space is about only 150-160MB. Thanks in advance.
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The phone has 256MB that is divided into partitions. Some goes to the kernel, some goes to hold the system, some goes to cache, some goes to other stuff. The "internal memory" (where apps get installed) is partitioned at 170MB. So, in terms of internal memory, you should think of it as 150MB/170MB not 150MB/256MB.
Mioze7Ae said:
The phone has 256MB that is divided into partitions. Some goes to the kernel, some goes to hold the system, some goes to cache, some goes to other stuff. The "internal memory" (where apps get installed) is partitioned at 170MB. So, in terms of internal memory, you should think of it as 150MB/170MB not 150MB/256MB.
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Ok…..you’re right. But I think that you know the main idea of the conversation. These 150MB are enough to install about a dozen apps.
V_XT720 said:
Ok…..you’re right. But I think that you know the main idea of the conversation. These 150MB are enough to install about a dozen apps.
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if your are using a Dex or Kalh ROM RTFM man, move to ext or gtfo lol
Mioze7Ae said:
The phone has 256MB that is divided into partitions. Some goes to the kernel, some goes to hold the system, some goes to cache, some goes to other stuff. The "internal memory" (where apps get installed) is partitioned at 170MB. So, in terms of internal memory, you should think of it as 150MB/170MB not 150MB/256MB.
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I think it's 512 ROM & 256 RAM & I have over 70 apps installed.
3rdstring said:
I think it's 512 ROM & 256 RAM & I have over 70 apps installed.
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I think you're right. Sorry for any confusion.
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Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/block/mtdblock7 199.6M 194.3M 5.3M 97% /system
/dev/block/mtdblock9 173.1M 52.1M 121.0M 30% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock8 106.0M 62.8M 43.2M 59% /cache
/dev/block/mtdblock6 8.8M 8.5M 300.0K 97% /cdrom
/dev/block/mtdblock0 1.5M 1.3M 180.0K 88% /pds
3rdstring said:
I think it's 512 ROM & 256 RAM & I have over 70 apps installed.
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How can I do this? How can I install so many apps??? Maybe I need to move the data folder to the SD card???
V_XT720 said:
How can I do this? How can I install so many apps??? Maybe I need to move the data folder to the SD card???
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I guess it will depend on the apps & I will look for smaller alternatives, especially if it's something I only use occasionally. (My apps)
I only have one partition on my sdcard & use native froyo apps2sd along with Move2SD Enabler (which enables moving user apps to the sd even if the dev hasn't added that option to his app) to move large / infrequently used apps to the sdcard. I find the limiting factor on my phone to be the RAM (so I will shy away from apps that are constantly running in the background) & the dalvik-cache on the cache partition.
3rdstring said:
I guess it will depend on the apps & I will look for smaller alternatives, especially if it's something I only use occasionally. (My apps)
I only have one partition on my sdcard & use native froyo apps2sd along with Move2SD Enabler (which enables moving user apps to the sd even if the dev hasn't added that option to his app) to move large / infrequently used apps to the sdcard. I find the limiting factor on my phone to be the RAM (so I will shy away from apps that are constantly running in the background) & the dalvik-cache on the cache partition.
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I also have one partition on my SD card (FAT32) and app2sd, but I don't have Move2SD Enabler. I will install it. You have more than 70 apps....so, how many MB's you have on the internal storage?
V_XT720 said:
I also have one partition on my SD card (FAT32) and app2sd, but I don't have Move2SD Enabler. I will install it. You have more than 70 apps....so, how many MB's you have on the internal storage?
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I'm at @44MB free at the moment.
I really don't know what happen with this phone...I installed VPlayer PRO from the market - 10MB. Before installation the internal storage was 127MB and external - 7.05GB. After that - 117MB internal and 7.04.....I checked in app2sd where is installed the app - it was on SD CARD
Mioze7Ae said:
I think you're right. Sorry for any confusion.
