Link2SD Problem - General Topics

Okay, so I have an HTC Explorer, which I rooted recently (Factory reset BEFORE rooting, so that everything is clean). Installed Link2SD on it with an external FAT32 second partition of 512 MB. Then I proceeded to install all my backed-up apps.
Now, the problem I am having, is that Link2SD would create links to all the existing apps(As well as Auto-Link is turned on) but The apps are still taking up space in Internal memory.
For example, say, I have 50 MB of free space and I install Titanium Backup, which is 5 MB, and then Link2SD will link it automatically, but I will still have 45 MB of space left in the internal memory :-/
Help please? I am using Stock HTC Explorer ROM.

AIndoria said:
Okay, so I have an HTC Explorer, which I rooted recently (Factory reset BEFORE rooting, so that everything is clean). Installed Link2SD on it with an external FAT32 second partition of 512 MB. Then I proceeded to install all my backed-up apps.
Now, the problem I am having, is that Link2SD would create links to all the existing apps(As well as Auto-Link is turned on) but The apps are still taking up space in Internal memory.
For example, say, I have 50 MB of free space and I install Titanium Backup, which is 5 MB, and then Link2SD will link it automatically, but I will still have 45 MB of space left in the internal memory :-/
Help please? I am using Stock HTC Explorer ROM.
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I am also having this problem ... Have just tested with Zombiebooth App ...
The app is 30mb was on the SD card (APP2SD standard), moved back to internal it took up 30mb, and then LINK2SD it over to the EXT4 partiton on my sdcard .. it shows the memory space is still using 26mb internal .. WTF .. why is the app still using 26mb ? surely LINK2SD should move all 30mb over and just create a small link on the internal memory ??
EDIT: Just read FAQ's of LINK2SD ... some internal files of an app are still left behind on internal memory in the \data\data folder ...
Wonder if it is still possible to move/link these remaining files over too ? There must be a reason why they're left behind

you guys should try cronmod D2EXT+, here. It's work like a charm on my Galaxy Ace, before i had 180 Mb n after i used it my internal memory become 2 Gb. try it n you'll be amazed...

Or you can just use int2ext+ now. but thanks for the advice.

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[Q]Apps2SD - very strange occurence

I used the root.bat method to enable Apps2SD on my LG Optimus GT540 - Eclair, today. I've installed atleast 80 apps yet, n leaving few aside, most of the apps are installing on the SD card.
But, now when I plugged in my SD card thru a card reader to check how much of the Ext2 partition is filled with app installation, I found that only 16mb of the 512mb partition is filled !!!
The phone isnt storing apps on the internal storage, as earlier, it had 98mb internal memory n now 75mb coz some of the apps automatically installed on the internal memory. Where the hell is it installing the apps then?
What the hell is going on?
niraj87 said:
I used the root.bat method to enable Apps2SD on my LG Optimus GT540 - Eclair, today. I've installed atleast 80 apps yet, n leaving few aside, most of the apps are installing on the SD card.
But, now when I plugged in my SD card thru a card reader to check how much of the Ext2 partition is filled with app installation, I found that only 16mb of the 512mb partition is filled !!!
The phone isnt storing apps on the internal storage, as earlier, it had 98mb internal memory n now 75mb coz some of the apps automatically installed on the internal memory. Where the hell is it installing the apps then?
What the hell is going on?
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I kind of have an idea of what's happening here but I don't know how to explain but I'll try. In froyo, when you move the apps to sd card, the size of the app "reduces". That is, if it takes about 5 MB in internal storage, it'll take only some KBs in the memory card, the app is saved in the memory card but it takes a lot less space. I don't know why but this is the case on froyo. I hope I've helped you in someway!
^^Your clarification did help, but now I've installed arnd 150 apps n many of them are large games of 6-10mb, but still the Ext2 is filled only 16mb !!! Its not like its being compressed in Froyo, like u explained, but its something much stranger, coz even if it takes memory in kbs on the SD card in Froyo, its not taking ANY space in my case.
If we assume that the Partition tool that I used on PC isnt reading the installed Ext2 for some reason, then it should have either displayed that the Ext2 parition is EMPTY or the actual size of 150 apps installed, but why only 16mb still?
And another query is y does it install some apps on the internal memory?
niraj87 said:
^^Your clarification did help, but now I've installed arnd 150 apps n many of them are large games of 6-10mb, but still the Ext2 is filled only 16mb !!! Its not like its being compressed in Froyo, like u explained, but its something much stranger, coz even if it takes memory in kbs on the SD card in Froyo, its not taking ANY space in my case.
If we assume that the Partition tool that I used on PC isnt reading the installed Ext2 for some reason, then it should have either displayed that the Ext2 parition is EMPTY or the actual size of 150 apps installed, but why only 16mb still?
And another query is y does it install some apps on the internal memory?
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Check the standard SD partition free space, because maybe the apps are not being moved to ext2 but to normal sd partition.
niraj87 said:
I used the root.bat method to enable Apps2SD on my LG Optimus GT540 - Eclair, today. I've installed atleast 80 apps yet, n leaving few aside, most of the apps are installing on the SD card.
But, now when I plugged in my SD card thru a card reader to check how much of the Ext2 partition is filled with app installation, I found that only 16mb of the 512mb partition is filled !!!
The phone isnt storing apps on the internal storage, as earlier, it had 98mb internal memory n now 75mb coz some of the apps automatically installed on the internal memory. Where the hell is it installing the apps then?
What the hell is going on?
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the same thing happened to me!
^^The above has been solved now.
I thnk the reason for that is all apps cannot be installed on the SD card (even after this method of Apps2SD), due to app permissions or something else I'm not aware of.
I used the app AndRootFile to check out where the apps are being installed. They're installed at System/sdcard/app. This app clearly states the size of the parition created n how much of it is used currently, at the top, in my case 512mb ext2 parition.

