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Hi All,
I have seen many posts in web about DUAL Sim (GSM/GSM) - China Mobiles.
When Searched I could see there are other Branded Windows Mobiles that support Dual Sim (GSM/GSM) at same time.
So is there any Dual Sim (GSM/GSM) Mobiles from HTC yet? or HTC is planing to jump to market after some time?
Some links:
http://ces.cnet.com/8301-13855_1-9847071-67.html?tag=more
http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS4291777788.html
http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=5106
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/19/haier-dual-sim-windows-mobile-smartphone-coming-to-the-us.html
http://gizmodo.com/379019/worlds-fi...le-phone-keeps-girlfriends-and-wives-separate
I was just thinking if dual SIM can be installed in VOX and got several links of which I found the SIMORE interesting. Link below, Any practical experience from any user is appreciated. Finally whatever I have searched in net - all says the SIMs have to be cuut. Is there any way for using dual SIMs in Uncut mode in VOX.
Thanks.
http://www.simore.ch/en/mobile_phone_accessory/HTC/S710.html
Chances are less that HTC or Nokia or such companies will jump into dual sim wagon. Even Sony doesn't have a dual SIM phone. The basic reason is -
a) They are battery killer.
b) Its pretty useless, if you think seriousely, you can not use both sims calls simultaneousely - that is the other caller will get a engage tone.
c) If you look at the market, the only so called company to launch a dual sim phone is Samsung, but then Samsung phone's are notorious for their compatibility issues.
i think, Addicted2xda clearly pointed the issues with dual sim phones.
there is a Spice pocketpc2003 phone which supports dual sim, which i had seen at times of india direct to readers advertisement.
china phones
can we boot china phones with windows 6.1?
Actually you can buy a dual-sim Windows Mobile:
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=178404
I have one and it's working perfectly.
Acer have bought Eten so they're about to sell the DX900 rebranded:
http://www.gsmarena.com/acer_dx900_to_unveil_a_dualsim_pocketpc_at_the_mwc_2009-news-766.php
Addicted2xda said:
Chances are less that HTC or Nokia or such companies will jump into dual sim wagon. Even Sony doesn't have a dual SIM phone. The basic reason is -
a) They are battery killer.
b) Its pretty useless, if you think seriousely, you can not use both sims calls simultaneousely - that is the other caller will get a engage tone.
c) If you look at the market, the only so called company to launch a dual sim phone is Samsung, but then Samsung phone's are notorious for their compatibility issues.
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Well I think you are missing the point of Dual-Sim mobile phones - While I can agree with point a) (they clearly are battery killers), I have to disagree with others.
I actually think, they are pretty useful - as for what you mentioned - well, both sim cards are online at time and it's perfectly ok if the caller gets busy signal if you are calling using the other sim card isn't it? Or you are able to make two calls at once?
On the other hand, having two sim cars online, brings you the possibility to use two networks at time or two different tariffs - for example, many providers offer substantially cheaper calls within their networks, so this way you can call cheaply to much more friends. Other example might be that one provider might be offering well priced data plans, while the other offers free calls and text messages - with dual-sim phone, you can use them easily together in one phone...
All things considered, I think that there's great potential in dual-sim phones and it would be less than clever for manufacturers to overlook it...
I surely hope that some good, dual-sim, Windows Mobile phone would emerge soon, as it would be high in my list of potential replacements for my Vox (which is plagued with the annoying "Not available after GPRS/EDGE usage" problem)...
viruss said:
Well I think you are missing the point of Dual-Sim mobile phones - While I can agree with point a) (they clearly are battery killers), I have to disagree with others.
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Very sorry to disagree, I think we have all seen a lot of pple juggling with a land phone and a mobile in office, you know - "Could you please hold on for a moment I will get back to you" and talking to the other phone, I think juggling with two phones is easier than putting one on hold (if that is possible, i have no idea) and switching back and forth between two calls. But then that is my idea. As far as Point 3 goes, I don't know about WM based devics, but all you have to do is search a little on the net for applications for Samsung's generic phones. This is unfortunately not the case with SE or Nokia handset .
Well, I just hope that my post didn't sound like "Hey, just my opinion is the right one" - I certainly didn't mean to say something like that...
I just wanted to give another view on dual-sim phones
There are like 2-3 WM phones from different manufacturers with dual-sim slots, but neither has hardware keyboard which is something I've grown used to
i want to buy moto g but its hard for me to find which model is better?
single sim or dual?
google play version or not?
i mean which one have better xperiance?
normally we love google play versions . but here we have a motorola.i had not any motorola cellphons before
which one is better? motorola roms and suport? or the google ones?
which one have better roms and support and development?
single sim? dual sim?
tanx alot.and exm for my english.
