Phone dies and will not power on until connected to a charger - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have had this odd problem two days in a row and suspect that I have narrowed it down. My phone has died twice with a sufficiently charged battery. When it dies, it is completely dead until connected to a charger. In fact, the first time, the charging indicator didn't come on for awhile after connecting it to the charger. I was sure that it needed to be replaced for while.
Here are some interesting observations.
I am running Cataclysm from 11/26 with ElementalX-0.11 slightly undervolted and configured for USB Fast Charge. When it died today, the battery meter read 71% although I did think that was quite high for how I used the phone. Both times, the phone would not respond to the power button at all. When I have had other phones died, they usually respond and try to boot at least. Because it won't respond at all, I doubt that it is the undervolting.
Has anyone else had this behavior? I saw one other person mention it, but the thread got hijacked to complain about the manufacturer's replacement policies. It may be that the batter meter is completely off and needs to be reset somehow.

Effects of USB Fast Charge
Has anyone had issues using USB Fast Charge? I was using ElementalX kernel which I configured for USB fast charge and used a 2 amp charger. The phone shutoff and would not power on (described below). I do not know, but it seemed to be correlated to switching to a stronger power supply in my car. I was thinking that something was overheating or otherwise having problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48188176#post48188176

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Battery Charging Issue

I know there is a bug in which after an overnight charge, the unit is unresponsive unitl you soft reset it. I've read the thread. My TP exhibits this problem as well. However, mine seems to have an additional problem not mentioned in that thread. After charging overnight, my TP IS NOT CHARGED! After an overnight charge, the battery is nearly dead and a soft reset does not fix that. It has happened several times now. After plugging it into the charger before bed, I confirm that the charge light is on and that it shows charging on the status screen, however, THE BATTERY IS NOT CHARGING. Has anyone else experienced this quirk? It doesn't always do this, however, so I'm very confused about what is happening.
Dumb question - but are you using the factory charger? I had a problem when I purchased my Touch Pro in the fact that I used another charger which also was USB for another phone, but for some reason had that problem. Using the charger supplied with the phone fixed it.
eryeal said:
Dumb question - but are you using the factory charger? I had a problem when I purchased my Touch Pro in the fact that I used another charger which also was USB for another phone, but for some reason had that problem. Using the charger supplied with the phone fixed it.
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Yup. Factory charger and cable. Not a dumb question, BTW. That could have very well been the problem although any USB charger should work.
What about if you turn the phone off and charge?
On a related issue, I used TomTom the other day for a 1 hour trip with the phone on a USB lighter socket charger. Started with 48% full battery, when I finished the battery was down to 30%!!! Basically the phone uses more power than the USB can provide when the screen+GPS is on!! I also find plugging the phone into the charger with the screen on & WiFi on will mean the phone charges at a speed of 1% every 8 minutes - taking all day to charge from empty!
To ease the problems I purchased a separate phone+battery cradle off eBay and a spare battery. I swap to the charged battery every morning and put the other one in to charge. The used battery is usually at 25% after a good days use. Before I did this and charged using the USB plug I used to get 6 hours use before needing to re-charge.
Disconnect the cable from the factory charger and plug in in your PC, see if it charges there. If it does, then you can return your charger, if it doesn't then i'd return my TP.
