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Partitions, appstosd, MoDaCo

I used the recovery partition to create FAT32, ext2, and swap partitions on my sd card.
1) What size does it make each of these partitions?
2) What is each used for?
3) When loading the MoDaCo update.zip (and rebooting after first boot) after creating these partitions, what does it do with each of them? My free space on each seems to change, and I think it's loading some apps to the SD card? But not others?
4) How do you see how much space remains on the fat32 and ext2 partitions? Which one is shown in the SD card info settings page, and which one is used for USB mass storage mode? Neither seems to change much even after I install a bunch of >1MB apps.
Thanks for any help.

Also, what's taking up all my internal phone space? If the update.zip moved apps to the SD card, why do I only have 50 MB left of internal space?

jonnythan said:
I used the recovery partition to create FAT32, ext2, and swap partitions on my sd card.
1) What size does it make each of these partitions?
2) What is each used for?
3) When loading the MoDaCo update.zip (and rebooting after first boot) after creating these partitions, what does it do with each of them? My free space on each seems to change, and I think it's loading some apps to the SD card? But not others?
4) How do you see how much space remains on the fat32 and ext2 partitions? Which one is shown in the SD card info settings page, and which one is used for USB mass storage mode? Neither seems to change much even after I install a bunch of >1MB apps.
Thanks for any help.
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32 mb swap, 500mb ext2 rest fat32
swap is for linux swap if its used in the rom, ext2 is for your apps, and fat32 is for your storage
yes it loads all of your /data/app and /data/app-private apps on your sd card, your /system/app stays there
you can do a df -h under adb to see your free space

jonnythan said:
I used the recovery partition to create FAT32, ext2, and swap partitions on my sd card.
1) What size does it make each of these partitions?
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I believe it makes a 32MB Swap partiton, a 500 MB Ext2 partition and the rest fat32.
jonnythan said:
2) What is each used for?
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The Fat32 is normal files like music, pictures, etc. The ext2 is used for apps2sd. Don't worry, 500MB is more than enough for this. The swap is used for bakcground applications so they run better without slowing the phone down as much.
jonnythan said:
3) When loading the MoDaCo update.zip (and rebooting after first boot) after creating these partitions, what does it do with each of them? My free space on each seems to change, and I think it's loading some apps to the SD card? But not others?
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The Fat32 it shouldnt do anything. Obviously you will have less space because the other partitions are taking some of it's space. It loads the apps onto your ext2 partition but not all of them. System apps such as the calculator, browser, phone, etc stay on the system partition because it's faster.
jonnythan said:
4) How do you see how much space remains on the fat32 and ext2 partitions? Which one is shown in the SD card info settings page, and which one is used for USB mass storage mode? Neither seems to change much even after I install a bunch of >1MB apps.
Thanks for any help.
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Do you have Windows, Linux or Mac. I don't know about Mac but I know Linux can view ext partitions natively (obviously, it's the native filesystem). For Windows you might be able to load the disk management application but if that doesnt show it you need a partitioning application or any other application that can read ext partitions off an sdcard. Don't know any off hand except paragon partitioning manager 9.0 (8.0 never seemed to work with my sd cards)
jonnythan said:
Also, what's taking up all my internal phone space? If the update.zip moved apps to the SD card, why do I only have 50 MB left of internal space?
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See the above explanation.

nelson8403 said:
32 mb swap, 500mb ext2 rest fat32
swap is for linux swap if its used in the rom, ext2 is for your apps, and fat32 is for your storage
yes it loads all of your /data/app and /data/app-private apps on your sd card, your /system/app stays there
you can do a df -h under adb to see your free space
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That answers my questions, thank you.
I found another though. I unmounted my SD card via Settings to see if the apps would fail to work in an effort to try to figure out if they were actually installed there. Predictably, they failed to work, but the system didn't pick the card back up after I reinserted it. So I rebooted the phone with the SD card in.
Then everything died. The apps didn't come back, but the phone still had them listed and tried to launch them, resulting in force-closes. An ext2 repair didn't fix it, so I just went back to my last Nandroid backup and reapplied update.zip.
I learned that this is a Bad Thing to do, but I'm wondering if this was a fluke or is it generally inadvisable to unmount the SD card for this reason?