[Q] How to install ROM on the SD card ?

Hello. I have a Motorola Milestone XT-720 Android Dexter's 2.2.1 Froyo Kahlpower's V4 GalaxyXT ROM. Is it possible to install the ROM on the SD card ? - I mean for the phone to be able to boot ROM from SD card. I’m asking for this, because when I install some app on the sd card it takes up space, but at the same time this app also takes up space on the internal storage. I know that is normal, but the phone has 250MB internal storage and after installing the ROM the free space is about only 150-160MB. Thanks in advance.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. The ROM must be located on the phone.
OK....I have 4-5 apps installed and 110MB free space internal storage. So, I have enough space for may be 5-6 more apps and what will happen after that?... Then I will use my phone only to view photos or may be like a mp3-player?
V_XT720 said:
OK....I have 4-5 apps installed and 110MB free space internal storage. So, I have enough space for may be 5-6 more apps and what will happen after that?... Then I will use my phone only to view photos or may be like a mp3-player?
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I don't have a single app that is over 5 mb in size. I do believe that you are mistaken on how big apps really are. Most apps are well under 1 mb.
So you have GalaxyXT V4 and the SD has one Partition?
Than have a look at the Market and search for "Move2Sd Enabler" from Roberto Leinardi......Install it...open it.....chose the "Extern" entry and press OK/Save or what ever......after that you can go to your apps under Settings....there you will find an entry "Move to SD" or something like that......you can move every App you installed....but you should not move any System apps....
reverendkjr said:
I don't have a single app that is over 5 mb in size. I do believe that you are mistaken on how big apps really are. Most apps are well under 1 mb.
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Let me give you an examples:
1- IGO - around 9MB data storage (in newest version was more);
2- Skype - almоst 5MB
And 2-3 more apps which can not be moved to the SD card....and you know the result..... May be I'm wrong, but after every single app installed on the phone the internal storage dramatically reduced. I really don't know what to do
Enricosteph said:
So you have GalaxyXT V4 and the SD has one Partition?
Than have a look at the Market and search for "Move2Sd Enabler" from Roberto Leinardi......Install it...open it.....chose the "Extern" entry and press OK/Save or what ever......after that you can go to your apps under Settings....there you will find an entry "Move to SD" or something like that......you can move every App you installed....but you should not move any System apps....
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Yes, I know how to move my apps to the SD card (I have app2sd). But also used storage on SD card there is “ Data storage” and this is used internal storage. I know that is normal the app to save settings, accounts and so on to internal storage, but I think that these ”Data storage” files are too big.
V_XT720 said:
Hello. I have a Motorola Milestone XT-720 Android Dexter's 2.2.1 Froyo Kahlpower's V4 GalaxyXT ROM. Is it possible to install the ROM on the SD card ? - I mean for the phone to be able to boot ROM from SD card. I’m asking for this, because when I install some app on the sd card it takes up space, but at the same time this app also takes up space on the internal storage. I know that is normal, but the phone has 250MB internal storage and after installing the ROM the free space is about only 150-160MB. Thanks in advance.
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The phone has 256MB that is divided into partitions. Some goes to the kernel, some goes to hold the system, some goes to cache, some goes to other stuff. The "internal memory" (where apps get installed) is partitioned at 170MB. So, in terms of internal memory, you should think of it as 150MB/170MB not 150MB/256MB.
Mioze7Ae said:
The phone has 256MB that is divided into partitions. Some goes to the kernel, some goes to hold the system, some goes to cache, some goes to other stuff. The "internal memory" (where apps get installed) is partitioned at 170MB. So, in terms of internal memory, you should think of it as 150MB/170MB not 150MB/256MB.
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Ok…..you’re right. But I think that you know the main idea of the conversation. These 150MB are enough to install about a dozen apps.
V_XT720 said:
Ok…..you’re right. But I think that you know the main idea of the conversation. These 150MB are enough to install about a dozen apps.
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if your are using a Dex or Kalh ROM RTFM man, move to ext or gtfo lol
Mioze7Ae said:
The phone has 256MB that is divided into partitions. Some goes to the kernel, some goes to hold the system, some goes to cache, some goes to other stuff. The "internal memory" (where apps get installed) is partitioned at 170MB. So, in terms of internal memory, you should think of it as 150MB/170MB not 150MB/256MB.
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I think it's 512 ROM & 256 RAM & I have over 70 apps installed.
3rdstring said:
I think it's 512 ROM & 256 RAM & I have over 70 apps installed.
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I think you're right. Sorry for any confusion.
