S-Pen on AOSP - Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can someone give me input on how the S-Pen is on any roms outside of touchwiz? I'm really tired of the dated 4.1.2, but need S-Pen for classes. I don't use s-note, but just need the digitizer to be accurate. Mainly interested in 4.3. I've run 4.4 on my S3 and it's still a bit buggy and I need my note to be stable.
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My understanding is that the s-pen works fine, including the palm rejection when the pen gets close to the screen, and afaik even apps that use the spen, like sketchbook and whatnot. You wont be able to take a screenshot by holding the spen button and holding the pen to the screen or anything like that but the pen should work just fine on AOSP. You also wont have the samsung apps that play nice with the pen but you prpbably already knew that.
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S Note continuously crashing...

I did not see another topic on this yet. Is anyone else losing their unsaved notes due to S Note crashing? It seems to happen most when I am switching between the three different functions.
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yes, crashing for me too
I am also seeing lots of crashes with S-Note. It happens frequently when I change from the text recognition tool to the pen tool and back. Have lost 1 hour of notes multiple times.
I was trying to get more proficient with S-Note last night and noticed this as well. In trying to do some copy and paste in split screen i kept crashing the app. Did a full shut down last night and thought i would try again today. Had not shut down my GN for over a week and thought that might have had somerhing to do with it.
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I have never understood the appeal of the handwiring recognition.
It seems to me you can just type faster and more accurately. If your handwriting is good enough for the recognition software to work flawlessly why not just write?
For me it is a gimmick.
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mitchellvii said:
I have never understood the appeal of the handwiring recognition.
It seems to me you can just type faster and more accurately. If your handwriting is good enough for the recognition software to work flawlessly why not just write?
For me it is a gimmick.
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I have big hands. I can only type fast on full-size keyboards.The pen actually woks better than a keyboard for me. Also, I got used to a Microsoft natural keyboard. Mobile and laptop keyboards are not easy for me.
had similer problems you could try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842226

Can you disable pen detection?

I just purchased the larger stylus holder that was intended for the 5.3 Note. I tried to use it, but it would not work without first removing the original stylus from the unit. I would like to use the new one and keep my original in the unit in case of emergency.
Anyone able to do this?
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AndroidAble said:
I just purchased the larger stylus holder that was intended for the 5.3 Note. I tried to use it, but it would not work without first removing the original stylus from the unit. I would like to use the new one and keep my original in the unit in case of emergency.
Anyone able to do this?
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Go into settings and find the settings for the pen and uncheck the power saving setting for the pen.
OK, i tried to check that option, still the tab still detects when i remove the pen, is this option really working? I'm on build N8000XWALG7, is this a good build? How do i know which country firmware to upgrade? I am from philippines. My baseband is N8000XXLGA
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I found it and it works. I can use my new sylus with the original still tucked inside. BTW... I really like the stylus holder with the 5.3 stylus much better than the origanal. Handwriting is much better. I am not getting all the extra squiggles on my letters.
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AndroidAble said:
I found it and it works. I can use my new sylus with the original still tucked inside. BTW... I really like the stylus holder with the 5.3 stylus much better than the origanal. Handwriting is much better. I am not getting all the extra squiggles on my letters.
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Good for you, but mine is not working even if i check battery saving, still detects my pen, so i cant use other pen if my pen is dock, any help here? Firmware prob? I got 2 note N8000 and both are not working
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fatbuccha said:
OK, i tried to check that option, still the tab still detects when i remove the pen, is this option really working? I'm on build N8000XWALG7, is this a good build? How do i know which country firmware to upgrade? I am from philippines. My baseband is N8000XXLGA
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I think it will always detect if the pen is removed or not irregardless of that option being checked or not. But by turning off the battery saving feature you are able to use another pen while the original 10.1 pen stays docked.
Hmmm wierd coz i tried using my other note's stylus and its not working, or do i have to buy another stylus? Both devices doesn't work when pen is dock
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As soon as I went to settings and removed the check from battery saving, my second pen began to work while the original was in the dock. At least I think that as what I did to get it to work.
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As soon as I went to settings and removed the check from battery saving, my second pen began to work while the original was in the dock. At least I think that as what I did to get it to work.
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So the setting should be uncheck not check? Im sure i tried all the combinations but will try again later, thanks
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S Note