im a noob to the whole android thing.but how do i partition the sd card and create ext2?????

jonnythan said:
I learned that this is a Bad Thing to do, but I'm wondering if this was a fluke or is it generally inadvisable to unmount the SD card for this reason?
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Since this is a simple symlink, if you reboot the phone without the target of the symlink being there, and the phone tries to use it...
The results are left as an exercise for the reader.
Now for anyone who asks why it isn't smart enough not to break... that's like asking why your car doesn't run if you take half the spak plugs out.

posguy99 said:
Since this is a simple symlink, if you reboot the phone without the target of the symlink being there, and the phone tries to use it...
The results are left as an exercise for the reader.
Now for anyone who asks why it isn't smart enough not to break... that's like asking why your car doesn't run if you take half the spak plugs out.
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Ah, but I'm asking why it still doesn't work once you put the spark plugs back in
It's not a big deal, I certainly learned not to do it.

jonnythan said:
Ah, but I'm asking why it still doesn't work once you put the spark plugs back in
It's not a big deal, I certainly learned not to do it.
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Because booting the phone with it thinking the app was installed but it not able to find it trashed other data structures.

BTW, people trying to do stuff with the SD card removed after putting the apps on the SD card is probably one of the main reasons it currently is root only.
The OS needs to be modified to handle removable app storage gracefully (not something that happens in a standard phone.)

So should you format the card prior to flashing Modaco's ROM so the system knows to install all the apps to the ex2 partition. Or can you format the card AFTER you have already flashed Modaco's ROM and still have the apps automatically install on ext2 partition? I only ask cuz I formatted after flashing the ROM and wanna make sure it's installing it on the ext2.

I formatted mine afterwards and it moved all my apps over to the sd card automatically.

[FIX] use Apps2SD hack or Link2SD to solve the storage space problem in SGS4G

Some of you might now this well, if you had been through the older generation of the phones with very low internal storage space.
Apps2SD Script, Link2SD, and ... another lesser known flavor of App2SD have been used and still in use for a long time to make External SD cards as extended internal memory.
of course you'll need at least a Class 6 of better microSD to not feel the lag.
The great thing is the SGS4G as all its brothers/cousins models comes with its own 14 GB ~ 15 GB of internal storage space (SD card)
so when you use Apps2SD hard link script, or better yet Link2SD then it will by default use the Internal SD card as the memory extension
and you can still use the External SD to transfer stuff.
so even when you remove the External SD you wont disable the internal apps that are running.
the only IMPORTANT Rule to remember when you use this setup is to NOT USE the stock MOUNT USB
instead use the MULTI USB MOUNT or DUAL MOUNT both found in the android market.
that will prevent the Internal SD from being mounted as well, and causing the phone to reboot

[REF]
Link2SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
more details here to use ext3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=923628
the good ol' Apps2SD hack before Froyo was even born
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742126&highlight=apps2sd
Dual Mount SD Widget
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.protocol.x.USB&feature=search_result
Multi Mount SD-Card Free
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rafoid.multimountsdcard.widget.free&feature=search_result

AllGamer said:
so when you use Apps2SD hard link script, or better yet Link2SD then it will by default use the Internal SD card as the memory extension
and you can still use the External SD to transfer stuff.
so even when you remove the External SD you wont disable the internal apps that are running.
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pardon my ignorance, i am getting confused by "internal" and "external" SD, I believe the "internal" is the one that comes with the phone, which one is the "external" one?

external SD = microSD
internal SD = 15 GB of internal space
internal Storage = 1 GB of full bloatware with only 180-ish MB usable space
you will not see external unless you stick in a 16GB or 32GB microSD into the phone

I am confused how this helps Galaxy S 4G users? The Galaxy S 4G lacks the 16gb internal SD, that is the issue. It only has 1gb internal memory of which only ~300 megs appear to be available for app install/storage out of the box. I understand you can install your apps on the external 16gb (included) SD Card but that has always been the case. What am I missing here?