I have had the Touch Pro for eleven days(got in October 31,2008) and I have issues with the phone. First, I love this phone, however, the battery will not hold a charge. I started with a fully charged battery, used sprint navigation to direct me on a 2 hour trip. My phone was dead by the time I got to my destination. The phone was extremely hot, I mean extremely hot during the entire trip. The next day I took the phone into the sprint store and they switched the battery and told me that the phone check out okay. for the next several days, i used the phone sparingly to see if the battery was okay. I made about 7 calls and 12 text messages, my battery was down 3 bars after being fully charged. I tried the navigation within the city limits and the phone again stared to get hot. My sprint picturemail would not work, it takes hours to send a picturemail. I call customer care and talked with technical support, who did not have a clue about the phone, they had me on hold, researchec, told me to do a few things and then had me to perform a hard reset. The picturemail worked for a few messages and then it started to take hours to send a picturemail. i then went into a sprint store for ready now service to see if there was something I was doing that was causing the battery loss, etc. The CSR in the store did not have a clue about the phone. He went through the computer told me a few things to do and that was it. My battery continued to perform poorly, so I again called customer care and was told afte a serious of conversations and procedures that i need to have the phone replace and that my phone could be defective. They told me to go in to a store and have them make the switch. Well, there are no phones in any of the stores in my area. I call customer care again and asked them to look at the notes on my account and send me a replacement phone, because there are none available in the stores. That was a horror story and i currently have an expensive phone that i have to keep on the charger. i actually purchased a universal charger from sprint that can be used in your car and/or in a wall socket to make certain I don't lose my charge. I think the phone is over priced for how it is operating for me. Sprint should provide an additional battery for the touch pro like they do for the Instinct. The should also include the universal charger in the box. The phone cost to much to not operate better. The sprint picture mail sucks, The sprint TV sucks, but the phone is really nice, if sprint can correct the issues mentioned.
I don't charge it at night cuz i don't like to "overcharge", so i usually charge it when i get home b4 I sleep. I have been considering getting an additional battery with a dedicated battery charger from HTC though. ever gave that a thought?
I seem to be having this same issue with my Fuze that I just got yesterday. After a full night on charger it's at 82%. I'm going to try it over usb on pc to see if it gets any higher otherwise I'll be taking it back to the store today.
The HTC touch pro (with factory ROM) is protected from overloading. Which means that overnight it will load for about 3 hours from an empty battery and then it is full (white light will go from sliding to full circle). After that the charging stops. Which means that if you sleep for 8 hours, the remaining 5 hours your phone will be using the battery.
Now the question remains, what is drianing your battery in 5 hours? The initial suspects are GPS (any GPS software should be cleared from memory, press the most right corner icon to see what's running), the wifi or the HSPA / 3G connection. Use comm manager to put those off.
Of course, the second option is that the charging is not happening because of a defect, in that case return it to the shop.
Pretty sure this is a common problem, I don't think returning the phone will solve a thing.
My phone does the same. Though if you charge it with the phone turned off, it charges fine. I purchased a separate charger and spare battery and just swap them over when I need to (1.5 days with moderate usage).
Pretty sure this is all down to the phone using more power than it should be, hopefully future rom updates will fix this. Even when using Tomtom in the car with the phone charging on a USB cigarette charge cable can't charge it - it actually has less charge at the end of a long journey.
Oh and I can also mention that I have the original HTC battery and two spare batteries (which look like copies with, the HTC sticker is there but not quite the same). The spare batteries act just the same as the original HTC battery.

