Do you think build quality will get better? Should I wait? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So... I purchased the nexus 5 and had some quality issues so I returned it and picked up a moto x off craigslist. My nexus had the loose power button, weak speaker, poor battery life and low/loud vibration (noise when typing and couldnt feel it ring in my pocket).
Now... I have the moto x and think its a great phone (added features are very useful and build quality is amazing) .. But.. I miss the larger screen, wireless charging, wifi hotspot and unlockable bootloader. I think I could live with the battery life if the quality issues were taken care of (and yes, I understand no phone will be perfect)
So.. The question(s) . 1)Do you believe that these issues will be fixed as demand beings to drop (or ever)? 2)Were there similar quirks when the n4 initially released? 3)If so, were they taken care of? 4)Would you wait if you were in my shoes?

the green man said:
So... I purchased the nexus 5 and had some quality issues so I returned it and picked up a moto x off craigslist. My nexus had the loose power button, weak speaker, poor battery life and low/loud vibration (noise when typing and couldnt feel it ring in my pocket).
Now... I have the moto x and think its a great phone (added features are very useful and build quality is amazing) .. But.. I miss the larger screen, wireless charging, wifi hotspot and unlockable bootloader. I think I could live with the battery life if the quality issues were taken care of (and yes, I understand no phone will be perfect)
So.. The question(s) . 1)Do you believe that these issues will be fixed as demand beings to drop (or ever)? 2)Were there similar quirks when the n4 initially released? 3)If so, were they taken care of? 4)Would you wait if you were in my shoes?
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Mine doesn't have any of those issues.

I don't either.
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lafester said:
Mine doesn't have any of those issues.
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Seems like many others do. Would like some consistency and not have to go through the RMA process if i run into the issues again.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509455
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2552565
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509455
There are threads dedicated to these issues. Not saying all have them, but it seems many do. And I guess some are a matter of opinion (mainly speaker and vibration) but for me they were very poor.

If you know how to root and install custom recoveries and kernels, all the problems you addressed except for the power button will be resolved. I had the same issue and I catering a custom ROM did the trick
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I find the speaker embarrassing. Everyone else's phone has nice crystal clear notification sounds, then there's the Nexus 5!! Just look at peoples faces when they hear the low muffled and distorted chimes of your bbm sound for example.
If a batch comes out that fixes the speaker I'll be rma'ing for sure.

the green man said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509455
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2552565
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509455
There are threads dedicated to these issues. Not saying all have them, but it seems many do. And I guess some are a matter of opinion (mainly speaker and vibration) but for me they were very poor.
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I don't have any of those problems either. My household has 4 Nexus 5's and not a single problem. I have already 7 friends who purchased Nexus 5's and not a single problem.
I know it's annoying for me to report 11 devices with no problems and yours did but it seems to me the phone is worth it. Sounds to me there are more with no issues than there are phones with issues.

Does anyone know if there were similar issues with the N4? If so, were they fixed once demand dropped?

What can you expect out of a $350 dollar phone? it sucks buy a higher end device if u want better build quality

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My initial opinions of the Inspire 4G