Yeah, I'm missing something here too. The Vibrant has the internal storage of ~16mb while the gs4g does not...
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... wow im finding less and less of a reason to keep this phone ffs... i was told at the tmo store that it has 16g internal and thats not true. these sales reps need to learn there stuff

AllGamer said:
external SD = microSD
internal SD = 15 GB of internal space
internal Storage = 1 GB of full bloatware with only 180-ish MB usable space
you will not see external unless you stick in a 16GB or 32GB microSD into the phone
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Thanks for the help. Even though as dcam and Seanathan mentioned. This Galaxy S 4G phone doesn't come with the Internal SD space like it's brother's have.
If I run out of memory again for apps I will try this out. I manually did the "Move to SD Card" for all the Apps I was able to do that for to get more memory under the Setting's options.

This may sound odd to some, but I prefer the setup with the memory for the S 4G. I actually still have the Vibrant & recently got the S4G, & just out of curiosity, I loaded the same exact apps to the S4G as I had on the Vibrant. Having the apps on the SD card has a tremendous effect on the performance than having them on the internals. There is of course the lag issue on the Vibrant, but the S4G just just kept on trucking, no lags. I even went a step further & pulled up google maps, you tube, media player & still didn't skip a beat. I tried that with the Vibrant & I had to restart...

What people are posting about devs being able to do with 1gb on memory is stupid. I have an hd2 with 1gb running cm7 on it. I still have about 600mb free on it. Of course I use apps2sd on it but that's just a personal preference. Devs will be able to do plenty once all the bloat and crapware is stripped from the 4g
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Beefvvl said:
Thanks for the help. Even though as dcam and Seanathan mentioned. This Galaxy S 4G phone doesn't come with the Internal SD space like it's brother's have.
If I run out of memory again for apps I will try this out. I manually did the "Move to SD Card" for all the Apps I was able to do that for to get more memory under the Setting's options.
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yes, that is true
but the Apps2SD script hack, or the Link2SD still works with the External SD
if you use the Multi mount or Dual mount USB then you can access the files on the PC without breaking the connection internally for the phone apps
ironically that's one of the problem with the Nexus S, the lack of External SD support, and only 1GB of space, so everything needs to be moved to External SD, and be able to use it meanwhile you share file on the PC

has anyone tried to repartition with MiniTool Partition Wizard? after I resized the original partition, and tried to create a new partition, it gave an error messaging saying the new partition could not be created unless I delete all the partitions and re-create from scratch.

AllGamer said:
yes, that is true
but the Apps2SD script hack, or the Link2SD still works with the External SD
if you use the Multi mount or Dual mount USB then you can access the files on the PC without breaking the connection internally for the phone apps
ironically that's one of the problem with the Nexus S, the lack of External SD support, and only 1GB of space, so everything needs to be moved to External SD, and be able to use it meanwhile you share file on the PC
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Just curious. Which one is better out of the two or can you use both in conjunction with each other? Also which App2SD do you use? There are a couple from different devs.

Beefvvl said:
Just curious. Which one is better out of the two or can you use both in conjunction with each other? Also which App2SD do you use? There are a couple from different devs.
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both can be used together
although the Link2SD is quite straight forward
you just need to repartition the SD card to have a linux EXT partition
then you can use either the ext2 or ext3 to mount it and use Link2SD to manage the apps as you would use the native Apps2SD supported by Froyo and newer AOS
unfortunately the Froyo method of Apps2SD only works if the developer of the apps enables it
but Link2SD will force even apps that are not natively apps2SD capable to run from SD

Cool. Thanks for the info. I tried using App2SD from the market but I don't think this is the same App2SD hack that you are referring to. It didn't really help me much at all. I'll try out Link2SD maybe some other time.
I ended up using Titanium Backup and did moved apps to SD. I was able to move the pre-installed apps to SD and also all the other apps that weren't able to move to sd originally.

for the Apps2SD hack to work and/or Link2SD
you will need to have an External SD formatted with a 2nd partition to ext2 for it to work

update
the latest version of Link2SD is FAT32 compatible
so now you no longer have to partition and format the External SD card to have a linux ext2 partition

AllGamer said:
the latest version of Link2SD is FAT32 compatible
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I've found that some Linux systems have some speed penalty when writing to M$ filesystems. There have also been discussions about "aligning" FAT filesystems with flash blocks, such as http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3696
Is there solid evidence about the relative speed of FAT32 vs. ext3 (or ext4) for the partition to be linked to?