[Q] Charging Interrupted - Battery Temp Too High or Too Low

I recently received a Droid Charge from Verizon as a replacement for a Thunderbolt which was basically rendered inoperable by the May OTA update due to near constant rebooting. I really like the Charge (with the exception of that hideous brown/orange theme - some of which looks designed by 1st graders!), but I'm having a MAJOR problem with it that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere else, and I'm wondering if I'm the only one suffering this issue!
I drive a tractor-trailer for a living and use Google Navigation as a back-up to a truck-dedicated GPS unit I have in my tractor. I have a dash mount that I used to keep my Thunderbolt in and I had no problems with it at all (except for the constant reboots). However, the first day I was using the Charge, the screen went dark all of the sudden after a couple of hours, and I'm like WTF?!! I couldn't get it to anything, so I pulled it out of the dash mount and let the sun shine on the screen - I saw the display was still on, but it had dimmed to the point that I couldn't see it without a light shining on it. In the middle of the screen was a dialog box with an exclamation point and the message "Charging Interrupted - battery temperature too high or too low"! I unplugged the Verizon-branded car charger and as soon as I did that, the screen became bright again, and the message disappeared. I left it like that for a while, until the low battery warning appeared. I then plugged the car charger in and let it start charging. Well, guess what? It darkened the screen again after almost 30 minutes of being connected to the car charger, and I saw the same battery temp too high message on the screen!
I have since tried to use the wall charger I got with my HTC Thunderbolt (my tractor has a power inverter in it, and electrical outlets to plug a power cord into, just like the outlets at home), but I got the same warning message on the screen. This is a REAL problem as it's basically causing the phone to be unusable, since I am not able to charge the battery when it gets low, due to the phone interrupting the charging! I went to a Verizon store, thinking it might just be a bad battery (especially because, when I first put the battery in the phone and plugged it in to charge, I got an "Incompatible battery" message on the phone). I took the battery out and reinserted it, and I never got that message again. Verizon gave me a brand-new battery, but that didn't help. They sent me another Droid Charge to replace the first one, but the 2nd one is doing the same thing!
Anybody have any idea what's going on here? I've had the same problem now with 2 seperate batteries and two seperate Droid Charge phones, but I never had that problem with my Thunderbolt, even though I used the same wall & car chargers with IT! The back of the Charge's are getting very hot, but, then again, so did my Thunderbolt, and I never had a charging issue with it. I'd really like to keep the Charge and send my Thunderbolt back to Verizon, but I can't do that without finding a solution to this problem!
Thanks,
Dennis
I used to have this issue with several HTC phones. What happens is that if you keep the phone on the dash in direct sunlight, the battery reaches critical temperatures and to prevent the risk of failure, it stops the battery from charging. This happened all the time on my HTC phones from the Mogul 6800 to the Touch Pro. Not sure why the T-Bolt didn't have that issue, maybe it was set to a higher threshold before stopping the charging.
You may want to keep it out of direct sunlight or take the battery cover off to let more air flow in when charging on the dash.
Hope that helps.
I had the same problem. The warning message seems to be a safety feature built into the Charge that waits to charge the battery until it is cooled off.
I found that unpluging and turning off navigation for a while helped cool things off.
I also tried having the phone fully charged before using it for navigation and then plugging it in and this seemed to help. I am no expert, but it seems that when the phone is not trying to charge a battery rapidly it deals with the GPS heat better.
I hope this helps; stick with it and keep bugging Verizon!
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So they sent you a Charge, but you kept the tbolt charger? And they have sent you multiple Charges and batteries, but never the correct charger? If this is right, you need to tell them to give you a Charge charger (heh). This phone seems to be pretty particular about what charges it, I can't even use a usb extension cable, so the wrong charger may be the culprit.
I've been getting this as well using CoPilot Live v8 (just upgraded to v9). I found if I turned down the screen brightness a bit, say to 80%, I could still see the screen but avoid most of the battery charging issues.
I also just purchased a Tetrax XWAY mount that will attach to an air conditioning vent. We'll see if blowing cool air onto the back will let me drive around with the brightness turned full up.
My concern with brightness all the way up is that I am not sure if the charge rate from the lighter plug will keep up with the discharge rate on the DC when everything is running full tilt...I just ordered a Tek-Tok Wireless lighter plug USB charger, Input: 12-24V DC; Output: 5.0V DC 2.1Amp! Let the frying begin!!!
p.s. I tried the Samsung/Verizon navigation mount on a 5-day trip...not too bad of a design, BUT, would not work with my extended battery and back PLUS when the DC goes into car dock mode (automatically when inserted into the navigation dock) it comes up with a screen that has a shortcut to VZ Navigator that CANNOT be edited or changed to another navigation program. You have to disable the dock in order to use another navigation program! What's with THAT, Verizon and Samsung!!! Needless to say, returned the mount yesterday...
Try turning your brightness down, make sure it's going into sleep mode and keep it out of direct sunlight
I also had the exact same overheating issue. After getting a replacement device I started looking at the charger I was using. I had been using a micro usb charger that only output 500ma. The droid charger is 1000ma (or 1 amp). Apparently I was using more power than the charger could provide. The charger couldn't keep up and I guess that must have been the issue because since switching to a 1 amp charger, I haven't had overheating issues.
"Charging Interrupted - battery temperature too high or too low"
Living in Miami, I have seen this message a few times after leaving the Charge in my car.
Run a free sensor program to tell you the battery temp when it does this. Mine gets up to 130 F.
If your phone isnt really at 130F, maybe something is tricking the sensor or it is faulty.
I rooted my Charge today, installing a new kernel (imnuts' PeanutButta Jelly Time) and a new ROM (GummyCHARGED 1.8.5), and I drove 3 1/2 hours from my terminal back to my home for the weekend with the Charge plugged into the charger and never once got the "battery temperature too high or too low" message!
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that doing this eliminated my charging problems with the Droid - we'll see!
Dennis
Google maps updated and one of the new features is "Improved battery power management for Navigation (Beta)." Hopefully this helps to solve our problem!
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One thing I did to help prevent this issue when it gets to hot is to set the air vents in your car to the defroster setting, so it will blow air at the windshield, and in turn your phone on the dash. Also, taking off the back can do wonders to prevent over heating.