Code:
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/block/mtdblock7 199.6M 194.3M 5.3M 97% /system
/dev/block/mtdblock9 173.1M 52.1M 121.0M 30% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock8 106.0M 62.8M 43.2M 59% /cache
/dev/block/mtdblock6 8.8M 8.5M 300.0K 97% /cdrom
/dev/block/mtdblock0 1.5M 1.3M 180.0K 88% /pds
3rdstring said:
I think it's 512 ROM & 256 RAM & I have over 70 apps installed.
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How can I do this? How can I install so many apps??? Maybe I need to move the data folder to the SD card???
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How can I do this? How can I install so many apps??? Maybe I need to move the data folder to the SD card???
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I guess it will depend on the apps & I will look for smaller alternatives, especially if it's something I only use occasionally. (My apps)
I only have one partition on my sdcard & use native froyo apps2sd along with Move2SD Enabler (which enables moving user apps to the sd even if the dev hasn't added that option to his app) to move large / infrequently used apps to the sdcard. I find the limiting factor on my phone to be the RAM (so I will shy away from apps that are constantly running in the background) & the dalvik-cache on the cache partition.
3rdstring said:
I guess it will depend on the apps & I will look for smaller alternatives, especially if it's something I only use occasionally. (My apps)
I only have one partition on my sdcard & use native froyo apps2sd along with Move2SD Enabler (which enables moving user apps to the sd even if the dev hasn't added that option to his app) to move large / infrequently used apps to the sdcard. I find the limiting factor on my phone to be the RAM (so I will shy away from apps that are constantly running in the background) & the dalvik-cache on the cache partition.
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I also have one partition on my SD card (FAT32) and app2sd, but I don't have Move2SD Enabler. I will install it. You have more than 70 apps....so, how many MB's you have on the internal storage?
V_XT720 said:
I also have one partition on my SD card (FAT32) and app2sd, but I don't have Move2SD Enabler. I will install it. You have more than 70 apps....so, how many MB's you have on the internal storage?
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I'm at @44MB free at the moment.
I really don't know what happen with this phone...I installed VPlayer PRO from the market - 10MB. Before installation the internal storage was 127MB and external - 7.05GB. After that - 117MB internal and 7.04.....I checked in app2sd where is installed the app - it was on SD CARD
Mioze7Ae said:
I think you're right. Sorry for any confusion.
Code:
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/block/mtdblock7 199.6M 194.3M 5.3M 97% /system
/dev/block/mtdblock9 173.1M 52.1M 121.0M 30% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock8 106.0M 62.8M 43.2M 59% /cache
/dev/block/mtdblock6 8.8M 8.5M 300.0K 97% /cdrom
/dev/block/mtdblock0 1.5M 1.3M 180.0K 88% /pds
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Hi, hey Mioze7Ae just a quik quiestion, for what is the system partition? and it's ok if i have just 1 or 2 Mb free in it? I'm experiencing lags this two or thre weeks ago, so i thought maybe can be because i have full the system partition? i have V4 galaxyxt
Thanks a lot
Cesantony said:
Hi, hey Mioze7Ae just a quik quiestion, for what is the system partition? and it's ok if i have just 1 or 2 Mb free in it? I'm experiencing lags this two or thre weeks ago, so i thought maybe can be because i have full the system partition? i have V4 galaxyxt
Thanks a lot
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The system partition is meant to run read-only. Normal use won't even try to write to it. I don't think a nearly full /system is a problem at all. If /system is too full, the only problem I've seen is that metamorph might have trouble applying a theme.
Lags are caused by too little free RAM, which is different. When the phone runs out of memory it has to do garbage collection (that's what causes the pause). You can try Autokiller Memory Optimizer from the market. This app lets you tweak the Android built-in memory management parameters to reduce the number of active background tasks (which when tuned properly results in a larger default pool of free memory and thus garbage collection is not needed as often). I like the "optimal" setting myself but you'll probably have to play with it to match your load.
V_XT720 said:
Hello. I have a Motorola Milestone XT-720 Android Dexter's 2.2.1 Froyo Kahlpower's V4 GalaxyXT ROM. Is it possible to install the ROM on the SD card ? - I mean for the phone to be able to boot ROM from SD card. I’m asking for this, because when I install some app on the sd card it takes up space, but at the same time this app also takes up space on the internal storage. I know that is normal, but the phone has 250MB internal storage and after installing the ROM the free space is about only 150-160MB. Thanks in advance.
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Cant he just make an ext3 partition on his sd card & then make a app folder?
Thats what I did & I have 20 apps installed with 161mb free on the phone.
If I missed something please correct me.