I depends on your needs and your network. Do you need dual Sim?
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Durteedee said:
I depends on your needs and your network. Do you need dual Sim?
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if the dual sim is like sigle sim in all things( roms-performance-development)-you know for example galasy s and galaxy s dual arent like together-
i wana get dual sim
but if not.no problem.i will use single sim
imean aim asking you about the performance-roms- support -development
tnx again
It's like the single sim. It's not like Samsung which Dou's versions are different.
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tnx bro
what about roms? which one is better? motorola or google play version?
generally nexsus are more better.cuse better support .but i dont know motorola
which one have better support for updates and what difference did you seen in motorola rom and google ?
Currently most ROMs only support single SIM variants with very limited support to dual sim devices or none at all, but this can change later.
The moto g runs stock android. Its not a custom skinned rom like HTC and Samsung like to do. So really, the only difference is the GPE doesn't have the 3 Motorola apps (migrate, help, and the better moto camera app). Also, the GPE will get updates a couple months before.
My suggestion is get the normal moto g because of the camera app is better. Though, really in day to day use, you'll never notice if its the normal one or the play edition.
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The moto g runs stock android. Its not a custom skinned rom like HTC and Samsung like to do. So really, the only difference is the GPE doesn't have the 3 Motorola apps (migrate, help, and the better moto camera app). Also, the GPE will get updates a couple months before.
My suggestion is get the normal moto g because of the camera app is better. Though, really in day to day use, you'll never notice if its the normal one or the play edition.
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3 actually usefull apps and also Regular Moto G has an F2fs file system which was first used in moto x and promises faster random data reads ( faster read performances )
And about the updates....You can be sure that as soon as Moto G gpe would get any s/w update...it will be ported soon enough to regular one too
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Dual SIM Google Play Edition
tplnoor said:
i want to buy moto g but its hard for me to find which model is better?
single sim or dual?
google play version or not?
i mean which one have better xperiance?
normally we love google play versions . but here we have a motorola.i had not any motorola cellphons before
which one is better? motorola roms and suport? or the google ones?
which one have better roms and support and development?
single sim? dual sim?
tanx alot.and exm for my english.
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>Dual vs Single: Dual SIM
Why?
Because you will have space for one extra SIM if some day you need it, no harm in having two slots while if you have only one you might need to buy a new phone just for an extra SIM.
>Google Play vs Moto Version: Google Play
Why?
You will get unlocked Boot loader with warranty which you loose out in Moto Version in case you unlock your Boot loader.
Its like they unlock the boot loader for you with the warranty intact.
This will allow you to play with different ROMs without loosing out your warranty.:laugh:
For software support, Google ROM support will always be better than Motorola any day.
Further, in case of Hardware issues you shall be contacting Motorola in both cases so you aren't loosing out nothing
by buying a Google play edition.
Verdict: Dual SIM Google Play Edition :good:
Edit: as mentioned by @jaspreet997
Such phone is not available and also I have checked up the same.
So then opt for Simple SIM GPE untill and unless a dual SIM is very very important to you.
Are there any dual sim gpe being sold anywhere? I think not
tanx again
generally single sims have better development(i dont know about motorola).if its true on motorola.its more important than one sim more
in my country motorola havent eny office and the waranty isnt meaning here!
i think moto version will get updates as soon as the GPE got
so the motorola one sim looks better
thank you all
ashut0sh said:
>Dual vs Single: Dual SIM
Why?
Because you will have space for one extra SIM if some day you need it, no harm in having two slots while if you have only one you might need to buy a new phone just for an extra SIM.
>Google Play vs Moto Version: Google Play
Why?
You will get unlocked Boot loader with warranty which you loose out in Moto Version in case you unlock your Boot loader.
Its like they unlock the boot loader for you with the warranty intact.
This will allow you to play with different ROMs without loosing out your warranty.:laugh:
For software support, Google ROM support will always be better than Motorola any day.
Further, in case of Hardware issues you shall be contacting Motorola in both cases so you aren't loosing out nothing
by buying a Google play edition.
Verdict: Dual SIM Google Play Edition :good:
Edit: as mentioned by @jaspreet997
Such phone is not available and also I have checked up the same.
So then opt for Simple SIM GPE untill and unless a dual SIM is very very important to you.
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Reading this I again realized how different we people are. Because I would vote for a single sim regular phone instead.
