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In July 2011, my Nexus S was stolen. I went to the police but they said they probably couldn't recover the device. So I just kinda let it go.
Well, a few weeks ago I found out the the phone was still connected to my Market account. This provides a bit of a security concern because I've got my credit card on my market account too, but they haven't bought anything. Just for fun, I decided to download and install Plan B to the phone, and within a few hours, I got four emails of the phone's location within 15 meters. Well, I didn't have time to bring that to the police, and that was eleven days ago. So I have a few questions:
1. I want to be able to get a more recent location because I'm afraid the police will say the location is too many days old. I know you can text "locate" or whatever to the phone but it's not my number anymore. (I know this because on my market account it says it's an AT&T phone whereas I'm on T-Mobile.)
2. Is there any way at all to remote remove the app and re install it?
3. Is there another app similar to Plan B that I can do the same thing?
4. Is there anything else I can do?
-Matthew
That really sucks. I know Lookout had an option on their site to collect the location through the internet, no phone number required. Don’t know if it's 100% sure, but it's worth a shot. Really hope you get your phone back. Good luck!
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flodb113 said:
That really sucks. I know Lookout had an option on their site to collect the location through the internet, no phone number required. Don’t know if it's 100% sure, but it's worth a shot. Really hope you get your phone back. Good luck!
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I never installed the Mobile Security app. :/ So I don't know if that would help me. Thanks though!
mattjorgs said:
I never installed the Mobile Security app. :/ So I don't know if that would help me. Thanks though!
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You should be able to login to your Google voice account and see which number it now forwards to. Assuming you had it on the phone and they did set it up. If not you can just text to your Google voice number and it should go through.
I don't have Voice to forward to any phone. :/ Darnit!
Hang on. You used Plan B, you got the location of your missing phone... and then did NOTHING?
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Hang on. You used Plan B, you got the location of your missing phone... and then did NOTHING?
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It was during a busy week. :/ Last week of school before break, billions of projects and tests. :s
I did talk to my dad about it (ex-cop) and he said they'd probably say it isn't enough to get a search warrant to get it or anything...
Um by any chance did you use latitude? All you need then would be a friend's phone and it would be like a gps to your phone
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aic719 said:
Um by any chance did you use latitude? All you need then would be a friend's phone and it would be like a gps to your phone
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Never used Latitude. Not sure if any of my friends even use it. I'm like a hardcore geek compared to those gamers. xD
Somebody tried to convience me by LOL'ing my concerns, that all permissions are necessary and no soft on Android Market, that could be harmful or say: abusive.
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No, Android is riddled with viruses.
Before I started developing apps I just ignored all the permission and installed. Now I realise how foolish that is, if an app has permissions to access your files, it can access ALL your files. Android should emphasise the permissions more IMO.
On windows phone, yes.
never!
Apps ask for so much permissions, I feel like the devs can do whatever they want... I mean, you're supposed to give away all your personal data to random people!? I usually avoid installing apps that for no reason ask for personal logs, reading sms, gps position and a bunch of other stuff, but usually games and apps ask for every permission available, it just feels creepy. That's why I tend to keep the number of apps on my phone to a minimum.
Android does have malware which although usually caught quickly can sometimes get through so it makes sense to check the permissions of an app because there are unscrupulous developers out there who do get such apps on the market.
If you use common sense (eg if a live wallpaper wants to read your texts or make calls then its probably not safe to install) you should be fine.
For someone to say android is riddled with viruses is just scaremongering as neither I nor anyone I know have had malware etc from the market because we use common sense but at same time anyone who claims there can't be viruses malware etc on market is just as wrong.
Bottom line is use common sense and if you can read the market comments then it also helps you decide if an app is ok.
But yes there are malware / virus apps and yes they have been on market before.
Dave
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Thats why root is a must to cut off from network access, at least.
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mistermentality said:
Bottom line is use common sense and if you can read the market comments then it also helps you decide if an app is ok.
But yes there are malware / virus apps and yes they have been on market before.