Memory full problem

I have created a sd card partition and using link2sd, then also i am getting the memory full error..i have 156 applications in all out of which 75 are system and 81 are user apps...i have linked almost all of the user apps....my current rom is "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1697912"
I have also attached the screenshots of storage info from link2sd...how to resolve the memory full erorr?? and please dont say to uninstall apps...
Any help please..thanks in advance..
dont blame on ur phone..d memory is very low man!!!!
i also have this problem..after upgrading my sd card to 16 gb my problem got solved....
If you are the kind that prefers empty internal memory, then use other scripts/mods...like amarullz script or s2e...
(Don't ask for link/tuto, search around, you'll find it)
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move app data cache to sdcard do not leave a single thing
create a partition of around 2 gb

[Q] Apps installation denied

Hi everyone.
I have Link2SD installed and i have improved my memory space for data in ext2 partition.
Now I have 350mb available in my internal memory (/data) and 500 mb in system memory (/data/ext2).
The issue is that I can not install some apps, but others yes, even if they have much larger dimensions (e.g Google Apps).
I have change the path installation by Link2sd from internal to external, deactivated the same app (in conjuction with the Plus version) and reactivated but nothing good...
I have ViperSV 1.6.0 on board, and this is a restored version from backup. Earlier with the same rom, this apps were regularly installed on my sd card (moved not linked), but now, after I have restored my rom, I can not do the same thing.
In the meantime, however, other 14 apps are reguarly moved to the sd card and 51 are linked...
Please help me...