I am so glad I found this thread! I've been pulling my hair out over this MAJOR design flaw of minimal app space on the Galaxy S 4G! I felt forced to root this wonderful phone just to have a chance at correcting the designers mistake. I thought I was going to have to wait for a ROM to be released.
I was at 50MB available space before this suggestion and now I have 188MB free! I used paragon partition manager and partitioned 350MB in ext3. That was more than enough, as I've only used about 170 MB of that space. Anyway, thanks all you great people!

How did you get TB to move pre-installed apps? Have tried that to no avail - thanks in advance.

[Q] How to install ROM on the SD card ?

Hello. I have a Motorola Milestone XT-720 Android Dexter's 2.2.1 Froyo Kahlpower's V4 GalaxyXT ROM. Is it possible to install the ROM on the SD card ? - I mean for the phone to be able to boot ROM from SD card. I’m asking for this, because when I install some app on the sd card it takes up space, but at the same time this app also takes up space on the internal storage. I know that is normal, but the phone has 250MB internal storage and after installing the ROM the free space is about only 150-160MB. Thanks in advance.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way. The ROM must be located on the phone.

OK....I have 4-5 apps installed and 110MB free space internal storage. So, I have enough space for may be 5-6 more apps and what will happen after that?... Then I will use my phone only to view photos or may be like a mp3-player?

V_XT720 said:
OK....I have 4-5 apps installed and 110MB free space internal storage. So, I have enough space for may be 5-6 more apps and what will happen after that?... Then I will use my phone only to view photos or may be like a mp3-player?
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I don't have a single app that is over 5 mb in size. I do believe that you are mistaken on how big apps really are. Most apps are well under 1 mb.

So you have GalaxyXT V4 and the SD has one Partition?
Than have a look at the Market and search for "Move2Sd Enabler" from Roberto Leinardi......Install it...open it.....chose the "Extern" entry and press OK/Save or what ever......after that you can go to your apps under Settings....there you will find an entry "Move to SD" or something like that......you can move every App you installed....but you should not move any System apps....

reverendkjr said:
I don't have a single app that is over 5 mb in size. I do believe that you are mistaken on how big apps really are. Most apps are well under 1 mb.
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Let me give you an examples:
1- IGO - around 9MB data storage (in newest version was more);
2- Skype - almоst 5MB
And 2-3 more apps which can not be moved to the SD card....and you know the result..... May be I'm wrong, but after every single app installed on the phone the internal storage dramatically reduced. I really don't know what to do

Enricosteph said:
So you have GalaxyXT V4 and the SD has one Partition?
Than have a look at the Market and search for "Move2Sd Enabler" from Roberto Leinardi......Install it...open it.....chose the "Extern" entry and press OK/Save or what ever......after that you can go to your apps under Settings....there you will find an entry "Move to SD" or something like that......you can move every App you installed....but you should not move any System apps....
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Yes, I know how to move my apps to the SD card (I have app2sd). But also used storage on SD card there is “ Data storage” and this is used internal storage. I know that is normal the app to save settings, accounts and so on to internal storage, but I think that these ”Data storage” files are too big.

V_XT720 said:
Hello. I have a Motorola Milestone XT-720 Android Dexter's 2.2.1 Froyo Kahlpower's V4 GalaxyXT ROM. Is it possible to install the ROM on the SD card ? - I mean for the phone to be able to boot ROM from SD card. I’m asking for this, because when I install some app on the sd card it takes up space, but at the same time this app also takes up space on the internal storage. I know that is normal, but the phone has 250MB internal storage and after installing the ROM the free space is about only 150-160MB. Thanks in advance.
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The phone has 256MB that is divided into partitions. Some goes to the kernel, some goes to hold the system, some goes to cache, some goes to other stuff. The "internal memory" (where apps get installed) is partitioned at 170MB. So, in terms of internal memory, you should think of it as 150MB/170MB not 150MB/256MB.