I just got the Inspire 4G the other day at an HTC conference. (Work related)
For years I've used an iPhone for my primary device. I'm no stranger to Android. I've had a Nexus One and a Samsung Captivate. The inspire in the best android phone I have used yet.
The Captivate is an aweful phone. A GPS that works when it wants to, FoYo that never arrived....etc... I installed a custom ROM (Cognition) and it brought new life to the phone and was a better experience, but I am of the opinion that I shouldn't have to use custom ROMs to make the phone work the way it is supposed to or to have the latest software when it should have already been available. Who knows when FoYo does come out for the captivate if it will be any good or will it still be better to use a custom ROM. On the Inspire I feel as if I don't need to run a custom ROM because it is great the way it is.....so far.
Two issues I did notice with the Inspire that I have verified that others I know with the phone are having as well.
1) The call quality is horrible! It's very treblely and just sounds terrible.
2) The external speaker is definately not loud enough. That seems to be a trait of HTC phones and cheap, low quality speakers.
For example on point #2. I have my own customer ringtones and sound effects for text and emails, which are the same ones I used on my iPhone. I wear my phone in a leather pouch on my belt. I can hardly hear when I get a text or the phone is ringing. Thankfully I have it set to vibrate at the same time, and if I didn't feel it vibrate I would never know I am getting a text or a call. That is very annoying. Especially when it is worn on my belt, I should be able to hear it. I don't know if this can be fixed via a software upgrade or if it is just cheap parts.
On my iPhone, if my phone is downstairs and I am upstairs, I can clearly hear loudly when I get a text or call. The iPhone has a much better speaker.
The Inspire is a very fast phone as far as the OS goes. The internet is also faster, it seems like the phone is connecting to AT&T's imitation 4G service. The battery life isn't that great though.
I am disappointed that AT&T decided to remove the front facing camera. Also it seems like the phone isn't as thick as the EVO, although it does have some good weight to it. It definately does NOT feel cheap.
The Hot Spot feature works pretty good, although I just briefly played with it.
Well that's my brief opinion for the moment. The phone is really nice, but the external speaker volume issue might force me to go back to my iPhone for primary use and knock my Inspire back to secondary play phone.
Awesome, I can't wait.
hmmm i have read a few reviews that said call quality is awesome, Mobiletech review and infosync come to mind, maybe its just some handsets
AndreaCristiano said:
hmmm i have read a few reviews that said call quality is awesome, Mobiletech review and infosync come to mind, maybe its just some handsets
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I dunno, maybe they have hearing issues. But many people I've talked to that went to the same conference that I did that also got phones made the same comments I did. Bad call quality and dretful speaker volume.
Also on a a differnet note, I used to date a girl from Manapalan years ago. I would have done anything for her back in the day. Something about Jersey girls.
chocodough said:
I dunno, maybe they have hearing issues. But many people I've talked to that went to the same conference that I did that also got phones made the same comments I did. Bad call quality and dretful speaker volume.
Also on a a differnet note, I used to date a girl from Manapalan years ago. I would have done anything for her back in the day. Something about Jersey girls.
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really how old are you?? LOL small world!
chocodough said:
I am disappointed that AT&T decided to remove the front facing camera. Also it seems like the phone isn't as thick as the EVO, although it does have some good weight to it. It definately does NOT feel cheap.
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This model (Desire HD) never had a front camera... wasn't AT&T's doing.
I just cant decide if I wanna give up my i4 for this. I wanna buy outright but sometimes I just cant justify that price when I think of other things I could buy for that amount of money. The front facing camera doesnt bother me because I have had an i4 since launch and used it maybe 4 times. I just worry about size and the speaker volume. I know that overtime with roms that can be fixed so not so worried about that. My options now are to sell wait for someone to sell and the get a new itouch for the ios fix. Sorry but imo itunes just works for me, the only phone I've used as an audio device would be my iphone. I just really like android and flashing and always having the latest on it and have been back and forth since the g1. I just sometimes dont like all the time it takes away from life having to read up all the time or keep up with the latest. Anyways enough rambling just my thoughts.
cmstlist said:
This model (Desire HD) never had a front camera... wasn't AT&T's doing.
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The only time I've used my front camera is to see if there is food in my teeth, so I don't think I'll miss not having a front camera.
Great input. I have a Captivate running a custom ROM. It was trash til I did so. Now call quality, gps, speaker and camera are great. And bigger battery. It all works bit I miss Sense.
Do you think the inspire is a better device all round when compared to a flashed captivate?
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No worries on the low volume problem, TEST THIS ON YOUR DEVICES AND COMMENT PLEASE
An easy fix for the low external speaker volume is this app, created by the infamous Meltus from xda.
Its a must if indeed the speaker is low:
---->> http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-automod-jmiC.aspx
or
DSP Manager
---->>> http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-apps-games/134633-dsp-manager-equalizer-android-2-2-a.html
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Do you think the inspire is a better device all round when compared to a flashed captivate?
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Yes I definately think it's a better device. Sure the Captivate is a good device when using a custom rom, but I'm of the opinion that you shouldn't need to run a custom rom to make the device work the way it is ment to. Plus when you run a customer rom is just has the feel of being pieced together from various parts and not really a complete experience.
HTC sense does make a world of difference. It is more than just an overlay like Touchwiz or Launcher Pro...etc... I used to be a diehard pure stock android experience, but Sense won me over. It adds so much to the device.
But the two issues I originally mentioned are a problem though. The tinny call quality and the low external speaker volume are things to take into consideration. It's terrible when you can't even hear the phone ring when it's on your hip. So far I've missed calls and SMS if my phone is in one room of my house and I am in another, whereas I could hear my iPhone even if I am upstairs and my phone is downstairs.
Today I emailed our area HTC rep and told her the problems that I and others are having and she is passing the info up the ladder. I said to her that I find it odd that HTC's quality control didn't notice the crappy speaker on the device and that I couldn't recommend the phone to my customers at this time until I hear of a resolution to the problems.
So although I love the Inspire and think it's a very good phone, I would hold off buying it until there is a bug fix or something to the speaker problems. I might have to go back to my iPhone 4 for the time being until HTC fixes the phone.
Before anyone makes a decisions on buying it, you might want to wait until the Motorola Atrix comes and compare the two.
After spending a day with the Inspire I promptly ditched my iP4. I also have a Captivate running Cognition and it just gets destroyed by the Inspire. I haven't been able to test battery life, but I know what I'm in for in that department.
The Inspire is quite simply very fast. Ran Quadrant to compare to other phones I've had this year as well. My Captivate running Cognition gets about 1500, while the Inspire was around 1900 each time. I've never used a phone that blew through that benchmark so fast. Neocore got around 57fps so that's very solid as well. GPS connected quickly, but I only tested it outdoors as that's where I would generally use it. Speaker is a bit weak, but sound is pretty fantastic through headphones. YouTube video played smooth and looked amazing. It's a much better YouTube experience than the iP4 imo.
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it seems like the phone is connecting to AT&T's imitation 4G service.
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Seriously? No carrier is using true 4g. HSPA+ is considered 4g now; Just look at T-Mobile.
Can anyone compare the speakers to a nexus one? Same question for battery life, granted it may be a little early for that.
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Can anyone compare the speakers to a nexus one? Same question for battery life, granted it may be a little early for that.
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I used to have a Nexus One last year, and always thought the external speaker was horrible on that also, but it was a bit louder than the Inspire.
Although I didn't think the call quality of the N1 was bad. The call quality is horrible on the Inspire, whether through the earpiece or the speaker phone.
HTC Inspire 4G vs Motorola Atrix 4G
chocodough said:
I just got the Inspire 4G the other day at an HTC conference. (Work related)
For years I've used an iPhone for my primary device. I'm no stranger to Android. I've had a Nexus One and a Samsung Captivate. The inspire in the best android phone I have used yet.
The Captivate is an aweful phone. A GPS that works when it wants to, FoYo that never arrived....etc... I installed a custom ROM (Cognition) and it brought new life to the phone and was a better experience, but I am of the opinion that I shouldn't have to use custom ROMs to make the phone work the way it is supposed to or to have the latest software when it should have already been available. Who knows when FoYo does come out for the captivate if it will be any good or will it still be better to use a custom ROM. On the Inspire I feel as if I don't need to run a custom ROM because it is great the way it is.....so far.
Two issues I did notice with the Inspire that I have verified that others I know with the phone are having as well.
1) The call quality is horrible! It's very treblely and just sounds terrible.
2) The external speaker is definately not loud enough. That seems to be a trait of HTC phones and cheap, low quality speakers.
For example on point #2. I have my own customer ringtones and sound effects for text and emails, which are the same ones I used on my iPhone. I wear my phone in a leather pouch on my belt. I can hardly hear when I get a text or the phone is ringing. Thankfully I have it set to vibrate at the same time, and if I didn't feel it vibrate I would never know I am getting a text or a call. That is very annoying. Especially when it is worn on my belt, I should be able to hear it. I don't know if this can be fixed via a software upgrade or if it is just cheap parts.
On my iPhone, if my phone is downstairs and I am upstairs, I can clearly hear loudly when I get a text or call. The iPhone has a much better speaker.
The Inspire is a very fast phone as far as the OS goes. The internet is also faster, it seems like the phone is connecting to AT&T's imitation 4G service. The battery life isn't that great though.
I am disappointed that AT&T decided to remove the front facing camera. Also it seems like the phone isn't as thick as the EVO, although it does have some good weight to it. It definately does NOT feel cheap.
The Hot Spot feature works pretty good, although I just briefly played with it.
Well that's my brief opinion for the moment. The phone is really nice, but the external speaker volume issue might force me to go back to my iPhone for primary use and knock my Inspire back to secondary play phone.
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Based on your experiences so far, how would you rank the Inspire 4G to the Motorola Atrix? I'm waiting to make up my mind on my next upgrade. The battery life and front facing camera are really hard for me to get past, but I'm not a major fan of Motoblur either (although I know the Tegra 2 processors should handle that ok).
Great write-ups guys, that's good information to hear. Concerning the speeds compared to other phones, remember that you're using a new phone and comparing it to other phones that are bogged down by applications and data files.
Back a few weeks ago I thought my captivate was fast Oced at 1.2. I rooted to install a newer version of the ROM, master cleaned it, and it was even faster stock than it was OCed before.
Exactly my worry. We've put all the work into the Captivate only to buy an inferior phone out of the box...
ekerbuddyeker said:
Great input. I have a Captivate running a custom ROM. It was trash til I did so. Now call quality, gps, speaker and camera are great. And bigger battery. It all works bit I miss Sense.
Do you think the inspire is a better device all round when compared to a flashed captivate?
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Depressing. Unlike many people, I value excellent call quality above being able to get a 5m gps fix in 10 seconds. The captivate does have the former going for it...
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I used to have a Nexus One last year, and always thought the external speaker was horrible on that also, but it was a bit louder than the Inspire.
Although I didn't think the call quality of the N1 was bad. The call quality is horrible on the Inspire, whether through the earpiece or the speaker phone.
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I've only made a couple of calls on mine, but they sounded just fine. Certainly not horrible.