Dave
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Very true
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No, Android is riddled with viruses.
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Half truth.. As usual.
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does it give power options like when rooted? my power button was sticking like crazy and then when i tried to pop it up the whole thing flew out...
want to know what to say to VZW when i call for replacement...ie my power button was sticking and i couldnt do anything cuz power options kept coming up
would that be correct?
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I think it shows hibernate and airplane mode and reboot. Its been so long since I've seen it I can barely remember. I've been rooted since the day I got this phone lol.
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djcyph said:
does it give power options like when rooted? my power button was sticking like crazy and then when i tried to pop it up the whole thing flew out...
want to know what to say to VZW when i call for replacement...ie my power button was sticking and i couldnt do anything cuz power options kept coming up
would that be correct?
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I would just tell them it isn't working anymore. I've actually had that happen on another phone and they replaced it. I wouldn't send it back rooted though.
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heath2805 said:
I would just tell them it isn't working anymore. I've actually had that happen on another phone and they replaced it. I wouldn't send it back rooted though.
And it's just a standard menu on stock when holding power, nothing like a rooted custom from menu.
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I would just tell them it isn't working anymore. I've actually had that happen on another phone and they replaced it. I wouldn't send it back rooted though.
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yea def wont send back rooted...yea think ill say something like that, wont turn on all the time and when does shuts down cuz power button is in
yea i was curious to what the standard menu consisted of so i sounded more like i was on stock
I sent an Eris back rooted, s off and unlocked before and heard no complaints so you may get lucky but I wouldn't do it if I could avoid it.
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I sent an Eris back rooted, s off and unlocked before and heard no complaints so you may get lucky but I wouldn't do it if I could avoid it.
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i know not to send back rooted, ive unrooted b4....just want to know whats on the stock power menu lol
Verizon can see if you are rooted and any custom rom or modified kernel you are using. They have full access to all the information in the "about phone" screen in settings. If they wanted to deny a warranty claim due to being rooted, all they would have to do is look on their systems and see what you were running.
bastards said they will charge me 300 something if i send back without the power button
if i jam it in am i screwed either way if i send it back since i already callled??
asurion only has tblolts id rather wait till they out of stock and get rezound
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bastards said they will charge me 300 something if i send back without the power button
if i jam it in am i screwed either way if i send it back since i already callled??
asurion only has tblolts id rather wait till they out of stock and get rezound
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Id call back and talk to a different person, then tell them the button fell out (you did not pop it out) if that dont work get escalated (talk to their manager.
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Verizon can see if you are rooted and any custom rom or modified kernel you are using. They have full access to all the information in the "about phone" screen in settings. If they wanted to deny a warranty claim due to being rooted, all they would have to do is look on their systems and see what you were running.
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that sounds like a load of crap
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that sounds like a load of crap
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I agree. I have been over my about phone with Verizon several times and even returned rooted phones to them and they never said crap. I think they ask because they want to see if you're going to slip up and tell them some wrong information.
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that sounds like a load of crap
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+1 lol Verizon has no way to tell your rooted unless they have your phone in front of them. If they knew, you would be warned as soon as you root your device. Where do these people get their info?? Lol
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I agree. I have been over my about phone with Verizon several times and even returned rooted phones to them and they never said crap. I think they ask because they want to see if you're going to slip up and tell them some wrong information.
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Yeah most of them don't really care anyway. I had a touch pro 2 from Sprint, first phone I ever rooted. I panicked because I had to send it back, didn't know how to re-lock! Finally after searching and reading and searching I figured it out! Lol
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They can see your radio version every time you connect to their towers, They can see your software/kernel/baseband if they like through the information your phone sends to them as you use it. Also they still have stuff like Carrier IQ on phones that COULD even read you your text messages if they wanted. Dont think they cant see it because they can. They just dont let you know they can because it could be considered illegal.
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They can see your radio version every time you connect to their towers, They can see your software/kernel/baseband if they like through the information your phone sends to them as you use it. Also they still have stuff like Carrier IQ on phones that COULD even read you your text messages if they wanted. Dont think they cant see it because they can. They just dont let you know they can because it could be considered illegal.