Mioze7Ae said:
The phone has 256MB that is divided into partitions. Some goes to the kernel, some goes to hold the system, some goes to cache, some goes to other stuff. The "internal memory" (where apps get installed) is partitioned at 170MB. So, in terms of internal memory, you should think of it as 150MB/170MB not 150MB/256MB.
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Ok…..you’re right. But I think that you know the main idea of the conversation. These 150MB are enough to install about a dozen apps.

V_XT720 said:
Ok…..you’re right. But I think that you know the main idea of the conversation. These 150MB are enough to install about a dozen apps.
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if your are using a Dex or Kalh ROM RTFM man, move to ext or gtfo lol

Mioze7Ae said:
The phone has 256MB that is divided into partitions. Some goes to the kernel, some goes to hold the system, some goes to cache, some goes to other stuff. The "internal memory" (where apps get installed) is partitioned at 170MB. So, in terms of internal memory, you should think of it as 150MB/170MB not 150MB/256MB.
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I think it's 512 ROM & 256 RAM & I have over 70 apps installed.

3rdstring said:
I think it's 512 ROM & 256 RAM & I have over 70 apps installed.
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I think you're right. Sorry for any confusion.
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Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/block/mtdblock7 199.6M 194.3M 5.3M 97% /system
/dev/block/mtdblock9 173.1M 52.1M 121.0M 30% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock8 106.0M 62.8M 43.2M 59% /cache
/dev/block/mtdblock6 8.8M 8.5M 300.0K 97% /cdrom
/dev/block/mtdblock0 1.5M 1.3M 180.0K 88% /pds

3rdstring said:
I think it's 512 ROM & 256 RAM & I have over 70 apps installed.
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How can I do this? How can I install so many apps??? Maybe I need to move the data folder to the SD card???

V_XT720 said:
How can I do this? How can I install so many apps??? Maybe I need to move the data folder to the SD card???
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I guess it will depend on the apps & I will look for smaller alternatives, especially if it's something I only use occasionally. (My apps)
I only have one partition on my sdcard & use native froyo apps2sd along with Move2SD Enabler (which enables moving user apps to the sd even if the dev hasn't added that option to his app) to move large / infrequently used apps to the sdcard. I find the limiting factor on my phone to be the RAM (so I will shy away from apps that are constantly running in the background) & the dalvik-cache on the cache partition.

3rdstring said:
I guess it will depend on the apps & I will look for smaller alternatives, especially if it's something I only use occasionally. (My apps)
I only have one partition on my sdcard & use native froyo apps2sd along with Move2SD Enabler (which enables moving user apps to the sd even if the dev hasn't added that option to his app) to move large / infrequently used apps to the sdcard. I find the limiting factor on my phone to be the RAM (so I will shy away from apps that are constantly running in the background) & the dalvik-cache on the cache partition.
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I also have one partition on my SD card (FAT32) and app2sd, but I don't have Move2SD Enabler. I will install it. You have more than 70 apps....so, how many MB's you have on the internal storage?

V_XT720 said:
I also have one partition on my SD card (FAT32) and app2sd, but I don't have Move2SD Enabler. I will install it. You have more than 70 apps....so, how many MB's you have on the internal storage?
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I'm at @44MB free at the moment.