Comparison between G2X and Sensation based on real world experience

Yesterday, I purchased a HTC Sensation from Walmart. I spent the day comparing it to my G2X (which I still have) and decided to see how the phones stack up against each other. The following are my observations:
Screen: I think this one comes down to preference. It's a hard call saying which one looks better than the other. The Sensation did not have any backlight bleeding (my G2X has minimal bleeding). When looking at the same picture on both phones side by side, the G2X seemed to be brighter. The viewing angles on the Sensation were not as extreme as on the G2X, but they were fine (unless your were looking at it from an extreme unnatural angle lol)
Performance: After having used a G2X since it came out, it took a little bit of getting used to the way the Sensation performs. That's not to say it's slow by any means (because it isn't), it just performs differently than the G2X. The Sensation has a lot of transition animations that the G2X doesn't have and this can make it feel slower than the G2X. For example, when you hit the home button on the G2X it takes you straight to the launcher, whereas when you hit the home button on the Sensation it fades into the launcher which takes about a split second longer. After a while I turned the animations setting on "some animations" because I prefer the snappiness of not having so many transitions than having all the eye candy. Of course this is just a personal preference. I'm sure there are plenty of people who will appreciate the eye candy. In using the phone I did not experience any slowdowns or lag. The phone was very responsive. All in all, I'd say both phones are on par with each other when it comes to responsiveness.
Sound: The Sensation wins this one easily. The sound on the G2X is very tinny and gets easily somewhat distorted. While the speakers on the Sensation aren't as good as some phones I've had (such as the Nexus S) they are definitely a higher quality than that of the G2X. The G2X does get a little bit louder than the Sensation, but it's sound quality is not on the same level.
Camera: The camera on the Sensation definitely responds faster than that of the G2X. As far as clarity goes, both phones take pretty decent pictures. I don't really see a world of difference between the two phones. I am pretty satisfied with the cameras on both phones.
Battery Life: Since I have only had the Sensation for one day I can't really speak to in depth on it's battery life. That being said, I will say this, I took the phone off of the charger with the battery around 80%ish and I had 3 hours of phone conversation, about 10 minutes shy of two hours of screen on time, push exchange email, facebook syncing, texting, and web browsing and the battery lasted me a little over 6 hours. This leads me to believe that the battery life on the Sensation is better than that of the G2X. My G2X in the same scenario would have died out much sooner than that.
Conclusion: It's hard for me to say which phone is "better". If you were trying to decide on a phone that was ready to go today, I would say go with the Sensation. Though I've only had it for a day, I did play with it extensively and I did not find any bugs. On my first day of having the G2X, I had already had multiple reboots and freezing. The Sense UI is a bit of an adjustment when coming from vanilla android but it is definitely very nice and very well implemented. The one gripe that I do have with the Sensation is that for some reason it doesn't seem to support bluetooth voice dialing natively. I noticed the leaked G2X gingerbread rom has the same problem so I'm not sure if it's a gingerbread problem or what. Hopefully this thread helps those that might be on the fence between the two phones. If there is anything that I missed that you want to know, just let me know.
Nice review
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Thanks for the great review. I have been considering purchasing a Sensation to go with my G2X. AFter reading a lot of reviews I had decided against it. After reading your review I am back on the fence again as to whether to buy it off contract or not.lol Would be interested in your findings after about a week . Once again thanks for posting an honest objective review!!!!!
Have you tried the death grip on this? Supposedly covering the back of the phone with your palm kills all the radio signals.
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mobilehavoc said:
Have you tried the death grip on this? Supposedly covering the back of the phone with your palm kills all the radio signals.
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Yeah I've tried to replicate it but really couldn't. Now if I deliberately cover the phone in a way to intentionally block the signal then yeah you can lose signal, but of course that is true on every phone lol. I think whoever decided that to be an "issue" might have been someone just looking to fine problems, because I don't see any way possible you could unintentionally do that.
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Yeah I've tried to replicate it but really couldn't. Now if I deliberately cover the phone in a way to intentionally block the signal then yeah you can lose signal, but of course that is true on every phone lol. I think whoever decided that to be an "issue" might have been someone just looking to fine problems, because I don't see any way possible you could unintentionally do that.
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I don't actually believe you can do it with every phone to the same extent. Like the iPhone 4 with the Sensation, your skin comes into direct contact with the antenna (or at least the cover which houses it) which causes MORE attenuation then say the G2X.
In the G2X the antenna is inside the phone and then there's a battery cover between it and your hands so your skin/hands NEVER touch the antenna. With the Sensation your fingers touch the antenna (exact issue as iPhone 4) so it will cause a disruption to your signal greater than the G2X.
Even if I cover my G2X completely with a deathgrip I don't see anything close to the results that gsmarena video shows. Not saying this is a dealbreaker but don't fool yourself to say this isn't a possible problem depending on how you hold your phone.
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I don't actually believe you can do it with every phone to the same extent. Like the iPhone 4 with the Sensation, your skin comes into direct contact with the antenna (or at least the cover which houses it) which causes MORE attenuation then say the G2X.
In the G2X the antenna is inside the phone and then there's a battery cover between it and your hands so your skin/hands NEVER touch the antenna. With the Sensation your fingers touch the antenna (exact issue as iPhone 4) so it will cause a disruption to your signal greater than the G2X.
Even if I cover my G2X completely with a deathgrip I don't see anything close to the results that gsmarena video shows. Not saying this is a dealbreaker but don't fool yourself to say this isn't a possible problem depending on how you hold your phone.
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The Sensation death grip is supposedly only for WiFi and Bluetooth (the two holes near the camera). Every report I've seen indicates the cell radio is not impacted...at least that is my understanding.
Well now it's a deathgrip thread. Wack.
Great review.
Gotta say I did like the sensation. It's a tad heavier then the g2x and I really liked that.
I only got to play with one for a minute but I loved the screen. I think it's got a really nice screen.
I did notice lag. The app drawer did have a slight delay before it would open.
Not a the fade out effect it does. Also the weather app was nice. Really like that.
But my g2x is faster.
Really that's all. The g2x is just as nice feeling.
Now the kicker.
I would just use adw ex on either phone. And I love the speed of the g2x.
Either phone would make me happy. But until I get gingerbread on my g2x is can't give an honest opinion.
Because my g2x is faster on 2.2. Has no issues but screen bleed. That never bothers me
So when 2.3 drops.
I was actually looking at the evo 3d now.
I may have to check it out.
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mobilehavoc said:
Have you tried the death grip on this? Supposedly covering the back of the phone with your palm kills all the radio signals.
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I would think even if the death grip exists, the vast majority of superphone owners use a protective case, so that should really never be a major issue.
To the OP.... thanks a BUNCH for your real world comparison! That's exactly the kind of info I needed. I'll still be within my exchange window when the Sensation hits T-Mo stores on the 15th and I'm still undecided if I want to return my G2X. The screen size and resolution of the Sensation is very appealing to me
I don't know, I'm hearing that there are quite a few problems with the Sensation. A buddy of mine got one yesterday and his is locking up and randomly rebooting on him. He's had problems with the GPS locking on and also says the audio leaves a lot to be desired.
Also, if you go to the Sensation forum here on XDA you can see that people are reporting various problems. One that concerns me is several people are reporting that dust particles are getting in behind their screens. That's not cool at all...
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The Sensation death grip is supposedly only for WiFi and Bluetooth (the two holes near the camera). Every report I've seen indicates the cell radio is not impacted...at least that is my understanding.
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Here's a direct comparison against the SGS2. The phone signal is effected but not to the degree Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are. You'll need to use Google Translate.
http://www.nordichardware.se/testla...tungviktare-med-hoeg-upploesning.html?start=8
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The one gripe that I do have with the Sensation is that for some reason it doesn't seem to support bluetooth voice dialing natively.
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What's your definition of "natively?" From the Bluetooth headset without an intermediate app like Google Voice?
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What's your definition of "natively?" From the Bluetooth headset without an intermediate app like Google Voice?
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I mean without the need for a 3rd party app (such as Vlingo).
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I mean without the need for a 3rd party app (such as Vlingo).
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I still don't understand. So, you push the connectivity button on your headset, what do you want to happen?
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I still don't understand. So, you push the connectivity button on your headset, what do you want to happen?
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Basically what I expect it to do is go into the bluetooth voice dialing prompt (like it does on the G2X). I don't really want to have to use Vlingo.
hows the wifi calling
Im good with my G2X I need a Gyroscope for future gaming and 1 gig rom wont cut it and I hate quadrant on the snapdragon but sensation is a great device but so many hardware woes no Gyroscope people keep not pointing out witch is on the iPhone 4 and galaxy s 2 and LG 2X only.
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Basically what I expect it to do is go into the bluetooth voice dialing prompt (like it does on the G2X). I don't really want to have to use Vlingo.
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Someone posted the fix. That's why I didn't understand what you were trying to do. Kind of stupid on HTC's part.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117912
Having left T-mo with a MT4G to go to *SpRent with the EVO4G and now back with the Mo I was looking for a HTC-ish device. The G2x was the common ground I decided on. I still own 2 Evo4g's (hustler plug) and have been waiting for this Sensation of a deal for T-Mo. Your review seems legit and non biased. Would like to hear what happens within a month of usage though.
"Y a month?" because within in that time, to me, you will have done what ever type of testing (unknowingly) there is to do with the device repeatedly in the many environments you frequent. And been able to post its abilities against the G2x under any and all situations you normally face.
See you in the Future
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hows the wifi calling
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I've only used the wifi calling a few times so far, but I will say it's been stable.
In other news: I've noticed that the bluetooth signal strength is not as strong as on the G2X. With my G2X I could put the phone on the charger and go upstairs or go outside and get as far as the driveway. With the Sensation I get about half the range that I was getting with the G2X.