Charging SOD

I have the problem when I charge my infinity overnight, I will not be able to turn it back on again unless I perform a force restart by holding the power button for more than 10 seconds. Anyone experience with this issue or it's only me?
Nope, I don't get any of that sort of thing.
Feel for you though.
That feel when your transformer prime SOD's and you think you've hardbricked it.
I don't ever want to feel that feel again, espically with my tf700.
I went to see the batter status and it's dead after a few minutes of charging
I have a same problem
I charge tf700 by using asus certified ac adaptor from ac 220v electric source.
after overnight charging, sometimes it works properly, but sometimes it don't wake from the sleep
so I must reset tf700 by using clip.
In asus tf700 user's manual, asus recommends that user must turn tf700 off while overnight charging.
this recommendation implies that tf700 has a thermal fuse acting when overheating of battery module while
long time charging.
This power off phenomenon when battery module overheating occurs also when user use tf700 by laptop substitute
with plugging on ac adaptor
You Must Power OFF tf700 COMPLETELY while Charging for a long time.
I realized that this only occur in battery saving mode. It doesn't happen in balanced mode. And I don't think it's o overheating problem because it died a few minutes after charging. My infinity is even hotter while playing dead trigger lol
My heart sank once i anxiously open mine up put it on the charger, went to sleep, woke up turned it on to the splash screen... just to have to go black and hear a chime. I quickly googled everything i could an tried each reset method... now im anxiously watching the ASUS rma status screen...:crying:

[Q] Battery or charger at fault?