I really don't know what happen with this phone...I installed VPlayer PRO from the market - 10MB. Before installation the internal storage was 127MB and external - 7.05GB. After that - 117MB internal and 7.04.....I checked in app2sd where is installed the app - it was on SD CARD

Mioze7Ae said:
I think you're right. Sorry for any confusion.
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Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/block/mtdblock7 199.6M 194.3M 5.3M 97% /system
/dev/block/mtdblock9 173.1M 52.1M 121.0M 30% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock8 106.0M 62.8M 43.2M 59% /cache
/dev/block/mtdblock6 8.8M 8.5M 300.0K 97% /cdrom
/dev/block/mtdblock0 1.5M 1.3M 180.0K 88% /pds
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Hi, hey Mioze7Ae just a quik quiestion, for what is the system partition? and it's ok if i have just 1 or 2 Mb free in it? I'm experiencing lags this two or thre weeks ago, so i thought maybe can be because i have full the system partition? i have V4 galaxyxt
Thanks a lot

Cesantony said:
Hi, hey Mioze7Ae just a quik quiestion, for what is the system partition? and it's ok if i have just 1 or 2 Mb free in it? I'm experiencing lags this two or thre weeks ago, so i thought maybe can be because i have full the system partition? i have V4 galaxyxt
Thanks a lot
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The system partition is meant to run read-only. Normal use won't even try to write to it. I don't think a nearly full /system is a problem at all. If /system is too full, the only problem I've seen is that metamorph might have trouble applying a theme.
Lags are caused by too little free RAM, which is different. When the phone runs out of memory it has to do garbage collection (that's what causes the pause). You can try Autokiller Memory Optimizer from the market. This app lets you tweak the Android built-in memory management parameters to reduce the number of active background tasks (which when tuned properly results in a larger default pool of free memory and thus garbage collection is not needed as often). I like the "optimal" setting myself but you'll probably have to play with it to match your load.

V_XT720 said:
Hello. I have a Motorola Milestone XT-720 Android Dexter's 2.2.1 Froyo Kahlpower's V4 GalaxyXT ROM. Is it possible to install the ROM on the SD card ? - I mean for the phone to be able to boot ROM from SD card. I’m asking for this, because when I install some app on the sd card it takes up space, but at the same time this app also takes up space on the internal storage. I know that is normal, but the phone has 250MB internal storage and after installing the ROM the free space is about only 150-160MB. Thanks in advance.
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Cant he just make an ext3 partition on his sd card & then make a app folder?
Thats what I did & I have 20 apps installed with 161mb free on the phone.
If I missed something please correct me.

Link2SD Problem

Okay, so I have an HTC Explorer, which I rooted recently (Factory reset BEFORE rooting, so that everything is clean). Installed Link2SD on it with an external FAT32 second partition of 512 MB. Then I proceeded to install all my backed-up apps.
Now, the problem I am having, is that Link2SD would create links to all the existing apps(As well as Auto-Link is turned on) but The apps are still taking up space in Internal memory.
For example, say, I have 50 MB of free space and I install Titanium Backup, which is 5 MB, and then Link2SD will link it automatically, but I will still have 45 MB of space left in the internal memory :-/
Help please? I am using Stock HTC Explorer ROM.

AIndoria said:
Okay, so I have an HTC Explorer, which I rooted recently (Factory reset BEFORE rooting, so that everything is clean). Installed Link2SD on it with an external FAT32 second partition of 512 MB. Then I proceeded to install all my backed-up apps.
Now, the problem I am having, is that Link2SD would create links to all the existing apps(As well as Auto-Link is turned on) but The apps are still taking up space in Internal memory.
For example, say, I have 50 MB of free space and I install Titanium Backup, which is 5 MB, and then Link2SD will link it automatically, but I will still have 45 MB of space left in the internal memory :-/
Help please? I am using Stock HTC Explorer ROM.
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I am also having this problem ... Have just tested with Zombiebooth App ...
The app is 30mb was on the SD card (APP2SD standard), moved back to internal it took up 30mb, and then LINK2SD it over to the EXT4 partiton on my sdcard .. it shows the memory space is still using 26mb internal .. WTF .. why is the app still using 26mb ? surely LINK2SD should move all 30mb over and just create a small link on the internal memory ??
EDIT: Just read FAQ's of LINK2SD ... some internal files of an app are still left behind on internal memory in the \data\data folder ...
Wonder if it is still possible to move/link these remaining files over too ? There must be a reason why they're left behind

you guys should try cronmod D2EXT+, here. It's work like a charm on my Galaxy Ace, before i had 180 Mb n after i used it my internal memory become 2 Gb. try it n you'll be amazed...