[Q] potential Sensation user-Critical question. To buy or not to buy?

Hello to everybody in the communtity!
I am interested in buying this device. However, after spending 2 hours reading through the touch screen responsiveness problem in the Sensation General thread, I became hesitant and skeptic to purchase it. Can you say anything that will alleviate and mitigate my fears? Is it safe to buy 100% or will I have to replace it after a month or so? Do I have to ask the seller for a specific model that does not have the aforementioned issues?
Thank you in advance for aiding me in the quest to replace my crappy Samsung Omnia which I solemnly detest
Well I use to have the problem but only sometimes when swyping screens.I no longer have it and had totaly forgotten about it I doubt the problem is still present in new batches. But my phone is very responsive now
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Is it because you used some kind of fix for the screen, or it just magically disappeared?
even if there is 10% chance I get the problem it's a no-deal for me. I cannot invest that much money to a flagship top-tier phone if it instantly malfunctions... Can anybody else alleviate my concerns?
Its a great phone. If by chance you do end up in the 10 percent their is a fix on the forums some where you just have to do a search. I would say get the phone from the support in these forums.
32 custom built roms and counting. Noob proof step by step rooting and unlocking. Uncountable ways to modify the phone. Every phone has its problems, but I can honestly say that I haven't found a problem that didn't have a fix on these forums.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA App
HJ nan said:
even if there is 10% chance I get the problem it's a no-deal for me. I cannot invest that much money to a flagship top-tier phone if it instantly malfunctions... Can anybody else alleviate my concerns?
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Tell them you want try out the phone you want to buy before you pay for it.
I never suffered any kind of problem from the screen being unresponsive, but the only problem (if you wish to call it a problem, in my case it's not) is the slightly weak WiFi signal, if I am 2 rooms away from the router the signal drop significantly, and there is creaking on the bottom right of the phone other than that the phone is perfect, most ppl changed their back cover and the creaking sound was gone.
The Radius Kid said:
Tell them you want try out the phone you want to buy before you pay for it.
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Yes but the reports on the touchscreen issue mention that it starts occurring after a week or so
Any further feedback?? I am looking for a reliable handset... should I go to an alternate device?
Brilliant device, didn't have any problems with it.
I was also sceptic, but when i bought it, all my prejudices disappeard..
HJ nan said:
even if there is 10% chance I get the problem it's a no-deal for me. I cannot invest that much money to a flagship top-tier phone if it instantly malfunctions... Can anybody else alleviate my concerns?
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its a risk one has to take mate,
i know a few of my friends have to return their iPhone4 due to various hardware defects.
nothing is perfect in the smartphone world sadly
but it makes our life easier with a community such as XDA
so welcome
My advice...Buy! Or go and read at the Samsung Galaxy S2 tread and read about that phone...you only read the negative items/ problems here...
About every phone you can read tons of info, at the end of the day you will be confused which phone to buy as they all suffer from little probems.
There are a lot of Sensation owners out there who are happy with their phone and dont have problems with it...I am one of them!
Have my sensation almost 4 weeks now...its rooted, S-off and I got rid of the Orange rom!
As already stated in this tread, if you have problems with your device you will find a solution here at XDA...
No problems here either, had since June no issues at all. Great phone.
HJ nan said:
Any further feedback?? I am looking for a reliable handset... should I go to an alternate device?
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If the WiFi weakness gonna be a problem for you then I suggest another handset if not then sensation got all u r looking and hoping for
Great phone coming from a G2x and I'm really happy with my Sensation.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G Running Bulletproof
You shouldn't buy it because as technology goes something always comes out better a month later. I haven't had problems and I think it's a excellent phone but you should look for what's about to come out next.
You do know you get a one year manufacturers warranty with a new phone, right?
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA App
Jedi2011 said:
You do know you get a one year manufacturers warranty with a new phone, right?
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA App
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Yeah I guess there is warranty but I read that HTC does not recognize that problem. And even then, in Greece HTC service is not that good with a single service center in the whole country and huge delays in product replacement...
HJ nan said:
Yeah I guess there is warranty but I read that HTC does not recognize that problem. And even then, in Greece HTC service is not that good with a single service center in the whole country and huge delays in product replacement...
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I would say do not buy the HTC Sensation.
It has to many serious flaws/issues for a flagship phone and yes, in my opinion the issues on the Sensation is more frequent then on other models.
I read alot in here and also among Swedish Android forums and I've owned not less than 3 faulty Sensations in about a weeks time till I gave up and asked for a refund instead. The Sensation is a sloppy job from HTC in mine (and MANY others) opinion.
The biggest issues seems to be:
1. Dust under the screen (one of mine was switched because of that. Appeared after about 2 days of use. In an office enviroment.)
2. Unresponsive touchscreen issues/Grounding problems.
3. A battery cover that does'nt fit the phone to well. Makes creaking sounds and makes the vibrator sound like a dying cat (one of mine had that one to). And seriously? Who in the world want to use a "fix" (read: put a folded post-it note between the phone and the cover to make it tighter) on there 4-500$ phone!
4. Issues with the hardware buttons, loose, unresponsive etc. (Had that one aswell. The volumerocker almost fell off)
5. The "wifi-deathgrip". This one I've never experienced!
6. Bad microphone/s and/or crackling speaker. An big issue amongst many it seems.
Ok so there you have my opinion
Trust me, I TRIED to love the Sensation. I've ALWAYS liked HTC phones. But this time, for a flagship phone, I think they've messed up.
Every phone has it's problems, thats for sure though. It just seems to me that the Sensation has a higher frequency in there troubles with this specifik phone and I just don't have time for homemade fixes, returning device after device etc. Especially not for a newer phone as expensive as this one.
For a phone that lives on it's "well built" reputation, I demand more. Sure the Sensation FEELS well built and sturdy, but thats just the feeling. The whole "uni" design just seems to vulnarable......
Well atleast now you got another opinion!
Aja82 said:
I would say do not buy the HTC Sensation.
It has to many serious flaws/issues for a flagship phone and yes, in my opinion the issues on the Sensation is more frequent then on other models.
I read alot in here and also among Swedish Android forums and I've owned not less than 3 faulty Sensations in about a weeks time till I gave up and asked for a refund instead. The Sensation is a sloppy job from HTC in mine (and MANY others) opinion.
The biggest issues seems to be:
1. Dust under the screen (one of mine was switched because of that. Appeared after about 2 days of use. In an office enviroment.)
2. Unresponsive touchscreen issues/Grounding problems.
3. A battery cover that does'nt fit the phone to well. Makes creaking sounds and makes the vibrator sound like a dying cat (one of mine had that one to). And seriously? Who in the world want to use a "fix" (read: put a folded post-it note between the phone and the cover to make it tighter) on there 4-500$ phone!
4. Issues with the hardware buttons, loose, unresponsive etc. (Had that one aswell. The volumerocker almost fell off)
5. The "wifi-deathgrip". This one I've never experienced!
6. Bad microphone/s and/or crackling speaker. An big issue amongst many it seems.
Ok so there you have my opinion
Trust me, I TRIED to love the Sensation. I've ALWAYS liked HTC phones. But this time, for a flagship phone, I think they've messed up.
Every phone has it's problems, thats for sure though. It just seems to me that the Sensation has a higher frequency in there troubles with this specifik phone and I just don't have time for homemade fixes, returning device after device etc. Especially not for a newer phone as expensive as this one.
For a phone that lives on it's "well built" reputation, I demand more. Sure the Sensation FEELS well built and sturdy, but thats just the feeling. The whole "uni" design just seems to vulnarable......
Well atleast now you got another opinion!
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What phone do you use now Aja?
Thanks to everybody for their useful responses and their sincerity! Keep 'em coming...