Hello, why is it when using the shape feature on S note it works fine... until I undo something then whenever I try to do a new shape it gets rid of the other shapes I've drawn and so on which is really annoying, is this something I'm doing or is it a bug?
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Hello, why is it when using the shape feature on S note it works fine... until I undo something then whenever I try to do a new shape it gets rid of the other shapes I've drawn and so on which is really annoying, is this something I'm doing or is it a bug?
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I've noticed the same thing happening. I found that you can get around this if you will save the note you are working on immediately after completing the undo function. Then you can continue drawing new shapes without erasing the other shapes you want to keep.
So just a bug then? That's annoying..
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I have the same problem as well, and the most annoying thing is that the previous ICS version of SNote worked like a charm!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2081866
I started a thread about it a couple of weeks ago, we haven't come up with a solution yet however I hope that it's not too far away. Please contact Samsung, the more of us that do this the more likely they are to realize there is a big problem with SNote and make an update (or in this case maybe a downgrade). I've made a video that illustrates my problems and posted it in the thread mentioned, feel free to use it in contact with Samsung.
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Very annoying I will definitely be getting in contact with them! Do you also have a bug with the music play, it wont go to the next song it will just stop and you have to start it manually again, also when I have it playing through my Xbox it will stop and the tablet and Xbox will display different songs?
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Very annoying I will definitely be getting in contact with them! Do you also have a bug with the music play, it wont go to the next song it will just stop and you have to start it manually again, also when I have it playing through my Xbox it will stop and the tablet and Xbox will display different songs?
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Actually I haven't used the tablet for music yet and I'm not sure I will. However what you describe sounds more like you have some setting wrong, try press the button at the right hand side of the play/next track etc (it might say something with A). Or simply get a better music app I would love to do so with SNote, but there really is no good option with the math and shape functionality. LectureNotes is so much better in so many ways, but having the ability to use Snote for some task sure would be great sometimes!
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No its not that I've got it to repeat the playlist if it ends, I love the music app (well when it works) it was perfect before the update, hopefully Samsung get on making a bug fix update for all the little problems! I've not tried lecture notes, I will try it out
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I have had the same problem with snote I will use you video and send to Samsung I have already send them a msg but with you video I hope this will be fixed soon.
I use snote for collage and the fact the drawing cant be used is a big problem.
The music and video app I have no problem with n both advance to the next track.
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calum96 said:
No its not that I've got it to repeat the playlist if it ends, I love the music app (well when it works) it was perfect before the update, hopefully Samsung get on making a bug fix update for all the little problems! I've not tried lecture notes, I will try it out
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I see, I hope they get that as we sorted out for you!
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I have had the same problem with snote I will use you video and send to Samsung I have already send them a msg but with you video I hope this will be fixed soon.
I use snote for collage and the fact the drawing cant be used is a big problem.
The music and video app I have no problem with n both advance to the next track.
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I'm glad to hear that!
Have you tried LectureNotes? I was a little skeptical when I first tried it, I was just comparing it with SNote and that functionality. But actually, after using it for quite a while and testing and configurating the app I prefer it so much over SNote for lecture notes. LectureNotes is best for taking lecture notes, who would have guessed that? Sure it's lacking those cool shape features the SNote has but actually I think the simple MS Paint style that LectureNotes is using is much more accurate when actually using it and not just testing it. And just such a simple feature that you take for granted, to move the text and stuff after inserting them is something LectureNotes has and SNote simply doesn't.
But the really great thing is that you don't really have to choose between them. You can use LectureNotes for everything but the shape and math stuff (when it gets to writing equations, SNote is in a class of its own) where you use SNote and then Lasso around the item with pen button down after which you press the LectureNotes icon. The screenshot (or whatever it is) is then transfered straight to the desired page in LectureNotes!
Hope this helped some people that think that the new SNote stinks and are looking for alternative until Samsung got this sorted out
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Connecting a phone with the Note 10.1 in order to use the phone's keyboard?