Or you can just use int2ext+ now. but thanks for the advice.

8gb internal storage solutions

So I got the Moto G 1gb, 8 gigs of internal storage version.
I love this phone so far and I've pretty much set it up how I'd like it, but the 8gb internal storage has turned into an issue.
I got Appmanager III, moved pretty much everything to my 32 gig external, but I still have only like 600 mb to spare on the internal, with well over half of the external left over.
Is there another app that will allow me to move all the app data left over in the internal over to the external?
If that's not enough, I'd also be interested in knowing if there's any way I can force the system to use the external as the main storage for all the OS functions. I already used adb to set all the default downloads to the external.
Finally, I'd like to know if custom ROMs like cyanogenmod would use up less storage than the stock OS, or at least let me use more of my internal by reducing the amount of bloatware (why can i NOT get rid of google movies or google+??? come ON)
I'm rooted and have installed twrp so both root and custom recovery solutions are welcome. Thanks for your time and help!

If it were me, I'd make a Nandroid with TWRP on the external as well as a backup with Titanium and then use Titanium to delete unwanted bloatware. Wouldn't that help?
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bruce7373 said:
If it were me, I'd make a Nandroid with TWRP on the external as well as a backup with Titanium and then use Titanium to delete unwanted bloatware. Wouldn't that help?
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System apps, ie those that come with the phone such as google movies, live in the system partition. If they are updated then the update lives in the internal storage. Uninstalling via titanium will of course free up both system and internal storage space.
However just disabling them will be sufficient, this will remove all updates from internal storage and just leave the apk in the system partition. Its the internal storage that you want to be less full as this is where user apps, pictures etc all reside (assuming you haven't yet moved them to an SD card).
Disabling is less drastic than uninstalling and is maybe the preferred option in case you otherwise uninstall something that breaks your phone.

I've tried that, but for whatever reason if I disable, say, google play movie or whatever, my phone eventually ends up redownloading them? It's really odd and honestly pretty annoying.
I'd still like to know if there's any way to keep all the main app data on the external or something though. Are Cyanogenmod ROMs installers smaller? I don't need THAT much more space to feel comfortable, having 1 gigabyte would be ok with me. I just don't like having like 600 MB free at most...
EDIT: If I can just move the app data for a few games and Google Chrome, that should fix it, too. Those seem to be the real space hogs, so if I can move those I should be able to handle everything else
EDIT EDIT: Would an app like Link2SD work for this phone or has no one tested that yet?

Hi Tazzypilar, Yes Link2Sd wil work wery well. All wat you have to do is to install MiniTool Partition Wizzard Professional on your PC, then put your micro SD card in the cardreader on your desktop or laptop to make two partitions on your SdMicro card (card must be class 10). Start program MiniTool Partition Wizzard Professional and look for your microSD card on the list with disks. Right click on your removable disk (micro sd card) and you can resize your first Fat32 partition and make it smaller for at least 2 GB. After that you will have 2 GB unused space behind this Fat32 partition. Now click with right mouse on this unused space and choose „Create“ new partition and make it ext4 file system partition. You will be prompt „Are you sure that you want to make ext4 partiton because Windows can't see it ?“ and answare „Yes“ . So, one partition will be Fat32 and you can make it as big as you like depending on the size of your MicroSd card and second should be at least 2GB (or greater - also may be smaller, it's up to you) ext4 partition and there you will move your apps from the internal phone memory.
That's all, after that you have to install Link2Sd from playstore and link apps you like to move to your SdCard. Succes ! If you have more questions jut ask !
Greetz !
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Where did my storage go?
Just asked my self a very similar questions
I attachment a screen shot
From the 8gb 3,5 go to Android system
So 4,5gb for internal I thought., but no.
I installed about 2gb of apps and 200mb cache.
Ah I forgot to mention that this is a fresh install after factory reset and still I am missing alot of storage see screen shot
Is this normal? I am on stock not rooted with some apps already moved to SD Any ideas?