Should I buy the HTC ONE S ?

Hi.
I need your help. I'm confused about that device because I read about his problems (For example: THE Sensitive button).
And about his poor battery life which can't survive for one full day..
And that I can get only 10GB of RAM, so I can't put much apps/movies/music/photos.
And I hope that it doesn't get too hot in heavy / easy use.
But I still like this model.
I'm wondering if I should buy this model or to buy Galaxy s2 / something else.
(I don't want big screen - 4.3 is enough for me P: )
- Do you recommend me to buy it or to buy something else?
- Please tell me everything you know about this model - the good and the bad
It's really important for me.
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Guys please, soon I have birthday, so I don't have much time
LalyGirl said:
Hi.
I need your help. I'm confused about that device because I read about his problems (For example: THE Sensitive button).
And about his poor battery life which can't survive for one full day..
And that I can get only 10GB of RAM, so I can't put much apps/movies/music/photos.
And I hope that it doesn't get too hot in heavy / easy use.
But I still like this model.
I'm wondering if I should buy this model or to buy Galaxy s2 / something else.
(I don't want big screen - 4.3 is enough for me P: )
- Do you recommend me to buy it or to buy something else?
- Please tell me everything you know about this model - the good and the bad
It's really important for me.
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Battery life - User dependant. Also other factors can impact this such as signal strength, type of data used, screen brightness. Looking at the battery stats thread it seems fine, better than my HOX and that's saying something.
10GB of user space available. 4GB for system & 2GB for apps. Plenty for apps. You have 10gb available to you for music, movies, photos etc. For some this is enough for others not so much. But with the ability to sync items to cloud storage for most it shouldn't be an issue.
Heat - Can't comment, but from various reading it seems cooler than other devices.
Not got the device but comparing to let's say the SGS2 this seems to have a higher resolution screen despite having a pentile screen.
Audio - Read it has one of the cleanest outputs on a mobile device, not heard it personally but it should be fine.
CPU - The S4 is one of the best dual cores around, so much there is a shortage and pretty soon they will switch to the S3. So grab the S4 version whilst you still can. It's plenty fast and outbenches some of the quads out there.
Sense - HTC's overlay, you'll love it or hate it. I love it. Has good contact management, lovely widgets, good for social networking, and such but can be a memory hog.
Camera - HTC has done a good job on the camera front. Like my HOX I like the pictures that it takes and the burst mode is a blessing. The software is also good and easy to use.
LED - This has a notification light, albeit 2 colours only compared to some other devices but at least it has one.
To sum it up it's a good mid range device. And should serve you well. Not having the device myself I'm only giving you my thoughts from reading reviews and taking some parts of my HOX.
nikzDHD said:
Battery life - User dependant. Also other factors can impact this such as signal strength, type of data used, screen brightness. Looking at the battery stats thread it seems fine, better than my HOX and that's saying something.
10GB of user space available. 4GB for system & 2GB for apps. Plenty for apps. You have 10gb available to you for music, movies, photos etc. For some this is enough for others not so much. But with the ability to sync items to cloud storage for most it shouldn't be an issue.
Heat - Can't comment, but from various reading it seems cooler than other devices.
Not got the device but comparing to let's say the SGS2 this seems to have a higher resolution screen despite having a pentile screen.
Audio - Read it has one of the cleanest outputs on a mobile device, not heard it personally but it should be fine.
CPU - The S4 is one of the best dual cores around, so much there is a shortage and pretty soon they will switch to the S3. So grab the S4 version whilst you still can. It's plenty fast and outbenches some of the quads out there.
Sense - HTC's overlay, you'll love it or hate it. I love it. Has good contact management, lovely widgets, good for social networking, and such but can be a memory hog.
Camera - HTC has done a good job on the camera front. Like my HOX I like the pictures that it takes and the burst mode is a blessing. The software is also good and easy to use.
LED - This has a notification light, albeit 2 colours only compared to some other devices but at least it has one.
To sum it up it's a good mid range device. And should serve you well. Not having the device myself I'm only giving you my thoughts from reading reviews and taking some parts of my HOX.
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I like your comment a lot! thank u!
By the way, If I will buy the HTC SENSATION XE and install on it the android 4, it could be better then the HTC ONE S ? Because it has better battery, and I can use memory card.
LalyGirl said:
I like your comment a lot! thank u!
By the way, If I will buy the HTC SENSATION XE and install on it the android 4, it could be better then the HTC ONE S ? Because it has better battery, and I can use memory card.
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I'd say think about longer term, it's an older device. The One S is the newer device and I'd be thinking about Jelly Bean the next android version. One S being newer would more likely be quicker to get it than the XE. It'll have more support from HTC.
Looking at the specs of both phones:
HOS is faster,
HOS reportedly has better battery life,
HOS has better screen in regards to viewing angles and sunlight compared to the first generation SLCD, again this could be subjective,
HOS is thinner and ligther,
HOS has the better camera,
HOS has native Sense 4 support,
HOS has 1gb of RAM compared to XEs 768MB,
You'll enjoy either but if you can I'd opt for the HOS if storage space isn't that important to you.
LalyGirl said:
I like your comment a lot! thank u!
By the way, If I will buy the HTC SENSATION XE and install on it the android 4, it could be better then the HTC ONE S ? Because it has better battery, and I can use memory card.
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I have both the Sensation and One S and there is really no comparison, the One S is much better. I still like my Sensation but the One S is better looking and feeling, has better battery life and a nicer screen, and is much faster.
I haven't had any of the problems that people have reported here (sensitive button, poor reception etc.). Battery life has been good for me so far, and while it does warm up when you're using it heavily it's not "hot" by any means.
The lack of SD slot is not really a problem for me, but whether you can live with it depends on your usage. I've never used more than 4GB of SD card on my Sensation, so the 10GB on board is more than enough.
The only problems I would be concerned about are:
1) Chipping on the black version. I honestly think it's overblown (like most issues with all phones, only people who have problems speak up), but if you are really worried about it get the silver one. It looks even better IMO and it won't chip as the finishing process is different.
2) Getting the 1.7GHz Snapdragon S3 version instead of the 1.5GHz S4. The S3 is the previous generation chip, used in the Sensation, and is slower (despite the higher clock speed, the architecture is different) and uses more power. I don't know if there's a way to tell what you're going to get beforehand, though. Only thing I can think of is if you see "1.7GHz" anywhere on or near it, stay away.
Read my one S review (and all the other posts by me in that thread as well, as I have updated some stuff like wifi speeds and battery life, last update was today, so the last post will be useful for you) in sig and also read my post here addressing your issues/questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
As for the heat, only gets hot when you're charging it, but this is the same for every device, in use for games etc. mine is pretty cold to touch
There is also a video in my last post in the neowin review thread showing a thermal output test comparison between the GS 2, Razr and the S.
nikzDHD said:
I'd say think about longer term, it's an older device. The One S is the newer device and I'd be thinking about Jelly Bean the next android version. One S being newer would more likely be quicker to get it than the XE. It'll have more support from HTC.
Looking at the specs of both phones:
HOS is faster,
HOS reportedly has better battery life,
HOS has better screen in regards to viewing angles and sunlight compared to the first generation SLCD, again this could be subjective,
HOS is thinner and ligther,
HOS has the better camera,
HOS has native Sense 4 support,
HOS has 1gb of RAM compared to XEs 768MB,
You'll enjoy either but if you can I'd opt for the HOS if storage space isn't that important to you.
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Ok so I will stay with the one s.
And how is the speaker of the hos/hox ?
Nick L said:
I have both the Sensation and One S and there is really no comparison, the One S is much better. I still like my Sensation but the One S is better looking and feeling, has better battery life and a nicer screen, and is much faster.
I haven't had any of the problems that people have reported here (sensitive button, poor reception etc.). Battery life has been good for me so far, and while it does warm up when you're using it heavily it's not "hot" by any means.
The lack of SD slot is not really a problem for me, but whether you can live with it depends on your usage. I've never used more than 4GB of SD card on my Sensation, so the 10GB on board is more than enough.
The only problems I would be concerned about are:
1) Chipping on the black version. I honestly think it's overblown (like most issues with all phones, only people who have problems speak up), but if you are really worried about it get the silver one. It looks even better IMO and it won't chip as the finishing process is different.