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Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/block/mtdblock7 199.6M 194.3M 5.3M 97% /system
/dev/block/mtdblock9 173.1M 52.1M 121.0M 30% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock8 106.0M 62.8M 43.2M 59% /cache
/dev/block/mtdblock6 8.8M 8.5M 300.0K 97% /cdrom
/dev/block/mtdblock0 1.5M 1.3M 180.0K 88% /pds
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Hi, hey Mioze7Ae just a quik quiestion, for what is the system partition? and it's ok if i have just 1 or 2 Mb free in it? I'm experiencing lags this two or thre weeks ago, so i thought maybe can be because i have full the system partition? i have V4 galaxyxt
Thanks a lot
Cesantony said:
Hi, hey Mioze7Ae just a quik quiestion, for what is the system partition? and it's ok if i have just 1 or 2 Mb free in it? I'm experiencing lags this two or thre weeks ago, so i thought maybe can be because i have full the system partition? i have V4 galaxyxt
Thanks a lot
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The system partition is meant to run read-only. Normal use won't even try to write to it. I don't think a nearly full /system is a problem at all. If /system is too full, the only problem I've seen is that metamorph might have trouble applying a theme.
Lags are caused by too little free RAM, which is different. When the phone runs out of memory it has to do garbage collection (that's what causes the pause). You can try Autokiller Memory Optimizer from the market. This app lets you tweak the Android built-in memory management parameters to reduce the number of active background tasks (which when tuned properly results in a larger default pool of free memory and thus garbage collection is not needed as often). I like the "optimal" setting myself but you'll probably have to play with it to match your load.
V_XT720 said:
Hello. I have a Motorola Milestone XT-720 Android Dexter's 2.2.1 Froyo Kahlpower's V4 GalaxyXT ROM. Is it possible to install the ROM on the SD card ? - I mean for the phone to be able to boot ROM from SD card. I’m asking for this, because when I install some app on the sd card it takes up space, but at the same time this app also takes up space on the internal storage. I know that is normal, but the phone has 250MB internal storage and after installing the ROM the free space is about only 150-160MB. Thanks in advance.
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Cant he just make an ext3 partition on his sd card & then make a app folder?
Thats what I did & I have 20 apps installed with 161mb free on the phone.
If I missed something please correct me.
Hi guys , I have been using this handset since october, i have tried all roms till date and other tweaks , one thing i still couldnt get it is how to increase the internal memory.. the whole things is still a zig zag puzzle for me. if sumone can help me with step by step tutorial , will be gr8. i have tried creating partition in my sd card via cwm , bt in vain. infact ended up corrupting my card and got it replaced.
nivedith007 said:
Hi guys , I have been using this handset since october, i have tried all roms till date and other tweaks , one thing i still couldnt get it is how to increase the internal memory.. the whole things is still a zig zag puzzle for me. if sumone can help me with step by step tutorial , will be gr8. i have tried creating partition in my sd card via cwm , bt in vain. infact ended up corrupting my card and got it replaced.
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Create partitions using Minitools partition wizard. Create ext4(256-512) and linux swap(0-128) partitions. Switch off your phone. Put the SD card in, trboot into recovery and wipe data. And then reboot.
dhirend_6d said:
Create partitions using Minitools partition wizard. Create ext4(256-512) and linux swap(0-128) partitions. Switch off your phone. Put the SD card in, trboot into recovery and wipe data. And then reboot.
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Coul you just elaborate about the Linux swap file? Is it just like the virtual memory on the SD Card? Suppose if we have 16GB card and create larger EXT4 partitions, would we have to still create Linux swap partition of just 128MB?
For those who facing problem of low internel memory(ROOT REQUIRED)
No need to partition SD card
1) install the app
2) backup with titanium backup
2)uninstall the app
4) go to titaninium backup->Preferences->Restore Backup to->externel media
5) Restore the app with Titanium backup,,
by app2sd u can verify location where the app installed.
And your memory will never go low.. u can manage easily..
sanjay.july said:
For those who facing problem of low internel memory(ROOT REQUIRED)
No need to partition SD card
1) install the app
2) backup with titanium backup
2)uninstall the app
4) go to titaninium backup->Preferences->Restore Backup to->externel media
5) Restore the app with Titanium backup,,
by app2sd u can verify location where the app installed.
And your memory will never go low.. u can manage easily..
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Through this way without partition, i guess the apps would be installed in FAT32 partition of the SD Card which is comparatively much slower to EXT4.
mrn123 said:
Coul you just elaborate about the Linux swap file? Is it just like the virtual memory on the SD Card? Suppose if we have 16GB card and create larger EXT4 partitions, would we have to still create Linux swap partition of just 128MB?