Upgrade to android M, use external SD as internal card
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.

sandipkc7 said:
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
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I am glad you brought this up, guess what I am already on M and using the SD card feature, unfortunately I can only a small portion of the apps move to the SD card the rest stays internal

Look for posts on link2sd, it needs to be a fast card and then formatted using both std FAT and ext (linux) partitions. Then you can move almost everything.
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Though Im using LG H502F. Correct me if Im wrong but I think thats because the internal storage is emulated. Ive been using Link2SD and it works well. I can link app data and external data to the mounted partition. The only difference I noticed was... When opening the app it takes a couple of second or more compared to the unlinked apps... Anyways. Try to check if your storage is emulated. If it is, then that 3GB available space for a stock rom is as good as it gets. Mine have 8GB rom but the end user is only 3GB something.
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merlin2380 said:
I am glad you brought this up, guess what I am already on M and using the SD card feature, unfortunately I can only a small portion of the apps move to the SD card the rest stays internal
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In android M you can "transform" your sd card in internal memory (in Settings>Storage>SdCard>Definitions). If you have a fast 32 Gb card, you can format it to internal and it is as you have 32 Gb internal memory, but your sdcard must "live" with your phone (can't be used as sdcard in other device).
I think that is what @sandipkc7 means.

I did that not very usefull

merlin2380 said:
I did that not very usefull
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Tried internal storage option in marshmallow and at first i taught it was rubbish, but i kinda left sdcard alone and install another ROM.
So stuff on my internal storage was nowhere to be found. I installed latest recovery (TWRP) Flashed another rom and this is where things started to get interesting.
When i first converted sdcard to use as internal storage my phone was still eating up the internal memory 8GB on the phone.
Now however android system decided to do away with internal 8GB memory and use sdcard as a main storage. my photos are stored there and all data i noticed that almost everything is installed on sdcard now. so my storage is not vanishing away. I have about 1.7GB used on there.
There are some apps that can be moved manually to sdcard storage (converted to internal) - for example some of the system apps and most of google apps stay in phones memory not on sdcard and they can't be moved manually.
So my advise is covert your card to internal memory and then do factory reset or install another ROM.
Option 2 as mentioned above in posts is to use app called Link2SD - it is worth to opt for paid version which gives you more options of what to copy to 2nd partiton of your sdcard.
i have amazon fire 7 (£50 tablet) setup with option 2 - same storage 8GB. It works well. due to lack of marshmallow for this device i cannot use internal sd as an option. I have 2GB used there and rest sits on sdcard. i have installed few resource (storage) hugging apps - 1.2 GB, 2 GB each (gameloft games) - all moved to sd with link2sd app.
on my moto g 2015 i use android build in solution and it works well. You have to keep in mind that with this solution you can't simply copy files to your computer. Sdcard is encrypted at device level and it can only be access via your phone. However you can use any wifi file transfer app to copy some files over or via phones hotspot (i use droid over wifi or web pc suite to name few).
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Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
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honestly, its not worth it to use sdcard as internal, despite the micro sd card being fast, it made my phone ridiculously slow..............

marsrolled said:
honestly, its not worth it to use sdcard as internal, despite the micro sd card being fast, it made my phone ridiculously slow..............
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Because of this slow down i did a reset to default settings. This did help and now the phone works much better, just make sure you always have 500MB empty on the internal storage, anything less and tbe phone performance goes down imediatly.
All the talking about this no so vreat sdcardinteral storage feature was too much for my 32 GB samsung evo micro sd card, it died less than 6 months of service. This was already the 2nd from the evo series that hung up on me and let me to dataloss thanks to google drive all was backedup
I will now root the phone and get a custom rom, probaply cm offical

Did you ever find out how to recover that lost 2GB? I have the exact same problem and managed to maybe find the 2GB in the /data folder; however it is sys locked and I'm not ready to root a brand new phone yet.
I have 8 apps installed (not counting google/motorola pre-installed) on my Moto G3 and showing 3.72GB used of 4.53GB available internal. It then shows 1.36 GB used by apps, 1.71 MB by cache. Other 2GB is a mystery?Device storage shows only 16GB used of 37GB availabe due to SD card.