- Why single sim? Because of the fact there are much more roms supporting only the single sim variant. Of course there will be dual sim roms, but when? I dont know? If in a month, then thats good. If in six months, thats bad ... many of us dont usually keep devices like this more than a year and being without flashing half of the time - nope, thanks!
- Why regular? I like what (little) Ive heard abou F2FS. And I dont care about warranty - I already have no warranty for my phone because I screwed up the purchase ... but thats another story
So, my advice - unless you need dual sim (or are going to need it soon), get regular single-sim.
Or not, it doesnt really matter lol ...
michalurban said:
Reading this I again realized how different we people are. Because I would vote for a single sim regular phone instead.
- Why single sim? Because of the fact there are much more roms supporting only the single sim variant. Of course there will be dual sim roms, but when? I dont know? If in a month, then thats good. If in six months, thats bad ... many of us dont usually keep devices like this more than a year and being without flashing half of the time - nope, thanks!
- Why regular? I like what (little) Ive heard abou F2FS. And I dont care about warranty - I already have no warranty for my phone because I screwed up the purchase ... but thats another story
So, my advice - unless you need dual sim (or are going to need it soon), get regular single-sim.
Or not, it doesnt really matter lol ...
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Good points.
Regarding f2fs, how hard can it be to format a partition? I'm actually wondering the answer to this, as I have the GPE and it seems CM11 for the Moto G just went official. But like you said, it looks like the GPE and the dual-sim owners will have to wait longer.
I'm deciding to buy the moto g
in canada, i'm on wind, so i have to get the aws version, and here's where it gets interesting
because i have to get the aws version, i have to buy it the moto g 16gb at 230$ or the moto g lte 8gb at 225 (plus 15$ unlock code probably)
wind doesn't have lte, so it doesnt really matter in that regards other than future proofing
sd card is nice, i have an 8gb from my phone that i'll pull in it, but 16 is enough too probably
other than that, rooting would be good, but that would be voiding the warranty because u need to unlock the bootloader, so i'm not so sure what i want to do in that regards
the android os support is already good by motorola, so i dont really see the end for custom roms, but i do use apps that requires root (greenify and adblock and xposed framework from the top of my head)
not so sure about the 4g/lte version about that, seems like u cant root it yet (?) and there's no xda for the newer version
any opinions are welcomed
anonxlg said:
I'm deciding to buy the moto g
in canada, i'm on wind, so i have to get the aws version, and here's where it gets interesting
because i have to get the aws version, i have to buy it the moto g 16gb at 230$ or the moto g lte 8gb at 225 (plus 15$ unlock code probably)
wind doesn't have lte, so it doesnt really matter in that regards other than future proofing
sd card is nice, i have an 8gb from my phone that i'll pull in it, but 16 is enough too probably
other than that, rooting would be good, but that would be voiding the warranty because u need to unlock the bootloader, so i'm not so sure what i want to do in that regards
the android os support is already good by motorola, so i dont really see the end for custom roms, but i do use apps that requires root (greenify and adblock and xposed framework from the top of my head)
not so sure about the 4g/lte version about that, seems like u cant root it yet (?) and there's no xda for the newer version
any opinions are welcomed
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well, if you don't use 4g you should buy the original moto g, the reason i would pick the 3g moto g if motorola will stop the support you can always go for CM (official) or other custom ROMs, for the 4G version development is pretty much 0. So long term, the original moto g would be my choice, but that is just my opinion.
BTW, if you play many games and need a sd card you should go for the Moto G 4G, i am a casual player and i don't feel the need for extra storage, but again, that is just me . Nevertheless no matter what you choose it will be a minor differences.
i dont install junk on my phone, so that's not really a problem
is there any reason the lte version isnt getting any development (yet?)?
anonxlg said:
is there any reason the lte version isnt getting any development (yet?)?
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So far as I gather, it's because the LTE version has only just been released.
I personally went for the LTE version primarily because of the MicroSD card; it ultimately seems like you're paying about the same price for a phone with slightly more advanced capabilities.
anonxlg said:
i dont install junk on my phone, so that's not really a problem
is there any reason the lte version isnt getting any development (yet?)?
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As Moto G came 6 months before the LTE version, the big brother took all the attention of the developers. It's still too early to call that the LTE version won't get any development, just might take a bit longer. I remember it took about 2 months for the original moto g to get any custom rom...
However, you may consider the fact that by coming 6 months later, the LTE version is supposed to get original update for 6 months longer ! :fingers-crossed: (assuming the 18 months life period for a device )
For the Moto G LTE, I don't see why you should have any trouble rooting it or needing to buy unlock code if you purchase an unlocked version, which is sim unlocked and will allow you to unlock the bootloader from Motorola website, no doubt there will be a custom recovery available for it so you can flash SuperSU then, no need for custom roms.