I have a locked & unrooted WW TF700 & genuine dock on JB 4.2.1.
A week ago I started to notice an issue where the tab would constantly drain whilst it should have been asleep. Overnight it would loose ~30% instead of ~2%. I tried a few settings, but couldn't seem to solve it. I decided to do a factory reset because I haven't done one since I last upgraded to jelly bean. That appears to have cured that problem, but has created two more.
The first problem is that I can't seem to charge the tab over 81% when being charged directly. If I then plug it into a fully charged dock it will charge to 90% but no more, even with the charging cable in the dock.
The second problem is that the tab now decides to shut off at about 30% battery left. It won't shutdown as normal, just go blank and won't boot up again without being charged a little first. I have read threads about artificially overcharging the tab, but a symptom of that is the battery level will remain at 100% for hours before starting to drain normally. My tab won't charge to 100% and will start to drain immediately after removing the charging cable. Regardless I have tried to drain and recharge overnight with the tab both off and on but the tab won't charge past 76% overnight in either case. Restarting multiple times doesn't help at all.
For the first issue I started to suspect the charger may be at fault. This is because if I charge the tab directly, it will never get past 81%. However, if I then plug it into the freshly charged dock it will charge upto 90%. I understand that the dock will never charge the tab past 90%, unless it is plugged into the charger. Does it assume in my case that it isn't plugged in to a charger even when it is? I should mention I am using the original asus charger. Frustratingly I can't just use my phone charger to see if it solves the problem due to the 15v of the asus charger. I have noticed a slight hum/buzz coming from the charger but I can't be sure that it didn't do that before. I have had issues with the internal connections not be pushed together quite right before and getting no charge out of it, but 'clicking it together' a bit more firmly did the trick there.
Even with an overnight charge, plugged into the dock to get it to 90% I now get terrible battery life. Roughly 30mins per 10% juice. Previously I was getting around an hour per 10%.
Does anyone have an suggestions for me on how to eliminate the charger as a problem, or say doing another factory reset on a 'full charge'? The only other thing I can think of is to let it drain, give it enough charger to turn back on, then turn it off and leave it unplugged overnight (I saw it mentioned in another thread). I really appreciate any help you can give before I have to try the dreaded warranty route!
Try this with it undocked. Let the battery discharge to zero, and leave it 24 hours.
Then recharge it fully. This seems to cure the battery calibration memory issues.most us know how you get on.
Luckily I have located an Asus charger to borrow and hopefully find out if it is just my charger or not.
I also tried out CPU-Z and the battery is reporting as only having 7mV. I'm sure that can't be correct as my HOX+ is around 3500mV, and 7mV just couldn't power anything. I don't know if this is just CPU-Z issue with reporting correctly, or a clue that there is something not right with my battery? Has anyone else tried CPU-Z or know what the mV should be roughly, fully charged say?
Unfortunately a different charger didn't solve my issue :'(
I've posted a screenshot to show what is happening. I'll try draining the battery flat and leaving 24 hours to see what happens then. Luckily I still have two months left on warranty.
Pretty annoying because everything else the tablet does is fantastic. I replaced my laptop with it and use it daily for everything.
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Unfortunately things have become worse. I tried using the tab until it died (at around 50% battery this time...) and left for 24 hours as suggested. Unfortunately now I can't get the tab to turn on or take a charge at all. I have tried holding power button down, with vol up/down, for over a minute etc. Tried the reset button all numerous times with no luck. All I get is the LED blink twice when pressing the power button and this only happens when the charger is connected, otherwise nothing.
I have the phone number for Asus support and will be giving them a call tomorrow. I'm so glad I never unlocked my device!
Gudders said:
Unfortunately things have become worse. I tried using the tab until it died (at around 50% battery this time...) and left for 24 hours as suggested. Unfortunately now I can't get the tab to turn on or take a charge at all. I have tried holding power button down, with vol up/down, for over a minute etc. Tried the reset button all numerous times with no luck. All I get is the LED blink twice when pressing the power button and this only happens when the charger is connected, otherwise nothing.
I have the phone number for Asus support and will be giving them a call tomorrow. I'm so glad I never unlocked my device!
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Leave it for 24 hours not on charge first then try again. We've seen this happen so many times - the fix is to let it discharge completely.
sbdags said:
Leave it for 24 hours not on charge first then try again. We've seen this happen so many times - the fix is to let it discharge completely.
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Thanks Sbdags, I appreciate your response. I've read numerous threads tonight with similar issues. I did try leaving the tab for 24 hours completely dead overnight last night. I'll try it again (I don't know if the battery is dead or not currently) but I'll leave it unplugged as there is nothing else for me to do with it anyway!
OK, I thought I would complete this thread.
After leaving my tablet for a few more days not on charge I could seem to get no life out of it whatsoever so went down the RMA route and the result of that is in the following thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45065793#post45065793
Gudders.:crying:

[Q] Z3 Bizarre slow charging via magnetic connector?

Hey guys first time posting here.
I've had my Z3 for almost 3 months now and have recently noticed some strange things going on with its charging.
Ive been using a third party magnetic charging cable for entire time I've had my phone and they work really well, they charge at a good speed. However, recently the charging time has slowed down dramatically. For example, last night my phone was at 31%, i charged it for 5 and a half hours and it only reached 36%. I checked the battery info tab and it says AC, also the graph showing the battery level shows that the charging is very slow, it says it was charging for the full 5 and 1/2 hours.
-also, no apps were running and the main power user was the screen (as always) which was off.
I don't know what's wrong, I did a battery partition reset a week ago since i was having problems where the phone won't charge past 80% and the reset fixed the 80% problem, but now this is happening.
The charging cable i use is not broken since it works in different power outlets throughout my house and charges the phone normally.
I don't use ROMs and it has the stock factory operating system.
Anyone else have this problem?

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