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This is BS because if that's the case they would have made me pay full price on two different occasions for phones that were rooted when I sent them back.
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They can see your radio version every time you connect to their towers, They can see your software/kernel/baseband if they like through the information your phone sends to them as you use it. Also they still have stuff like Carrier IQ on phones that COULD even read you your text messages if they wanted. Dont think they cant see it because they can. They just dont let you know they can because it could be considered illegal.
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Seeing the radio version doesn't tell any carrier that someone is rooted. Being rooted is software related not radio related. Not unless custom radios are around, which is not available for the tbolt and im sure not for any other phone for that matter.
The only info phones send to the network is account information so the tower knows whether or not to provide service. That's it.
If they knew more details about a device then they would have no reason to ask us about our phone. They wouldn't waste their time as the info would pop up on their computer screens. If they saw anything other than the latest official OTA, then they would tell you that they can't do anything and that you voided your warranty so even switching back to stock won't make them change their mind.
The fact they would "waste" time to find out every detail from you pretty much sums up that this info is NOT available to them. CSRs like to help the customer as quickly as possible to get them off the line and help the next. And at this moment, asking customers about their phones is the quickest way.
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So you think that those little forum signatures that can tell you what OS you are running, what browser and even your IP know more about your phone than your carrier?
Must be nice to be that gullible.
Think what you will, I know for a fact they can see the information. They literally don't care. The warranty is through another company and has nothing to do with Verizon. It is also perfectly legal to root your phone and do what you want with it as of July 26 2010 http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/26/rooting-android-phone-longer-crime/
The only thing it does is void any extended warranty you bought. So do restore to stock for returns to asurion and the likes.
They ask you because the lower tier CS people do not have access to your phone information, if you are escalated enough you will eventually find someone who can and will rattle off all your information to you.
If you can provide proof then I will take back what I said and apologize. I've played dumb before in the past just to see if it was possible for tier 2 and 3 (technical departments) to know this information. I simply stated that I didn't know how to access the about phone section. They tried to "help" me access this section and i pretended I was getting frustrated. I asked them to see if there was a way for them to see it on their systems and they told me no. They couldn't "help" me with my pretend issue unless I gave them this info. So all I was given was generic troubleshooting tips. They then stated to take it to the store for the CSR to look at my phone for the software version. I did this on a couple of occasions just to get a different Rep each time.
Yes, your mobile browser sends browser info to a website, and OS info. User agent strings are sent so that a website will know how to display the website on the browser. You can easily set the user agent to the stock HTC user agent. But this is irrelevant to Verizon as I can install different browsers on my phone which have unique user agents for each one. Just because my phone sends a dolphin user agent or maxathon user agent and not the stock HTC user agent, this does not imply I am rooted.
OS version is very easy to hack. You can edit this by going to the build.prop and change the OS version to the stock version and I'm sure there is a hack to fake the kernal (you might have to recompile the kernal to change the name)
All the IP address provides is the owner of the IP address (i.e. verizon) and in some cases, the general location of where the IP is being used. Verizon's LTE/EHRPD network use private IP addresses so it would be difficult to pin point a phone or information based on IP. This network uses Dynamic IPs so your IP will not be the same all the time. You have to pay extra to get a static address (business account). It is illegal to use an IP to gain access to any additional information unless a court order demands this.
The point of this is that you can pretty much make your rooted phone appear stock if it was really necessary to do so. Its a variant of Linux and Linux is very easy to work with if you know what you are doing.
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OS version is very easy to hack. You can edit this by going to the build.prob and change the OS version to the stock version and I'm sure there is a hack to fake the kernal (you might have to recompile the kernal to change the name)
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Yup, does anyone just randomly do this though?
Sorry to cause the topic to get sidetracked like this, I was just trying to point out that Verizon don't care if we root or not.
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Yup, does anyone just randomly do this though?