2) Getting the 1.7GHz Snapdragon S3 version instead of the 1.5GHz S4. The S3 is the previous generation chip, used in the Sensation, and is slower (despite the higher clock speed, the architecture is different) and uses more power. I don't know if there's a way to tell what you're going to get beforehand, though. Only thing I can think of is if you see "1.7GHz" anywhere on or near it, stay away.
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THANK U! and i don't understand you, which one is better - 1.7 GHz or 1.5GHz ?
Terminator19 said:
Read my one S review (and all the other posts by me in that thread as well, as I have updated some stuff like wifi speeds and battery life, last update was today, so the last post will be useful for you) in sig and also read my post here addressing your issues/questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
As for the heat, only gets hot when you're charging it, but this is the same for every device, in use for games etc. mine is pretty cold to touch
There is also a video in my last post in the neowin review thread showing a thermal output test comparison between the GS 2, Razr and the S.
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So you like this device as I see Good review by the way! I think that this one is good for me.
And how is the speaker?
LalyGirl said:
Ok so I will stay with the one s.
And how is the speaker of the hos/hox ?
THANK U! and i don't understand you, which one is better - 1.7 GHz or 1.5GHz ?
So you like this device as I see Good review by the way! I think that this one is good for me.
And how is the speaker?
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Speaker for the HOX is fine, not as loud as say the SGS3 but it's consistent where as the SGS3 can be distorted on higher volumes. I prefer the ringtone sounds out of the HOX than SGS3.
Nick L said:
I have both the Sensation and One S and there is really no comparison, the One S is much better. I still like my Sensation but the One S is better looking and feeling, has better battery life and a nicer screen, and is much faster.
I haven't had any of the problems that people have reported here (sensitive button, poor reception etc.). Battery life has been good for me so far, and while it does warm up when you're using it heavily it's not "hot" by any means.
The lack of SD slot is not really a problem for me, but whether you can live with it depends on your usage. I've never used more than 4GB of SD card on my Sensation, so the 10GB on board is more than enough.
The only problems I would be concerned about are:
1) Chipping on the black version. I honestly think it's overblown (like most issues with all phones, only people who have problems speak up), but if you are really worried about it get the silver one. It looks even better IMO and it won't chip as the finishing process is different.
2) Getting the 1.7GHz Snapdragon S3 version instead of the 1.5GHz S4. The S3 is the previous generation chip, used in the Sensation, and is slower (despite the higher clock speed, the architecture is different) and uses more power. I don't know if there's a way to tell what you're going to get beforehand, though. Only thing I can think of is if you see "1.7GHz" anywhere on or near it, stay away.
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Terminator19 said:
Read my one S review (and all the other posts by me in that thread as well, as I have updated some stuff like wifi speeds and battery life, last update was today, so the last post will be useful for you) in sig and also read my post here addressing your issues/questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27056580&postcount=7
As for the heat, only gets hot when you're charging it, but this is the same for every device, in use for games etc. mine is pretty cold to touch
There is also a video in my last post in the neowin review thread showing a thermal output test comparison between the GS 2, Razr and the S.
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nikzDHD said:
Speaker for the HOX is fine, not as loud as say the SGS3 but it's consistent where as the SGS3 can be distorted on higher volumes. I prefer the ringtone sounds out of the HOX than SGS3.
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Ok and when you use your smartphone as a cellphone (Make a call to someone), so how does the person on the other side hear you? Clean? Horrible ? Loud?
LalyGirl said:
So you like this device as I see Good review by the way! I think that this one is good for me.
And how is the speaker?
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Yup, I love it!
Thanks
Speaker is great, better than the GS 2 all round.
Here is what GSMarena had to say about the audio:
The cleanest audio output we have seen
The HTC One S performance in our audio quality test came as a really pleasant surprise to us. It appears that the Beats influence hasn't been limited to a single equalizer preset this time as the smartphone delivers the cleanest output we have seen from any device so far.
When connected to an active external amplifier, the HTC One S audio is simply flawless - volume levels are a little above average and it got excellent scores on every part of our test.
What's most impressive though is the One S retains virtually the same performance when you plug in a pair of headphones. The stereo crosstalk takes the tiniest dip of any smartphone we've seen so far, while the rest of the readings are either totally unaffected or worsen by an undetectable amount. Volume levels remain the same too, so it's arguably the most impressive overall performance to date.
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LalyGirl said:
Ok and when you use your smartphone as a cellphone (Make a call to someone), so how does the person on the other side hear you? Clean? Horrible ? Loud?
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Very good! Call quality is great for me.
Loud (can adjust the volume) and clean.
You have dual mics, so any background noise is blocked out Obviously extreme noise like cars racing right beside you and loud music might not be completely blocked out and besides you won't be able to make the other person out anyway
Terminator19 said:
Yup, I love it!
Thanks
Speaker is great, better than the GS 2 all round.
Here is what GSMarena had to say about the audio:
Very good! Call quality is great for me.
Loud (can adjust the volume) and clean.
You have dual mics, so any background noise is blocked out Obviously extreme noise like cars racing right beside you and loud music might not be completely blocked out and besides you won't be able to make the other person out anyway
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So far, I see that people prefer HTS ONE S
That's nice, and now I really want it XDDDDD
I've just upgraded to this phone from the Desire S. I was thinking about getting the One X or the S3 too but I want a high end mobile phone not a mini tablet. This phone is amazing coming from a rooted desire S, its so fast and smooth I don't plan on rooting it.
My advise is to simply get this phone.
pumpernickel77 said:
I've just upgraded to this phone from the Desire S. I was thinking about getting the One X or the S3 too but I want a high end mobile phone not a mini tablet. This phone is amazing coming from a rooted desire S, its so fast and smooth I don't plan on rooting it.
My advise is to simply get this phone.
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Ok, I think I'll buy it
Jesus christ, how old are you?
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iArtisan said:
Jesus christ, how old are you?
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA
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Are you asking me or someone else?
1) The battery life on this phone sucks. Expect to be getting no more than 4 hours of usage on average. The iphone 4/4s gets a solid 6 hours of usage. Thats 150% more battery life and I don't need to fiddle with the settings at all to achieve this.
2) The hardware has major design flaws. First of all the black one has that chipping problem with the paint. Well I have used my phone for less than 2 months and it looks butchered as hell. People complain about the iphone 4/4s, well I dropped a gazillion times and it still looked almost brand new when I sold it. I dropped the 1S one time! and the paint already came off. The front camera is recessed and gathers dust like crazy. It's impossible to clean it because its recessed and the dust has no where to go. Crap and dust also builds up near the top plastic cap. The speakers are also located exactly on the back of the phone. So if you put your phone on your table, you can't hear it ringing. Not only that the volume is so low. I missed tons of calls.
3) The community for this phone sucks. There is barely any activity on the fora and development for custom roms is stagnating. I mean sense is crap and there is only like 1 guy working on cm9? And correct me if I am wrong but the last version of AOKP is like from 3 weeks ago with tons of bugs. Now look at the Galaxy Nexus or the 1X fora. Or look at the SGS3 fora and that phone has not even been completely released yet. Its crazy. And this is worrying cause even sense has tons of bugs. There is for example this 3g/H switching that still hasn't been fixed as far as I know.
4) Then there is this low resolution pentile screen. Well its definitely ok and you shouldn't worry about it. But you WILL notice a huge difference if you put it next to the nexus, 1X or the iphone 4/4s and you will run in to all kinds of trouble with apps. For example while my own 720p videos looks good on this phone, youtube videos will look crap no matter how high you put the settings. There are tons of these annoying things. The screen is the reason why its not quite yet a flagship device while it could have been.
That being said I think its the best android phone on the market. Its the fastest android phone on the market. It doesn't have a cheap flimsy plastic body and it has a thin and light design. Aluminum feels really good on the hand especially when its cold. Its like 100 dollars/euro cheaper than the 1X and SGS3. I'd wait for the iphone 5 though. And if that turns out to be nothing or if the wait is too long then go ahead and purchase the 1S cause thats what I recommend out of the top3 android phones.
wilcoholic said:
1) The battery life on this phone sucks. Expect to be getting no more than 4 hours of usage on average. The iphone 4/4s gets a solid 6 hours of usage. Thats 150% more battery life and I don't need to fiddle with the settings at all to achieve this.