Okay so bear with me here. I'm trying to figure out a way to connect my Samsung SGH-I927 (Captivate Glide) to the Note 10.1 so I can use the physical keyboard to type with on the tablet. Is this possible in any way so I can use the tablet as a monitor and my phone as a keyboard?
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No you cannot do that as to recognize the phone drivers will be required which is not possible
Why dont you just buy a usb keyboard in that case a cheaper option or a bluetooth one
Oh okay, I was just wondering if it was possible. I wanted to find another way for people to type on the tablet without having to buy a new device. Thanks for the answer though.
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There are apps to remotely control other Android devices, isn't it possible that such a solution will work? Since you can control the controlled device both with the actual device and with the device acting as a remote control, you should be able to use your tablet for everything and then just use your phone to write. I've not tried this though, if anything I would like to use my tablet keyboard to my SGS3 but since I can send sms using my tablet there's really no point to be honest.
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You understand what I'm trying to achieve here right? It would be nice to be able to type on the tablet without having the virtual keyboard come up on the screen, using your phone as the keyboard for your tablet. (I'm assuming it's easier for most people to type faster on the phone rather than tablet). I'm not talking just sms, more as overall typing in every app, if possible.
Again, this is just a question which I'm hoping that we can find an alternative to using a bluetooth keyboard. It would be helpful for anyone who doesn't want to lug around more accessories for their tablet.
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You understand what I'm trying to achieve here right? It would be nice to be able to type on the tablet without having the virtual keyboard come up on the screen, using your phone as the keyboard for your tablet. (I'm assuming it's easier for most people to type faster on the phone rather than tablet). I'm not talking just sms, more as overall typing in every app, if possible.
Again, this is just a question which I'm hoping that we can find an alternative to using a bluetooth keyboard. It would be helpful for anyone who doesn't want to lug around more accessories for their tablet.
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I think so! I'm sorry if I confused you with the talk about sms, that's just a sidetrack why I don't think many have this kind of suggestion.
However, my solution for you would be this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tournesol.tabletremote something like this, an app that allows you to remotely control another Android device including typing words (at least that's what the description tells). So, you use your tablet like you use to do and when you click on something where you wish to write you minimize the software keyboard on the tablet and use the phone instead.
I've not tried the app though, but there's a couple of different apps that do almost the same but in different ways and hopefully someone will do the trick.
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No, it's okay, i just didn't want to be limited to sms .
I was looking at apps last night but it was late and didn't feel like running tests on different applications. I looked at that yesterday, I'm going to try it out later today. (still in bed at the moment since it's only 6:47 am). I also saw this app, and the interface seems basic. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...m=organic&utm_term=android+mouse+and+keyboard I feel like this could work also. The remote desktop by Kolakowski Damian doesn't let you control the tablet in the manner that you want to.
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doode2011 said:
No, it's okay, i just didn't want to be limited to sms .
I was looking at apps last night but it was late and didn't feel like running tests on different applications. I looked at that yesterday, I'm going to try it out later today. (still in bed at the moment since it's only 6:47 am). I also saw this app, and the interface seems basic. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...m=organic&utm_term=android+mouse+and+keyboard I feel like this could work also. The remote desktop by Kolakowski Damian doesn't let you control the tablet in the manner that you want to.
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Well, there's a chance that you have to test a couple of different apps before you find someone that does what you want it to do and more importantly, in the way you want it to. But I can't see why you shouldn't be able to do it, I have the Unified Remote app to control my PC with my phone and typing works great even though I don't get any auto correction. After all, it's a quite simple feature and shouldn't involve too much data transfers that can cause lag if implemented correctly.
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Tablet remote definitely works, but there's one major problem to it when you use the physical keyboard on the glide. If I wanted to enter special characters (colon, semicolon, apostrophes) it would not register on the tablet and only certain keys would hit. It works for the regular virtual keyboard on the phone.
If you want an alternative, smaller keyboard for easier typing, try out tablet remote. I'm sure there are more apps which I will look into and post on here.
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doode2011 said:
Tablet remote definitely works, but there's one major problem to it when you use the physical keyboard on the glide. If I wanted to enter special characters (colon, semicolon, apostrophes) it would not register on the tablet and only certain keys would hit. It works for the regular virtual keyboard on the phone.
If you want an alternative, smaller keyboard for easier typing, try out tablet remote. I'm sure there are more apps which I will look into and post on here.
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I'm basically just guessing here, but I think that might be because you are not using the same ASCII codes on your OS as your app. In my opinion that shouldn't be a problem since it should just send the codes to the other device, but if it's converting it to text before sending it over there might be a problem. After all, the most common use for this app I suppose is typing in an URL or maybe search for a song, at least that's that I'm doing when remotely control another device.
If there's not any settings where to specify regions in the app, hopefully there's an app that supports US (?) keyboards.
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An2An Keyboard
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.locnet.an2an
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getting away from touch wiz, near stock experience

Hi Guys here is a quick video showing Next launcher on the Note 3. Although I have no problems with TW, but its an option to those who dislike it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgfqf0VeQB0
Don't you lose a lot of the S-Pen functionality without TouchWiz?
I only see that is missing the left app slide manager but I see that even if you run the TW isn't there also so you had disable it?
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No you don't loose spen functions using a launcher
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Just to be clear you dont lose S-Pen but some navigation tricks are lost. Like swiping up for "magazine"
However the replacement launchers often have much more features that include gestures.
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No you don't loose spen functions using a launcher
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You do lose air command though, and multi window, don't you?
Those are specific to TW.
The only thing you keep with S Pen is the actual writing ability and pressure sensitivity, isn't that right?
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No air command and air gesture both work on launchers
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The power of the comma. Or lack of it...
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M8 I asked again but you loose multi window manager? I don't see it in the video
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I believe that multi window will still work ...... Had it on a touchwiz 4.1.2 ROM on my s2 with Nova........
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