8gb internal storage solutions

So I got the Moto G 1gb, 8 gigs of internal storage version.
I love this phone so far and I've pretty much set it up how I'd like it, but the 8gb internal storage has turned into an issue.
I got Appmanager III, moved pretty much everything to my 32 gig external, but I still have only like 600 mb to spare on the internal, with well over half of the external left over.
Is there another app that will allow me to move all the app data left over in the internal over to the external?
If that's not enough, I'd also be interested in knowing if there's any way I can force the system to use the external as the main storage for all the OS functions. I already used adb to set all the default downloads to the external.
Finally, I'd like to know if custom ROMs like cyanogenmod would use up less storage than the stock OS, or at least let me use more of my internal by reducing the amount of bloatware (why can i NOT get rid of google movies or google+??? come ON)
I'm rooted and have installed twrp so both root and custom recovery solutions are welcome. Thanks for your time and help!
If it were me, I'd make a Nandroid with TWRP on the external as well as a backup with Titanium and then use Titanium to delete unwanted bloatware. Wouldn't that help?
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If it were me, I'd make a Nandroid with TWRP on the external as well as a backup with Titanium and then use Titanium to delete unwanted bloatware. Wouldn't that help?
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System apps, ie those that come with the phone such as google movies, live in the system partition. If they are updated then the update lives in the internal storage. Uninstalling via titanium will of course free up both system and internal storage space.
However just disabling them will be sufficient, this will remove all updates from internal storage and just leave the apk in the system partition. Its the internal storage that you want to be less full as this is where user apps, pictures etc all reside (assuming you haven't yet moved them to an SD card).
Disabling is less drastic than uninstalling and is maybe the preferred option in case you otherwise uninstall something that breaks your phone.
I've tried that, but for whatever reason if I disable, say, google play movie or whatever, my phone eventually ends up redownloading them? It's really odd and honestly pretty annoying.
I'd still like to know if there's any way to keep all the main app data on the external or something though. Are Cyanogenmod ROMs installers smaller? I don't need THAT much more space to feel comfortable, having 1 gigabyte would be ok with me. I just don't like having like 600 MB free at most...
EDIT: If I can just move the app data for a few games and Google Chrome, that should fix it, too. Those seem to be the real space hogs, so if I can move those I should be able to handle everything else
EDIT EDIT: Would an app like Link2SD work for this phone or has no one tested that yet?
Hi Tazzypilar, Yes Link2Sd wil work wery well. All wat you have to do is to install MiniTool Partition Wizzard Professional on your PC, then put your micro SD card in the cardreader on your desktop or laptop to make two partitions on your SdMicro card (card must be class 10). Start program MiniTool Partition Wizzard Professional and look for your microSD card on the list with disks. Right click on your removable disk (micro sd card) and you can resize your first Fat32 partition and make it smaller for at least 2 GB. After that you will have 2 GB unused space behind this Fat32 partition. Now click with right mouse on this unused space and choose „Create“ new partition and make it ext4 file system partition. You will be prompt „Are you sure that you want to make ext4 partiton because Windows can't see it ?“ and answare „Yes“ . So, one partition will be Fat32 and you can make it as big as you like depending on the size of your MicroSd card and second should be at least 2GB (or greater - also may be smaller, it's up to you) ext4 partition and there you will move your apps from the internal phone memory.
That's all, after that you have to install Link2Sd from playstore and link apps you like to move to your SdCard. Succes ! If you have more questions jut ask !
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Where did my storage go?
Just asked my self a very similar questions
I attachment a screen shot
From the 8gb 3,5 go to Android system
So 4,5gb for internal I thought., but no.
I installed about 2gb of apps and 200mb cache.
Ah I forgot to mention that this is a fresh install after factory reset and still I am missing alot of storage see screen shot
Is this normal? I am on stock not rooted with some apps already moved to SD Any ideas?
Upgrade to android M, use external SD as internal card
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
sandipkc7 said:
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
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I am glad you brought this up, guess what I am already on M and using the SD card feature, unfortunately I can only a small portion of the apps move to the SD card the rest stays internal