2) The hardware has major design flaws. First of all the black one has that chipping problem with the paint. Well I have used my phone for less than 2 months and it looks butchered as hell. People complain about the iphone 4/4s, well I dropped a gazillion times and it still looked almost brand new when I sold it. I dropped the 1S one time! and the paint already came off. The front camera is recessed and gathers dust like crazy. It's impossible to clean it because its recessed and the dust has no where to go. Crap and dust also builds up near the top plastic cap. The speakers are also located exactly on the back of the phone. So if you put your phone on your table, you can't hear it ringing. Not only that the volume is so low. I missed tons of calls.
3) The community for this phone sucks. There is barely any activity on the fora and development for custom roms is stagnating. I mean sense is crap and there is only like 1 guy working on cm9? And correct me if I am wrong but the last version of AOKP is like from 3 weeks ago with tons of bugs. Now look at the Galaxy Nexus or the 1X fora. Or look at the SGS3 fora and that phone has not even been completely released yet. Its crazy. And this is worrying cause even sense has tons of bugs. There is for example this 3g/H switching that still hasn't been fixed as far as I know.
4) Then there is this low resolution pentile screen. Well its definitely ok and you shouldn't worry about it. But you WILL notice a huge difference if you put it next to the nexus, 1X or the iphone 4/4s and you will run in to all kinds of trouble with apps. For example while my own 720p videos looks good on this phone, youtube videos will look crap no matter how high you put the settings. There are tons of these annoying things. The screen is the reason why its not quite yet a flagship device while it could have been.
That being said I think its the best android phone on the market. Its the fastest android phone on the market. It doesn't have a cheap flimsy plastic body and it has a thin and light design. Aluminum feels really good on the hand especially when its cold. Its like 100 dollars/euro cheaper than the 1X and SGS3. I'd wait for the iphone 5 though. And if that turns out to be nothing or if the wait is too long then go ahead and purchase the 1S cause thats what I recommend out of the top3 android phones.
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OK, So do you recommend me to buy it ??
Or should I buy the sony xperia s ??
wilcoholic said:
1) The battery life on this phone sucks. Expect to be getting no more than 4 hours of usage on average. The iphone 4/4s gets a solid 6 hours of usage. Thats 150% more battery life and I don't need to fiddle with the settings at all to achieve this.
2) The hardware has major design flaws. First of all the black one has that chipping problem with the paint. Well I have used my phone for less than 2 months and it looks butchered as hell. People complain about the iphone 4/4s, well I dropped a gazillion times and it still looked almost brand new when I sold it. I dropped the 1S one time! and the paint already came off. The front camera is recessed and gathers dust like crazy. It's impossible to clean it because its recessed and the dust has no where to go. Crap and dust also builds up near the top plastic cap. The speakers are also located exactly on the back of the phone. So if you put your phone on your table, you can't hear it ringing. Not only that the volume is so low. I missed tons of calls.
3) The community for this phone sucks. There is barely any activity on the fora and development for custom roms is stagnating. I mean sense is crap and there is only like 1 guy working on cm9? And correct me if I am wrong but the last version of AOKP is like from 3 weeks ago with tons of bugs. Now look at the Galaxy Nexus or the 1X fora. Or look at the SGS3 fora and that phone has not even been completely released yet. Its crazy. And this is worrying cause even sense has tons of bugs. There is for example this 3g/H switching that still hasn't been fixed as far as I know.
4) Then there is this low resolution pentile screen. Well its definitely ok and you shouldn't worry about it. But you WILL notice a huge difference if you put it next to the nexus, 1X or the iphone 4/4s and you will run in to all kinds of trouble with apps. For example while my own 720p videos looks good on this phone, youtube videos will look crap no matter how high you put the settings. There are tons of these annoying things. The screen is the reason why its not quite yet a flagship device while it could have been.
That being said I think its the best android phone on the market. Its the fastest android phone on the market. It doesn't have a cheap flimsy plastic body and it has a thin and light design. Aluminum feels really good on the hand especially when its cold. Its like 100 dollars/euro cheaper than the 1X and SGS3. I'd wait for the iphone 5 though. And if that turns out to be nothing or if the wait is too long then go ahead and purchase the 1S cause thats what I recommend out of the top3 android phones.
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Once again, all of that is in YOUR opinion and from your usage only as well, plenty of people including me have had the exact opposite to you. Just because you experience problems doesn't mean that every one else will....
1. Is that on screen time your talking about? If so that is very good! (depending on usage and screen brightness) No other android phone gets anywhere near that unless the screens are set to like 0% and airplane mode enabled for a bit. Just look at my review and you will see the usage that I am getting from a single charge, now go and find me an android phone on stock ROM with a stock battery that can beat that (apart from the motorola razzr for obvious reasons). The iphone 4/4s also seem to have a problem with battery life for quite a few people, heck apple have even released a number of updates iirc to try and fix the battery drain
Plus don't forget that the iphone 4/4s doesn't have the same amount to do as an android phone.
2. The MAO issue is not a "hardware" problem, but a design fault.... Also I have had my phone since release day and still have no signs of chipping anywhere apart from inside the USB port plus HTC have addressed this now as they have got a design, which has a bevelled USB and less sharper edges. Well you were extremely lucky with your 4s then as due to the build of it and being mostly glass, the screen is almost always guaranteed to shatter when dropped......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
It all depends on where abouts the ground impacts the mobile, you could be lucky or not so lucky with any device. If you want to be safe than sorry then a case is a necessary item for all mobiles, even the GS 2. Some devices are just more durable than others.
I have had no problems with dust getting under my screen, had my mobile since April, yes dust does gather in the front camera part, however, a quick blow and wipe with a pencil in a cloth sorts that problem out.
Emmmm what? The volume is amplified a wee bit when it is placed on the desk due to that reason, you can raise the volume as well you know or use a louder ring tone, you must be pretty deaf if you can't hear your mobile ringing......
3. The community isn't great, but it is starting to pick up now especially since the kernel source was posted, there are a few good ROMs from what I have read such as trickdroid and leedroid. Sense is crap in your opinion, many people including me love it and I for one won't be changing to a stock ICS ROM as I don't want to loose the features of sense, which IMO are better than the alternatives. The gallery, dialer, calendar, clock app are superb and not to mention the sense camera along with all the features, which you won't find on any other mobile or stock ICS ROM. Of course the galaxy nexus is going to have a damn good developing community, it's only the official/stock android phone that all the developers use to develop apps for and was the first phone to have a 720P display. The developing community here will never be as good as the the 1X or GS 3 community as they are the "flagship" devices and the phones that everyone will go for just for because of that "term"
Also the tegra chipset is apparently proving to be hard to work with for the developers with the 1X due to nvidia lack of support.
What are these bugs you speak off? I haven't had any problems with mine, super stable, super quick and smooth, multi-tasking is fine as I have disabled a lot of sense stuff and apps that I don't need and am using apex etc. instead.
If you look at my other post addressing issues you will see that I don't have the 3G/H bug, along with many other people.
The iphone is well known to have signal issues as well, not remember the 4 or 4s release where people were complaining about terrible signal, and apple said essentially "you're holding the phone the wrong way" and had to give out free bumper cases to solve the issue as it was a problem with the new antenna that they were using......
4. There is no problem with the screen, sure it ain't 720P and doesn't use RGB matrix, but it is perfectly good and better than most other mobiles screens apart from the ones you mentioned along with a couple of SE mobiles. The screen is nice and sharp still, the only areas I notice the pentile matrix is with white text on black backgrounds and some icons and even still I have to put my eyes right up to the screen. Plus the reason HTC went with with the pentile version is because the battery life is better with it than the RGB version (same reason Samsung went with pentile on the GS 3 instead of RGB). What kind of trouble have you run into with all these apps that you speak of because of the screen? What on earth are you talking about again??? Youtube videos will look crap no matter what settings you put them on??? The youtube videos look great.
Seriously, it sounds to me like you have a faulty one s if that is truly what you are experiencing.......
And after all that you still think the 1S is the best android device there is
LalyGirl said:
OK, So do you recommend me to buy it ??
Or should I buy the sony xperia s ??
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Just buy it. It's a fine phone. These have been snapped up by many in the UK past few days due to a cheap contract deal so many more HOS users in the pipeline.
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Your opinions after buying it.