If the only reason you want the 4G LTE version is storage i suggest you look at these two links, so you don't end up with a 8gb phone and unable to use storage.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783238 https://forums.motorola.com/posts/7e59cc7baf
Some sd cards do not work on the device atm motorola is looking into it howerver no idea if it will get fixed the cards in question are generally class 10 and UHS however it includes some others aswell.
I have the original moto g xt1032 with the 16gb storage. firstly, 4G doesn't really matter because do you really need 4g just to look something up ? or just to check the weather 3G is fine. (where I'm living I only have 2G and I still live with it). secondly, I love having the otg support because u can plug in any flash drive and away you go and you can plug in USB into computer without putting it into an adapter like the sdcard. I'm not a heavy user I have used up 5 GB of my storage with games and still works perfectly that's my personal taste. but everyone has different choices and tastes
just a bit of clarification, for some reason, in canada, it seems like motorola has some sort of agreement with rogers/fido and the 4g version is ONLY available at rogers/fido, so i have to buy a (sim) unlock to use it with my carrier, wind
I'd say to go for the LTE variant given the price difference.
If you travel abroad the LTE version has pentaband HSPA which could come in handy, whereas the XT1032 won't work on HSPA outside of North America.
Plus if you switch back to the big three at some point (certainly not because they're giving you a cheaper deal...) you get to use that LTE you'll be paying through the nose for.
As far as custom ROMs go, I've got TWRP building and booting on my XT1045, although I still need to work on the fstab for it to work to my liking. Will make a thread once I've got something worth releasing. Ultimately I want to build OmniROM for it.
I bought a 64GB Kingston microSD card (model SDCX10/64GB) and it works like a charm.
My impression is that custom ROMs should make their way to the LTE model over time, the phone shares essentially the same board as the 3G variants, so it's not a huge step for a dev to support both devices so long as there's quality feedback and bug reports.
Quick question: fido says
Network and Wireless connection
LTE : AWS/2600/900/700 MHz
HSPA Bands: 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz
GSM Bands: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Download/Upload Speeds: HSDPA 42.2 Mbps, HSUPA 5.76Mbps
Bluetooth® 4.0
Wi-Fi®: 802.11 b/g/
I'm not sure if you are confirming it, but does this mean it will work with Wind?
The GSM (non lte) version says HSPA 1700 (aws), but the LTE version doesn't say aws beside it. Or is all HSPA 1700.. AWS?
I would go with LTE version, for the same price you get an extra feature, which will be better for resale and options in the future. Miscorsd card slot that can hold 32 gigs. There is no downfall in getting it, even if you don't need the features.
For absolutely no price difference, OFF COUSE get the LTE version... OMG... I'm really surprised there's people saying you should buy regular version... Even if you are not planning to use it now, having such great features for about the same price is definitely the way to go...
at the end of the day we're only giving opinions people. it's the buyers choice based on reviews which version he wants to get. no need to tell that you should defiantly buy the LTE version or 3G one. it's the persons choice so don't argue about which one he buys. just post reviews
ended up getting the lte version, unlocked it right away, working on wind now after cutting my sim to micro sim
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ended up getting the lte version, unlocked it right away, working on wind now after cutting my sim to micro sim
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that's good .I cut my normal sim card to micro sim myself and now my sim card is jammed into sim port :laugh:
If you're living in a non LTE area, IMHO the only real advantage of Moto G LTE against the G is the gyro sensor. Card slot is a plus but it only comes with 8gb internal memory, that's a big disadvantage of the Moto G LTE. So i don't see it as an upgrade over Moto G. It's just another model for LTE martkets. Development wise Moto G is pretty popular, you can find it officially supported by all android dev teams. The development fate of the Moto G LTE still remain in dark.
I have a Canadian X Play, and while taking my sim out, noticed it said Sim 1. Thought it odd, so looked at the other spot. It looked like a dummy plate, so I peeled it off, and voila. It says Sim 2. Taking a quick peek inside the slot looks like it has the pins that would make contact with a second sim. I put my Sim in slot two, but it didn't pick it up. Not sure if you need to have a Sim in both slots, or maybe if it's enabled in software. I don't have a second nano sim to test. It looks like the hardware is all there. Once we get some factory images up, and some devs, it'd be interesting to see if these are all just the same device with a different tray and software.
Maybe it is disabled in software. Like a single sim build flashed.
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From what I know there's three current versions of the Moto X Play.
Canadian, Europe/UK and Nordic.