Look for posts on link2sd, it needs to be a fast card and then formatted using both std FAT and ext (linux) partitions. Then you can move almost everything.
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Though Im using LG H502F. Correct me if Im wrong but I think thats because the internal storage is emulated. Ive been using Link2SD and it works well. I can link app data and external data to the mounted partition. The only difference I noticed was... When opening the app it takes a couple of second or more compared to the unlinked apps... Anyways. Try to check if your storage is emulated. If it is, then that 3GB available space for a stock rom is as good as it gets. Mine have 8GB rom but the end user is only 3GB something.
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merlin2380 said:
I am glad you brought this up, guess what I am already on M and using the SD card feature, unfortunately I can only a small portion of the apps move to the SD card the rest stays internal
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In android M you can "transform" your sd card in internal memory (in Settings>Storage>SdCard>Definitions). If you have a fast 32 Gb card, you can format it to internal and it is as you have 32 Gb internal memory, but your sdcard must "live" with your phone (can't be used as sdcard in other device).
I think that is what @sandipkc7 means.
I did that not very usefull
merlin2380 said:
I did that not very usefull
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Tried internal storage option in marshmallow and at first i taught it was rubbish, but i kinda left sdcard alone and install another ROM.
So stuff on my internal storage was nowhere to be found. I installed latest recovery (TWRP) Flashed another rom and this is where things started to get interesting.
When i first converted sdcard to use as internal storage my phone was still eating up the internal memory 8GB on the phone.
Now however android system decided to do away with internal 8GB memory and use sdcard as a main storage. my photos are stored there and all data i noticed that almost everything is installed on sdcard now. so my storage is not vanishing away. I have about 1.7GB used on there.
There are some apps that can be moved manually to sdcard storage (converted to internal) - for example some of the system apps and most of google apps stay in phones memory not on sdcard and they can't be moved manually.
So my advise is covert your card to internal memory and then do factory reset or install another ROM.
Option 2 as mentioned above in posts is to use app called Link2SD - it is worth to opt for paid version which gives you more options of what to copy to 2nd partiton of your sdcard.
i have amazon fire 7 (£50 tablet) setup with option 2 - same storage 8GB. It works well. due to lack of marshmallow for this device i cannot use internal sd as an option. I have 2GB used there and rest sits on sdcard. i have installed few resource (storage) hugging apps - 1.2 GB, 2 GB each (gameloft games) - all moved to sd with link2sd app.
on my moto g 2015 i use android build in solution and it works well. You have to keep in mind that with this solution you can't simply copy files to your computer. Sdcard is encrypted at device level and it can only be access via your phone. However you can use any wifi file transfer app to copy some files over or via phones hotspot (i use droid over wifi or web pc suite to name few).
hope this helped a little
sandipkc7 said:
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
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honestly, its not worth it to use sdcard as internal, despite the micro sd card being fast, it made my phone ridiculously slow..............
marsrolled said:
honestly, its not worth it to use sdcard as internal, despite the micro sd card being fast, it made my phone ridiculously slow..............
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Because of this slow down i did a reset to default settings. This did help and now the phone works much better, just make sure you always have 500MB empty on the internal storage, anything less and tbe phone performance goes down imediatly.
All the talking about this no so vreat sdcardinteral storage feature was too much for my 32 GB samsung evo micro sd card, it died less than 6 months of service. This was already the 2nd from the evo series that hung up on me and let me to dataloss thanks to google drive all was backedup
I will now root the phone and get a custom rom, probaply cm offical
Did you ever find out how to recover that lost 2GB? I have the exact same problem and managed to maybe find the 2GB in the /data folder; however it is sys locked and I'm not ready to root a brand new phone yet.
I have 8 apps installed (not counting google/motorola pre-installed) on my Moto G3 and showing 3.72GB used of 4.53GB available internal. It then shows 1.36 GB used by apps, 1.71 MB by cache. Other 2GB is a mystery?Device storage shows only 16GB used of 37GB availabe due to SD card.

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