Sorry to cause the topic to get sidetracked like this, I was just trying to point out that Verizon don't care if we root or not.
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If you can root your phone, then its a start. Your typical average user doesn't know what root means or even care what possibilities exist. I am pretty much the only person at my job who is rooted and I've had people ask me how I got my phone to look a certain way and they want their phone like this. When I explain the root process, they say screw that. Most people I know who are rooted know exactly what they can do with a rooted device. And new comers to rooting eventually pick up speed. Linux may be intimidating at first, but once you play around, you see how easy it is.
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Until now, I still don't understand why Android doesn't have a built-in features for missed calls/sms and reject list to auto decline unwanted calls. My old Galaxy S Fascinate has the reject list feature but not in my Galaxy Nexus.
And I used to use Missed Call Reminder but it doesn't work with Jelly Bean. Sigh! JB is awesome but these simple, yet crucial, features are either missing or hard to find ones that work.
Especially the missed call/SMS features, this is a no brainer feature that even a standard cell phone has it. IOS has it, why Android can't just have it built-in. I just don't get it.
Thoughts anyone?
Ken
Pretty much everyone I know uses the LED notification light for missed calls and texts, since that's what it was made to do.
I personally don't get calls I don't want, but if you like to post your number online and not pay your bills, there are many, many apps available to block calls for you. Or hell, MIUI has it built in. Take your pick.
So what was the problem again?
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Until now, I still don't understand why Android doesn't have a built-in features for missed calls/sms and reject list to auto decline unwanted calls. My old Galaxy S Fascinate has the reject list feature but not in my Galaxy Nexus.
And I used to use Missed Call Reminder but it doesn't work with Jelly Bean. Sigh! JB is awesome but these simple, yet crucial, features are either missing or hard to find ones that work.
Especially the missed call/SMS features, this is a no brainer feature that even a standard cell phone has it. IOS has it, why Android can't just have it built-in. I just don't get it.
Thoughts anyone?
Ken
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I don't know it for sure. but my guess is Apple probably has it patented? From what I understand Google has to deliberately workaround many design challenges so that Android doesn't violate Apple's patents
Apple just filed another lawsuit against Samsung trying to get 22 more phones banned for patent violations. Sigh.
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Apple just filed another lawsuit against Samsung trying to get 22 more phones banned for patent violations. Sigh.
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Samsung can stop the production of iphone screens, and what 22 phones?
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there is any app for almost everything
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Some Roms offer that feature.
Try EXTREME CALL BLOCKER from the market. It's not free but works like I needed it to.
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I don't know it for sure. but my guess is Apple probably has it patented? From what I understand Google has to deliberately workaround many design challenges so that Android doesn't violate Apple's patents
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yeah, you could be right. If that's true, then this is yet another ridiculous patent that got passed. Prior to smartphones, every cell phones have these basic features. Sigh.
I understand the Galaxy Nexus has led indicator but I don't usually stare at my phone all day. So I'm used to hearing a reminder tone of any missed call or text. I guess I just have to wait until developers get up to speed with Jelly Bean.
Find an app for it.
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Find an app for it.
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Hey buddy read my orig. post, I've tried already. Example, I used to use Missed Call Reminder but like most other apps that are similar, it doesn't work with Jelly Bean. The LED part works, but no tone. Feel free to educate me with ones that works with tone notification.
As per the reject call feature, I end up using the contact list method and send them to voicemail. Not 100% whether this method will cost me some minor air time or not but these solicited calls will hang up by itself, as most of these calls use an auto-dialer. It will only transfer to a live agent if the dialer detects a real human voice, as suppose to a voicemail recording. Not as good as just decline the call completely but it will do for now.
Have you tried Mr. Number on the Play Store? I use it.
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iKoolkid said:
Samsung can stop the production of iphone screens, and what 22 phones?
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Sharp is the company making the screens for the iPhone 5 and LG for the iPhone 4s.
Shawn said:
Have you tried Mr. Number on the Play Store? I use it.