The Canadian and UK ones do not have two radios, but the Nordic one does, and that one supports Dual-Sim.
The Canadian and UK ones probably still have the pins for the sim card slot though.
I'm getting my Dual-Sim one in a couple of hours, we can try and find out if there's any differences?
Makes sense about the dual radios. I was silently hoping it was simple lol.
What makes me a bit sad, is that I have to choose between using two sim cards, or one sim and one SD card
TheDeadCPU said:
What makes me a bit sad, is that I have to choose between using two sim cards, or one sim and one SD card
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I don't understand what you mean.
I have a dual sim model (XT1562) and don't have to make the choices you state. I'm using 2 SIM cards and a microSD card.
henrooo said:
I don't understand what you mean.
I have a dual sim model (XT1562) and don't have to make the choices you state. I'm using 2 SIM cards and a microSD card.
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I thought the SD card was also where the second sim would be, now that I actually have the device in my hand I see that it is not so
henrooo said:
I don't understand what you mean.
I have a dual sim model (XT1562) and don't have to make the choices you state. I'm using 2 SIM cards and a microSD card.
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But does your phone have the LTE band 20 (800 Mhz)?
ludovicien said:
But does your phone have the LTE band 20 (800 Mhz)?
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Yes it does:
4G LTE (1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 19, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41)
Ah now that's tempting. I'm getting bored waiting for the Honor 7 and I can get a dual-sim Play down the road from my local equivalent of Currys (if that still exists).
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Ah now that's tempting. I'm getting bored waiting for the Honor 7 and I can get a dual-sim Play down the road from my local equivalent of Currys (if that still exists).
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Yes, Currys still exists
I'm impressed with the phone. I'm not a heavy user, but the battery life is very good. Especially after using a Nexus 4 for the past 2 yrs.
Even with both SIMs on, I'm getting 42-50 hrs of battery life and approx' 6:30 hrs screen on time. I'm sure I can get even more with only one SIM on.
I had a nexus 4 and battery life was pretty bad. However I struggle with battery life on all my android phones. I see people with 6 hours screen on with other devices and have no idea how even with kernel tuning I don't get near that. My Voda Smart Ultra 6 I occasionally got 5 hours screen in but then some days I got only 2 and a half. Nothing significant showing in usage either...
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Which model is dual SIM? XT1562 or XT1563 or another model?
From gsmarena the XT1562 is European model (?) comes only with SS (single Sim) and has less LTE bands while XT1563 comes in both SS & DS (dual SIM) and has more LTE bands - AWS for one which is 1700/2100. I just looked this up from website so there might be more variations worldwide but if you are in NA (North America) I would make sure it's a XT1563 so you have the right bands for LTE. AFAIK the carriers in Canada are all bringing in SS units (XT1563) while the Mexican /Spanish units (also XT1563) are all DS units.
Not exactly a cut & dried answer but I hope it helps you out.
I have been more than happy with mine XT1563 SS but would have got a DS if available for same price & on shelf.
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Which model is dual SIM? XT1562 or XT1563 or another model?
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I just flashed XT1562_LUX_RETASIA_DS_5.1.1_LPD23.118-12_cid7_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC on my RETEU phone and can confirm that the second sim slot works fine if you take off the cover.
mexican version is dual sim xt1563
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I just flashed XT1562_LUX_RETASIA_DS_5.1.1_LPD23.118-12_cid7_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC on my RETEU phone and can confirm that the second sim slot works fine if you take off the cover.
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Did you flash that on a European XT1562 or a XT1563? I'm wondering if I should try XT1563_LUX_RETLA_DS_5.1.1_LPD23.118-6.1_cid12_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip on mine.
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Did you flash that on a European XT1562 or a XT1563? I'm wondering if I should try XT1563_LUX_RETLA_DS_5.1.1_LPD23.118-6.1_cid12_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip on mine.
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European XT1562.
That's pretty cool that Motorola left things "doable" for us enthusiasts to utilize the second SIM by flashing the right ROM.
I am fairly sure that's just a (wonderful) side effect of technically inept management
I wonder if that affects LTE bands also?
Hey guys,
My current phone's fingerprint sensor just ceased to function, and it really pissed me off considering the device is less than a year old.
I'm thinking of ditching it and getting a G7 Power.
What's the status of Google's call screening assistant? That's one feature I really want. I'd much prefer the moto for SD card and battery life if possible, but will jump up to the 3a XL if needed for this feature.
PS: I'm located in Canada
Edit: Since nobody answered, yes, I do get it in Canada. XT-1955-2 ordered from Amazon (Dual Sim, 4GB RAM version)
Call screening works.
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