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Recommended is 128 MB. 128 MB is more than enough. Swap basically is storage place which can be used as memory by the operating system when system RAM is low.
logi or prima
dhirend_6d said:
Recommended is 128 MB. 128 MB is more than enough. Swap basically is storage place which can be used as memory by the operating system when system RAM is low.
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linux swap logical or primary?
How To Increase Phone Memory in Galaxy Fit? I had heard that there are some ways to make partition on SD card and use them as phone memory but dont know the procedure. Or any other procedure.
Please let me know.
wrong thread ask in general section..........thank you............
Moved to General...
Refer the guide in my sig...
You'll find everything...
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instead of using partitioning set install location 2 so that u can transfer most of ur apps on ur sd card and free up phone memory
works very well for me
abizerl123 said:
instead of using partitioning set install location 2 so that u can transfer most of ur apps on ur sd card and free up phone memory
works very well for me
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i know that....but if i want to use sd partition as phone memory then is it possible
buntymurarka said:
i know that....but if i want to use sd partition as phone memory then is it possible
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Its very risky man.. if u use the partition as phone memory, some system apps might get some error or something like that.. depends on your sdcard class, and its memory, etc..
Correct me if I'm wrong..
Sent from my Galaxy Fit
cygnus39 said:
Its very risky man.. if u use the partition as phone memory, some system apps might get some error or something like that.. depends on your sdcard class, and its memory, etc..
Correct me if I'm wrong..
Sent from my Galaxy Fit
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Nothing wrong in partitioning...
Whatever system errors you might get may be rom dependant...
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a.cid said:
Nothing wrong in partitioning...
Whatever system errors you might get may be rom dependant...
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I know that too man..hehe
I think the op wants to move all the system to the partition ext..???
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System apps on sd ext?
Its there in fitdroid and maybe even razo
Even doc_chielvenerdi.org posted a modded memory hack for stock roms
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Moving the system apps to your memory card partition will cause you problems when you remove the memory card or connect the phone via a USB. They wont be available on your phone until the card is remounted. It is preferred not to have such conflicts with the system apps.
It is better to keep them where they are i.e. in the system. And if you feel your phone memory is running out you can always move other apps to SD Card but not the system ones.
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Moving the system apps to your memory card partition will cause you problems when you remove the memory card or connect the phone via a USB. They wont be available on your phone until the card is remounted. It is preferred not to have such conflicts with the system apps.
It is better to keep them where they are i.e. in the system. And if you feel your phone memory is running out you can always move other apps to SD Card but not the system ones.
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First thing, system apps aren't entirely stored on internel memory, most of them are stored in the system partition...though the user data part of system apps lies in the internel memory...
Even if they tried, they couldn't move the system apps to sd...
If you are referring to sd ext partition, there are a few hacks/mods which do allow you to put your entire internel memory in sd-ext...and if you removed your mem card, the system would behave as if it was its first boot, I.e. no user settings, clean install-like...
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a.cid said:
First thing, system apps aren't entirely stored on internel memory, most of them are stored in the system partition...though the user data part of system apps lies in the internel memory...
Even if they tried, they couldn't move the system apps to sd...
If you are referring to sd ext partition, there are a few hacks/mods which do allow you to put your entire internel memory in sd-ext...and if you removed your mem card, the system would behave as if it was its first boot, I.e. no user settings, clean install-like...
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Oh didn't know about the latter part.
So since my phone is garbage with ram management even with supercharger I tried to create a swap partition to boost performance.
The problem is that the hard swap zip won't install cause it says no swap partition found even though I did create a separate fat32 partition on my sd card. Any ideas?
Btw dies anyone know why I keep getting insufficient storage available even though I have more than 130mb left when trying to update apps?
Sent from my Sensation 4G
Kazireh said:
So since my phone is garbage with ram management even with supercharger I tried to create a swap partition to boost performance.
The problem is that the hard swap zip won't install cause it says no swap partition found even though I did create a separate fat32 partition on my sd card. Any ideas?
Btw dies anyone know why I keep getting insufficient storage available even though I have more than 130mb left when trying to update apps?
Sent from my Sensation 4G
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Partition your swap parition through recovery, and swap partition should be ext4 not fat32
And for your insufficient storage status, it happens because sometimes a certain app you want to download looks for a minimum requirement