Hi people of XDA, I think I'm going to buy this phone tomorrow, and I want to hear your impressions after use.
I've used it in a local dealer, but I'm afraid of that glass breaking, I've read so much about it... and I've seen people have been careful with it, and it still breaks... What about gaming performance and heat? Have you played intensive games where the phone was very hot? Has anything happened to glass?
So are there any cons that you know? I'm stunned by phone's look. Ex Arc owner hiihihi
I'm really happy with my phone! The battery is amazing and it handles games like a champ. No heating problems or cracked glass, but I'm using a case so don't know if it would be the same without it.
My only complaint would be low audio output with headphones because I like my music loud.
My only complaint is theres still no built in call blocker and unlike my note 4 theres no caller name readout, so you know whos calling you.
Yes the phone could be louder in headphones but atleast It is a improvement on previous Z series and even the Xperia S & T.
The DSEE HX really helps with loudness, as does using the MDR-NC31EMs or my Beats Mixrs.
Happy but there is a small part of me that wishes i went with the compact version! Dont get me wrong, I much prefer the larger screen and its obviously better if watching videos / youtube or even just web browsing. However its a tad awkward to use one handed when on the move outdoors because of its size where as the compact felt much better in hand and felt alot less likely to drop/slip from my grip (when i tested it out in store)
I expected a little more from the camera especially when it comes to detail but none the less its a good camera. Battery life is excellent to so all in all iam happy
Oh and for the person that mentioned 'call blocker' . Theres an option to send a choosen number to voicemail which is pretty similar to blocking the number i think. Also if you use the textra app you can now block incoming sms
If you like installing custom ROM's, i'd avoid Sony. That said, my thoughts;
The phone is very fast, and has a super bright screen, although it's much too blue. Speakers are loud but inconsistent. Camera is good but not amazing.
Compared to my previous phone, M8, i'd say this is faster with much better battery life, but speakers, camera and screen, as well as the puny LED flash which is useless make this phone a little disappointing.
Disclaimer : I am very very picky, so while this phone isn't of the quality of the M8, the glass won't break on it's own, and you won't regret it unless you've had an M8 lol.
Playdough96 said:
I'm really happy with my phone! The battery is amazing and it handles games like a champ. No heating problems or cracked glass, but I'm using a case so don't know if it would be the same without it.
My only complaint would be low audio output with headphones because I like my music loud.
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Do you mind if I ask you what case you are using? Thanks.
Hustlervanz said:
Do you mind if I ask you what case you are using? Thanks.
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http://www.krusellcases.com/uk/p_krusell_product.aspx?i=265580
Bought this one from a store here in Sweden the first day i got my phone. There were no other ones and it looked good and sturdy. Good price too.
Another minor flaw thats a little annoying for me also is that iam finding auto brightness to be crap! The display is too bright in dark settings and to dim in bright settings unless i manually adjust!
I've had it for one week, and I'm very satisfied. I changed from a Z and everything is much better, lighter, brighter screen (I can see it under direct sunlight), usable in wet conditions.
The only bad thing I can say about it is that I can't root it without unlocking the bootloader, at least for now (I like to remove all the Google and Sony bloatware).
I've had my 6603 model for two days. Maybe the honeymoon is still going, but I really love this phone. I did manage to scratch the rear glass already. No cases in USA yet and Amazon backorders them into November after you buy one that shows " in stock". After the past year with Nexus 5, and looking at how the Nexus 6 is whale sized the Xperia Z3 was the only semi stock device I could find that met my needs/wants. I'm thrilled with it.
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NFC not working
The phone is great! apart from the NFC only working sporadically.
It only works if i push on the back where the NFC makes contact. It used to work fine for the first week so not sure why the NFC module isnt making contact to the main board.
Anybody else having this issue?
I bought my first Sony smart phone and its Z3 last week. Till now its working great and i have seen no issues just one when using 3G or LTE signals get dropped. Same issue is coming in nexus 5 too. Other than this its very very fine smart phone. Look and feel is good Battery time is awesome and most importantly there in no lag. I switched from galaxy S4 so i am feeling this difference a lot.
I have the phone for a week or 2-3 now and still happy verry with it. Biggest downside is no root and the camera could be a bit better... Coming from a Z1 (and Lumia 930 in between) just about everything is an improvement, screen, build, speed, the whole package. Just hope development will set off soon for the Z3 (again, root mainly).
The phone does get hot when playing games (even candycrush) but that's just what phones do. No issues with glass so far here *knocks on wood*.
I've had this phone since September 26th. I came from an iPhone 5 (i know, I been missing out) and i'm kinda amazed!
There are a few things though:
1. As mentioned by someone before, i'm having issues while it's switching between 3- and 4G. And additionally while it's switching from WiFi to 3/4G. There are spots possibly up to ~15 seconds without any connection.
2. I'm using a cover, but the back got scratches inside the cover, by miniature particles, so I'm guessing it's not too scratch resistant.
3.First I set it up following the set up instructions, and setting everything up with syncs and whatnot. I wasn't too impressed by the battery life when I had it like that, so I did a factory reset and set it up a bit more cautiously, switched stamina mode on and boom, easily the best battery life I ever had!
Over all I'm loving the phone though, reading the news in the shower every morning, no worries about whipping it out in the rain, watching tv-series on the metro in wonderful quality, without noticeable battery drops. No crashes yet, the ps4 remote play to come. The list is long!
I guess what I'm saying is that having had an iPhone since my HTC desire was pensioned I secretly missed android all along, and what a great device this is for a comeback ?
Great phone.. Coming from an LG G2, I miss the thin bezels.
Also miss development for it.
No regrets. Z1 - Z2 - Z3

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