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Yes I have but after I read the terms and condition, I don't feel comfortable using it. This app will take all your contacts and store them into their server. Even the paid version does this too. It seems like a very powerful app but I'm not willing to sacrifice my personal information for this feature. I've looked at others and they work similar way. All I want is a similar app that identifies the phone of incoming call and compare it to a local rejected list of numbers. If it matches, then just decline the call. I'm not a developer but I can't imagine that this would be very tough.
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Yes I have but after I read the terms and condition, I don't feel comfortable using it. This app will take all your contacts and store them into their server. Even the paid version does this too. It seems like a very powerful app but I'm not willing to sacrifice my personal information for this feature. I've looked at others and they work similar way. All I want is a similar app that identifies the phone of incoming call and compare it to a local rejected list of numbers. If it matches, then just decline the call. I'm not a developer but I can't imagine that this would be very tough.
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I think the only way it stores your contacts is if you use the caller id, which I don't use.
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My biggest ponderment is why the default keyboard is so horrible. SwiftKey is so much better
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Android is pure, other vendors ( HTC, Samsung and etc.) throw their own little twist on Android. Anything Nexus is pure Google Android.
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One of the reasons I left iphone was over so many missing essentials.
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Sharp is the company making the screens for the iPhone 5 and LG for the iPhone 4s.
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Well samsung I think made the iPad screens
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One of the reasons I left iphone was over so many missing essentials.
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I've heard both sides make that argument. I'm Android through & through, but apple makes a compelling ecosystem. People always say "It just works..." but at what cost? There are apps for everything in both IOS & Android worlds, but as far as I'm concerned, there's less big brother restricting what I can do with my android. Sure, there's some more work at times, but it's completely worth the effort not to be stuck with someone else deciding what apps I can install, and how I have to use my phone.
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Sure, there's some more work at times, but it's completely worth the effort not to be stuck with someone else deciding what apps I can install, and how I have to use my phone.
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I know I feel stuck when I get a phone with carrier branded apps that I can't remove. Do you see a difference between these two practices? It seems to me if one wants full control of their phone, one must jailbreak or root. Do you agree or disagree?
This is my first HTC device and the first time on Verizon, coming from the nexus line. So far, of course loving the build quality! So, so, so good! But my question is very simple and just an annoyance, maybe there's nothing to fix this. Group messaging works perfect, nothing wrong with it, its just every time I click on the conversation it says converting to MMS, I don't care that its doing that, but the message that pops up every time is starting to annoy me... Is there any fix for this? Couldn't find anything in the settings
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This is my first HTC device and the first time on Verizon, coming from the nexus line. So far, of course loving the build quality! So, so, so good! But my question is very simple and just an annoyance, maybe there's nothing to fix this. Group messaging works perfect, nothing wrong with it, its just every time I click on the conversation it says converting to MMS, I don't care that its doing that, but the message that pops up every time is starting to annoy me... Is there any fix for this? Couldn't find anything in the settings
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What are you using for text messaging??
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What are you using for text messaging??
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Not the Verizon one, but stock one that comes with HTC. I'm use to hangouts cause coming from nexus and I didn't mind that at all. Reason I'm not using the Verizon messaging app is cause the rep at Verizon was messing with my phone while the number was being ported and basically setting it up for me cause he has an m8, said he was saving me a few headaches
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Just go back to using Hangouts. That is what I use, no problems at all.
Don't use any of the verizon crappy apps, lol
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Haha yea I hear ya. I usually try to give stock apps a chance before I change over to replacement app, such as hangouts. Wish you could customize the colors like the stock messaging app but oh well
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Not the Verizon one, but stock one that comes with HTC. I'm use to hangouts cause coming from nexus and I didn't mind that at all. Reason I'm not using the Verizon messaging app is cause the rep at Verizon was messing with my phone while the number was being ported and basically setting it up for me cause he has an m8, said he was saving me a few headaches
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More likely that VZW rep is responsible for your current headache! :laugh:
Go back to the store and ask what he messed up!